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a bit different. Hu tao mains enjoyed being top pyro dps far longer from v.1.3-4.X while arlecchino v.4.6-5.3. i think that's where the salt is coming from. she didn't even last on top before her 1st re-run since the power creep came so fast.
I'm an Arlecchino main so don't get me wrong, but it would be weird if the Pyro Archon wasn't the most powerful pyro character. Father is close enough that I'm happy though.
“My beautiful queen Arlecchino solos.. My beautiful queen Arlecchino solos..” I mutter rocking back and forth in my straight jacket as they drag me off to my padded cell.
doesnt even need a guide. the character is just literally a cinder city artifact user. sac sword just stack er and crit, or go full em for overload, burgeon teams. done.
Meanwhile Chasca seems to be the best against flying and shielded enemies. I am using Mavuika as an off field / sub dps, she really boosts ganyu's damage and helps even with chasca too. Its fun using Mavuika and Ororon together for the overload pyro application.
Its resictance was alrady down at that time, it doesnt have to fully get up, if u start mavuikas rotation when you start the abyss timer her burst hits right after the boss drops its resictance
@redsky397no, his resistence was still up. If it was down, the damage would be like 6-7kk. IWin even said that Mav was able to 1kk shot primo geo with his res up
@@Mikaela_77 hmm, seems about right, against next boss it did way more indeed. My mistake i guess. But thats indeed crazy hitting over a million with resistance still up.
For those wondering "who should i get mavuika or arlecchino?" I'd say just pull for whoever you like more while mavuika is undoubtedly stronger that doesn't mean arlecchino is weak at all it all comes down to who you like more here
@@Bulbasaurrrr-uo8oeif you watched the video You’d notice she beat out Arle with Xingqui, Bennett and sucrose By simply using Kachina, Benett and Sucrose
@@bamshakfwangyil1452 If you watched the video, you'll see their f2p Mavuika used Kachina, bennett, and Rosaria. Aka, a MELT team. In contrast to Arlecchino who was played in a vape team, which deals significantly LESS damage then melt. Was kind of unfair scenario to compare them with, ngl.
@@blazingdragonwolf6771arlecchino would still perform worse with the melt team, and the unfair thing is that xq sucrose are just way better char than kachina rozaria. You're not accounting for mavuika lower talent lvl either.
I've been playing genshin for around 2 years now. Arlecchino helped me hit 100k damage for the first time with a leftover gladiator set I forgot about 4 star supports.
@@chakib7781 I wonder if leveling up her skill would be as drastically as leveling her ult from 9 to 10, like I was spectating maybe a 25k increase but the moment I hit a 1m my jaw dropped because it was literally a 56k increase, she is hitting like 288k charged or something like that so leveling up her skill will make her hit 300k but I wonder if I will hit 400k because right now her skill is at lvl 6 and if her skill increase is similar to her ult then mauvika is actually busted.
Tbh, as an Arlecchino main and lover, I'm not upset at all that Mavuika is stronger. It was obvious Arle wasn't going to be at the top forever. I'm still going to go for Arlecchino coms instead of getting Mavuika, just because I like Arlecchino more.
Yep if you have arle no need for mauvika, yes she is good but is it worth it to bench Arle i dont think so if you have infinite promos then anything is good but as primos hard to come by let's not waste our primos by just blindly following meta.
not that surprising if you ever built him for damage; he Melted + other team buffs + (I don't think most people realize this) his Atk buff applies to his own burst as he is casting it + his burst cast has a very solid 495% Atk multiplier at talent level 13.
Bennett's shoulders have been heavy for years and be like "Time for the next Archon to take the torch. Wait until his next character quest we find he gives up his gnosis and is sipping Osmanthus wine with Zhongli.
13:18 i have read and do understand the disclaimers but, i thought i would mention this so that the viewers and potentially mr. iwintolose who own arlecchino's signature can use its passive(IF u didnt know this trick yet) in this melt team you can start out the rotation by doing a charged attack to get the passive then quickly press E and goto supports and do the rotation as normal and u can cancel her CA when u get back to her.
Yeah. The biggest difference I see between Mavuika and Arle here is that Mavuika is a Melt Nuke, which means she's faster for anything that wouldn't survive anyways.
I forgot who that content creator is but I saw him comparing C0R1 Mavuika to C2R1 Arlecchino vs. the Raiden Shogun Weekly Boss. Arlecchino finished the challenge by 3-5 seconds faster than Mavuika. But you know what's the catch? The C0R1 Mavuika is at 1-1-1 Talents while the C2R1 Arlecchino is at 10-9-6 😭😭😭
The video u saw comparing c0 mevuika and c2 arlecchino, I was the one who asked for that. Altho I asked for c1 arlecchino vs c0 mevuika. But man the powercreep is real . And we saw on this video that mevuika having more nuke dmg potential and higher dmg ceiling , the clear time was like 10-12s difference before the new abyss at c0. So I think if arlecchino gets a good support character just like citalali for mevuika , I think arlecchino and mevuika will be similar. Still neuvilet is best for f2p investment
@oyasimakram6080 Oh really that was you who asked that? Pretty cool to see you here, haha! I'm a 1.0 Player and I'm quite scared that they scaled Mavuika's Nuke damage so much that we will have an HP Inflation in the future. I hope they don't pull an HSR HP Inflation type of move in Genshin. Mavuika dropping and being the one of, if not the best nuke damage dealer in the game says alot for the future of the game and its endgame.
What i don't like is that haters try to discourage people from pulling Mavuika by saying that she is not f2p friendly. From her f2p performance i'd say she is very f2p friendly and i would really encourage new players to get her if they want an easier time with the game. It's fine if you want to support your favorite character but no need to put down other characters and spread hate.
Totally agree, the negativity and hate is so real on many other social networks, that simps don't have guts to take L peacefully but to spread false information blatantly about Mavuika without getting their facts right. I totally smell the same toxicity as Hu Tao mains had when Arlecchino powercrept her.
As someone who has both of them, tbh yes Mavuika is definitely stronger and nukes a lot, but NOT by a lot. But the thing is Mavuika needs a 5 star Natlan character to use her at her full potential. My Arlecchino on the other hand, gives slightly less damage with literally under-levelled 4 star supports and not to mention, there are a LOT of different teams that she can go with. So go for Mavuika if you want an amazing dps with cool exploration skills, bt do consider her fighting spirit req. Nd go for Arle if you want a good f2p dps who can work even with 4 star supports.
i find it interesting that the top 3 pyro dps, Hu Tao, Arlecchino and Mavuika all have something to do with 'death' when obtaining their powers Edit: oh wow you guys completely missed what i wanted to say, i just wanted to say an interesting fact on the way they get their powers im not stating which is which is better 💀. So what is wrong with Hutao,Arlecchino and Mavuika being my top 3? in the end, these characters never changed and will always be strong.
@@j4yforces isn't hu tao also ass to play nowadays lol her damage is so bad id rather play lyney cuz at least he does damage and doesn't need jump cancels
Said by every Arle mains and then get dominated by a Kachina when their Arle is using a C6 Sucrose and a C6 XQ LMAO. There's literally no res shredder in that Mav F2P team and they still clear faster 😂
@@S3tsuna1+75% NA damage from Abyss favoring Arle 😂 Edit: The f2p showcase was actually done on 5.2 Abyss. C0R1 showcase was done on current Abyss where the 75% NA bonus applies.
Mavuika is indeed probably the strongest dps in game rn, but it doesn't mean arlecc is weak. Based on my experience arlecc has: - more flexible damage window and faster damage delivery (good against bosses like iniquitous babtist or high mobility elites), I feel mavuika on field teams plays like raiden hypercarry - also better survivability rate than mavu thanks to self heal and resistance increase), coz you know, the anxiety of getting hit when doing donuts on mavu exists against hard hitting boss when citlali's shield is gone 😂 So arlecc mains, keep ur chin up. While mavu beat arlecc damage but arlecc is still a pretty good unit to have. I have 2 pyro teams now because of mavuika
@@cuszh Most of the time Mavuika going circles helps her dodge attacks and Yeah I've never experience getting one-shotted playing her. Plus I'll be more anxious getting hit playing Arle than Mavuika without shield 🤣
There's powercreep in every live service game, now whether it's a bad thing or a nothing burger depends on if you can still clear end-game content with older units. And for Genshin the answer is yes you can. It's always been pull for convenience of having shorter combat times and lower investments. Obviously if you're pure F2P you'll need to have high investments on your units if they are not the current meta units. INVESTMENT IS KEY
C0R1 Mavuika at talent 10 with some very lucky artifact rolls, I was shocked when I hit 1.5 million burst on a boss testing her out. She’s just buuussssssted lmao
at this point all that matters is the plsystyle you like more because although slower, arlecchino damage is still more than enough edit: Mavuika simps are toxic asf and Arlecchino simps are coping real hard, its honestly hard to watch lmao, what makes you think i even have arlecchino
@@lefterismplanas4977i would agree with you but she makes travel 10 times easier. Plus there not much to the gameplay in genshin anyway. Just basic rotations.
