Sex before marriage is sin and God hates sin. God will never change his word for anyone. I admire Rorisang for sticking to the word of God no matter what others are saying, thats genuine faith Rorisang & keep up the good work
Lol hayi nawe awenzi sense if we can look at the content of the conversation, especially where they started to disagree with each other. For example she was asked if colonialism didn't not take place in South Africa what she would be now, according to religion, she didn't not answer because she is running away from saying I will be practicing the religion of my elders. Then after let Bishop conclude. So all I can say Black conversation should be on the look out for people who are more knowledgeable about these religions, not people who will talk about their experience, but people who will state facts based on the context of the religion he/she is representing.
"Awenzi sense" if uzoqala kanjalo le paragraph yakho but ulindele ukuthi ngiyifunde.Respect difference of opinion.Okunye nokunye kusale nawe.Wena wenza sense kodwa ke
Maponga starter out preaching christ then when he had enough followers slowly started preaching about land and ancestors. He lead many astray. It's unfortunate. The man is a charlatan
Liberating black people with confusion and darkness from the pit of hell. 1Timothy 2:5, There's only one mediator between God and mankind, the man Jesus Christ.
@@SindisileMarasela don't tell me about a book of lies, every time when things get serious, you Christians run to your book. These verses are not the word of God.
@@SindisileMarasela To us who understand him it's not confusion because we know there's no hell. We only have low vibration people like you known as demons in your language
@@sphiwemaseko2268 One day you will regret calling the Scripture the book of lies & surely you will face the consequences of your words. Ungadlala ngayo yonke into but not the word of God, kuzoshuba for wena & I feel pity for you.
Admin Fiks, I think once again when emotion dictates your thinking you will have an irrational reaction or "behaviour" if you will. Similar to someone IN-LOVE. Very irrational behaviour which generally affects their overall thinking. Ever caught yourself saying "I don't know what I was thinking???" My opinion is in support of Maponga J, he may not have gone about it in a pleasent way to say it lightly, I myself, may have taken offence, mainly because I do not take kindly to anyone attacking my mental state of being. But there is TRUTH and if you look past the ego and need to be RIGHT or living in a state as a result of miseducation/misdirection you go into automatic denial and defense mode and thus the information or knowledge is lost altogether because we want to validate our EMOTIONS FIRST and not to call on logic or common sense. It's like we hear to respond and not listen to understand. (We want the DRAMA and theatrics ) So these guys were in the ring with a roaring lion. So to be fair the panel was very unbalanced for this type of conversation. Bishop Maponga was truly frustrated it was evident. He's heard all before. Another point to take is that he is more of a Teacher and the other panel members are what I would compare to as "students" in this situation. What matters and the issue at hand is that, we share a common injustice that needs to be addressed. Point blank
bishop Mamponga speaks with no filter , e.g some will say that a friends child looks like its father(lets say he is ugly)... Bishop Mamponga will say ...your child is ugly.....that sounds wrong but it might be true
what is the purpose of debate if you are not going to oppose each other.....the is no playing it safe or respect in debate because someone else opinion may feel offense....so dont debate if you can't take the heat....maponga is the debator
@@PhindileMahlangu-rq3pb like he dealt with the three of them without even being moved. You and I both will go to the psychiatric clinic to ask for antidepressants..🤣🤣
Lets me coment kanje mina cc, utata lo othi ungu Bishop kwayena ulahlekile bcz that name alisebenzisayo lobuBishop ubuya nalo kwi Christianity, so yena makenze lomsebenzi wakhe, aphume ebantwini
@@njabulonkosi6332 Suxoka mfethu lotata uqeda kutsho moss ukuthi unama qualifications for being a bishop...umntu make confused uconfused qhaaa njeh kuphela.
@@njabulonkosi6332 ngeke ndikuphendule ke mna Buti bcz I was commenting abt what I knw abt lotata not an argument. Izwi lithe kuzobakhona abalahlekisi abaninzi abazowutsalela emvakwam umhlambi kaThixo. So umntu ke makaye kulendawo emvunayo bt ngeke silahleke sonke tuu.
