You Don't Need ND Filters for DJI Osmo Pocket 3
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- Опубліковано 14 лип 2024
- We all want to get the most out of our gear, but that can come with extra costs and inconveniences. Let's break down why you would and wouldn't want to use ND filters on an action camera style setup like the DJI Osmo Pocket 3.
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Skyreat ND Filters: amzn.to/41JO5e3
Skyreat Black Mist Filter: amzn.to/3S0eP72
Godox Tube Light: amzn.to/3RIcrQT
Fujifilm X-H2S: amzn.to/3tMrZuS
Fujifilm XF 23mm 1.4 WR Lens: amzn.to/3tv0xC2
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0:00 Why Use ND Filters
1:01 Skyreat ND Filters
1:45 When To Use ND Filters
2:53 Invconvenience
4:05 Black Mist Filter
5:50 When Not To Use ND Filters
6:41 Conclusion - Наука та технологія
A gear review that doesn't make me buy something. Revolutionary. You earned a subscriber.
Keepin’ it real! 💯 and thank you for the sub!
But it is supposed to do, if someone feels to be in need. The links are easy to find.
This video earned my subscription. A normal dude giving a normal dude’s perspective on an accessory.
Thank you
Thanks for checking out the video and the sub! Definitely trying to keep it real on this channel. Spending my own money, so real thoughts only!
My God....real, honest and down right useful advice still exists today. I was on the fence about the ND filters and to be honest, I only purchased the OP3 for personal use, nothing work related. Dan The Man Virchow, job well done! You saved me $99 AUD on stinking filters.
Ha, great to hear! They definitely have their place, but in a personal work flow, just completely unnecessary. Go crush it!
Great video about what not to buy! I have been watching a ton of videos about this camera and it's all this settings you should have (framerate, shutter speed, iso etc.). Besides that you have to select gimble mode. When you have done all the settings correct you have missed the object you where supposed to shoot.
I’m with you on this. I have ND filters for my Sony cameras, but the point of the Pocket 3 for me is convenience. Turn it on and start shooting. I bought the K&F var ND filters and the are so hard to see the writing on them and the little tick mark. It makes it hard to set. I’ll probably hardly ever use the filters.
I just took the P3 to Europe for over 40 days and didn't use my ND filters once!
Very honest review and yes, most of the time we amateurs don’t need one at all. Totally agree with having to due with the hassle of taking it out putting it on, it is pretty taxing. But if it is not too expensive, I will still like to have them “just” in case situation 😂. Thanks for the great info and sharing the honest opinion. Have a great day.
Thank you for watching! I too always have some with me just in case. It all depends on what you're looking to capture, but for daily video that isn't going to be used for paid work or anything, no filter is the way to go!
Great content, Dan! Really like how you broke everything down. Insightful stuff! 🔥
Thanks for checking it out! 🙏🏼
Great honest review.. Tons of so called gurus(!) are promoting their freebie freewell filters lately.. Pointless.. Big hassle.. This is a point and shoot great camera.. If you are doing paid work.. buy a proper camera and then you can b uy filters for that proper camera!! Nobody really needs 180degree shutter rule/motion blur for such a great vlog camera... Great job Dan. Cheers.
That’s real talk! It’s a very capable camera, and I have used it on professional work, but it would never be my A Camera. The convenience factor of it is the greatest selling point to me!
Great review and thanks! Spot on with what I found. NDs are great but for my use case scenarios, not worth stopping & dealing with the hassle. And I love the Black mist filter. That's totally worth getting.
It’s mostly a mild inconvenience, but man…I just don’t wanna be slowed down when I’m out shooting!
you have an excellent presentation style and a soothing voice for vlogging. well done son :-)
Thank you! New videos coming soon.
Neewer filters are slim and can close (and open) without getting stuck 👍🏻
Neewer always makes solid products 💪🏼
Goodness! Just ordered them AFTER ordering Skyreat first. Being able to keep them on is a huge plus. Thanks for sharing!
Loved the real world experience. Great video brotha!!
Thanks man! Hope it helped in some way!
You are very honest in your opinion and I like it. Thanks.