@robertlaidlaw4592 I mean... the easy solution to the immersion breaking character kits would've been to give each character belonging to the *NATION OF DRAGONS* their own dragon, but maybe that's just me. I mean... would it have been cooler if mavuika was riding a dragon? If Chaska was balancing ontop of a Ququsaur and loading multiple arrows into her bow? No? Just me? Ok
Mavuika mains: "Arlecchino is bad, Mavuika is better" Arlecchino mains: "Mavuika is locked to Natlan supports, she's so bad" Me who has both: "I just keep on winning XD" Go ahead and continue to fight, I'll be watching with a popcorn at hand clearing with Arlecchino on one side and Mavuika on the other XD
I kinda wish there had been time for Hu Tao and Lyney too, but I get that these videos take a while to make. Then again, you did spare me from watching my strongest DPS get annihilated in the solo and C6 categories. Though I think she would still hold her own in the C0R1 best in slot team part of the video.
It’s weird that he’s doing a comparison but doesn’t compare two very important considerations between these two. C1 Arle may be the strongest C1 in the game and something many long time players and dolphins would pull. C1 Arle smokes C1 Mauvuika but that was left out for some reason.
@@tyalangan You Arlecchino mains are getting desperate. Did you watch the Floor 12 showcase where Arlecchino has 75% damage buff and still loses? Get over it, Pyro Archon is supposed to be the strongest Pyro DPS, no need to get upset
@@Gennosuke1983 I don’t own Arlecchino Also, he stated he didn’t have time to fully test it. It was a 2 second difference in what he did test. That could have been one dodge for all we know. And again, Mavuika was made for Citlali and Xilonen. It allows her to instantly do max damage which is like 2x damage multiplier (I have to look). That’s like her Arle C1 but the power of friendship! So when these UA-camrs say or show they used “the same team” that doesn’t mean anything when that team boosts Mavuika significantly more than other characters. Just be careful is why I’m here instead of asleep. Hate when people are misled. Especially when money is on the line.
At 10:16 u could have used Arlecchino’s burst too for more dmg and to start her rotation a bit faster in comparison u used Mavuika’s burst 2 times there so it kinda feels not a fair comparison or dps showdown. Also in the beginning u could use Arle’s E to mark Regisvine while it’s shield is up and then break the shield at that point it would have been enough time to get her enhanced Mark and u could have been good to go from there instead of waiting or pre stacking her bol before fight but overall good video thanks
It is kinda silly how busted a c0 Mavuika is Being f2p it almost made me feel like whale level of power One shotting bosses, hitting 2m, 5m. It’s crazy
I never do dmg test so my highest dmg was like 150k but after pulling mavuika she casually hit 500k with half build lol i was surprised 😂 and I'm so happy that now I've both arle and mavuika along with their signature as f2p since i had literally no limited 5* pryo character until arle released
And a mediocore team lmao, I hope there's a good natlan 4* that can replace Kachina. Ororon is for some reason rare, 40 pulls and didn't get him on Chasca banner.
Everyone complaining about Mavuika power creeping Arlecchino need to stop and realize....SHE IS THE PYRO ARCHON! Is this community actually serious with being upset that the PYRO ARCHON is the current strongest pyro dps in the game? This community needs to sit tf down I swear. Imagine being upset that the PYRO ARCHON is too good lmao. And please don't reply with "she needs 5 star support", no she doesnt, many teams have been showcased and even without the most optimal 5 star Natlan supports, Mavuika is a very strong unit. Your arguments are tired, so take your Arlecchino and go home.
If it helps to break the arguments (and remind myself that I have personal reasons to want arlecchino 😭) keep in mind that arlecchino and mavuika still have good synergy together as some speedrunners have shown also the one great thing about powercreep is co op bc u usually get to use the less popular character 🤩 plus seeing mavuika and arle fighting side by side (co op) is SO cool to think about
Genshin Team releases underpower characters Players: Why the fuck do they suck? Genshin Team releases Overpowered characters Also players Players: WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY SO BROKEN!? THEY'RE SO BORING! 😂😂😂
Are u dumb or what Its about the gap Mauvika set new standards for the powerlvl with the increase of the abyss difficulty Yes arle is fine but older 5* have some real problems clearing the abyss Genshin did the Neuvi thing again A unit without mech which just press 2 buttons powercreep everyone else Genshin is so hyper Casual at this point, its just unfair to actually good player
Genshin : When they release male characters Players : Skippable! Finally can save my primos Genshin : Releasing waifu Players : where's the male characters? Gen is a gooner game. 😂😂😂 Reme eula? Everyone want her rerun but no one pull for her. People just say it based on trend lol
I lucked out on Mavuika's banner, successfully pulling her and A Thousand Blazing Sun. This has never happened before as my luck is usually beyond atrocious.
My biggest problem is most characters that pick my interest as main DPS are pyro. First Hu Tao, then Father and now Mavuika. My account is basically variations of pyro dps. Pyro slimes are my nemesis i tell ya.
Man, I'm so glad I main Wriothesley and Yoimiya. Arlecchino, Hu Tao, and Mavuika mains are at each other's throat debating who's better and who can clear abyss faster when we're just receiving the same amount of primos for clearing the Spiral Abyss, regardless of who's faster or not. Meanwhile, my mains are stuck in the Fortress of Meropide and making fireworks. 😂😂
This community is hellbent on fighting for their gambling addictions dude. For casuals, I suggest they just play the game and clap abyss. Doesn't matter how you get there, just only that you get there.
@rockerxreal the game is running towards versatility. So maining one unit won't get you far into abyss or that new mode they got. Get a busted unit for each element that synergizes with multiple supports. Futureproof yourself from powercreep and save money.
@@banjoowo4001 It didnt make any sense to not make pyro archon strongest Dps when in story we got her 5 cutscenes and in all of those she faught with enemies way stronger than knave.
@@banjoowo4001 What natlan powercreep is there except mavuika and general exploration abilities? Chasca unique so she didn't powercreep anyone. Mualani didn't powercreep neuv. kinich didn't powercreep alhaitham. Now let's take a look at fontaine power creep (Arle>Lyney hutao. Neuv>ayato. Wrio>ganyu) but none of you said shit of course
@MiraculersEditz And it makes sense to make Furina, the girl who literally could not even make a single drop of water move until her story quest, the strongest hydro character in the game? Oh and how about the strongest homunculus in the game being weaker than a literal tailor? How about a random funeral pyre director being stronger than all of: her own archon, two adepti that released w her that fought in a war, and a literal former Favonius knight? Don't bring lore into this when Hoyo definitely doesn't care lol Traveller is also supposed to be very strong (putting up a better fight against Arle than Lyney, Lynnette, and Frem combined), but guess what, Lyney is stronger in gameplay lol
Ngl I was thinking of switching to arle on her banner but I lost 50/50 and didn't had enough primos to get her cause I had taken a break from game. Now I had a lot of wishes saved up so I just went all in and got c2r1 Mavuika. I still have 120 primos left but it doesn't seem worth to pull another pyro dps. In my opinion both are great pyro dps, if I didn't had a c2r1 Hutao I might have gone for Arle.
if i had a gold bar for every time Mavuika is pronounced with emphasis on the V I'd buy out the whole company and still have a safe overflowing with them
Gotta love when people argue about clearing a few seconds faster and somehow that makes the older character completely obsolete and powercrept... Like dude it doesn't matter play what you like. The point of the video should be that both are insanely strong and capable of clearing whatever the game throws at you.... And yeah great showcases as always
As much as I agree with that stance, I also preferred it in this specific case cuz arlech mains/wanters were really trashing mavuika for quite some time now. The "she needs xilonen and citlali to even work" kinda arguments were getting out of hand and mav was getting unfair treatment. This kind of content becomes necessary.
@@dalwindersingh4564 yeah it does get annoying when people trash a character you like. I actually use both of them on separate teams to clear abyss, and that makes the whole argument of who is better just hilarious to me.
