Honestly, the biggest thing about crusade is how weird it feels to play. Super awkward fallspeeds and stuff. (Although IMO the controls are better than ssf2's because of the ability to actually jump immediately out of your dash). It sucks because either you play crusade with its weird engine, or ssf2 with its 30 fps, which is frankly unacceptable for a fighting game EDIT: Okay, so this update is amazing. The new engine changes actually fix nearly all of my complaints about it. The game still has the problem of weird characters and unfinished moves, but a lot of other characters feel great. Fox and falco may not look great but they play extremely well, cptn falcon feels almost identical to melee with some cool new changes. And a lot of characters actually still look good too. Pikachu for example actually looks better than his ssf2 counterpart. This update actually makes the game as fun as ssf2 for me, provided that you don;t play the stupid unfinished characters like Pheonix wright or gooey. EDIT#2: Seriously, if you ever tried this game and gave it a pass, try it again. Play some of the characters I mentioned, set airdodge type to melee, and set up a controller. Seriously it's great now. EDIT#3: This is the only smash game (including the official games) other than project M where the AI has a genuinely threatening punish game. They'll actually combo you. The AI is still an idiot in neutral, but hey, whatever.
Sprites and over-all unpolished look of it. Before SSF2 Beta I liked Crusade way more though because of it's content, but then Beta happened and I forgot all about Crusade. This update almost makes me want to go back.
Sly Maverick It has terrible controls, the graphics look like crap, the roster looks stupid, Goku is NOT a f***ing video game character and it's a mockery to the SSB series.
So, uhh, who is your favorite character in Crusade? Mine is Snivy. I don't even want to question why they put him/her in, but who cares. (Edit: Holy Crud! 44 Likes and 23 Replies!) (Another Edit: Starfy should get a spot on the roster)
MinaX Deathwish But is better, fun and satisfying doing it the normal way. I did it without F8 and it felt very good unlocking theme all and seeing the sign saying that i unlocked every single character of the game.
Roster- Crusade wins Gameplay- Smash Flash 2 Wins in base, Crusade wins in more technical aspects Color Swaps- Crusade Music- Crusade Custom character sprites- Smash flash 2. God damn the sprites for Mario, Link, Sonic, Tails, Megaman, and Yoshi are amazing examples Single Player- Crusade Now do note that I'm not mirroring what was said in the vid, this is my Opinion
Happy to see I'm not the only one out there using Klonoa. Would love to see some matches of you against that player, gives me a chance to learn some new stuff
The ssbc Discord is really active with a big competitive scene and I think people even make tier lists! It has been a while since I explored Crusade’s competitive side
I'll probably give it a shot since it has some neat characters. Hope SSF2 can add some vets like Ike or Lucario as well though, I like SSF2's execution more.
I'm pretty sure Falco's reflector includes both Melee and brawl versions, where you can use it as a reflector, or press down b again to use it like brawl and smash 4. You can obviously cancel the second down b with any other button basically.
all we need is the character quantity and deticated servers AND sprites that actually feel right at home with the rest of the roster, and boom, you got yourself one HELLA fangame!
I kinda mentioned that already, But yeah thats an important one. Also, have you played the game and realized that preforming smash attacks was kinda off?
as for me i really love crusade, always had a ton of fun with it, loved that it was really different from ssf2yeah i guess some characters are not really finished or need a resprite but, they will have their own im sure of it they are doing a really good and big job
His opinion is entirely subjective so how in the fuck could it be totally wrong lol. Also you are stating that SSF2 servers are good... which they aren't... there fucking horrible.
@Alan Jordy How is an opinion wrong? That makes no fucking sense. It's like Melee elitists all over again, with their "every Smash fangame that isn't SSF2 is bad because I'm right and you're not".