Appreciate that, thank you!
Great review. Thanks! Subscribed.
Thank you, appreciate it!
I needed this nd filter review! I bout the Pocket 3 for convenience from my Sony cameras. And it’s good to know I won’t be buying gear that will just collect dust. Thank you for that!
As much as you don't need them, sometimes you do! In the event that you're using the P3 as a b-roll camera in some paid work, I would definitely have some form of ND around. But for 99% of general use, totally unnecessary!
Great honest review. Thanks bro
Thanks for checking it out!
Great breakdown. I've had the Pocket 3 for about a month now, and I absolutely love this camera. As you mentioned, the convenience of being able to point and shoot vs the setup with the a7siii was how it's supposed to be for vlogs. I was only able to get the base camera (not the creator combo) before my flight back to Vietnam, and I was worried about not having the ND filters with all of the outdoor filming that I'm doing for the channel. The moral of the story, everything looked crisp and I'm happy with the footage. For the untrained eye, watching UA-cam videos on their phone, it's not a big deal... (BTW what mic are you using for your A-roll here?)
Thanks for checking out the video! I'm using the Rode NT-USB+ microphone. I like it a lot! Here's a look: amzn.to/3UeKrY5
I bought ND filters for my Action 3... and they're still in the box 😆 I may pick up that Black Mist filter for my Pocket 3, but like you said it adds a level of complexity that makes you less likely to just USE the camera. As much as I like it it's finicky enough to precisely slide it back into the case so the gimbal head doesn't get jostled. My iPhone still wins as far as quick, one-handed operation with no snagging, cases or smudge-magnet little filters. You basically need three hands to handle the camera, filter and case at the same time.
I have a whole stack of filters I was so excited to use then just never did 😅 That black mist is worth checking out. There are many cool applications for that one.
I always have a filter on the Pocket 3 because I also use it as a lens protector. Using a bit thicker filter also makes the Pocket 3 turn the lens to the display side when turning off, which is fine by me since that side is always covered by the case.
I do agree that the Mist filter is a bit strong in most situations, and would be nice if the wide angle lens would be magnetized as well.
Good idea on using it as protection. I never used to use anything like a UV filter on a lens because I didn't want it to take away from the sharpness. That was until I dropped a lens...now I'm all about that protected life!
Made a great point. Awesome.
Hope it helped! Thanks for watching 🙏🏼
I agree, most people wandering around with this thing won't need any filters. But honestly, the footage out of this 1-inch sensor is VERY solid. I wouldn't have any qualms using this briefly as a B-cam during paid work (like attaching it to the rear of a car for some neat rig-style shots). Def a requirement for me, but everyone's mileage will vary!
Totally! I’m looking forward to using that as a B cam in 2024 in situations where I don’t want to stick out.
this is almost click bait .. I don't need filters but my video will look better and your state " I ll use them all the time" ..
The whole point is that you *don't need* them to have a great looking video. If you're into the "rules" of shutter speeds and such, then it would be favorable to have them. Thanks for checking the vid out!
GREAT video! Have been struggling with the Freewell filter set getting stuck on shut down. Found that the IZEAFH filter set on Amazon gets GREAT reviews and do NOT get stuck when shutting down the camera. Only problem being is they are thinner to elevate not getting stuck, but they are a little of a struggle to handle but DO have a finger nail notch on the top and bottom to help. Will probably get some. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for checking the video out! Man, it can be tricky getting these little filters off of the camera. I haven't used any ND's on the P3 since making this!
The honest review I'm looking for.
Hope it helped!
I’ve got the same filters and if you put them on back to front magnet side facing out they get stuck. When on right way the gimbal detects filter and moves to second parking position so it can be placed in camera case with lens facing downwards.
Great info to know! I just have had it on incorrectly. Thanks for sharing!
Love the video, I use ND filters on my Pocket 3 and it closes fine :) but I agree it probably won't be used much, until I need them when on holiday in super bright places.
Yeah I bought a huge pack of filters and it’s such a burden while I’m shooting outdoor to indoors
But if shooting b rolls it’s more of a fun for me, something to play with
From a Beginner of video and photography world
Yeah, if you can work around the inconveniences, filters are the way to go!
