The first time an orc became deranged because of me I killed him, and now he literally comes back from the dead every now and then just to haunt me with his terrifying screams, the stuff of nightmares...
@@neacsutiberiu6411 Jesus Christ, man. I remember making that comment like it was a few months ago. I honestly don't believe it's been 3 years. Christ, man. Life is becoming grim, how fast it's passing by.
I do it for the lulz. What bugs me is that there are some orcs that just do not want to break. I shamed a guy 5-6 times I think and it didn't break his mind. Didn't have the worse than death at the time. but still pissed me off
I've never played this game series, but I've seen a bunch of videos of these orcs and I can't help but be impressed by how much effort went into characterizing each and every one of them.
It was launched with a load of microtransactions so it had a really bad reputation for ages, but since they they've removed all that stuff and it's back to being a really unique masterpiece just like the first one
Its a shame we might not get games with characters being this deep, due to WB making nemesis system copyrighted. Closest thing to it I've seen was in Watch dogs: Legion. But its dog water compared to this
If you want to feel like a shitty person listen to there first confrontation with the deranged version of Az Bror, if you listen closely during the laughing and crying you can hear him silently mumble "someone help me". Someone else found that out and spreading the depression
Schinak Indeed I wasn't happy with what I was forced to do to Brûz so I thought it'd be best to kill him but he kept cheating death and haunting me with his dialogue so I recruited him in hopes that if levelled he'll regain sanity
Prior to me deranging an Olag. I first killed him by burning him, he cheated death and came back, killed him again by poison, etc, etc. Then I shamed him to the point of the "laughing" deranged stage. What was awesome, was to see his physical appearance change over the course of killing the Olag several times. Now I recruited this psycho, deranged, burlap sack wearing, burnt face, scarred-melted poisoned body, monstrosity. The best part, it's the Olag model that has the steel "trapjaw" fixture mounted to his head, the burlap sack that covers his face adds that extra deranged look. I now use him as my bodyguard. And he mows through the orcs, while laughing. Since I upgraded him several times in the training feature. :)
I had an ongoing back and forth with an olog named ur-edin, the first time i died he broke my best sword and he cheated death 6 times untill the fortress siege where he was burned alive by a drake. Havnt seen him again. Yet.
I love it when games allow you to take the evil option without actually telling you that it is. You figure it out yourself. The realization that you've gone too far, that you've let the power get to your head and that you've now become the villain in a sense, is so incredibly powerful. And no other art form can portray it like this, because they aren't interactive. This is all _you_ . Your decisions, your actions.
Yep... And believe it or not, experimenting with crap like this can help younger gamers realize how easy it is to go too far IRL. We'll never hear about it because of the boomers, but it might even save a life.
Az-Laar the pain lover is scarier. Once he's insane he becomes "The painless". He's almost indestructible now. Keeps quoting "I can't feel it!".. Unnerving.
When ranger says," you are a cruel one gravewalker." It sent shivers up my spine cause it's true. I love my baby orcs,uruks,ologs too much to do this to them...
The beast; who was too big for any fight, who trained for this moment his whole life, was finally fighting a fight he had fit in. Courage had turned into cockiness, and the slightest mistep caused him to be tethered in the shackles of his opponent. Instead of killing the beast, the man had decided to shame him for what he had done, and with so, the beast had lost all social attributes. His friends had mocked him, yet they still hung around him. Frightened to be attacked by his oppenent, he had tried to prove himself to others, and challenge him once more. Weakened, and no longer powerful, the beast had succumbed to the might of the human. Yet, what a malevolent mind procured in there, as for his intention was the same. To drive the beast into social oblivion. The final time around, though. The human picked a fight with what was left of the beast, a broken morale; that was. He shamed the beast one last time. Anything can only take so much harassment. The beast was driven mad. Although, you slowly became what that feral beast once was. A ruthless killer, who doesn't care about consequences.
0:10 *"You know, the first thing I ever trucked with a deer. Cornered it against a cliffside, and I'll never forget that look of terror. Seem Look you're giving me now."* 😈 1:00/1:03 *"I will repay you a thousand times over for The torment you cause me. Until this moment you have not known suffering!"* 😡 1:49/1:52 *"Why can't you just kill me?! Does it give you pleasure to cause such pain? To see me brought so low?!"* 😰 2:45 (Wailing and crying) *"Some.....body.....help.....me."* 😢 - Az-Bror ( Formal title: The Hairy. )
I shamed an Olog a while ago. All he does now is growl and click his teeth together. I let him kill me before I dominated him. He's probably my strongest captain now.
