Very carefully filmed without disclosing any properties, specs, or showing anything but the most basic animation. Field shots are always a welcome sight, that's about it.
There was a picture of a mock-up of a turret with the CT40 cannon on a Boxer. I do hope the MoD will at least look into getting a Boxer IFV/FSV with this turret. IMHO, I think the troops will appreciate the additional firepower.
@@thecurlew7403 the cannon has very good elevation, 85 ⁰ I think. Combine that with some timed/proximity fused fragmentation rounds and this is likely a very capable weapon against drones. All by accident as well I believe, I think we initially wanted the high elevation for urban combat, lo and behold however many years later and we have a very good anti-drone weapon.
Looks like you can't put them in backwards. They physically won't locate or go into the carousel as there is a locator groove at the rear of the cartridge if you try and put them in the wrong way.
The animation must be wrong. Unless they designed the rounds so the detonator and primer are the same and the projectile can go out either end of the shell casing.
You have to extract and reload with moving parts normally too. It's certaintly the thing to think about, looks good to me though. Now I'm wondering whether it "clutches" in to a recess in the barrel or simply rotates with a tight clearance.
You're confusing the complexity of the ammo loader with the simplicity of the cannon. I'm pretty sure the loader can be moved aside and the cannon can be manually loaded.
Well assuming it’s electronically controlled, there would obviously me extensive code and multiple sensors preventing any of this occurring. I understand if this was made mechanical,y operating though.
So every single round you load, you have to open a metal drawer, insert the round, and close the drawer again, and rinse and repeat? And that's the most efficient way you could come up with to rearm the system? Wow. Even the rotating chamber in the middle doesn't strike me as particularly ingenius, it strikes me as likely to seize during prolonged use in a dirty battlefield the like of which we're witnessing today. Why not just use the shape of the round to your advantage and have a fixed port and a trapdoor, theres got to be considerably less surface area on a door than a full rotating body assembly?
Will be a quite violent recoil when the gun cant move back much to absorb and lengthen the recoil impulse. Also for high rate of fire, you dont need that high of a rate of fire when you only have 60 shots.
I've 'played' with a few Wikipedia pages myself - it struck me as fascinating how one page recommended improper use of medicines which it said itself were likely to cause death if misused further up.
@@stephengilmore2741 Yeah, most military products produced with the French are made in France. French Govt very protective of their military industry while we tend to sell off to the highest bidder and then complain there's very little military production in the UK.
If it was any good it wouldn't be made public. Such a system requires some 3-6 months of development, not 25 years, depending on funding and resources available.
@Turnipstalk well, given that people have designed analogous systems (for their time, and well before CAD), using many years of experience, and with the right stimulus to do so and with the right funding, very quickly, I think it's a reasonable comment. What's your, I'm sure expert, opinion on the time that would be needed? Indeed, no one mentioned CAD but yourself.
Now you have shown it to the world, don't be surprised if other countries military engineers take notice and then produce their own version in a few years.
Rotating breech will have lots of fast stops and starts that need to be spot on accurate. To make that work is impressive; but will it still work well after its fired a lot of rounds?
I imagine the receiver off to the side may also make it easier for all ammunition to be kept separate from the crew compartment and make use of blowout panels, improving survivability.
Very interesting and cool! From an engineering perspective- is there any concern that with added moving parts, especially in such a critical location of the weapon, that there is increased chance of failure?
Electronically run guns are far more reliable than has or recoil operated arms but it also means sensors can be added to prevent problems. Its much like any electrical machine
Don't mean to sharpshoot the idea (which I LIKE) but it reminds me of Stoner's Ares XM274 75mm. Perhaps it could be said to be better due to its smaller caliber too because of the space required to hold all of the ammo. Short Form:....Nice!
My issue with this is that I see at least two failure points, both involving the ammo line up system, after the chamber rotates back, is there a hard stop to ensure proper lining of the chamber and also after firing does it line up again? Are there switches that ensure that they are lined up before another round is attempted to load in and if they fail can a manual over ride be used?