Here is what I think of SSF2 and Crusade, the two popular Smash fan games. I personally like SSF2 better is because of the creative remixes, way better spriting, gameplay, and better online servers. And what I like about Crusade is the gameplay, updated pixel arts (Thank god they revamped them), a variety of characters to choose, and they made some or most of the characters better. SSF2 and Crusade are both unique in their own way just like the official Smash games. But this is just my opinion and thoughts. And just letting you all know, if you want to share your opinions and thoughts below this comment, I'll respect what you think.
honestly the one reason i play ssbc is because i always wanted waluigi in smash and i finally got that i prefer the feel of ssf2 and honestly i find it more enjoyable but i cant help myself but play ssbc for waluigi
I'm pretty sure everyone already knows this but you can add whatever song you want to any stage just drag the song to the folder of a stage and it will play I always thought this was pretty cool and not a lot of people mention it
Man it sucks that apparently my windows 10 Laptop won’t let me get all of the games Files downloaded upon compressing the zip file cuz I was so freakin hype for this update of Crusade that I forgot about SSF2 but now I’m salty Af that my laptop won’t give me the character files, Stage Files and Item Files cuz I wanted to play Shantae in the update badly.
Some new character ideas -Shovel knight -Inklings -Wolf -Diddy Kong -Rosalina and luma -Pokemon trainer or Charizard -Decidueye -Zelda/Sheik -Ike -King Dedede -Bandana Dee -Pit -Dark pit -(Maybe) a rivals of aether character -(Maybe) Labo-man
See when i got crusade i played awhile and then decided to change my controls. I go into the control setup and its lagging, so naturally i hold a random button down cause why not. I looked away and when I looked back I realized that I had set EVERY SINGLE CONTROL to one button. I literally cant even start the game because when I press it on the start screen it takes me right back out. I have to re download.....
I think ypu would be a good reviewer. No really. I think I would enjoy you for reviewing the original smash's and other games! but its just a suggestion. Other wise I like your video alot. So Just keep doing what ypur doing, I really enjoy this.
only thing i found a glitchy bug on Shantae is her up attack, this happend for me when battling Master Hand and going through the credits (i bet this happens for the others, but i only saw it in them, tell me if it does happen on others). when i used it, i freeze in place and cant move at all till i get Hit.
I tried Krystal at one point... wtf how do you even, her combos are non-existent and her projectiles have hella end lag. Props to you for somehow having fun with that character.
Well you'll probably like Shantae, her magic and transformations are really good! And 2 words... Dat. Ass. Seriously, Back Throw has good damage, knockback, and a fitting sound effect xD
There's a glaring issue with online play in this game... it's near unusable. I've tried many times with many friends and many methods, and none worked. I think they need an online multiplayer update, because I don't want to have to do the equivalent of a Minecraft server setup just to play a few matches with some friends.. Unless I'm doing something wrong here. Do you have some tips on how to use online? I would really appreciate that if you have figured it out.
someone help the game error says the game cant start because MSVCP140.dll is missing from your computer. try reinstalling the program to fix the problem i did three times anyone know how to fix
My only issue with Crusade right now is that the game freezes when ever classic mode does Kirby team. Other than these annoying glitch I love tis updated version.
Doctor Mario's my least favorite character in Smash, to be honest. There's a variety of characters that could've taken his spot, like Paper Mario, Professor Layton, Shovel Knight, or even Espella (from Layton vs Wright.)! [I have a feeling they might add Layton, so add in Espella since she's a main character in the crossover. I already got an entire moveset figured out, too!]
The reason I don't like Doctor Mario is that he's a clone character, and kind of similar to Mario. Though I do get some people prefer a somewhat different version of a character's moves, so I see why Lucas came back in the Smash 4 DLC.