Simon O'Reilly this is the timeline for my best captain 1 Gluuk the tricky ambushes me (level ten) killers me because of no chance 2 I successfully kill Gluuk 3 Gluuk respawns as a level 32 legendary unashamed 4 I shamed Gluuk to the point that he wanted me to kill him 5 I mercy kill Gluuk by burning him and decapitating him 6 he denies death and I fight him again for the final shaming 7 he cries and wails whenever he starts a fight and wears a bag 8 I brand him and now he is a level 63 with fear of the gravewalker whenever he is fighting you can hear him cry and occasionally say please leave me I don't want this
The continuity of this is incredible, like how when he sees you he still howls but after he's gone insane it takes on a pathetic, whimpering aspect. Really makes you feel for it in spite of things
Most people:I want this game for the intense battles and good story. Me:I want to make someone so sad that they desire death and eventually go so insane that they don't speak and either cry, scream, or click their tongues repeatedly.
Kirill Vorotyntsev pretty sure you haven't reached the true ending....the first one was a shocking twist not an end for a story...though the story is seriously deep and there's one theory that bright lord was actually summoned in the first game to haunt either talion or his son...proven that he says he chose you and that they wanted to use his power eventually to bring sauron back....what shines the most but unfortunately unfocused talion's tragic story...yes his character isn't clarity as the whole spotlight was around the nemesis system but the lines he says every time he comes back to life are really deep and shows that he isn't that selfless guy from nothing....he resembles the protagonist in gladiator movie....he just fights so he can end in peace with his family...he just want to die
Tark: "I once cornered an ork. He had the same look of terror you now have. Before you met me, you had never experienced true suffering. I am going to continue until nothing remains of the true you. Now go enjoy the feeling of your own mind eroding away."
Elmithian sorry didn't know you were scripting .mistook you fore one of those ranting at the screen types. but you were a bit colorful fore just an angry gamer .yes tailon is a bit quiet .it makes him have less personality then his enemies.
Honestly it is videos like this that make me question wether the uruks are the real monsters-givw that thing a bloody rest,that existence is truly a sentence worse than death
That always was the question. Mordor kind of missed the mark trying to get that across, but War (I think) finally puts it into relief that *you* are the true monster. You might be fighting Sauron, but in the end there's no such thing as a "good" wraith and the mess that is Talion/Celebrimbor is a walking curse upon the face of Arda that must inevitably bring only pain and death into the world.
@@MrMortull I know this comment is 3 years old, but I'm going to reply anyway. Lol Spoilers if you haven't completed both games. I don't think Mordor missed it's mark. The game's plot centered around Talion and Celebrimbor wanting revenge, with Talion wishing to reunite with his family. At the end of the game, after killing the Black Hand, Talion shifts his focus on going after Sauron. SoW is a continuation, which delves into the idea that power corrupts, even if the intended purpose was good. What started out as Talion wanting to reunite with his family, turned into him seeking domination and power, only to be corrupted into a Nazgul.
Yes, but Talion did allow it to happen. Without an alternative physical host Celebrimbor can only bitch and rant at Talion when they disagree. It seems that when it comes to actual physical decisions Talion has the veto until the big bad Elf can jump ship.
I find it a cool coincidence that he speaks of cornering a deer at a cliffside for his first kill, and you are indeed yourself cornered against a cliffside while he says it.
I love the hairy Ologs. They look more intimidating and humble. They also make for fun nemesis or followers. All around they are by far one of my favorite titles an Olog or orc can have.
Some who betray you are actually really scared I had one who was absolutely terrified of sauron so he betrayed me so he wouldn’t be a traitor. I dominated him again and I’ve protected him for so long.
@@Kayo901 only time I’ve shamed somebody to this point is when an orc betrayed me and killed my orc captain who just liked to get drunk and have a good laugh. He’s still alive, he often finds me and cries. I shame him and move on. I’ll never forgive him for what he done.
I'm all for shaming and dominating the NPCs of this game but this is just not nice man. This is actually really screwed up. The game developers really went all out on this one eh?
They did but while messed up I respect them for not idolizing the effects of what you do to these guys. The orc where this concept gets introduced was especially soul crushing
he can't even do his howl anymore...jesus, I know orcs are meant to be evil, but at least grant them a warrior's death, instead of destroying all they have worked hard for and turning them into a husk of their former selfs XD
The most irritating part is sometimes you can derange an Uruk or Olog without even meaning to. Say you need to shame a unit just once to bring them to your level so you can attempt to recruit them? Well, good job, because you JUST broke their mind. The deranging with a single shame is annoying when you don't want it to happen...