You should've included Hu Tao ...before anyone bathes me with salt, i know she's lowest now, but it'd be cool just to see how far is she and if she's still can be used up to some investment in case anyone prefers our lovely Funeral Parlor director.
realistically you could have used arle's e to mark bol on the regisvine while it's shield is still up, instead of literally starting at 0 bol the moment you break the regisvine they introduced bol in 4.0 only to neglect it til 4.6 🤣
I'll be honest...it's regisvine damage test on regisvine legit don't matter, and they proceed to actually mark the actual harder enemies later so doesn't super matter in the long run
The only showcases that matters is Abyss and Mavuika still clears by far. There's no need to remain stuck on the first pointless showcase where Arlecchino had a chance because
DPS output peaked with Mavuika and Citlali era. Not just because of Mavuika's high burst damage but also the speed which it can be abused with Xilonen without relying on ER. I havent seen a DPS like this in the past 4 years who not only possess a destructive firepower but also equipped with insane speed to deliver the highest amount of dmg over the shortest time. Like wtf did hoyo cook😂 As a Nirvana Retainer in Hi3 and also a Genshin speedrunner this is so peak. I love the motor cycle so much. Its so Honkai coded gameplay (im looking at you bronya)❤
U can also start a rotation with arle charge attack to get her bol from her weapon passive. If ur not doing that u might as well compare her using jade wing spear cuz in that case its no difference
@ hmm that can be yeah i thought u just didn’t try. In this current abyss i have more succes using that ca pre skill cast cuz i can just barely finish the new boss in 2 rotations if i do that
i think the Tradeoff for Mavu insane damage is the fact that he need a Natlan Character (Please note that this is not a bad thing) to become Significantly well, therefore might let a little more Team Comp than Arlecchino which is not really a Region Locked Character, and from what i see its just that Mavu Rn has like 2 Insane Support (Citlali Xilonen) for her Team (Which is Really Premium) and the most insane part is them being Natlan Even Buff Mavu More for the Fighting Spirit (I Might just re telling the last point lol) but imo The Powercreep is not that big, sure these things happen but as long as the Enemy HP Aint like 2 Times Stronger Now, then its not really a problem. (Next Abyss seems to have 375% HP Multiplier but the enemy is like Random Ahhhh Overworld Mob so like, LOL)
@@yujin-1907 Neah, Abyss is also increasing in difficulty, we just don't notice it because we have many strong characters. A long time ago, we would get one boss maybe in one half and you were supposed to clear the non-boss half within 1m or so and use the remaining 2 minutes for the boss half. Now, with the latest Abyss we have bosses on both halves and not only that, they have a wave of enemies before the boss like the small green dinosaurs before the fat one and the small geovishaps before the boss. Not to mention all enemies and bosses get increased HP every 2-3 patches or so. I invested 2 years of wishing into Raiden to get her to C6 as a F2P and now random nonames Mualani or Kinich just stomp her at C0
@@Gennosuke1983 the differences were only a couple seconds and all showcases had over 3minutes left for the other side to complete. arlecchino being powercrept doesn't mean much when she herself already clears it just as fast. its the equivalent to complaining a character that already 0 cycles moc got powercrepts by a new character that can 0 cycle moc.
@@Gennosuke1983oh, I noticed it. The abyss has been getting very obviously more difficult. And that's a real problem because you are FORCED to pull for newer characters and abandon your older ones. At this point, is it worth it pulling anymore if in two or three patches you can't use your favorite characters anymore? As a veteran player who has been playing since launch, I think I will finally abandon Genshin
people overestimate the buff from current first half abyss. in the past when you had only like 50-70%elemental dmg in total (goblet + maybe something else) , of course having an elemental goblet had significant value... but currently arle has following elem dmg bonuses: 40 from passive, 56 from artifact set, 40 from cinder city, 46 from goblet, 15 from bennet c6 and 36 from her signature weapon...so in total you already have 233 elemental dmg bonus and suffer from diminishing returns (and it could be even more if counting archaic petra on xilonen, xilonen signature and citlali signature). personally i have citlali signature but only gladiator set. and found out that at least in current abyss with ATK goblet my arlecchino does almost 10% more dmg. it may be the case that even without current abyss buff atk goblet on arlecchino could be better... i'm just lasy to test it in overworld my atk goblet just has 1 roll more in crit rate so it should not be worst than pyro goblet anyway.
She can take the dub as the best affordable pyro dos tho, she might not be better than Mavuika for new AR players in openworld bc of her BoL mechanic but she wrecks endgame content effortlessly. In the exception for Natlan's weekly boss atl
She can take the dub as the best affordable pyro dos tho, she might not be better than Mavuika for new AR players in openworld bc of her BoL mechanic but she wrecks endgame content effortlessly. In the exception for Natlan's weekly boss atl
@@DragonoftheDarknessFlameI don't know what people crying over Arlecchino and Lyney when both of them already powercrept Hu Tao, Yoimiya, Klee and Diluc 💀💀💀
I was initially planning to C2 Mavuika but after seeing how much damage she already does at C0R1 I decided not to because there's no point in doing so anymore. She already does so much damage for the current content. I'd rather C2 someone like Furina who is able to increase the power level of so many other teams.
I mean it is to be expected that Arle will be powercrept at some point, and Im glad it's the Pyro Archon, like Mavuika gets so many useless nitpicked hate at this point that at least her numbers are undeniable!! 😅
I think the hate is fair I was so hyped for cool units in natlan but they are all goofy and this game feels not longer like a fanatsy Game Arlecchino has a better story, looks way better, has a lot more mech, and is high fantasy Natlan is so dissapointing 🥲
I feel like as it stands the powercreep between the 2 is there but come the release of further cryo or hydro supports after we leave natlan it is possible that the gap could be bridged as we will move on from the nightsoul mechanics. I personally love using both characters and look forward to what we see in the future
Nope. Mavuika can drop all except xilonen or citlali for upgrades. Hoyo also probably isnt powercreeping xilonen sonit be citlali being replaced by cryo archon or bennett by some universal buffer. Arle would need some really targeted support to run a different team from mavuika.
It's funny how people just don't like Mavuika and try to cope like arle isn't one of the best characters in the games two , but like y'all know mavuika is just better right ?
Arle copers: Mavuika isn't a consistent DPS. Reality: Mavuika's clears faster than arle even with lower level talents. Arle copers: Okay but she is unplayable with F2P supports. Reality: Mavuika still clears faster with F2P supports. Arle copers: Anyway Arle is still better than Mavuika in Abyss. Reality: Arle lost to Mavuika in an abyss which is specifically designed for Arle. Conclusion according to Arle copers: Arle is the best dps and Mavuika is Trash 😂 I feel bad for them. All of their argument has been proved wrong and the only thing they have left now is some high quality copium 😢
Personally I prefer Mavuika as a Mavuika main but she just have more frontload. On a single boss, Mavuika is better, but on longer fights, Arle is just better than Mavuika
@@mxrshiiethis is completely wrong The logic "frontload is better in short fights and sustained is better in longer fights" generalizes something that cant be generalized i.e : damage and rotation length [i wouldnt go into detail but it should be quite clear] Mavuika and arlecchino have 18-20 sec DPS rotation, there is no doubt that mavuika does more damage and more DPR than arlecchino [mavuika is the only DPS who can hit a 2M DPR at c0] which makes it impossible for arlecchino to keep up since they both have the same rotation length, if mavuika's damage was untouched but she had a 30 sec rotation, arlecchino with 18 sec should be able to beat mavuika but thats not the case, they both have the same rotation length and you can try this in the new event with max difficulty, arlecchino wouldnt beat the boss faster than mavuika at all times
@@mxrshiie In the multi wave scenario, you would be right if Mavuika was a single target DPS. But that's not the case. Both her burst and CAs have large AOE. She can hit most enemies while Arle can't. My level 1-8-10 Mavuika's CA's hit 300k+ when melted. Now imagine the whole group getting hit by this. With double cryo teams you can melt 5 CAs if you do a specific combo. People say she is a front load but they don't mention that those melted CAs almost equals her burst damage. I don't hate Arle or anything, I even would be pulling for her in next banner because her attacks look cool. But a fact is a fact. Even in multi wave Mavuika is faster due to the AOE and those CAs.
Bruhh, I don’t even have C6R5 Xilonen but my arle c0r1 deals over 400k when her NA melts and 200k when doesn’t melt. 2NA como where u do 3NA dash 2 NA deals over 1.2m dmg and takes close time to Mavuika’s burst. Also Arle having 10/10/10 talents do not add that kind of a buff cause u just used normal attacks but Arle having less atk, less em and 65% less crit dmg changes a lot xd. Also why vape not melt team???
Finally someone with sense, ngl bro i've been fighting some player waay before Mavuika release, i said that Mailed Flower with EM stats is not fair against Arlecchino's weapon, even in this video Arlecchino has no elemental mastery at all and he tested them in elemental reaction WTF. I guess money can't buy them simple knowledge 🤷
@@adilfadhilah4334 You are just guessing things , these are by far best speedruns availbale rn. You can make and upload on internet if you think its not best. I know its not fair but it is Bis right?
@@MiraculersEditz I'm not guessing, Hoyo literally wrote full paragraph in the character details (i) explaining how important elemental mastery is to increase damage output in elemental reaction, also in this video one using forward melt and the other is reverse vape.
Its sad to say but mavuika in her best in slot team is quit a bit stronger than any other dps in the game. I have mavuika c0r1 and also c1r1 arlechino both build pretty well. When using them in the abyss or against natlan local legends i found that most of the time mavuika barely wins BUT i’m comparing a c1 against a c0 so the fact that mavuika is sometimes outperforming arle at all is already crazy. Thats not even mentioning her qol like being able to heal, infinite interupt resistance and the option to go for a support playstyle.