Cc i didn’t watch the episode and unfortunately maponga I listened to him a few times. To me he has a take over spirit, he’s right about everything and is all knowing. I agree fully with your analysis because I felt the exact same way you’re explaining for a different video I saw of him. He’s too much for me and you are right what has he done in Zim
Different experience doesn't mean we can't throw to each other an opinions or challenge each other's experiences. Maponga did nothing wrong, but the generation now is really pathetic on evaluating seniority and age. Hlukumeza what?
Hi Fiksa very interesting topic. Lento yokuqhoshelana ngokolwaz iyakhula cc Futhi uma singayikhuzi iyaphambili. People awaken to certain truths about their own personal journeys ,then they end up rediscovering some old or forgotten knowledge and wisdom from the past ,because there's something there for them which is meant to help them in their current spiritual journeys. Then suddenly thina banye sesiyathukwa asazi lutho, what ever we doing is stupid. Now we must bow to them and glorify them because bona banolwaz esingalwaz. Bayakhohlwa ukuthi ulwaz alupheli into eqhubeka for eternity, someone else will come with even deeper knowledge than you have, kushuti naye sesizo bow kuye ,koze kube inini. Hhaybo a abantu abahlukane nathi, we all have access to knowledge and information but we can only take what we need otherwise sohlanya phela.
Nah sis wami ....abantu bancamela ukuba personal kunoku landela iqiniso ....umaponga ube right ngoku ngaba ncengi ngoba it seems like abantu abavuki ..
For those of us that followed Maponga for the longest time we understand the magnitude of brain damage caused by religion to the point our own kids disagree with our own truth. If you don't believe in ancestors, do this...remove their surname and stop using it. Secondly Throw away that Bible bcos it's a bunch of stories about ancestors anyway. Everyone on the Bible died. However remember an ancestor scientifically speaking is the genetic element carried out by our DNA which is why we such things as ubungoma or when a person is "possessed" and someone speak through a living person occur.
I think you need to understand the Bible is God's word, the death of those people is non of our concern what is important is what is written. Secondly, why would we prioritize dead people who cannot hear, sense, or speak instead of speaking to God directly through prayer and reading his word?
He didn't have to be disrespectful,his wisdom or level of qualifications doesn't qualify him to disrespect others but he can educate them or share his views without bashing or undermining others.
I think before you make a video on you tube you should clearly understand Mamponga, because that was not about feminism try to come up with facts to support your statement.
"Ukube abafikanga " How is everyone expected to answer that question honestly,they arrived years ago and we can't predict what happened then or assume anything behind our understanding. My point is clear- Respect difference RESPECT OTHERS AND THEIR VALUES RESPECT DIFFERENCE OF OPINION
THIS WHOLE VIDEO ADDRESSED ONE THING "RESPECT " Respect for others Respect difference of opinion Respect for others cultural beliefs and religion Inhlonipho!!!
First be respectful and type her name right. Knowing Jesus, being true to your faith and not letting others bully you because your faith is different to theirs qualifies as being delusional to you?
Sex before marriage is sin and God hates sin. God will never change his word for anyone. I admire Rorisang for sticking to the word of God no matter what others are saying, thats genuine faith Rorisang & keep up the good work
Ayikho indzaba yakho. She is too young to deal with Maponga. It’s time for the truth
Lapho awusho lutho.
Wena nje uwedwa Uthini??
WOW WOW WELL SAID.....IN MY OFFICE NOW YOU DESERVE AN INCREASE.
Maponga he is arrogant. I cant reconcile wisdom and arrogance. Akere jena he was a Christian for decades....he must allow us to be.
Lol hayi nawe awenzi sense if we can look at the content of the conversation, especially where they started to disagree with each other. For example she was asked if colonialism didn't not take place in South Africa what she would be now, according to religion, she didn't not answer because she is running away from saying I will be practicing the religion of my elders. Then after let Bishop conclude. So all I can say Black conversation should be on the look out for people who are more knowledgeable about these religions, not people who will talk about their experience, but people who will state facts based on the context of the religion he/she is representing.