Werewolf? Wait a minute Sauron is Lord of Werewolves :). "Sauron was become now a sorcerer of dreadful power, master of shadows and of phantoms, foul in wisdom, cruel in strength, misshaping what he touched, twisting what he ruled, lord of werewolves; his dominion was torment." :)
,,I will repay you a thousand times over for the torment you have caused me. Until this moment, you have not known suffering!"... pretty bold words for someone that is level 6
I had an olog who I loved he was my personal bodyguard till another olog replaced him then that olog who got replaced betrayed me so I shamed him to the point he was always crying….I felt bad…..I replaced him he got angry and now he’s sobbing
This is one ability I've never used. I've never shamed an enemy whenever I didn't have to, and the storyline quest where I had to break Bruz' mind horrified me so much I didn't play the game again for a months
I had an Uruk named Nakra the Scorpion he had flame I think on his two swords and we fought well but at one point I gave him cursed weapons and then right after he betrayed and killed me, so I went after him but got screwed because he had a new Blood brother called Zugor the Legendary, so I ran away then he killed the damn Overlord! He ruled until I got to him and thought between killing, shaming or recruitibg him I decided to recruit him and Im glad I did I made him a captain and sentenced him to 1 era of poison weapons then later I made him a warchief when I lost the fort and later gathered my army I gave him cursed weapons for the battle we succeeded so I gave him poison again and made a choice between him or my last Overlord Stakuga the Deranged I chose him so now he rules with his blighted blades over Seregost
Michail Volski lol I actually make it a point to drive them all insane. Its sick but effective. Its like I'm the Joker and they're my gang of deranged psychopaths. Its also creepy to hear them rushing enemies while moaning and crying while attacking a fort, more desperate to run into the jaws of the enemy than stand by the one who constantly inflicts pain upon them. When one betrays me, I shame them to level one and then recruit them again before sending them into the pits to replace them with a stronger orc.
The shame mechanic is great, really makes you feel like a dark lord when you can utterly break an otherwise powerful or scary monster to the point that it begs for death and then break it further until it can't even talk anymore. Great warriors don't fear death, but they will definitely fear YOU.
SPOLIER AHEAD!!!! If only after the game you would have dialogue when talion becomes a nazgul. He's silent when shaming and it's annoying. I would love to hear the dark side of him when he shames, just like celebrimbor. It would be really cool. I hope they add that in a future patch
Billy he's not as bad as celebrimbor. Celembrimbor only wanted to take over Mordor for his power. Talion does not necessarily want to make everyone a slave, just wants everyone to be in peace. So I don't think he WANTS to ruin a mind of an orc or olog.
It fits in Tolkien’s vision though. Back in his day, there was WW1 and how it changed the men who were in it. Shell Shock they called it back then. Having this orc become deranged is something he himself would’ve written if he was doing the writing for the game.
Schinak At the same time, it works in with the in-game progression and system as well: since you can't recruit uruks with a higher level than you or with the "iron will" trait, you have to shame them to bring them to a point you can recruit them, making a test of your morals: you have all the benefits... But is it worth it?
Even if it’s just a video game character, it doesn’t mean someone can’t feel sympathy towards it. People sympathize with tv characters or movie characters, so what makes this different?
I would totally brand him and build him back up again. XD That maniacal nature is something I want. I have a few mind-broken Uruks and a couple Ologs as Warchiefs in one of my forts. Crazy fun to have them. XD
Sauron: I may be bad, but this is a different kind of evil
This should have got more likes lol
Sauron be like: damn bro you are the real dark lord not me
@@user-uo5id1dd5s talion to sauron: I am your Sword!
and he was
And i thought Celebrimbor was the evil one
Morgoth : Write that Down!
The first time an orc became deranged because of me I killed him, and now he literally comes back from the dead every now and then just to haunt me with his terrifying screams, the stuff of nightmares...
mudiemanable Brûz does that to me, it's terrible
mudiemanable try making sure he’s dead by like, blowing up the head
Bruz?
recruit it and turn it into a warlord and hope he leaves you in peace.
@@CallMeMimi27 he won't
Dude that big grin with the wided eyes and then him making his crys turn into a laughter gave me goosebumps
Akasuna no Sasori and that laugh
Omar Wolfheart yeah
It made me sad. :c
I know right? The crying, then laughing, then weemping. Fuck. I was thinking "just put him out of his misery already :("
That's the same thing I did to my friends little sister she is still afraid of me
Love how he corners Talion against a cliffside and then proceeds to tell him a story about cornering a deer against a cliffside
That sounds like something out of a shonen anime
"You are a cruel one, Gravewalker."
Celebrimbor , are we the baddies?
Hey Bruz asked for it
@@makairidah8354 ALUCARD!!!!!!
@@Andrewflow160 eh?
@@makairidah8354 sorry if you don't get the reference is from hellsing abridged
This is surely the most disturbing and strange mechanic ever written into a game.
Why though?
@@Theemptythroneistaken Why? Why what?