Bro i dont know what you are talking about but i have c1r1 arle and cor1 mauvika and when they both are in their best teams Mauvika still claps arle and its not even close like whooping 15% or more dmg difference
@bgbq8591 i mean no dps can compete against c2 mavuika until c6.... Just imagine if she wasn't nerfed in the beta her c2 would've outdone every dps at c6 back then
I’m getting C1 R1 Arlecchino, and waiting to get C? R1 Mavuika when she re runs. I’ve decided to not get C2 R1 Arlecchino because Furina is having her re-run, and I skipped on her previous re-run (huge mistake I know). I’m extremely excited to have Arlecchino home, I adore her play style and her personality makes it all the better. 🔥
Arle is still incredibly strong, especially with the self-healing, but it's just hard to beat Mav's overtuned nuke. They could've balanced it out by making her charged attack scalings lower but considering she's getting massive hate because people were disappointed with her kit then I guess making her the strongest DPS in the game is to soften the blow lmao. I just hope these crazy numbers is the limit and not just another thing to take over by other future units. I remember being so happy when my Mona nuked a 200k damage by screenshot vape in the early days and now it's more consistent to do so.
The funny thing is, she was nerfed not long before they gave content creators early Access, I actually thought she will go live with her previous numbers and oh boy she was overtuned even more than now
Self healing is her weakness to be honest, because she can't be healed so you have to waste time dodging to maintain your HP before the next Burst. Every Pyro DPS is played with Bennett anyway, so self healing is not needed. You just want to spam your attacks in Bennett circle without worrying about your HP, which you can't do with Arlecchino
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“I took 13 seconds to clear”
“Oh what 13 seconds per chamber is kinda in-“
“13 seconds to clear the whole floor”
The silence is _deafening_ 💀
Too bad that’s all your life amounts to, total waste of bragging rights.
@@tropicthndr jealousy isn't a good look.
@ please let people spend their money on the things that they like
@@tropicthndr 😑😑😑
Is this how the Hu Tao/Lyney mains felt after Arlecchino got released ?
a bit different. Hu tao mains enjoyed being top pyro dps far longer from v.1.3-4.X while arlecchino v.4.6-5.3. i think that's where the salt is coming from. she didn't even last on top before her 1st re-run since the power creep came so fast.
At least hu tao lasted longer at the top than copechino.
@@sa7le17m3 "my gambling addiction lasted longer than your gambling addiction"
@@sa7le17m3and hutao plunge is still on par or just a bit better than arle for single target only. In aoe see can't
Arlechinno didn’t even outpace hutao this badly in their showdown
Last time I was this early Venti was still the strongest anemo character
my man was here before sucrose
kid named sucrose:
so basically never
the only mid archon: venti😂
@@jeremy8316 sucrose was not better than Venti in the older patches.
great video! man the c0r1 numbers are pretty nuts 😭
Great runs man! also are you planning on testing SSoS on Arle to see if it can one shot the primo Geovishap before he can get up?
Freaking Legend!
Goat himself
Yoo he is here!!🎉
Dhc goat
I'm an Arlecchino main so don't get me wrong, but it would be weird if the Pyro Archon wasn't the most powerful pyro character. Father is close enough that I'm happy though.
Bennett
@@Badieonas a dps obviously. If she was going to be a dps then she better release at the top
It's not much of a debate, mavuika shits on arle no offense
@@Moroha-m i can bet you lost your 50/50 on arle banner but won on mavuika banner🤭
Makes sense. Still I wish Mavuika was a support though
“My beautiful queen Arlecchino solos.. My beautiful queen Arlecchino solos..” I mutter rocking back and forth in my straight jacket as they drag me off to my padded cell.
Hahaha
Lol
She solos in our hearts
This is gold
She solos in certain things so it’s okay.
How does Mavuika still clears faster than Arle even with 75% NA dmg bonus...Hoyo have created a monster.
Plus arle talents were double crowned and mav 6,9 😂
And some coping arle fans will still say she's better or even at the same level as mavuika lol.
The other buff is 75% nightsoul dmg increase & all of Mavuika's dmg is nightsoul dmg...
@@AmeerThePr1ncebut that buff is in the second half of The abyss
@@AmeerThePr1nce Mavuika doesnt get the buff.. Nighsoul dmg buff is for 2nd half
I know that this sounds annoying but...
Pyro traveler guide when?
1st of april maybe
Yes please
@@MrMokels they've upgraded from 3 star to 3.5 or maybe 4 star so maybe he will one day, probably lol.
doesnt even need a guide.
the character is just literally a cinder city artifact user.
sac sword
just stack er and crit, or go full em for overload, burgeon teams.
done.
29th February 2025
Arlecchino could toss My salad in 2.1 seconds.
AYOO
Mavuika would still do it better lol with added utilities
Pause
@@banjoowo4001evidence?
@@banjoowo4001people can’t even take a joke 😂😂
Meanwhile Chasca seems to be the best against flying and shielded enemies. I am using Mavuika as an off field / sub dps, she really boosts ganyu's damage and helps even with chasca too. Its fun using Mavuika and Ororon together for the overload pyro application.
Chasca is my go to with this Natlan shield enemies and Papilla. She just shreds them
Try burn build 🫡
1.12 million on a Geovishap that hasn't got up is crazy. 21:22
Its resictance was alrady down at that time, it doesnt have to fully get up, if u start mavuikas rotation when you start the abyss timer her burst hits right after the boss drops its resictance
@redsky397no, his resistence was still up. If it was down, the damage would be like 6-7kk. IWin even said that Mav was able to 1kk shot primo geo with his res up
@redsky397If it's resistance was down, it would've gotten 1 shot
@@Mikaela_77 hmm, seems about right, against next boss it did way more indeed. My mistake i guess. But thats indeed crazy hitting over a million with resistance still up.
@redsky397 yeah, shes just too much. Perfectly balanced just as we wanted her to be
For those wondering "who should i get mavuika or arlecchino?" I'd say just pull for whoever you like more while mavuika is undoubtedly stronger that doesn't mean arlecchino is weak at all it all comes down to who you like more here
Mavuika need expensive support, definitely
@@Bulbasaurrrr-uo8oeif you watched the video
You’d notice she beat out Arle with Xingqui, Bennett and sucrose
By simply using Kachina, Benett and Sucrose
@@bamshakfwangyil1452 If you watched the video, you'll see their f2p Mavuika used Kachina, bennett, and Rosaria.
Aka, a MELT team. In contrast to Arlecchino who was played in a vape team, which deals significantly LESS damage then melt.
Was kind of unfair scenario to compare them with, ngl.
@@blazingdragonwolf6771arlecchino would still perform worse with the melt team, and the unfair thing is that xq sucrose are just way better char than kachina rozaria. You're not accounting for mavuika lower talent lvl either.
Arle melt only some NA, iwtl put better team for Arle but she still loose against mavuika (and her talent are 6/6/9 btw)
I've been playing genshin for around 2 years now. Arlecchino helped me hit 100k damage for the first time with a leftover gladiator set I forgot about 4 star supports.
mavuika does a causal 100k per na or ca and a million upon burst, talk about powercreep
@@juan.argueta My Mavuika does 100k donuts and 750k ults. She's nuts
@ she is nuts😶🌫
100k is what my furina deals with her crab lmao
@@jonnevitu4979 cracked out artifacts I presume?
Btw the upgrade between talent 9 mauvika to talent 10 mauvika was about a 56,411k for me, thanks to that now I manage to hit 1m comfortably.
The proplme is the damage difference from skill level 6 into 10 is big its like 140% ca valu into 195%ca valu its huge difference
@@chakib7781 I wonder if leveling up her skill would be as drastically as leveling her ult from 9 to 10, like I was spectating maybe a 25k increase but the moment I hit a 1m my jaw dropped because it was literally a 56k increase, she is hitting like 288k charged or something like that so leveling up her skill will make her hit 300k but I wonder if I will hit 400k because right now her skill is at lvl 6 and if her skill increase is similar to her ult then mauvika is actually busted.
@@militarfuturi1940 i assume that at lev 10 it will be 350k ...
Get a life bro
@@takuyamishima8how tf is playing a video game in his free time ruining that?
Tbh, as an Arlecchino main and lover, I'm not upset at all that Mavuika is stronger. It was obvious Arle wasn't going to be at the top forever. I'm still going to go for Arlecchino coms instead of getting Mavuika, just because I like Arlecchino more.
This is such a good response! Arle is more than strong enough to carry herself in basically all content no need to worry about meta or power creep
@@vlife6538same! I'm also gonna pull for Arle just cuz I love her so much!!!
I'm also saving for her cons so I didn't pull for Mauvika
Yep if you have arle no need for mauvika, yes she is good but is it worth it to bench Arle i dont think so if you have infinite promos then anything is good but as primos hard to come by let's not waste our primos by just blindly following meta.
Thank god i skipped arle first banner@@mr_pika
14:28 no one gonna talk about the half a million Bennet ult? 😅
The real pyro archon 🔥
not that surprising if you ever built him for damage; he Melted + other team buffs + (I don't think most people realize this) his Atk buff applies to his own burst as he is casting it + his burst cast has a very solid 495% Atk multiplier at talent level 13.