Thanks Dan! So would you say a regular vlogger that goes around and about to different places would not need ND filters?
Definitely don't need them! If you're looking to add motion blur to your footage, then its useful, but highly inconvenient when you're just runnin' and gunnin'
Getting P3 next week. I looked at the black mist filters and found the K&F filter. According to their description it wll let the lens close without hitting the gimbal. I will find out next week. As far as ND filters I fell into that rtrap on the Action 1, action 2 and the pocket 2 and never use them. Wasted a ton of money on them. The most I may do on this one is buy the VND's but that will be it.
Sounds like we're surfing the same wave. K&F always makes great products so it's probably definitely worth checking out their black mist filter!
Thanks for helping me decide on my dilemma.. Really wanna be very minimalist. That's why I bought this pocket 3.. So, no ND no problem. Black mist is in the shopping cart now.. 😅
No filter, no problem! For basic everyday use and just capturing your life, no ND is the way to go 👍🏼
Thanks for sharing this, great advice, too! Of course I'm gonna buy them, just freaked out now about them getting stuck, haha.
Making this video was the only time that happened to me, so I wouldn't be too worried about it...but apparently it's something that definitely can happen!
Thank you @@danvirchow! I immediately cancelled the order and reordered with Neewer ND filters recommended in your comments here. 🤣👍
Of course I realized that the Newer will be probably impossible to remove due its design, so I might be carrying a little plastic spudger 🤣
I use a wheelchair so this is actually my main camera along side the iPhone 15 Pro. I dont want to carry mirrorless with huge gimbals as is not practical for me but I like my footage to look cinematic so I use NDs and Lenses because after color grading will get much better. I didnt use them all the time tho but its much easier to set them on this pocket camera than to a mirrorless, calibrating a gimbal, will take me like 15min and sometimes just to shoot 2/3 minutes. Great video tho!
My brother was in a wheelchair and would have loved using a a camera like this. The NDs certainly make the footage look better if you’re hoping to optimize your video. Thanks for checking out the video, appreciate you!
I have the same black mist and turned the camera off. It also got stuck and now there is a rattle when turned off. I got on chat with DJI and they said the rattle is fine 100% normal. Do you hear the rattle when turned off?
I’ll have to check when I get near my camera again. However, I feel like I’ve heard from other videos that that rattle is normal. I’ll check!
If it helps, I can hear a slight rattle on mine, and I haven't attached any filters at all yet. It's probably just one of the internal gimbal elements moving a bit while powered off.
@@TimFilmsCars when your warranty expires they might have a different explanation for that Rattle lol
I'm seconding americansafarico, a gear review that didn't encourage me to buy something...unheard of lol. Great video bro. Got my sub.
Just keeping it real! Thanks for checking it out and the sub 🙏
I love the look you have on your pocket videos. What are your settings? Do you adjust the sharpness & noise? It’s super nice & film look! Can you make one on D Log Vs non D log? Would love to see your results since you get the film look. Thank you for this great detailed video.
Thanks for checking out the video! Sharpness is lowered just a bit and that’s about it! I use Gamut base luts and that was the only color change on the D-Log footage in this video. Here’s a link to the luts if you wanna check ‘em out: gamut.io/product/dji-conversion-luts/
Can you show us your best settings for the osmo pocket 3? I love how colorful and detailed your videos are when you show us what you shot without the filters
That could be a fun video to make...thanks for the recommendation! Stay tuned...
@@danvirchow No problem! Im a first time user and your quality is exactly what I want!! Thank you for quality videos
@@VENTAGExo here's a video on how I color my Pocket 3 clips: ua-cam.com/video/_vEnhU0gnRk/v-deo.htmlsi=O7ALVzyMcm1SmCup
Hello, thanks to share this interesting video. Out of curiosity: if you have to shoot on the beach close to sea with Pocket 3. If you shoot in 4K 50p and Automatic Exposure, what filter would you use? Would you use a CPL filter? I'd like to listen all of you.