You responded to the guy 3 years later lmao
@@neacsutiberiu6411 Jesus Christ, man. I remember making that comment like it was a few months ago. I honestly don't believe it's been 3 years. Christ, man. Life is becoming grim, how fast it's passing by.
@@childofthesun32 that's crazy bro. What you been doing for 3 years lol
Az Bror = The Olog that look like a Bearded Hulk who hunted down Bambi before he slowly whimpers and then laugh upon descent into madness
alienhominid2000 Won't lie, he spooks me.
I thought he was lion man
I'm scared of no man
But..
That..
It scares me
Az-Bror Bambi Destroyer
I met someone that looks like him but so black and grey and silver so I called him "harambe"
You did this to him, you fix it
havent played the game yet. can you fix deranged uruks and ologs alike?
Nope the only way to save them is to kill them
I have heard of left alone long enough they get back to normal as well
Sir ludicrous i dont really believe this but the amount of likes makes me question it
Honestly at this point Id let him kill me out of pity, just so he can get that boost up some levels
I don't think I will ever shame an Orc to this level, it's truly a fate worse than death. Maybe I'll do it to the ones that betray me.
I do it for the lulz. What bugs me is that there are some orcs that just do not want to break. I shamed a guy 5-6 times I think and it didn't break his mind. Didn't have the worse than death at the time. but still pissed me off
thats what i do
Kadjoken so your feeling bad for, orcs? In a, video game?
FlyingPigFTW chivalry is respecting your enemy no need to be depraved and stoop to their level
How is dominating and enslaving a race of warriors chivalrous?
I've never played this game series, but I've seen a bunch of videos of these orcs and I can't help but be impressed by how much effort went into characterizing each and every one of them.
I really recommend getting it it’s only like 15 dollars and worth the price
Each one is completely randomly generated
@@leonlemarc3244 but does the job pretty damn well
It was launched with a load of microtransactions so it had a really bad reputation for ages, but since they they've removed all that stuff and it's back to being a really unique masterpiece just like the first one
Its a shame we might not get games with characters being this deep, due to WB making nemesis system copyrighted.
Closest thing to it I've seen was in Watch dogs: Legion. But its dog water compared to this
All the stages of emotion i went through in 2017
Senpai Kuso deranged?
Lmao!
I'm weak
Jose Perez ?
Senpai Kuso me to.
Dear God, the cruelty potential in this game is *real* .
...never thought I'd find myself feeling pity for the Orcs... :(
You should see what happens to the guy the story uses to introduce you to this concept
If you want to feel like a shitty person listen to there first confrontation with the deranged version of Az Bror, if you listen closely during the laughing and crying you can hear him silently mumble "someone help me". Someone else found that out and spreading the depression
Schinak Indeed I wasn't happy with what I was forced to do to Brûz so I thought it'd be best to kill him but he kept cheating death and haunting me with his dialogue so I recruited him in hopes that if levelled he'll regain sanity
Archlord V listen at 2:45. He's asking for either help or to kill him.
jack legends He says somebody help me
When that laughs you can hear "help me help me"
MetalWar04 holy shit
I just listened to it, I'm pretty sure it's "someone help me." Well caught, I missed that first time.
Damn that's actually a pretty hardcore mind breaking then!
Damn dude that's metal
Heavy metal!
Prior to me deranging an Olag. I first killed him by burning him, he cheated death and came back, killed him again by poison, etc, etc. Then I shamed him to the point of the "laughing" deranged stage. What was awesome, was to see his physical appearance change over the course of killing the Olag several times. Now I recruited this psycho, deranged, burlap sack wearing, burnt face, scarred-melted poisoned body, monstrosity. The best part, it's the Olag model that has the steel "trapjaw" fixture mounted to his head, the burlap sack that covers his face adds that extra deranged look. I now use him as my bodyguard. And he mows through the orcs, while laughing. Since I upgraded him several times in the training feature. :)
brangel13 jesus. Thats awesome
brangel13 how do you have 16 mil subs?
I had an ongoing back and forth with an olog named ur-edin, the first time i died he broke my best sword and he cheated death 6 times untill the fortress siege where he was burned alive by a drake. Havnt seen him again. Yet.
brangel13 that sounds wicked sick nasty bro
Damn that sounds dope
Patient #236 day 10, recommend 6 months of level 6 rehabilitation in Arkham Asylum
that, sounded like some gaming guide youtuber acted as gaming doc in his videos, about how to get "shamed" orks back to order.
Put in an application for ECT. May help his odds at getting better.
Maybe some shock therapy as well to drill in that he's talion's soldier,
Damn, that's bats man.
Also, watch Gotham by any chance?
They sure upped the monstrosity on this game...
for the player
I love it when games allow you to take the evil option without actually telling you that it is. You figure it out yourself.