Bennett's shoulders have been heavy for years and be like "Time for the next Archon to take the torch.
Wait until his next character quest we find he gives up his gnosis and is sipping Osmanthus wine with Zhongli.
13:18 i have read and do understand the disclaimers but, i thought i would mention this so that the viewers and potentially mr. iwintolose who own arlecchino's signature can use its passive(IF u didnt know this trick yet) in this melt team
you can start out the rotation by doing a charged attack to get the passive then quickly press E and goto supports and do the rotation as normal and u can cancel her CA when u get back to her.
Oh damn I didnt think of that. Will be using this trick in my own runs lol, thanks
Yeah. The biggest difference I see between Mavuika and Arle here is that Mavuika is a Melt Nuke, which means she's faster for anything that wouldn't survive anyways.
@@infrnlmssh9719Lol Mav literally wins against Arle in SOLO RUNS without precasting y'all acting like she only does damage on melt
@S3tsuna1 Care to show me these runs??? Because I can only find the solo runs at C6 and at C0 she NEEDS melt and Natlan.
And at C6 is pretty even.
@@infrnlmssh9719 Did you even watch video? Dude it's literally on the vid "SOLO DAMAGE" showcase
I forgot who that content creator is but I saw him comparing C0R1 Mavuika to C2R1 Arlecchino vs. the Raiden Shogun Weekly Boss.
Arlecchino finished the challenge by 3-5 seconds faster than Mavuika.
But you know what's the catch?
The C0R1 Mavuika is at 1-1-1 Talents while the C2R1 Arlecchino is at 10-9-6 😭😭😭
The video u saw comparing c0 mevuika and c2 arlecchino, I was the one who asked for that. Altho I asked for c1 arlecchino vs c0 mevuika. But man the powercreep is real . And we saw on this video that mevuika having more nuke dmg potential and higher dmg ceiling , the clear time was like 10-12s difference before the new abyss at c0. So I think if arlecchino gets a good support character just like citalali for mevuika , I think arlecchino and mevuika will be similar.
Still neuvilet is best for f2p investment
@oyasimakram6080 Oh really that was you who asked that? Pretty cool to see you here, haha!
I'm a 1.0 Player and I'm quite scared that they scaled Mavuika's Nuke damage so much that we will have an HP Inflation in the future. I hope they don't pull an HSR HP Inflation type of move in Genshin.
Mavuika dropping and being the one of, if not the best nuke damage dealer in the game says alot for the future of the game and its endgame.
Bruh she is far from the best nuker@@MisterHabadu
@quint2568 me when I lie.
@@quint2568 Mavuika is undeniably the best nuker, frontloaded damage dealer, and dps in the game now.
What i don't like is that haters try to discourage people from pulling Mavuika by saying that she is not f2p friendly. From her f2p performance i'd say she is very f2p friendly and i would really encourage new players to get her if they want an easier time with the game. It's fine if you want to support your favorite character but no need to put down other characters and spread hate.
Totally agree, the negativity and hate is so real on many other social networks, that simps don't have guts to take L peacefully but to spread false information blatantly about Mavuika without getting their facts right.
I totally smell the same toxicity as Hu Tao mains had when Arlecchino powercrept her.
"Impressive feat, but feet can't match the speed of a motorcycle"
🔥🔥🔥✍
like a lot of other showcases, the conclusion is: it doesn't matter, they're both really strong, go and have fun
glad you're back to making showdown videos again, id really appreciate it if you could do one comparing navia and itto hypercarry. thanks
On top of all this, Mav has a very competent sub-DPS role. When combined with these main DPS numbers, her pull value just seems insane to me.
As someone who has both of them, tbh yes Mavuika is definitely stronger and nukes a lot, but NOT by a lot. But the thing is Mavuika needs a 5 star Natlan character to use her at her full potential. My Arlecchino on the other hand, gives slightly less damage with literally under-levelled 4 star supports and not to mention, there are a LOT of different teams that she can go with. So go for Mavuika if you want an amazing dps with cool exploration skills, bt do consider her fighting spirit req. Nd go for Arle if you want a good f2p dps who can work even with 4 star supports.
Mavuika truly is the powercreep archon
I uninstalled the game lol
@@virtuoustreaty2656 did you also uninstall when Neuvillette made Ayato look like a 3 star?
@@cat-em3mj I don't have Ayato but I should have uninstalled long ago
Pyro traveler is my meta defining pyro main dps cause he is my very first. Been waiting for this before Fontaine and I am very satisfied with him
i find it interesting that the top 3 pyro dps, Hu Tao, Arlecchino and Mavuika all have something to do with 'death' when obtaining their powers
Edit: oh wow you guys completely missed what i wanted to say, i just wanted to say an interesting fact on the way they get their powers im not stating which is which is better 💀. So what is wrong with Hutao,Arlecchino and Mavuika being my top 3? in the end, these characters never changed and will always be strong.
The top 3 Pyro DPS right now is mauvika,arcchelino, and C6 gaming thanx to citlali. You can check the numbers to be sure
Hu Tao? in the top 3 pyro dps? sorry man but lyney is the one who deserves being called a top 3 pyro dps
@@BSKOTH47 lyney is ass and clunky to play.
@@BSKOTH47 Nah, Gaming solos that random
@@j4yforces isn't hu tao also ass to play nowadays lol her damage is so bad id rather play lyney cuz at least he does damage and doesn't need jump cancels
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These 2 characters compared to the rest are off the charts
Finelly, i been waiting for this specific showdown for so long and also asked on many of his videos and its finally here thank you 😁🙏🏻❤
"Mavuika is only good with citlali or Xilonen" and here she's dominating Arlecchino with a Kachina
Said by every Arle mains and then get dominated by a Kachina when their Arle is using a C6 Sucrose and a C6 XQ LMAO. There's literally no res shredder in that Mav F2P team and they still clear faster 😂
@@S3tsuna1 also talents were 6,9 poor arle
@@S3tsuna1+75% NA damage from Abyss favoring Arle 😂
Edit: The f2p showcase was actually done on 5.2 Abyss. C0R1 showcase was done on current Abyss where the 75% NA bonus applies.
@@Potitotitoreally bro i mean what is wrong with powercreep in gacha games
People should let it go rather than defending😅
@@Potitotito thats in the current abyss. previous abyss didn't have that
Actually in abyss its very practical to have 200 BOL after 1 wave of enemies
Especially if you can kill those 3 mini saurisns and get bol from all 3
Mavuika is indeed probably the strongest dps in game rn, but it doesn't mean arlecc is weak. Based on my experience arlecc has:
- more flexible damage window and faster damage delivery (good against bosses like iniquitous babtist or high mobility elites), I feel mavuika on field teams plays like raiden hypercarry
- also better survivability rate than mavu thanks to self heal and resistance increase), coz you know, the anxiety of getting hit when doing donuts on mavu exists against hard hitting boss when citlali's shield is gone 😂
So arlecc mains, keep ur chin up. While mavu beat arlecc damage but arlecc is still a pretty good unit to have. I have 2 pyro teams now because of mavuika
Wdym better survivability? Mav has infinite interruption resistance you only just need bennett and she's not gonna die LMAO
@S3tsuna1 you clearly haven't experienced wut I mean "hard hitting" that bennett circle has no chance against it. Tho most of the times, sure bro
@@cuszh Most of the time Mavuika going circles helps her dodge attacks and Yeah I've never experience getting one-shotted playing her. Plus I'll be more anxious getting hit playing Arle than Mavuika without shield 🤣
@@S3tsuna1idk man but I've heard a few compliants that their Mavuika died in a few hits. Heck Mavuika died when I was trying her in the trial TWICE 💀
as someone has both at C6, im sad for Arle but i can say this if there is a support specialist of BOL, Arle can make a huge difference
Both at C6 bro mavuika looks so clunky 😂
@AlphaAbyss_ extra money, so why not 🤣
@@zerefx1429 you got a house?
@@zerefx1429 I just find that so polarising I played gachas for basically 10 years and I have never spent on a single one
@AlphaAbyss_ you're good but for me i spend some money for fun
There's powercreep in every live service game, now whether it's a bad thing or a nothing burger depends on if you can still clear end-game content with older units. And for Genshin the answer is yes you can. It's always been pull for convenience of having shorter combat times and lower investments. Obviously if you're pure F2P you'll need to have high investments on your units if they are not the current meta units. INVESTMENT IS KEY
C0R1 Mavuika at talent 10 with some very lucky artifact rolls, I was shocked when I hit 1.5 million burst on a boss testing her out. She’s just buuussssssted lmao
It's impossible to have her at talent 10 at the moment. You can't have enough weekly boss loot.
@ Burst level 10, if you put two and two together to what I meant
@@Multimonata I got her burst crowned this week
@@Multimonata i got her talent 10
Today the weekly boss stuff reset, I just crowned my ult today
Awesome video, thank you so much!!