I haven’t tried a CPL on the P3 yet but it would certainly be worth giving it a shot by water! Let me know if you do 👍🏼
@@danvirchow I thank you for your reply. Do you think CPL is betterr than ND/PL for my pourpose? Thanks again.
@@ExploringWorldUA-cam the ND filters will help you more in the event you shoot in manual exposure. They give you the ability to lower the shutter speed for the motion blur effect. So in your case, I think you’ll be best with a CPL 👍🏼
@@danvirchow Thanks for your precious news. If you were me, would you buy a a CPL or ND/PL ? I repeat, I shoot in 4K 50p in a city near the beach and on the beach with sun. Thanks again.
Fewer reflections on glass more transparency, water, car etc. surfaces. Blue sky, less mist and you can choose the intensity by screwing - CPL is a no-brainer. I'm a big fan of polarized sunglasses, the world looks just nicer and eases the eyes. Automatically you gain more dynamic range.
What type of filter for the pocket 3 would you recommend for mainly gym footage?
A mist filter would look great in a gym to make all the lights pop a little more! Adds some character to the environment.
Thanks for the vid! Are the ND filters wide lends too?
The ND filters are the normal focal length, so they don't make the image wider. Also, the ND filters I have don't magnetize to the wide angle filter. Hope that helps!
Thank you! It does, as I am about to buy one.
i totally agree with you, an average person can't even tell with or w/o ND filter. also you won't be using the P3 for paid shoots for sure so an ND is not necessary for personal content creation use
Keep telling yourself that 😐
I've used the P3 for a paid shoot...check out my latest video!
I have Skyreat filters set of ND8, 16, 32, 64. They are also CPL. The sky looks great with CPL on. Tried all of them ended up with ND 16 on Pocket 3 during Christmas trip in Disneyland. Why ND16? Because it's just enough for outside to not make shutter speed way too high and I didn't take it off when walked in coffee shop. This filter along with ISO 3200 max worked just fine. The background separation is more pronounced, clouds on the sky are not washed out. The things I didn't like are in my opinion it decreased details and CPL ring is hard to turn without interaction with gimbal, which will shut down when you apply some force during filter Ring rotation. Filter is thin, hard to take off camera, dropped it couple of times. It didn't break though. I'm going to return it and try something better. Did you try Freewell filters?
I’ve used Freewell filters on my mirrorless cameras before and never had any complaints! Haven’t used them on the P3 however.
@@danvirchow Thank you.
So, Dan…. I’m an average person who likes travelling, so I don’t need any filter? Even CPL or Mist, should I buy? Or not? Thanks ..
Unless you desire having motion blur, I wouldn't say that ND filters are necessary. A mist filter could add a fun blooming effect if you'd like to give your footage a little pizazz. A CPL would be useful if you deal with a lot of reflections and water. Personally, I'd only get a mist filter for what I use the P3 for.
id say, you dont need them if you cant be bothered to or if it becomes an incovenience. each has their own use case and id say this is a more personal take :)
Also, a lot of paid work are indoor so you also don't need nd filters. Same when it's cloudy or after sunset.
Correct!
Can you stack the filters? Black mist with ND?
yes because they are all magnetic. so they can be stack
Watching this video makes me realize I should probably get used to the camera WITHOUT any filters first so that I actually know how to film first
You’ll probably realize you don’t need the filters in the process!
Audio is a bit strange and distant. Like you're not sitting in front of us. Lipsync is a bit off too.
Excellent video otherwise, very informative
Yeah, didn’t nail the audio on the is one. always looking to improve! Thanks for checking out the video 🙏🏼
Yes. I will notice. But I do not think it matters when you walk around shooting videos of your kids.
Exactly!
Oh dear 🤯
I got the skyreat nd/cpl filters. Not because I need the nd so much, but the cpl is very important when recording cars. They can completely change how the car appears, not just window reflections, but how light reflects off paint. I also like their use when shooting glassy water. I'm sure you probably know what I'm talking about.
Definitely! I didn’t pick one of those up for the P3 as I don’t have an application for it in my work right now, but certainly a great buy if you need it!