The realization that you've gone too far, that you've let the power get to your head and that you've now become the villain in a sense, is so incredibly powerful. And no other art form can portray it like this, because they aren't interactive. This is all _you_ . Your decisions, your actions.
Spec ops the line is a pale shadow compared to shadow of war
Yep... And believe it or not, experimenting with crap like this can help younger gamers realize how easy it is to go too far IRL. We'll never hear about it because of the boomers, but it might even save a life.
Az-Laar the pain lover is scarier. Once he's insane he becomes "The painless". He's almost indestructible now. Keeps quoting "I can't feel it!".. Unnerving.
shinobikendoka every uruk is different for all of us. It's random
@@mxrcy7739 well it’s just the pain livers in general do that if you make em crazy
When ranger says," you are a cruel one gravewalker." It sent shivers up my spine cause it's true. I love my baby orcs,uruks,ologs too much to do this to them...
I treat them like kids
I agree with both of you
But sometimes you meet that one annoying bastard who keeps killing you while cheating death
The beast; who was too big for any fight, who trained for this moment his whole life, was finally fighting a fight he had fit in. Courage had turned into cockiness, and the slightest mistep caused him to be tethered in the shackles of his opponent.
Instead of killing the beast, the man had decided to shame him for what he had done, and with so, the beast had lost all social attributes. His friends had mocked him, yet they still hung around him.
Frightened to be attacked by his oppenent, he had tried to prove himself to others, and challenge him once more. Weakened, and no longer powerful, the beast had succumbed to the might of the human. Yet, what a malevolent mind procured in there, as for his intention was the same. To drive the beast into social oblivion.
The final time around, though. The human picked a fight with what was left of the beast, a broken morale; that was. He shamed the beast one last time. Anything can only take so much harassment. The beast was driven mad. Although, you slowly became what that feral beast once was. A ruthless killer, who doesn't care about consequences.
Guess who just found a story to tell my future kids before sleep :D
might have change your name to "Bowl of Acids"
nice
Bowl Of Carrots write a freaking book
a bowl of carrots provide a better dialogue than most writers and story tellers can ever hope to achieve.
0:10
*"You know, the first thing I ever trucked with a deer. Cornered it against a cliffside, and I'll never forget that look of terror. Seem Look you're giving me now."* 😈
1:00/1:03
*"I will repay you a thousand times over for The torment you cause me. Until this moment you have not known suffering!"* 😡
1:49/1:52
*"Why can't you just kill me?! Does it give you pleasure to cause such pain? To see me brought so low?!"* 😰
2:45
(Wailing and crying) *"Some.....body.....help.....me."* 😢
- Az-Bror ( Formal title: The Hairy. )
I thought I heard him say somebody....kill....me
@@sportsnewz5608 in this game, same difference
Sauron: And they say I'm evil.
@@elitegamer9310 Sauruman: Indeed. We pale in comparison. To make an orc beg for help? Despicable.
That's for Bambi's mother!
I shamed an Olog a while ago. All he does now is growl and click his teeth together. I let him kill me before I dominated him. He's probably my strongest captain now.
Simon O'Reilly this is the timeline for my best captain
1 Gluuk the tricky ambushes me (level ten) killers me because of no chance
2 I successfully kill Gluuk
3 Gluuk respawns as a level 32 legendary unashamed
4 I shamed Gluuk to the point that he wanted me to kill him
5 I mercy kill Gluuk by burning him and decapitating him
6 he denies death and I fight him again for the final shaming
7 he cries and wails whenever he starts a fight and wears a bag
8 I brand him and now he is a level 63 with fear of the gravewalker whenever he is fighting you can hear him cry and occasionally say please leave me I don't want this
Killer Memestar u are a monster...put him out of his misery😭
AsapRockyOG no I will proceed to use him until he dies or I finish shadow wars
Killer Memestar poor guy:/
Killer Memestar and how is he now?
The continuity of this is incredible, like how when he sees you he still howls but after he's gone insane it takes on a pathetic, whimpering aspect. Really makes you feel for it in spite of things
Never thought I’d feel bad for an orc/olog but my god that “somebody help me” broke my heart so bad
It's the ghost of ｈａｒａｍｂｅ.
pixy Please.
Justin Young haha funny relevant meme
The moment I read this, I just felt a singular tear drip down the side of my face
HARAMBE I MISS YOU!!!!
dicks out for harambe
Most people:I want this game for the intense battles and good story.
Me:I want to make someone so sad that they desire death and eventually go so insane that they don't speak and either cry, scream, or click their tongues repeatedly.
"Most people" are in for a disappointment for the story department. But then again, few game studios bother to make a unique or interesting story.