I would call this a little powercreep
Novi vs ayato💀💀💀💀
Ya tru
@chakib ayato wasn't even good to begin with
@banjoowo4001 compared to ayato there's virtually not much difference
Maviuka’s talent is not even crowned
at this point all that matters is the plsystyle you like more because although slower, arlecchino damage is still more than enough
edit: Mavuika simps are toxic asf and Arlecchino simps are coping real hard, its honestly hard to watch lmao, what makes you think i even have arlecchino
Exactly. And doing donuts with a motrocycle in a fantasy game is not exactly my style xD
Lmao love how you guys are coping with "more than enough" , just wait when mavuika gets powercreeped, then the gap arlechino will become straight up 💩
@@lefterismplanas4977i would agree with you but she makes travel 10 times easier. Plus there not much to the gameplay in genshin anyway. Just basic rotations.
@robertlaidlaw4592 I mean... the easy solution to the immersion breaking character kits would've been to give each character belonging to the *NATION OF DRAGONS* their own dragon, but maybe that's just me.
I mean... would it have been cooler if mavuika was riding a dragon? If Chaska was balancing ontop of a Ququsaur and loading multiple arrows into her bow?
No? Just me? Ok
@banjoowo4001, if arlechino ever gets seen as 'bad' the game would be borderline unplayable since like half of the roster would literally be unusable
Mavuika mains: "Arlecchino is bad, Mavuika is better"
Arlecchino mains: "Mavuika is locked to Natlan supports, she's so bad"
Me who has both: "I just keep on winning XD"
Go ahead and continue to fight, I'll be watching with a popcorn at hand clearing with Arlecchino on one side and Mavuika on the other XD
Even though I don't like Arlecchino. They both good by the end of the day. That if you only thinking about fighting enemy only. Nothing else.
same lol
I kinda wish there had been time for Hu Tao and Lyney too, but I get that these videos take a while to make.
Then again, you did spare me from watching my strongest DPS get annihilated in the solo and C6 categories. Though I think she would still hold her own in the C0R1 best in slot team part of the video.
First thanks for doing this video
But I think you should've added C2R1 as it's a dolphin level of investment
It’s weird that he’s doing a comparison but doesn’t compare two very important considerations between these two. C1 Arle may be the strongest C1 in the game and something many long time players and dolphins would pull. C1 Arle smokes C1 Mauvuika but that was left out for some reason.
@@tyalangan You Arlecchino mains are getting desperate. Did you watch the Floor 12 showcase where Arlecchino has 75% damage buff and still loses? Get over it, Pyro Archon is supposed to be the strongest Pyro DPS, no need to get upset
@@Gennosuke1983 I don’t own Arlecchino
Also, he stated he didn’t have time to fully test it. It was a 2 second difference in what he did test. That could have been one dodge for all we know. And again, Mavuika was made for Citlali and Xilonen. It allows her to instantly do max damage which is like 2x damage multiplier (I have to look). That’s like her Arle C1 but the power of friendship! So when these UA-camrs say or show they used “the same team” that doesn’t mean anything when that team boosts Mavuika significantly more than other characters. Just be careful is why I’m here instead of asleep. Hate when people are misled. Especially when money is on the line.
@@Gennosuke1983facts, they can't let go of their hyperinvested Arlecchino hypercarry premium team
@@tyalangan Bro just doing some showcase that the vote does, there's nothing weird about it. Don't grieve please
I was waiting for this
Hu Tao was the strongest pyro dps from her release to 4.6 after almost 2 years. Arlecchino lasted not even until a rerun 💀.
Between ganyu and ayaka only 6 month
But you kinda right
Also ayato was victim with nevvilt
Wonderer with chaska
Arle is fine compere to others
There wasn't much problem with ganyu tho,since she was mostly used in melt teams and ayaka was the freeze queen.
Wanderer wasnt powercrept by Chaska but by Xiaos meta team with Xianyun and Furina @chakib7781
That's why her fans are mad and still coping lol , but let them cry , their tears are my favourite drink.
@@sa7le17m3 this is a videogame bro
Great comparison ❤ , pls do more
At 10:16 u could have used Arlecchino’s burst too for more dmg and to start her rotation a bit faster in comparison u used Mavuika’s burst 2 times there so it kinda feels not a fair comparison or dps showdown. Also in the beginning u could use Arle’s E to mark Regisvine while it’s shield is up and then break the shield at that point it would have been enough time to get her enhanced Mark and u could have been good to go from there instead of waiting or pre stacking her bol before fight but overall good video thanks
Doesn't really matter cause she still get clapped in Abyss showcases. Her matching Mavuika in Regisvine showcases won't make her win the argument
It is worse because of animation time and burst does not deal much damage
Just another salty arlecchino main crying
You finally made a video addressing this issue 🎉
It is kinda silly how busted a c0 Mavuika is
Being f2p it almost made me feel like whale level of power
One shotting bosses, hitting 2m, 5m. It’s crazy
Although the rotations in abyss were questionable to say the least on Arle, pretty good comparison vid
I'd be very interested to see a comparison of the two in strong multiwave content
Mavuika will win
Arlchino is not bad but mavuika multu is 2ed best after Nevillet its over for her
Mavuika is better at literally everything and it's not even close.
That's not even hard to answer since Mavuika has a better AoE
@@chakib7781 Lol ppl still Neuvillette is the best.
I never do dmg test so my highest dmg was like 150k but after pulling mavuika she casually hit 500k with half build lol i was surprised 😂 and I'm so happy that now I've both arle and mavuika along with their signature as f2p since i had literally no limited 5* pryo character until arle released
20:14
--> chamber had waves
---> also had 75% na dmg bonus
Mav still beats her even.with an uncrowned burst lmfao
And a mediocore team lmao, I hope there's a good natlan 4* that can replace Kachina. Ororon is for some reason rare, 40 pulls and didn't get him on Chasca banner.
A good show case, i think for melt the n3 cancel for arlecchino is very important, but as you said not everything is perfect
Mavuika's Burst animation is actually pretty short lol
It's literally the same
5:56 that ain't single cycle, I counted 5 cycles with her bike :D (sorry for pun)
😂😂😂
I saw the thumbnail and was like, C0 Mavuika vs C6 Arlec??? What in the powercreep :))🐧
Imagine being so cracked that getting compared even before getting maxed talents ...
made a dps showdown of neuvillette, arlecchino AND mavuika PLEASE!!
Yes please😍
Everyone complaining about Mavuika power creeping Arlecchino need to stop and realize....SHE IS THE PYRO ARCHON! Is this community actually serious with being upset that the PYRO ARCHON is the current strongest pyro dps in the game? This community needs to sit tf down I swear. Imagine being upset that the PYRO ARCHON is too good lmao. And please don't reply with "she needs 5 star support", no she doesnt, many teams have been showcased and even without the most optimal 5 star Natlan supports, Mavuika is a very strong unit. Your arguments are tired, so take your Arlecchino and go home.
If it helps to break the arguments (and remind myself that I have personal reasons to want arlecchino 😭) keep in mind that arlecchino and mavuika still have good synergy together as some speedrunners have shown
also the one great thing about powercreep is co op bc u usually get to use the less popular character 🤩
plus seeing mavuika and arle fighting side by side (co op) is SO cool to think about
Genshin Team releases underpower characters
Players: Why the fuck do they suck?
Genshin Team releases Overpowered characters
Also players
Players: WHY THE FUCK ARE THEY SO BROKEN!? THEY'RE SO BORING!
😂😂😂
Are u dumb or what
Its about the gap
Mauvika set new standards for the powerlvl with the increase of the abyss difficulty
Yes arle is fine but older 5* have some real problems clearing the abyss
Genshin did the Neuvi thing again
A unit without mech which just press 2 buttons powercreep everyone else
Genshin is so hyper Casual at this point, its just unfair to actually good player
Genshin : When they release male characters
Players : Skippable! Finally can save my primos
Genshin : Releasing waifu
Players : where's the male characters? Gen is a gooner game.
😂😂😂
Reme eula? Everyone want her rerun but no one pull for her. People just say it based on trend lol
maybe, just maybe they should release *balanced* characters and not op or trash? xD
@@volodyan7780And how does one define that character
@ simply have dps ceiling of current dps with some quirks that make their gameplay fells new mualani and clorinde are good examples of that
I lucked out on Mavuika's banner, successfully pulling her and A Thousand Blazing Sun. This has never happened before as my luck is usually beyond atrocious.
Most friendly comments genshin players are capable of
My biggest problem is most characters that pick my interest as main DPS are pyro. First Hu Tao, then Father and now Mavuika. My account is basically variations of pyro dps. Pyro slimes are my nemesis i tell ya.