Compared to current Warriors 30mm autocannon this is far better. Superior penetration, rate of fire, airburst against infantry behind cover and anti-air capabilities especially against drones using airburst.
I can’t help but feel the advantages of less space isn’t balanced well with the additional complications of the receiver-something else to maintain or break!
I wonder how smart the aiming system is. For example, can you aim it at the base of a tank turret where the tank is moving and have it correctly lead it?
I presume that this has a lot more moving parts than the traditional configuration. If that's true then I hope it's at par with current systems when it comes to reliability.
How much gas to you loose between the cylinder and the barrel interface with your rotating chamber? In a revolver pistol for example, the gas leak between the cylinder and the barrel interface is significant.
Yeah, that so slow. If it takes 25 years to make a simple-ish cannon you know that there is resistance somewhere in the system. Can really suck being a weapons designer spending your whole career on something that has a high chance of never being used or adopted.
Agreed if we had different AC-130s would be great.. have one with 3 of these 40mm and the "ant dance on the floor" would be great.. the UK should have 2 AC-130s and they could also be for NATO also.. UK should also consider using the 30mm GAU on a dedicated fire platform for ground and anti air attack..
Super advanced latest technology manualy loaded cannon. Manual loading has great future, as humans are not so prone to various malfunctions what automatic systems could have. But what about price tag?
Sure this sticks less into the cabin, but do you really gain any interior space when you still need to accommodate a huge ammo loading and storage system just in a different location. I am kind of failing to see the massive problem this solved or what the advantage is here. Is this gun that much cheaper to produce that it warrants the use of this over existing 40mm guns? Is a few degrees of elevation on the gun the only real benefit here? (Edit: Read up on this some more and wow. This was 30 years of embracing avoidable problems until they were things that required major redesigns(Like did no one even think that hanging a three ton loading system up to a meter off the centerline of the turret might cause some balance issues for the turret and cause the gyros that are trying to stabilize the gun to go nuts). When the Americans tested it they found the recoil impulse was so sharp that if would sometimes cause the firing control system to shut down. Also when you fired the last round in the magazine it could get stuck in the breach and there was no way to remove it from inside the vehicle. They also lost almost all the initial customers meaning projected ammunition cost skyrocketed to the point where it would be cheaper to bribe the enemy into going home then firing)
I got excited to begin with because I thought we had built something as a nation. Then I read the bit about the factory being in France. Looks like a good bit of kit though. Is there not any way of making the reloading faster?
That is a brilliant idea.. Just make a little 5 or ten round "cassette"( or clip) that you just snap downwards into place.. Shizznitts! Great design....!
the smartest NEW use of the HK G11 system I've see in a loooongwhile. and loading through the Trunnion is simply genius. very nice. I'm impressed.
Hehehe... Glad I'm not the only one who thought of the G11's rotating Clockwork loading / extraction Mechanism 🤣
It looks similar, however if memory serves me right, the G11‘s mechanism spins 90 degrees back an forth instead of going 180 for each cycle.
Kraut Space Magic! Ja Ja Ja!
The G11 used caseless ammo
The P90 already use a 90° blot action
Congratulations to all the design engineers
French design engineers
@@HorsleyLandy88 Make sense since its a cooperation between the Brits and the French im sure they worked on it too like he said its been 25 years !
Can it be mounted to a 2004 Vauxhall Astra??
Any pickup truck, such as a Taliban Toyota..😂
Like an old girlfriend of mine😊
@@bartram33 I remember her, she was very good.
@@cesiumalloy Good? she was magnificent😵💫
She liked a big barrel?
Very carefully filmed without disclosing any properties, specs, or showing anything but the most basic animation.
Field shots are always a welcome sight, that's about it.