Bowler wont pin this >:V
Chaos Zero siiiiiikkke bowler wont remove this
he did it :v alv
xd
Marco Rubio hola
Nice bait
if mcleod gaming and crusade team helped each other they will make the best smash fangame ever
rayano ben
That would be so *HYPE*
OMG I CAN SEE THAT It'll Be Awsome If That Did Happen
I agreed
@Pizza Passta wave dash
They would make a game better than smash
PSA: If you press F8 on the title screen you unlock all characters and stages
very true
Kregg Brothers. What Are The Locked Characters And Stages
T H A N K S
You just saved me a month of grinding 😮
Suplement トラッシュ woah
Honestly, the biggest thing about crusade is how weird it feels to play. Super awkward fallspeeds and stuff. (Although IMO the controls are better than ssf2's because of the ability to actually jump immediately out of your dash). It sucks because either you play crusade with its weird engine, or ssf2 with its 30 fps, which is frankly unacceptable for a fighting game
EDIT: Okay, so this update is amazing. The new engine changes actually fix nearly all of my complaints about it. The game still has the problem of weird characters and unfinished moves, but a lot of other characters feel great. Fox and falco may not look great but they play extremely well, cptn falcon feels almost identical to melee with some cool new changes. And a lot of characters actually still look good too. Pikachu for example actually looks better than his ssf2 counterpart. This update actually makes the game as fun as ssf2 for me, provided that you don;t play the stupid unfinished characters like Pheonix wright or gooey.
EDIT#2: Seriously, if you ever tried this game and gave it a pass, try it again. Play some of the characters I mentioned, set airdodge type to melee, and set up a controller. Seriously it's great now.
EDIT#3: This is the only smash game (including the official games) other than project M where the AI has a genuinely threatening punish game. They'll actually combo you. The AI is still an idiot in neutral, but hey, whatever.
hey man I set up a controller and could not get the dashing to work how did you get dashing to work?
Mr.Miyagichu Make sure the walk type is set to analogue
Bobofett72 /FnafFan9001 I've only played him a bit and he felt very awkward, but I'll give him a try.
Bobofett72 /FnafFan9001 alright cool. I'll try him the next time I play.
I love how this guy made a complete 180.
Just goes to show never judge a book by its cover
0:22 "... some people hate Crusade with a passion."
What about Crusade makes people hate it?
The characters, the quality of the sprites, the fact that it's not SSF2
Gameplay is pretty float-y
Sprites and over-all unpolished look of it. Before SSF2 Beta I liked Crusade way more though because of it's content, but then Beta happened and I forgot all about Crusade. This update almost makes me want to go back.
It's the brawl of smash fangames
Sly Maverick It has terrible controls, the graphics look like crap, the roster looks stupid, Goku is NOT a f***ing video game character and it's a mockery to the SSB series.
So, uhh, who is your favorite character in Crusade?
Mine is Snivy.
I don't even want to question why they put him/her in, but who cares.
(Edit: Holy Crud! 44 Likes and 23 Replies!)
(Another Edit: Starfy should get a spot on the roster)
Marth and Luigi so far
Shantae, and Ridley.
Mario, Sonic, Luigi, Tails, Yoshi (Yes even Yoshi), and Knuckles.
Eric Corzine all of them
Ashley
You don't have to unlock characters you can press f8 at title screen and unlock everything
MinaX Deathwish But is better, fun and satisfying doing it the normal way. I did it without F8 and it felt very good unlocking theme all and seeing the sign saying that i unlocked every single character of the game.
Roster- Crusade wins
Gameplay- Smash Flash 2 Wins in base, Crusade wins in more technical aspects
Color Swaps- Crusade
Music- Crusade
Custom character sprites- Smash flash 2. God damn the sprites for Mario, Link, Sonic, Tails, Megaman, and Yoshi are amazing examples
Single Player- Crusade
Now do note that I'm not mirroring what was said in the vid, this is my Opinion
I love that you make a whole video on the update but they dont even announce it in a video yet ;-;
They did announce it in facebook...
The Rare But who uses facebook
Zen Zuri that's why bowler exists
Extra Modes of Crusade + Everything Else of Flash 2 = Ideal Smash Fangame.
Yup, totally.
"You can tell them took their time in Shantae" boi, you know nothing of the wait we had to go through for the update to drop.