Man, I'm so glad I main Wriothesley and Yoimiya. Arlecchino, Hu Tao, and Mavuika mains are at each other's throat debating who's better and who can clear abyss faster when we're just receiving the same amount of primos for clearing the Spiral Abyss, regardless of who's faster or not. Meanwhile, my mains are stuck in the Fortress of Meropide and making fireworks. 😂😂
These comments are so funny lmao. ‘I’m happy I play bad characters because no one cares enough to talk about how dogshit my character is’ 😊
Really (I don't know who to main) we just sit back legs up and eat popcorn while they fight
This community is hellbent on fighting for their gambling addictions dude. For casuals, I suggest they just play the game and clap abyss. Doesn't matter how you get there, just only that you get there.
@rockerxreal the game is running towards versatility. So maining one unit won't get you far into abyss or that new mode they got. Get a busted unit for each element that synergizes with multiple supports. Futureproof yourself from powercreep and save money.
@@lmaonade. casuals don’t talk about meta lol this guy isn’t a casual
Mavuika's front loaded dmg is just absurd
Like its sooooooo huge and ontop of that her charged atks are also insane
its kind of funny that hu tao was best pyro dps(after xiangling) for 3 regions while arle lasted 4 patches
Xiangling is Best sub dps, So Hu Tao simply was the best pyro dps, not after Xiangling
Mihoyo doesn't care about mains anymore, they tested powercreep with honkai and saw it was profitable, so now they are implementing that in genshin
@@banjoowo4001 It didnt make any sense to not make pyro archon strongest Dps when in story we got her 5 cutscenes and in all of those she faught with enemies way stronger than knave.
@@banjoowo4001 What natlan powercreep is there except mavuika and general exploration abilities? Chasca unique so she didn't powercreep anyone. Mualani didn't powercreep neuv. kinich didn't powercreep alhaitham. Now let's take a look at fontaine power creep (Arle>Lyney hutao. Neuv>ayato. Wrio>ganyu) but none of you said shit of course
@MiraculersEditz And it makes sense to make Furina, the girl who literally could not even make a single drop of water move until her story quest, the strongest hydro character in the game?
Oh and how about the strongest homunculus in the game being weaker than a literal tailor?
How about a random funeral pyre director being stronger than all of: her own archon, two adepti that released w her that fought in a war, and a literal former Favonius knight?
Don't bring lore into this when Hoyo definitely doesn't care lol
Traveller is also supposed to be very strong (putting up a better fight against Arle than Lyney, Lynnette, and Frem combined), but guess what, Lyney is stronger in gameplay lol
Ngl I was thinking of switching to arle on her banner but I lost 50/50 and didn't had enough primos to get her cause I had taken a break from game.
Now I had a lot of wishes saved up so I just went all in and got c2r1 Mavuika. I still have 120 primos left but it doesn't seem worth to pull another pyro dps.
In my opinion both are great pyro dps, if I didn't had a c2r1 Hutao I might have gone for Arle.
24:44 so this is the limit?
9999999 damage is insane
if i had a gold bar for every time Mavuika is pronounced with emphasis on the V I'd buy out the whole company and still have a safe overflowing with them
Nice hamster profile😂
Hello! 🤗 Im gonna wish for c6 Furina wish me luck!
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@@MIZOOKEY-AMIA wishing you luck
If you read this i steal your luck👽
Wishing you luck
As always great video :D
Gotta love when people argue about clearing a few seconds faster and somehow that makes the older character completely obsolete and powercrept...
Like dude it doesn't matter play what you like. The point of the video should be that both are insanely strong and capable of clearing whatever the game throws at you....
And yeah great showcases as always
exactly afterall it"s a video game guys😐
People love war lol. This is their time for one of the only pvps out there
true. that's why i'm not pulling either mauvika or arle and playing hu tao. she's clearing abyss halfs in like 50 seconds and she's fun.
As much as I agree with that stance, I also preferred it in this specific case cuz arlech mains/wanters were really trashing mavuika for quite some time now. The "she needs xilonen and citlali to even work" kinda arguments were getting out of hand and mav was getting unfair treatment. This kind of content becomes necessary.
@@dalwindersingh4564 yeah it does get annoying when people trash a character you like. I actually use both of them on separate teams to clear abyss, and that makes the whole argument of who is better just hilarious to me.
You should've included Hu Tao ...before anyone bathes me with salt, i know she's lowest now, but it'd be cool just to see how far is she and if she's still can be used up to some investment in case anyone prefers our lovely Funeral Parlor director.
realistically you could have used arle's e to mark bol on the regisvine while it's shield is still up, instead of literally starting at 0 bol the moment you break the regisvine
they introduced bol in 4.0 only to neglect it til 4.6 🤣
exactly. It would be equavilent of Mavuika using half of her Burst
I'll be honest...it's regisvine damage test on regisvine legit don't matter, and they proceed to actually mark the actual harder enemies later so doesn't super matter in the long run
But you forgot that arlechino c2 give her free bol on her E cast
C2 mavuika will delete her to be honest its not competition it is massacre @@latinachan4368
The only showcases that matters is Abyss and Mavuika still clears by far. There's no need to remain stuck on the first pointless showcase where Arlecchino had a chance because
DPS output peaked with Mavuika and Citlali era. Not just because of Mavuika's high burst damage but also the speed which it can be abused with Xilonen without relying on ER. I havent seen a DPS like this in the past 4 years who not only possess a destructive firepower but also equipped with insane speed to deliver the highest amount of dmg over the shortest time. Like wtf did hoyo cook😂
As a Nirvana Retainer in Hi3 and also a Genshin speedrunner this is so peak. I love the motor cycle so much. Its so Honkai coded gameplay (im looking at you bronya)❤
U can also start a rotation with arle charge attack to get her bol from her weapon passive. If ur not doing that u might as well compare her using jade wing spear cuz in that case its no difference
I tried this in many scenarios but it never saved time. It's an extra second to do a physical CA.
@ hmm that can be yeah i thought u just didn’t try. In this current abyss i have more succes using that ca pre skill cast cuz i can just barely finish the new boss in 2 rotations if i do that
@@IWinToLoseYou shouldn't have answered man.. They needed something to cope.
@@S3tsuna1man why are you fighting invisible enemies
@@alexsjarif cope hard
i think the Tradeoff for Mavu insane damage is the fact that he need a Natlan Character (Please note that this is not a bad thing) to become Significantly well, therefore might let a little more Team Comp than Arlecchino which is not really a Region Locked Character, and from what i see its just that Mavu Rn has like 2 Insane Support (Citlali Xilonen) for her Team (Which is Really Premium) and the most insane part is them being Natlan Even Buff Mavu More for the Fighting Spirit (I Might just re telling the last point lol) but imo The Powercreep is not that big, sure these things happen but as long as the Enemy HP Aint like 2 Times Stronger Now, then its not really a problem. (Next Abyss seems to have 375% HP Multiplier but the enemy is like Random Ahhhh Overworld Mob so like, LOL)
Of course it's real, it's creeping more closely than before.
@@yujin-1907 Neah, Abyss is also increasing in difficulty, we just don't notice it because we have many strong characters. A long time ago, we would get one boss maybe in one half and you were supposed to clear the non-boss half within 1m or so and use the remaining 2 minutes for the boss half.
Now, with the latest Abyss we have bosses on both halves and not only that, they have a wave of enemies before the boss like the small green dinosaurs before the fat one and the small geovishaps before the boss. Not to mention all enemies and bosses get increased HP every 2-3 patches or so.
I invested 2 years of wishing into Raiden to get her to C6 as a F2P and now random nonames Mualani or Kinich just stomp her at C0
Last arle banner was past 5 patch ago before mavuika released.
@@Gennosuke1983 the differences were only a couple seconds and all showcases had over 3minutes left for the other side to complete. arlecchino being powercrept doesn't mean much when she herself already clears it just as fast. its the equivalent to complaining a character that already 0 cycles moc got powercrepts by a new character that can 0 cycle moc.
@@Gennosuke1983oh, I noticed it. The abyss has been getting very obviously more difficult. And that's a real problem because you are FORCED to pull for newer characters and abandon your older ones. At this point, is it worth it pulling anymore if in two or three patches you can't use your favorite characters anymore?
As a veteran player who has been playing since launch, I think I will finally abandon Genshin
@@Emmanuel_RochaThat's.. just gacha in general and Star Rail is in a worse situation
people overestimate the buff from current first half abyss. in the past when you had only like 50-70%elemental dmg in total (goblet + maybe something else) , of course having an elemental goblet had significant value... but currently arle has following elem dmg bonuses: 40 from passive, 56 from artifact set, 40 from cinder city, 46 from goblet, 15 from bennet c6 and 36 from her signature weapon...so in total you already have 233 elemental dmg bonus and suffer from diminishing returns (and it could be even more if counting archaic petra on xilonen, xilonen signature and citlali signature). personally i have citlali signature but only gladiator set. and found out that at least in current abyss with ATK goblet my arlecchino does almost 10% more dmg. it may be the case that even without current abyss buff atk goblet on arlecchino could be better... i'm just lasy to test it in overworld my atk goblet just has 1 roll more in crit rate so it should not be worst than pyro goblet anyway.