Kirill Vorotyntsev story is decent
Kirill Vorotyntsev pretty sure you haven't reached the true ending....the first one was a shocking twist not an end for a story...though the story is seriously deep and there's one theory that bright lord was actually summoned in the first game to haunt either talion or his son...proven that he says he chose you and that they wanted to use his power eventually to bring sauron back....what shines the most but unfortunately unfocused talion's tragic story...yes his character isn't clarity as the whole spotlight was around the nemesis system but the lines he says every time he comes back to life are really deep and shows that he isn't that selfless guy from nothing....he resembles the protagonist in gladiator movie....he just fights so he can end in peace with his family...he just want to die
I did this to a certain olog and i have 0% regret.
Me too!
The moment he realise that his life wasn’t a tragedy, but a comedy
I dont know whats scarier: His introduction quote, His soul piercing eyes or the fact that i dont know if he's crying or laughing
The way he still howls but in such a pathetic way, paying homage to the beast he once was, just shows how well made the Nemesis system really is.
I've whimpered and cried like that before, so I know what pain he must felt to feel that way.
Tark: "I once cornered an ork. He had the same look of terror you now have. Before you met me, you had never experienced true suffering.
I am going to continue until nothing remains of the true you. Now go enjoy the feeling of your own mind eroding away."
what
Burg Bass he's trying to get attention .
Elmithian sorry didn't know you were scripting .mistook you fore one of those ranting at the screen types. but you were a bit colorful fore just an angry gamer .yes tailon is a bit quiet .it makes him have less personality then his enemies.
Ork:"you think you're scary one the one that killed bamby"
This was a cool comment. You guys have the comprehension skills of a carrot.
2:35 This went from sad to creepy rather quickly and unexpectedly.
True
I just failed my chapter 4 Calculus 1 exam today. This video sums it up.
EDIT: I did eventually pass calc though, so no need to worry.
How are you now?
Did you ever pass calc
He did! Proud of ya, buddy.
Thumbnail: "Did i ever tell you the definition of insanity?"
Me: "Ayo Far Cry?"
Lol
Honestly it is videos like this that make me question wether the uruks are the real monsters-givw that thing a bloody rest,that existence is truly a sentence worse than death
At least he doesn't have a fort to worry about T_T
Not to mention the ones that will literally bring Talion's own morals into the question.
That always was the question. Mordor kind of missed the mark trying to get that across, but War (I think) finally puts it into relief that *you* are the true monster. You might be fighting Sauron, but in the end there's no such thing as a "good" wraith and the mess that is Talion/Celebrimbor is a walking curse upon the face of Arda that must inevitably bring only pain and death into the world.
@@MrMortull I know this comment is 3 years old, but I'm going to reply anyway. Lol
Spoilers if you haven't completed both games.
I don't think Mordor missed it's mark. The game's plot centered around Talion and Celebrimbor wanting revenge, with Talion wishing to reunite with his family. At the end of the game, after killing the Black Hand, Talion shifts his focus on going after Sauron. SoW is a continuation, which delves into the idea that power corrupts, even if the intended purpose was good.
What started out as Talion wanting to reunite with his family, turned into him seeking domination and power, only to be corrupted into a Nazgul.
2:37 at some point in this speech he says “ Someone help me”
This game genuinely makes you feel for these Orcs and Ologs; it’s just so sad to sit and see them cry out
That thing is beyond help and is past into the realms where even sauron and morgoth dare not tread! PURE INSANITY!
"It's your fort"
If you know, you know
The feels
It was at that point in the game that I seriously considered exactly how monstrous I had become.
MrMortull I mean, Talion never wanted to shame him. He just wanted to kill his ass. Celembrimbor wanted to destroy Bruz's mind.
Yes, but Talion did allow it to happen. Without an alternative physical host Celebrimbor can only bitch and rant at Talion when they disagree. It seems that when it comes to actual physical decisions Talion has the veto until the big bad Elf can jump ship.
+MrMortull To be fair Talion had no way of knowing the Shaming would break Bruz THIS badly
The most impressive thing about this is that the ai seemed to recognize it had you cornered against a wall.
I want that olog in my life he is so fluffy
I find it a cool coincidence that he speaks of cornering a deer at a cliffside for his first kill, and you are indeed yourself cornered against a cliffside while he says it.
Who else felt really bad for bruz after shaming him
Chicken Nugger Me. I just mercy killed him
Chicken Nugger bruz wouldn't stop talking about the fort and I posted my off so I ended him with a friendly graug friend 😀
Pisted*
Luis Moquete you mean pissed?
I made Bruz my personal bitch. I shamed him down to level 1 and then raised him back up. Then I made him the leader of the Fort. Lol
His crying made me sympathise with the big lug.
But then he went and laughed in an unsettling way...