Klonoa, Saki, and Snivy were really fun when I last played this.
Happy to see I'm not the only one out there using Klonoa. Would love to see some matches of you against that player, gives me a chance to learn some new stuff
I want Shantae on a legit smash game so bad
There's a handful of characters I also want, but most of them are pretty close to impossible
The ssbc Discord is really active with a big competitive scene and I think people even make tier lists! It has been a while since I explored Crusade’s competitive side
My god Bowler, you fucking scared me, i almost thought Dr. Mario, Shantae and a Captain falcon resprite were confirmed for SSF2 Beta .-.
PoppyBroSr. U blind or..?
The Thumbnail was too tiny for me to read, so i could only deduce this was an SSF2 Video
you say that like it's a bad thing
BowlerSSF2: you gotta unlock them all so....
Everyone: *presses F8 at the beggining to unlock everything* that didnt take long xD
(love ya vids dude)
Can SSF2 have a change airdodge option, like Crusade does?
I'd love to see Marth wavedashing again.
4 spelling errors UA-cam gave me. 5.
LOL just imagine Luigi coming at you at 1,000 mph. I've heard he had the best Wavedashing in Melee, and was crazy on the ledge
Shantae looking good o3o
How does this have 28 likes lol
Dr. RL123 30 now XD I guess they like Shantae as much as I do!
I gesso
When Magic Mode costume :(
thanks
I'll probably give it a shot since it has some neat characters. Hope SSF2 can add some vets like Ike or Lucario as well though, I like SSF2's execution more.
I'm pretty sure Falco's reflector includes both Melee and brawl versions, where you can use it as a reflector, or press down b again to use it like brawl and smash 4. You can obviously cancel the second down b with any other button basically.
I was a ristar slash pac man main since 0.9.I really hope they improve both characters.
all we need is the character quantity and deticated servers AND sprites that actually feel right at home with the rest of the roster, and boom, you got yourself one HELLA fangame!
I kinda mentioned that already, But yeah thats an important one. Also, have you played the game and realized that preforming smash attacks was kinda off?
Cool, myne are shadow and megaman. My for fun character is wegee
as for me i really love crusade, always had a ton of fun with it, loved that it was really different from ssf2yeah i guess some characters are not really finished or need a resprite but, they will have their own im sure of it they are doing a really good and big job
His opinion is entirely subjective so how in the fuck could it be totally wrong lol. Also you are stating that SSF2 servers are good... which they aren't... there fucking horrible.
@Alan Jordy How is an opinion wrong? That makes no fucking sense. It's like Melee elitists all over again, with their "every Smash fangame that isn't SSF2 is bad because I'm right and you're not".
Here is what I think of SSF2 and Crusade, the two popular Smash fan games. I personally like SSF2 better is because of the creative remixes, way better spriting, gameplay, and better online servers. And what I like about Crusade is the gameplay, updated pixel arts (Thank god they revamped them), a variety of characters to choose, and they made some or most of the characters better. SSF2 and Crusade are both unique in their own way just like the official Smash games. But this is just my opinion and thoughts. And just letting you all know, if you want to share your opinions and thoughts below this comment, I'll respect what you think.
And yet Crusade didn't even try correcting ZSS's horrible sprite. They took some of SSF2's sprites, but they didn't do it with ZSS for some reason
I really like the classic mode in this version, Expecially Master hand battle cuz it is really challenging and awesome
Great video! I love how you broke down every aspect. Thank you.
If you fight Shantae against Goku, she gets an alternate taunt her hair turns yellow. This doesn't with any other character. (that I've tried)
Boi, Weegee is legit. He never died anyway. He just ascended into a higher plane of existence.