There was a picture of a mock-up of a turret with the CT40 cannon on a Boxer. I do hope the MoD will at least look into getting a Boxer IFV/FSV with this turret. IMHO, I think the troops will appreciate the additional firepower.
It does make more sense for the Boxer to have a 40mm gun too instead of the 30mm found on most Boxer IFVs, one ammo type for both
I am sure they will put it on anything which fits
UK ordered 500 CT40's, so maybe given that number.
The rotating breech also allows the barrel to be raised by 60°.
@@peterabbott1974 or is the cheapest
A great peice of defence and attack. The compact ammunition is a game changer.
What about drones how will it deal with them ?
@@thecurlew7403 the cannon has very good elevation, 85 ⁰ I think. Combine that with some timed/proximity fused fragmentation rounds and this is likely a very capable weapon against drones.
All by accident as well I believe, I think we initially wanted the high elevation for urban combat, lo and behold however many years later and we have a very good anti-drone weapon.
@@regarded9702 Wiki in french says pointing from -10° to +75°.
Fir urban combat can be a game changer
Beautiful design! Simple, compact, elegant and efficient!
1:46 i really hope that it can turn the rounds 180° if theyre put in backwards. Or atleast reject it.
Looks like you can't put them in backwards. They physically won't locate or go into the carousel as there is a locator groove at the rear of the cartridge if you try and put them in the wrong way.
The animation must be wrong. Unless they designed the rounds so the detonator and primer are the same and the projectile can go out either end of the shell casing.
Cracking video, very impressive. Very useful in the Spring sales next year.
John Lewis have these on offer already
CT stands for 'Channel Trespasser'
Excellent name. Very current.
Innovative to be sure but its added complexity increases the number of moving parts. All of which will have to be maintained under combat conditions.
I’ll use the gun in the video, you get yourself a club. Club has only one moving part, must be better.
You have to extract and reload with moving parts normally too. It's certaintly the thing to think about, looks good to me though. Now I'm wondering whether it "clutches" in to a recess in the barrel or simply rotates with a tight clearance.
@@matthewkantar5583 Did you think of your response all by yourself or did your mother help you with it?
@@BeamRider100 No doubt. Just an observation and given the required logistics to support an artillery battery, parts can become a serious issue.
You're confusing the complexity of the ammo loader with the simplicity of the cannon. I'm pretty sure the loader can be moved aside and the cannon can be manually loaded.
Would have been nice to see live fire effect on an armoured target.
it makes a hole in it
Boom
and give away is capability? Not yet I think.
@@gunggerdin1 Don't worry, the time it will take to get in service Putin will have the details in plenty of time!
Performance against armor is same as 35mm, approx 140mm penetration. Airburst or HE are better though on 40mm.
"This is the barrel, obviously." Yes, I am something of a cannon expert, myself.
One problem i can see with the spinning breach is how you can clear a jam.
Looks like the loading arm can ram it through with the next round.
breech.
Well assuming it’s electronically controlled, there would obviously me extensive code and multiple sensors preventing any of this occurring. I understand if this was made mechanical,y operating though.
@@Sam-nx9ec do you seriously want to be in any IFV which would even try to do that?
@@Polkem1 I think you mean "numerous". Electronic sensors are liable to degradation on function due to to dust, dirt and all manner of factors.
Ah, the good ol' "put it in sideway" lol
The firefly’s legacy
wow well done boys engineering at its finest
Now that is a great hew design.
new*
Wow. Outstanding. Thank you.
Thanks for helping to keep us all safe from our enemies ❤️🙏
My first though was it saves recoil space but needs a huge side assembly.
Wait, I gotta hear this guy say "Captain, she'll blow the warp core" !
😂🤣🤣👏😁
They made it considerably more complex. The breach is now low profile, but I’m not sure if the trade-off is worth it.
Absolutely brilliant!
VERY NICE DESIGN AUTO LOADER CANNON. JOB WELL DONE FELLAS.