Finally
But it’s kinda sad
Arlecchino couldn’t even enjoy being the best pyro dps in the game till her first rerun 🤣🤣
I mean she came before THE nation of pyro
IDK why Arlecchino players always bring this up like Lyney didn't get powercrept in 2 patches by her
She can take the dub as the best affordable pyro dos tho, she might not be better than Mavuika for new AR players in openworld bc of her BoL mechanic but she wrecks endgame content effortlessly. In the exception for Natlan's weekly boss atl
She can take the dub as the best affordable pyro dos tho, she might not be better than Mavuika for new AR players in openworld bc of her BoL mechanic but she wrecks endgame content effortlessly. In the exception for Natlan's weekly boss atl
@@DragonoftheDarknessFlameI don't know what people crying over Arlecchino and Lyney when both of them already powercrept Hu Tao, Yoimiya, Klee and Diluc 💀💀💀
its more like a "perfect support" powercreep than just a regular dps powercreep.
@20:50 thank you for violating my plant non-friend goddamn papilla
I was initially planning to C2 Mavuika but after seeing how much damage she already does at C0R1 I decided not to because there's no point in doing so anymore. She already does so much damage for the current content. I'd rather C2 someone like Furina who is able to increase the power level of so many other teams.
Good choice Tbh .
I mean it is to be expected that Arle will be powercrept at some point, and Im glad it's the Pyro Archon, like Mavuika gets so many useless nitpicked hate at this point that at least her numbers are undeniable!! 😅
I think the hate is fair
I was so hyped for cool units in natlan but they are all goofy and this game feels not longer like a fanatsy Game
Arlecchino has a better story, looks way better, has a lot more mech, and is high fantasy
Natlan is so dissapointing 🥲
I feel like as it stands the powercreep between the 2 is there but come the release of further cryo or hydro supports after we leave natlan it is possible that the gap could be bridged as we will move on from the nightsoul mechanics.
I personally love using both characters and look forward to what we see in the future
Nope. Mavuika can drop all except xilonen or citlali for upgrades.
Hoyo also probably isnt powercreeping xilonen sonit be citlali being replaced by cryo archon or bennett by some universal buffer.
Arle would need some really targeted support to run a different team from mavuika.
It's funny how people just don't like Mavuika and try to cope like arle isn't one of the best characters in the games two , but like y'all know mavuika is just better right ?
Arle copers: Mavuika isn't a consistent DPS.
Reality: Mavuika's clears faster than arle even with lower level talents.
Arle copers: Okay but she is unplayable with F2P supports.
Reality: Mavuika still clears faster with F2P supports.
Arle copers: Anyway Arle is still better than Mavuika in Abyss.
Reality: Arle lost to Mavuika in an abyss which is specifically designed for Arle.
Conclusion according to Arle copers: Arle is the best dps and Mavuika is Trash 😂
I feel bad for them. All of their argument has been proved wrong and the only thing they have left now is some high quality copium 😢
Personally I prefer Mavuika as a Mavuika main but she just have more frontload. On a single boss, Mavuika is better, but on longer fights, Arle is just better than Mavuika
@@mxrshiiethis is completely wrong
The logic "frontload is better in short fights and sustained is better in longer fights" generalizes something that cant be generalized i.e : damage and rotation length [i wouldnt go into detail but it should be quite clear]
Mavuika and arlecchino have 18-20 sec DPS rotation, there is no doubt that mavuika does more damage and more DPR than arlecchino [mavuika is the only DPS who can hit a 2M DPR at c0] which makes it impossible for arlecchino to keep up since they both have the same rotation length, if mavuika's damage was untouched but she had a 30 sec rotation, arlecchino with 18 sec should be able to beat mavuika but thats not the case, they both have the same rotation length and you can try this in the new event with max difficulty, arlecchino wouldnt beat the boss faster than mavuika at all times
@@mxrshiielonger fights when nothing survives mavuikas second rotation
@@gautham6981 I mean in multi waves sorry
@@mxrshiie In the multi wave scenario, you would be right if Mavuika was a single target DPS. But that's not the case. Both her burst and CAs have large AOE. She can hit most enemies while Arle can't. My level 1-8-10 Mavuika's CA's hit 300k+ when melted. Now imagine the whole group getting hit by this. With double cryo teams you can melt 5 CAs if you do a specific combo. People say she is a front load but they don't mention that those melted CAs almost equals her burst damage. I don't hate Arle or anything, I even would be pulling for her in next banner because her attacks look cool. But a fact is a fact. Even in multi wave Mavuika is faster due to the AOE and those CAs.
Tier list vid please its been a while❤
I think this is a unfair comparison Mavuika is not even crown while Arlechino got a advantage of max talents.
in exchange for that, shes always has full FS while arle needs 2 different showcases for both scenarios
and mavuika still manage to outperform arlecchino even with a handicap
@@vht1 Did u watch the abyss runs bcs Mavuika f2p team is not at full FS after the 1st rotation but still cleared faster than Arle
what does fs mean?@@NnnKoinnN
@1Chase0 fighting spirit, Mav has that mechanic instead of the usual ER
nice video!!
Ah yeah arle fans are still trying to defend their father. She couldnt even catch up with mavuika even with +%75 pyro damage bonus lmao
Also Mavuika has level 6 talents
@@Gennosuke1983 i forgot that thats just too ridicilous
I’m love both arle and mav, so this is a win win that both my fav character r top dps.
Bruhh, I don’t even have C6R5 Xilonen but my arle c0r1 deals over 400k when her NA melts and 200k when doesn’t melt. 2NA como where u do 3NA dash 2 NA deals over 1.2m dmg and takes close time to Mavuika’s burst. Also Arle having 10/10/10 talents do not add that kind of a buff cause u just used normal attacks but Arle having less atk, less em and 65% less crit dmg changes a lot xd. Also why vape not melt team???
Finally someone with sense, ngl bro i've been fighting some player waay before Mavuika release, i said that Mailed Flower with EM stats is not fair against Arlecchino's weapon, even in this video Arlecchino has no elemental mastery at all and he tested them in elemental reaction WTF. I guess money can't buy them simple knowledge 🤷
@@adilfadhilah4334 You are just guessing things , these are by far best speedruns availbale rn. You can make and upload on internet if you think its not best. I know its not fair but it is Bis right?
If arlecinno had talent 6,6,9 then difference in this comparisn would be between heaven and eartn.
U can just do 10/1/1 idc
@@MiraculersEditz I'm not guessing, Hoyo literally wrote full paragraph in the character details (i) explaining how important elemental mastery is to increase damage output in elemental reaction, also in this video one using forward melt and the other is reverse vape.
The first rotation in the abyss will give mavuika a free burst but after that arle stacking BOL isn’t similar to mavuika stacking Night soul?
much needed video
Its sad to say but mavuika in her best in slot team is quit a bit stronger than any other dps in the game. I have mavuika c0r1 and also c1r1 arlechino both build pretty well. When using them in the abyss or against natlan local legends i found that most of the time mavuika barely wins BUT i’m comparing a c1 against a c0 so the fact that mavuika is sometimes outperforming arle at all is already crazy.
Thats not even mentioning her qol like being able to heal, infinite interupt resistance and the option to go for a support playstyle.
Bro i dont know what you are talking about but i have c1r1 arle and cor1 mauvika and when they both are in their best teams
Mauvika still claps arle and its not even close like whooping 15% or more dmg difference
Arle has been powercreeped way too hard, its sad actually
I got c2 r1 mavuika and lets just say the natlan local legends had a nightmare of a day lol
@bgbq8591 i mean no dps can compete against c2 mavuika until c6.... Just imagine if she wasn't nerfed in the beta her c2 would've outdone every dps at c6 back then
I’m getting C1 R1 Arlecchino, and waiting to get C? R1 Mavuika when she re runs. I’ve decided to not get C2 R1 Arlecchino because Furina is having her re-run, and I skipped on her previous re-run (huge mistake I know). I’m extremely excited to have Arlecchino home, I adore her play style and her personality makes it all the better. 🔥
Arle is still incredibly strong, especially with the self-healing, but it's just hard to beat Mav's overtuned nuke. They could've balanced it out by making her charged attack scalings lower but considering she's getting massive hate because people were disappointed with her kit then I guess making her the strongest DPS in the game is to soften the blow lmao. I just hope these crazy numbers is the limit and not just another thing to take over by other future units. I remember being so happy when my Mona nuked a 200k damage by screenshot vape in the early days and now it's more consistent to do so.
Correction: Self healing + built it def passive on arle*
The funny thing is, she was nerfed not long before they gave content creators early Access, I actually thought she will go live with her previous numbers and oh boy she was overtuned even more than now
Arlecchino is still plenty strong 😄
Her charged attack was literally nerfed bro. Imagine if it retained it's first version with that multiplier lol
Self healing is her weakness to be honest, because she can't be healed so you have to waste time dodging to maintain your HP before the next Burst. Every Pyro DPS is played with Bennett anyway, so self healing is not needed. You just want to spam your attacks in Bennett circle without worrying about your HP, which you can't do with Arlecchino