New update!!! Yes updating it now!!!
there is a way to get all characters fast. just press F8 at the Menu screen and you get all characters ! :)
Use f8 at the title screen to unlock all characters :] i think this will help a few people
I'm a Shantae main now. Now just wait till Nintendo give her the place she deserves on the official game #ShantaeForSmash
u can play him now but its pain too see it
honestly the one reason i play ssbc is because i always wanted waluigi in smash and i finally got that
i prefer the feel of ssf2 and honestly i find it more enjoyable but i cant help myself but play ssbc for waluigi
Greggorizing Edgelord we're getting Waluigi for SSF2 👁👄👁
I'm pretty sure everyone already knows this but you can add whatever song you want to any stage just drag the song to the folder of a stage and it will play I always thought this was pretty cool and not a lot of people mention it
Man it sucks that apparently my windows 10 Laptop won’t let me get all of the games Files downloaded upon compressing the zip file cuz I was so freakin hype for this update of Crusade that I forgot about SSF2 but now I’m salty Af that my laptop won’t give me the character files, Stage Files and Item Files cuz I wanted to play Shantae in the update badly.
If you want to unlock all the characters at once, you can just press F8 on the title screen.
Some new character ideas
-Shovel knight
-Inklings
-Wolf
-Diddy Kong
-Rosalina and luma
-Pokemon trainer or Charizard
-Decidueye
-Zelda/Sheik
-Ike
-King Dedede
-Bandana Dee
-Pit
-Dark pit
-(Maybe) a rivals of aether character
-(Maybe) Labo-man
The music is my favourite part.
If you haven't heard the Ice Cap remix yet, You have to get on that, it's fucking godly.
Crusade is really good! I hope there’s a competitive scenery for this game
Yay Finally got Hare Thank you so much 👍💖
YO! WHEN DID THIS COME OUT?!?!
Good video man! Btw if you ever wanna play sometime just hit me up lol
AmareSSB can I vs you in SSF2?
idk how to install it.... i extract the file then what do i do?
Open the .exe?
@@TwinbeeMint oooh okay, thank you!
Hey bowler if you want to skip character unlocking then just press f8 on the title screen to get all the characters from the start
That outro song is super funky.
What??? Crusade's out?? That's awesome!
So far the best thing about Crusade are those character portraits...
Viste el nuevo trailer de Super Smash Cruzade?
That P3 ending theme tho
This was pretty good I'd like more!
See when i got crusade i played awhile and then decided to change my controls. I go into the control setup and its lagging, so naturally i hold a random button down cause why not. I looked away and when I looked back I realized that I had set EVERY SINGLE CONTROL to one button. I literally cant even start the game because when I press it on the start screen it takes me right back out. I have to re download.....
I think ypu would be a good reviewer. No really. I think I would enjoy you for reviewing the original smash's and other games! but its just a suggestion. Other wise I like your video alot. So Just keep doing what ypur doing, I really enjoy this.
only thing i found a glitchy bug on Shantae is her up attack, this happend for me when battling Master Hand and going through the credits (i bet this happens for the others, but i only saw it in them, tell me if it does happen on others). when i used it, i freeze in place and cant move at all till i get Hit.
can you link me the patch?
One day, if Mccleod gaming ends up porting SSF2 over to a better platform that would be so hype
Weegee is not a dead meme since hes been on cfc aka cartoon fight club and the channel for it has around 420k subs last time I checked
They added Doc. I'm happy with just that.
5:19, melee battlefield ledges?
Where’s Spyro the dragon on the character selection?
Please do thoughts and opinion about Crusade 0.9.2, i think characters are more balanced and competitive.
Psa: don't use hamachi for online unless you want to get hacked.
Yeah, make sure you just port forward. Safer. Wish they had a dedicated server list. Would be nice.
just downloaded it, but didnt expect majority of the characters to be unlockable lol
Krystal is my main and literally one of the characters I love to play as. I have yet to try out Shantae tho.
I tried Krystal at one point... wtf how do you even, her combos are non-existent and her projectiles have hella end lag. Props to you for somehow having fun with that character.
Nate Pearson I don't know really lol. I just picked her up and instantly had a lot of fun with her.