So every single round you load, you have to open a metal drawer, insert the round, and close the drawer again, and rinse and repeat? And that's the most efficient way you could come up with to rearm the system? Wow.
Even the rotating chamber in the middle doesn't strike me as particularly ingenius, it strikes me as likely to seize during prolonged use in a dirty battlefield the like of which we're witnessing today. Why not just use the shape of the round to your advantage and have a fixed port and a trapdoor, theres got to be considerably less surface area on a door than a full rotating body assembly?
Innovative new design, little recoil, and high rate of fire, excellent!
The A3B light anti-air ammunition is fantastic too!
The recoil is probably not so little, it was the breach that had a short travel, to save space inside the turret.
Will be a quite violent recoil when the gun cant move back much to absorb and lengthen the recoil impulse. Also for high rate of fire, you dont need that high of a rate of fire when you only have 60 shots.
Thats some phenomenal design and engineering.
I created the Wikipedia page about this cannon along with many other military related articles. I am from Bangladesh. I am happy to watch this video.
I've 'played' with a few Wikipedia pages myself - it struck me as fascinating how one page recommended improper use of medicines which it said itself were likely to cause death if misused further up.
Please stop using the term “😢GAMECHANGING’ the public are not ignorant anymore
The MoD R&D finally catching up?! Hurray, hopefully this is the start a series of good decisions and designs.
This is technically a private innovation. The company that makes it is a BAE and Nexter joint venture.
It's a joint venture with the French, and made in France. Let's not give the MoD too much credit just yet.
@@stephengilmore2741 Yeah, most military products produced with the French are made in France. French Govt very protective of their military industry while we tend to sell off to the highest bidder and then complain there's very little military production in the UK.
If it was any good it wouldn't be made public. Such a system requires some 3-6 months of development, not 25 years, depending on funding and resources available.
@Turnipstalk well, given that people have designed analogous systems (for their time, and well before CAD), using many years of experience, and with the right stimulus to do so and with the right funding, very quickly, I think it's a reasonable comment. What's your, I'm sure expert, opinion on the time that would be needed? Indeed, no one mentioned CAD but yourself.
Thank you
Technology is faster than development really
I hope this concept could be scaled up, it could fill many roles on both land and sea
Now you have shown it to the world, don't be surprised if other countries military engineers take notice and then produce their own version in a few years.
Rotating breech will have lots of fast stops and starts that need to be spot on accurate. To make that work is impressive; but will it still work well after its fired a lot of rounds?
Look at the complexity of the GAU-8 for comparison-that weapon has been running reliably for years
Great point. 😐
I imagine the receiver off to the side may also make it easier for all ammunition to be kept separate from the crew compartment and make use of blowout panels, improving survivability.
Nice gun. Congrats.
looks like a 'weapon' also looks like many many moving parts, each of which is a potential point of failure, not ideal when under pressure in battle.
I used to fire 40mm grenades with a Bofors anti air gun. The shells were 2.5 times bigger than this. This can only be a short range weapon.
Dunning Kruger effect.
@@bobkoroua Diane Kruger ? she's well fit, but guns ??
Once again a game changer just when the rules were clear now comes a new learning curve. All these games being changed I can’t keep up.
Very tight tolerances. Could be a problem in dirty/dusty environments.
That's what engineers are for.
@@28704joe True. But just look at the first generation m16A1 rifles.
@@robertodebeers2551 Good point. What I found interesting is they have been developing this for 25 years, talk about issues to overcome.
@@28704joe I kind of doubt if it's fit for service yet and it may never be. 😐
G11 is a rotary bolt but it is not enclosed, I imagine the tolerances are pretty good. Totally makes sense to lose the reciprocation.
Very interesting design
Consumes the same amount of space as a traditional setup. They just moved the receiver to the side and developed a failure-prone, complex system.