"Awenzi sense" if uzoqala kanjalo le paragraph yakho but ulindele ukuthi ngiyifunde.Respect difference of opinion.Okunye nokunye kusale nawe.Wena wenza sense kodwa ke
And you already know the religion of her elders.RIGHT
Who is emotional??? WHY ,HHAYI NIYAHLEKISA KODWA KE NGIKHULUMA NGENHLONIPHO BUT COMMENTS EXPOSED ABANTU ABAVELA BA- COMMENTE
CHRISTIAN ARE WEAK AND THEY GET EMOTIONAL WHEN ASKED THAT QUESTION.
Exactly 💯 agree with u
Maponga starter out preaching christ then when he had enough followers slowly started preaching about land and ancestors. He lead many astray. It's unfortunate. The man is a charlatan
When you talk about land is a bad thing?
@@tshidisokote5569 no, but, talking about it as if it were stolen from you is bad
@@IamBarati
It is stolen still 😊
@@IamBarati was it not stolen?? They even went beyond stealing land, they stole us too
Love that you're doing this in isiZulu
For an old man of his stature Mr Maphonga come through as disrespectful.,
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Maponga is liberating the minds of black people. He is right
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Liberating black people with confusion and darkness from the pit of hell. 1Timothy 2:5, There's only one mediator between God and mankind, the man Jesus Christ.
@@SindisileMarasela don't tell me about a book of lies, every time when things get serious, you Christians run to your book. These verses are not the word of God.
@@SindisileMarasela To us who understand him it's not confusion because we know there's no hell. We only have low vibration people like you known as demons in your language
@@sphiwemaseko2268 One day you will regret calling the Scripture the book of lies & surely you will face the consequences of your words. Ungadlala ngayo yonke into but not the word of God, kuzoshuba for wena & I feel pity for you.
Admin Fiks, I think once again when emotion dictates your thinking you will have an irrational reaction or "behaviour" if you will. Similar to someone IN-LOVE. Very irrational behaviour which generally affects their overall thinking. Ever caught yourself saying "I don't know what I was thinking???"
My opinion is in support of Maponga J, he may not have gone about it in a pleasent way to say it lightly, I myself, may have taken offence, mainly because I do not take kindly to anyone attacking my mental state of being.
But there is TRUTH and if you look past the ego and need to be RIGHT or living in a state as a result of miseducation/misdirection you go into automatic denial and defense mode and thus the information or knowledge is lost altogether because we want to validate our EMOTIONS FIRST and not to call on logic or common sense. It's like we hear to respond and not listen to understand. (We want the DRAMA and theatrics )
So these guys were in the ring with a roaring lion. So to be fair the panel was very unbalanced for this type of conversation. Bishop Maponga was truly frustrated it was evident. He's heard all before. Another point to take is that he is more of a Teacher and the other panel members are what I would compare to as "students" in this situation.
What matters and the issue at hand is that, we share a common injustice that needs to be addressed. Point blank
I do not know what she meant by dealt with him..Maponga has valid points period
She managed to make her points even after being called schizophrenic!!!
Asbonge sisi, for your listening skill you've helped a lot of us by explaining everything clearly. Love you
Thank you so much ❤
bishop Mamponga speaks with no filter , e.g some will say that a friends child looks like its father(lets say he is ugly)... Bishop Mamponga will say ...your child is ugly.....that sounds wrong but it might be true
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what is the purpose of debate if you are not going to oppose each other.....the is no playing it safe or respect in debate because someone else opinion may feel offense....so dont debate if you can't take the heat....maponga is the debator
Calling each other names is not part of debate.Google word "schizophrenic ".
YEAH A DEBATOR WITH FACTS...IF YOU'RE WEAK NGEKE ULUNGE LAPHA
He is so disrespectful this Bishop very judgemental maan
Angimthandi lobaba I'm sorry to say that bathong
I never want to be in the same room with this Bishop, he'll surely destroy me with words..😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂Angimfuni nje I will be so crushed I will move straight to depression
@@PhindileMahlangu-rq3pb like he dealt with the three of them without even being moved.