2:09 its so cute when he grabbed Talion's head
I love the hairy Ologs. They look more intimidating and humble. They also make for fun nemesis or followers. All around they are by far one of my favorite titles an Olog or orc can have.
Shaming them to this point is so sad lol. I'll only ever do it to those who betray. Like comon it's so rude I feel sorry for them :*(
Some who betray you are actually really scared I had one who was absolutely terrified of sauron so he betrayed me so he wouldn’t be a traitor. I dominated him again and I’ve protected him for so long.
@@Bruhbookshelf I will definitely be playing like you
@@Kayo901 only time I’ve shamed somebody to this point is when an orc betrayed me and killed my orc captain who just liked to get drunk and have a good laugh. He’s still alive, he often finds me and cries. I shame him and move on. I’ll never forgive him for what he done.
Leave the monster from Where The Wild Things Are alone.
I'm all for shaming and dominating the NPCs of this game but this is just not nice man. This is actually really screwed up. The game developers really went all out on this one eh?
They did but while messed up I respect them for not idolizing the effects of what you do to these guys. The orc where this concept gets introduced was especially soul crushing
they want to make you question who's the true villain.
Schinak I don't want the fort
Thulitha Senevirathne it is messed up bit being a anime fan and seeing some horrible messed up hentai I don't feel mercy for their kind
+Affan Sami That makes no fucking sense >_>
he can't even do his howl anymore...jesus, I know orcs are meant to be evil, but at least grant them a warrior's death, instead of destroying all they have worked hard for and turning them into a husk of their former selfs XD
Nah, I'll shame them more than in that famous scene from Game of Thrones. Now they'll see who is the true monster. :)
wow funny...
The most irritating part is sometimes you can derange an Uruk or Olog without even meaning to. Say you need to shame a unit just once to bring them to your level so you can attempt to recruit them? Well, good job, because you JUST broke their mind. The deranging with a single shame is annoying when you don't want it to happen...
An orc is already a husk of their former self... why not finish the job?
Apparently u guys have not met Prak Jaws
Keenan Fourie would that be a tear of grace reference?
Austin Wilson yep
Oh how i wished he could've been transferred to Shadow of War haha.
I have.
Dexiant lol
"YOU ARE A MONSTER, a twisted fiend who is beyond any hope of redemption"
- Ur-Hakon.
He's like a big cute humanoid wolfdog for me 😂
Definition of insanity:To do the same thing over and over and expect different results.
That’s one gay werewolf
FORTUNE COOKIE NONSENSE
More like a bearwolf
Blackjack804 Still pretty gay though.
Werewolf? Wait a minute Sauron is Lord of Werewolves :). "Sauron was become now a sorcerer of dreadful power, master of shadows and of phantoms, foul in wisdom, cruel in strength, misshaping what he touched, twisting what he ruled, lord of werewolves; his dominion was torment." :)
doesn't look like a werewolf
,,I will repay you a thousand times over for the torment you have caused me. Until this moment, you have not known suffering!"... pretty bold words for someone that is level 6
I read "this dog is scary" when i clicked
not gonna lie watching these makes me wanna play the game again
I don't know whether to feel bad for him after all that shaming, or laugh my ass off. Because this is just priceless. XD
Don't you just love that crazed laugh you get when you know you're fucked? Oh just me? Alright
Aw, he's so fuzzy ^^
You'd think orcs would be shitting themselves though after seeing how you reduce the most ferocious warriors to imbeciles.
I have such a soft spot for Ologs, and me watching you shame that fluffy ass boy to insanity hurts me.
2:42 wow...That's sad...A heartless Orc crying his brains out.
Now. Just imagine the voice actors having to voice those lines into the game
Me: "Why can't you just kill me? Does it give you pleasure to cause such pain? to see me brought so low?"
Life: *shames me again*
Me: *deranged*
They really nailed that deranged level. That shit is fucking creepy as hell.
That laugh in the end though 😂😂😂😂😂
Himanshu Joshi followed by saddened whimpers.
I think it would be scarier if the olog didn't make any noises, just slowly starts to smile and have his eyes widen as he sees you
One Olog believed he was Bruz after I shamed him . Very creepy especially because he had similar armour to bruz
I'm pretty sure this game's shaming mechanic brought out the absolute monster in me
He sounds like me when my life is falling apart
I had an olog who I loved he was my personal bodyguard till another olog replaced him then that olog who got replaced betrayed me so I shamed him to the point he was always crying….I felt bad…..I replaced him he got angry and now he’s sobbing
This is one ability I've never used. I've never shamed an enemy whenever I didn't have to, and the storyline quest where I had to break Bruz' mind horrified me so much I didn't play the game again for a months
I had an Uruk named Nakra the Scorpion he had flame I think on his two swords and we fought well but at one point I gave him cursed weapons and then right after he betrayed and killed me, so I went after him but got screwed because he had a new Blood brother called Zugor the Legendary, so I ran away then he killed the damn Overlord!