Bingo! We have a winner. 👍
It's also been in development for OVER 25 YEARS and I suspect that they're not finished yet. 😐
Wait and see the guy who has to clean that thing haha
Brilliant observation. 🤣👍
It’s always us Scot’s that come up with best inventions thanks for what you do
As one of my uncles told me dryly, "If it wasn't for us they'd still be living in trees."
Glaswegians are fluent in English and sarcasm.
Ermmm, but us English invented the industrial revolution too.
@@charlieross-BRM Your uncle was surely talking about the industrial revolution, south of the border 😉
Brilliant.
Very interesting and cool! From an engineering perspective- is there any concern that with added moving parts, especially in such a critical location of the weapon, that there is increased chance of failure?
Electronically run guns are far more reliable than has or recoil operated arms but it also means sensors can be added to prevent problems. Its much like any electrical machine
*gas
@@weronikazalewska2098 Maybe in a factory, but in battle it may not be reliable. 😐
Would have been brilliant on the old Warrior IFV as an upgrade.
Facinting design, i hope it works out
Did you mean to say 'fascinating'?
1:14 holy cow... how do you gas-tighten that?
Engineers will say "If it moves, it breaks." Looks like some unnecessary moving parts for the sake of downsizing.
No point in fancy defenses like cannons when you just allow the invaders to walk up the beach from their boats
You guys lost get over it.
That was 1066. What have you been doing since? Just complaining?
Stop being a snowflake. It's embarrassing.
A brilliant idea and perfectly executed … size … wight …
speed … fire power … flexible
Eat your heart out bushmaster
Owsom! Thats inovation.
This mob can’t even stop dinghies
Looks ideal for home defence.
you must be a Brit - in the US they'd want something considerably bigger 😆😆😆
Don't mean to sharpshoot the idea (which I LIKE) but it reminds me of Stoner's Ares XM274 75mm. Perhaps it could be said to be better due to its smaller caliber too because of the space required to hold all of the ammo. Short Form:....Nice!
My issue with this is that I see at least two failure points, both involving the ammo line up system, after the chamber rotates back, is there a hard stop to ensure proper lining of the chamber and also after firing does it line up again? Are there switches that ensure that they are lined up before another round is attempted to load in and if they fail can a manual over ride be used?
@TurnipstalkNot 20, OVER 25! I suspect that they have had and probably still have reliability issues.
Very clever mechanism!
very smart and clever design.
Ah! Another game changer!!
Ah, another pointless comment!
Compared to current Warriors 30mm autocannon this is far better. Superior penetration, rate of fire, airburst against infantry behind cover and anti-air capabilities especially against drones using airburst.
I can’t help but feel the advantages of less space isn’t balanced well with the additional complications of the receiver-something else to maintain or break!
25 years to develop just this? You gotta be kidding. Obviously state funded.
Watching this with captions on, the reference at 1:08 to an ‘anal’ ammunition system will do nothing to help recruitment figures..
I don't know.. 'Ammunition anal system' will perhaps help recruit those who wish to be 'in the rear with the gear'.
😉👍😎
Don't know. It might attract people who enjoyed the Flintstones and want to have a _gay old time._ 🤦♂
I wonder how smart the aiming system is. For example, can you aim it at the base of a tank turret where the tank is moving and have it correctly lead it?
I was in the TA in the 60s and this reminds remminds my of 40MM Boafors gun !
Here's hoping all that electronic is EMP proof.
I bet The joint between the rotor and barrel was a challenge. Thats in for some erosion/flame cutting
I presume that this has a lot more moving parts than the traditional configuration. If that's true then I hope it's at par with current systems when it comes to reliability.
Ya reckon? 😐
Nicely done.
What is systems main draw-back?
Can it be retrofitted?
How much gas to you loose between the cylinder and the barrel interface with your rotating chamber? In a revolver pistol for example, the gas leak between the cylinder and the barrel interface is significant.