Well you'll probably like Shantae, her magic and transformations are really good! And 2 words...
Dat. Ass.
Seriously, Back Throw has good damage, knockback, and a fitting sound effect xD
Where did you find the renders for the characters?
I wouldn't have known there was update if it wasn't for this video.
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH FINNALY OH MY GOD YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES WOOOOOOOW
Bowler press F8 on title to unlock everything. Just the tip!
Damn.... game looks better than last update. Might pick this game up again
nvm dll missing
you can unlock everything by clicking f8 in the title screen
When it comes to those games. I'm more competitive with ssf2 and crusade is the one I like to have fun with
Am I only the way that has problems running this?
Is it just gamejolt or does it have to do the framskips?
what did you use to download this? I'm trying a use a rar opener to open the file but is says its corrupted.
what about the final smashes?
Am I the only one that thinks WOLF should be in a Smash game like this or SSF2
you can unlock them or at the title screen just press F8
Mewtwo’s sprites came from what could’ve been in ssf2
There's a glaring issue with online play in this game... it's near unusable. I've tried many times with many friends and many methods, and none worked. I think they need an online multiplayer update, because I don't want to have to do the equivalent of a Minecraft server setup just to play a few matches with some friends.. Unless I'm doing something wrong here. Do you have some tips on how to use online? I would really appreciate that if you have figured it out.
I see some coments saying "You can unlock every character pressing F8 in the tittle screen", but i tried, and i can't :(
Bobofett72 /FnafFan9001: I know, but when i try nothing happens.
why is tingle is in because adding characters in this game will make up for them not winning the Smash 4 Fighter Ballot
My only complaint is that you have to be real specific about what button you press compared to ssf2 at least the hit box isn't so short
This update has taken... how long?
Something like a year or two right?
Srry but without bias ssf2 is way better, of course ssc has some unique things to it but it still needs some more updates.
Yeah... i prefer crusade, but i can see that it just needs a little more update and then it will surpass ssf2.
This is fun because Weegee is my favourite character (Yes,in terms if gameplay)
yo bowler you haven't made a video about crusade in a while.
@AAKHYAN GAUTAM ik
You can unlock everyone instantly by pressing F8 on the title screen
If you press F8 on the title screen you unlock all characters
SSF2 is waaaayy better but crusade has potential
What new features shante and DR.mario?
i wish the online worked like ssf2 so confusing =(
My thoughts on Super Smash Bros Crusade
UA-cam: Yea, this is super smash flash 2.
someone help the game error says the game cant start because MSVCP140.dll is missing from your computer. try reinstalling the program to fix the problem i did three times anyone know how to fix
My only issue with Crusade right now is that the game freezes when ever classic mode does Kirby team. Other than these annoying glitch I love tis updated version.
is there sprinting in this game? i cant sprint for some reason not matter what i try
Wait why is the colour palette limited in ssf2?
Nemesis because it's in Flash
Treyshellz wow no shit sherlock
Rip wegge
Does this game still have final smashes? If it does I'll probably get this in a heart beat lol
Oh i know how they work in this game, i played the previous versions. I only ask because i recall one version coming out that lacked them completely
i can't find the temple stage in this update ;-;
What software is used to run this
Last time I checked it wasn’t available for Mac is it now?
Doctor Mario's my least favorite character in Smash, to be honest. There's a variety of characters that could've taken his spot, like Paper Mario, Professor Layton, Shovel Knight, or even Espella (from Layton vs Wright.)! [I have a feeling they might add Layton, so add in Espella since she's a main character in the crossover. I already got an entire moveset figured out, too!]
The reason I don't like Doctor Mario is that he's a clone character, and kind of similar to Mario. Though I do get some people prefer a somewhat different version of a character's moves, so I see why Lucas came back in the Smash 4 DLC.
Paper Mario wouldn't be a clone character. He uses a hammer, and can turn into a paper airplane. They can even add his copies from Paper Jam!