He ruled until I got to him and thought between killing, shaming or recruitibg him I decided to recruit him and Im glad I did I made him a captain and sentenced him to 1 era of poison weapons then later I made him a warchief when I lost the fort and later gathered my army
I gave him cursed weapons for the battle we succeeded so I gave him poison again and made a choice between him or my last Overlord Stakuga the Deranged I chose him so now he rules with his blighted blades over Seregost
1:51 kind of impossible for him to be holding that torch with his hands like that
his hand is the torch.
Silent_Stalker O_O
Master Of Disguise :
This actually really impressed me. I might pick this game up 5 years later
man you're evil. i would never treat my orcs this way
Michail Volski lol I actually make it a point to drive them all insane. Its sick but effective. Its like I'm the Joker and they're my gang of deranged psychopaths. Its also creepy to hear them rushing enemies while moaning and crying while attacking a fort, more desperate to run into the jaws of the enemy than stand by the one who constantly inflicts pain upon them. When one betrays me, I shame them to level one and then recruit them again before sending them into the pits to replace them with a stronger orc.
jesus christ calm down satan
Revan Shan that’s fucking evil
Sometimes I think Talion and Celebrimbor are the true bad guys.
Christ you broke the shit outta that guy
The crying from the soul, then immediately going into maniacal laughter...the fucking laugh... O.O
These things just don't seem right. It really is sad.
I heard an olog captain say the "definition of insanity" line the other day as he was trying to whack me with his mace.
Man that ''shame skill'' is fucking cruel.. And disturbing ...
477Elite it is. sort of wish they didn't include it.
Why? if i had that power the whole world would be shamed! 😐
The shame mechanic is great, really makes you feel like a dark lord when you can utterly break an otherwise powerful or scary monster to the point that it begs for death and then break it further until it can't even talk anymore. Great warriors don't fear death, but they will definitely fear YOU.
He talks like Arnold xDDD
I don't think I've ever felt such pity towards an enemy in a video game.
SPOLIER AHEAD!!!! If only after the game you would have dialogue when talion becomes a nazgul. He's silent when shaming and it's annoying. I would love to hear the dark side of him when he shames, just like celebrimbor. It would be really cool. I hope they add that in a future patch
Billy he's not as bad as celebrimbor. Celembrimbor only wanted to take over Mordor for his power. Talion does not necessarily want to make everyone a slave, just wants everyone to be in peace. So I don't think he WANTS to ruin a mind of an orc or olog.
Samuel Adams i get what you mean but i still think it would be cool to add some dialogue in for dark talion
It fits in Tolkien’s vision though. Back in his day, there was WW1 and how it changed the men who were in it. Shell Shock they called it back then. Having this orc become deranged is something he himself would’ve written if he was doing the writing for the game.
I really love this game for how detailed it is. Have a look at his name. As you shame him more and more he loses his title.
When he cries, you can hear the little "no, no, no" and "help me, help me". That's so sad
Quite frankly, I think you're the scary one here.
Is it just me or is the delivery of the line, "Until this moment, you have not known suffering!" totally badass? I got chills when he said that!
I really don't get why they did this. It seems so... weird.
It's to show that in some ways Celebrimbor is just as bad if not worse than Sauron now. It works
Schinak At the same time, it works in with the in-game progression and system as well: since you can't recruit uruks with a higher level than you or with the "iron will" trait, you have to shame them to bring them to a point you can recruit them, making a test of your morals: you have all the benefits... But is it worth it?
Why did I watch this at 01:15 AM
Put him out if hes pain plz :'c
Kalle Karlsson he is a video game character.
Ah, OK. "Put this video game character out of his misery, please". Is that better, Nathan?
Kostya Y. I just dont see the point of caring for somthing that does not exsist. Seems like a bad investment of effort and time.
The Tamagotchi kids would like a word with you.
Even if it’s just a video game character, it doesn’t mean someone can’t feel sympathy towards it. People sympathize with tv characters or movie characters, so what makes this different?
Funny thing is though, Talion is the only monster in this situation
I would totally brand him and build him back up again. XD That maniacal nature is something I want. I have a few mind-broken Uruks and a couple Ologs as Warchiefs in one of my forts. Crazy fun to have them. XD
1:28 *creature grabs your head and gently pushes you aside*
"Until this moment, you have not known suffering!"
This is what it's like fighting a high-level bugbear.
He even looks like a bugbear.
Could someone help me find a clean audio of the music playing at 2:39 ? That creepy metallic warble without any dialog.