What are shell bodies made of? Are they recovered for reconditioning once they have been fired?
👏👏👍...smart idea!👌...looks a cracking bit of kit!!..well done to all involved!👏😁
You've convinced me, I'll get two.
nice to see some fresh thinking
He's spent 25 years of his life working on creating this weapon - wow!
Yeah, that so slow. If it takes 25 years to make a simple-ish cannon you know that there is resistance somewhere in the system. Can really suck being a weapons designer spending your whole career on something that has a high chance of never being used or adopted.
@@rustknuckleirongut8107 I suppose that just depends on his salary. Think of it as a career for life.
Another gr8 British design..
It looks as reliable as a Leyland multi-fuel engine. 😐
Will this be available in America in a CCW version?
Would love to see a version for the AC-130, as they had to drop the 40mm Bofors due to lack of parts for the WW2 era system.
Lack of parts? It's still in production. There is only a lack of parts if there is a lack of orders placed for parts.
@@iatsd I never said L/60 production had stopped. I only referred to the US only using its existing stock of L/60 parts, which had come to an end.
Agreed if we had different AC-130s would be great.. have one with 3 of these 40mm and the "ant dance on the floor" would be great.. the UK should have 2 AC-130s and they could also be for NATO also.. UK should also consider using the 30mm GAU on a dedicated fire platform for ground and anti air attack..
@@aaronrey2658 why tf would they want to use a gau30 when they have far better & more modern options?!
How do you stop them from putting the rounds in backwards? How does the system recover when they figure out how to do it anyway?
Super advanced latest technology manualy loaded cannon. Manual loading has great future, as humans are not so prone to various malfunctions what automatic systems could have. But what about price tag?
It's as manually loaded as a T-72. The human loader loads the carrousel, rounds are automatically loaded from the carrousel to the breach.
Sure this sticks less into the cabin, but do you really gain any interior space when you still need to accommodate a huge ammo loading and storage system just in a different location. I am kind of failing to see the massive problem this solved or what the advantage is here. Is this gun that much cheaper to produce that it warrants the use of this over existing 40mm guns? Is a few degrees of elevation on the gun the only real benefit here?
(Edit: Read up on this some more and wow. This was 30 years of embracing avoidable problems until they were things that required major redesigns(Like did no one even think that hanging a three ton loading system up to a meter off the centerline of the turret might cause some balance issues for the turret and cause the gyros that are trying to stabilize the gun to go nuts).
When the Americans tested it they found the recoil impulse was so sharp that if would sometimes cause the firing control system to shut down. Also when you fired the last round in the magazine it could get stuck in the breach and there was no way to remove it from inside the vehicle. They also lost almost all the initial customers meaning projected ammunition cost skyrocketed to the point where it would be cheaper to bribe the enemy into going home then firing)
Not new. This design was going to be used on the upgraded (now cancelled) Warrior. I saw it firing about 10 years ago.
FN P90 come with each one?
I got excited to begin with because I thought we had built something as a nation. Then I read the bit about the factory being in France. Looks like a good bit of kit though. Is there not any way of making the reloading faster?
That is a brilliant idea..
Just make a little 5 or ten round "cassette"( or clip) that you just snap downwards into place..
Shizznitts!
Great design....!
A giant stripper clip.
So it's a sideways, 360 degree breech version of the XM274 that ARES developed 50 years ago?
Freaking brilliant.
Essentially a REVOLVER !!?
But the Shells though ...really cool!
That is not how a revolver works
Where’s my episode of forgotten weapons on this thing?
Very cool.
What is a “proofing mount” ?
The last time the British had game changing military tech was 100 years ago.
Nice weapon. See how it handles the tests of time.
The 2 pounder was obsolete by 1941. What is it expected to do on the battlefield?
I wonder when the "hobbyists" are going to print at home a similar hand held version.
loading system reminds me of the P90 pdw mags
The chamber system reminds me of the H&K G11