Would be interested in how much one gains on dynamic range with CPL. Technically I assume that you don't get it correct when you talk about stops. The sky is much more blue and most of the reflections go away, there is just less area in the image where you could get in trouble by burning out the highlights.
@@tidatida4145 I haven't tried a CPL with the P3 yet. Let me know if you get a chance to and how it goes!
@@tidatida4145 I'm not sure how much you gain in DR. I believe the ND helps in reduction of light and can increase the natural motion blur appearance. The Polarizer is mostly used for how the reflections look on the car, it can really changed the appearance overall. There is little worry about the sky or how distant objects appear (they usually aren't changed dramatically or blown out to unusable levels)
The biggest lesson I've learned with the OP3 isn't related to the CPL or ND. Always be sure to lock the AWB. The OP3 makes dramatic color changes when the AWB isnt locked. Everything else functions like any camera would, but the auto white balance is a bit extreme in it's changes.
10bit has destroyed the need for ND filters
There is still a need for filters if you look to achieve motion blur in bright outdoor scenarios.
Maybe because I wear glasses I absolutely hate the mist look. It makes my eyes hurt and think the camera is blurry
The mist filter I have is a little strong, so I totally see where you’re coming from! I prefer less bloom.
Black mist filter looks awful and blurry 😅😅
These were pretty extreme examples just to showcase the effect. It would look great in a more subtle environment!
I cannot get them off!
Uh oh...stuck from turning off the camera?
@@danvirchow - with the pocket 3 on, it feels like I’m going to break the head off the gimbal as I try to get a fingernail under the magnetic filter. They are really on there and I have big, fat fingers.
@@boycefitzgerald gotta admit I also felt uncomfortable trying to take them on and off while the P3 was on. Feels like you’re fighting the motors of the unit 😬
@@danvirchow - appreciate you. I’ll practice and try not to break it.
To me, no filter video image looks much much better.
Probably a little sharper!
Dude let some of that room tone back in on your mic and bring back the compression. Your dialog is so dry sounding and compressed that it will make viewers focus on the wrong thing because it almost feels overdubbed instead of a real human talking to them. Also thanks for the video, I was wondering about these filters.
Appreciate the feedback! I'll definitely work on better audio in the next video. Thanks for checking this one out!
@@danvirchow Thanks, I didn't mean to come across harsh at all. I'm an audio geek and record and mix dialog for TV and broadcast so I get a little picky 🤣
@@christurbiville ha, understood and appreciated! Dropped another video today and hope the audio is sounding better!
@@danvirchowHey man,Great video! First things first. I saw the title of your video and drew my attention right away because I recently but the Osmo Pocket 3, and I’ve been contemplating getting the Freewell super big pack… I forgot how it’s called. Part 2 of the first things first… I was like daaaamn he has a Papa Emeritus III picture, ok I’m staying this dude is cool! I’m a huge Ghost fan myself. Regarding the comment about the sound… Maaaan… I’ve seen so many videos and people with millions of views that haven’t even invested on a $25 microphone for their phone. I did notice myself some strong “ssss” sounds and boomy low end which only you know what your settings are, buuuut are they determining factors to deter someone to watching your content considering it’s still properly recorded? No I don’t think so. I just think it’s an area of opportunity. Also regarding how for some reason the ND filter got stuck when you turned off the camera. I recall seeing some other videos where the Osmo pocket is supposed to sense the filter and not hide the lens so that you can take it off and not put any stress on the motors. I wonder if it could be something with this specific brand. Anyways cheers man!
your audio is too low
Of course you need them. And it looks like this is clickbait anyhow. Yea you can’t set the camera to 1/60th frame rate and iso 100 in daylight if you want proper images.
Well, that's the point I was making within the video. If you want motion blur, yes, you need them. However, a majority of people who are just looking for a high quality camera to capture their life will not need them, nor will they care that they don't have them. All a matter of use case!
Do you really think the DJI Pocket 3 is an action camera?
Nooooo, that’s why I said “action style cameras like the P3.” More so referring to its compact nature. Perhaps I could have worded it better!
your audio voice is leveled weird.
Always working to improve my audio. Will keep on it! Thanks for checking out the video.
don't drink and vlog.
😂😂😂