You and I both will go to the psychiatric clinic to ask for antidepressants..🤣🤣
The so called Bishop Maponga is an instrument of darkness
@@SindisileMarasela Just like you're also an instrument of darkness.
@@mphosa995 I believe in Jesus Christ as my Lord & Saviour no matter what anyone says.
Fiksa ngathi uRori umSupport(a) ngobq ewu muntu wesfazane. Ekbeni izinto ekade ezisho bezinganabuhlakani
Ukuthi azinabuhlakani umbono wakho
Elami iphuzu bhuti ukuthi sihloniphane, ukwenza nokuqonda izinto ngeke kufane kodwa singakwazi ukuhloniphana
Fiks thanks for a thorough explanation and assessment of this matter 😊.
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Corrections Khehlelezi and Maponga don't speak on behalf of our ancestors,they speak for themselves
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They speak knowledge on behalf of our Ancestors
The platform was not for Rori she is immature for such conversations
So vele people that know nothing judge those who knows
Njengawe nje
@@fikssa6964 😂😂😂😂😂
Lets me coment kanje mina cc, utata lo othi ungu Bishop kwayena ulahlekile bcz that name alisebenzisayo lobuBishop ubuya nalo kwi Christianity, so yena makenze lomsebenzi wakhe, aphume ebantwini
Ungabhayziseki ungathi uzibiza ubizwa ngabantu ukuthi unguBishop waliphiwa ngabantu so you jus said nothing
@@njabulonkosi6332 Suxoka mfethu lotata uqeda kutsho moss ukuthi unama qualifications for being a bishop...umntu make confused uconfused qhaaa njeh kuphela.
@@njabulonkosi6332 ngeke ndikuphendule ke mna Buti bcz I was commenting abt what I knw abt lotata not an argument. Izwi lithe kuzobakhona abalahlekisi abaninzi abazowutsalela emvakwam umhlambi kaThixo. So umntu ke makaye kulendawo emvunayo bt ngeke silahleke sonke tuu.
The education he has was brought by colonialism!
Cc i didn’t watch the episode and unfortunately maponga I listened to him a few times. To me he has a take over spirit, he’s right about everything and is all knowing. I agree fully with your analysis because I felt the exact same way you’re explaining for a different video I saw of him. He’s too much for me and you are right what has he done in Zim
kodwa ave ukhuluma kahle😍🥰
Ngiyabonga dadewethu ❤
Its already on you tube my love and 2nd episode
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Different experience doesn't mean we can't throw to each other an opinions or challenge each other's experiences. Maponga did nothing wrong, but the generation now is really pathetic on evaluating seniority and age. Hlukumeza what?
Ubani okhuluma ngokuhlukumeza !!!
Why Jesus, grown up in Africa Egypt??? If you know answer.
Maphonga needs to learn how to conversate & we really do appreciate his words to our black conversation
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Hi Fiksa very interesting topic. Lento yokuqhoshelana ngokolwaz iyakhula cc Futhi uma singayikhuzi iyaphambili. People awaken to certain truths about their own personal journeys ,then they end up rediscovering some old or forgotten knowledge and wisdom from the past ,because there's something there for them which is meant to help them in their current spiritual journeys. Then suddenly thina banye sesiyathukwa asazi lutho, what ever we doing is stupid. Now we must bow to them and glorify them because bona banolwaz esingalwaz. Bayakhohlwa ukuthi ulwaz alupheli into eqhubeka for eternity, someone else will come with even deeper knowledge than you have, kushuti naye sesizo bow kuye ,koze kube inini. Hhaybo a abantu abahlukane nathi, we all have access to knowledge and information but we can only take what we need otherwise sohlanya phela.
Thank you dadewethu siyathukwa, asifundiswa ileyo inkinga.Awukwazi ukubizwa omunye ngagama kodwa uthi uyakha or uyafundisa
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Nah sis wami ....abantu bancamela ukuba personal kunoku landela iqiniso ....umaponga ube right ngoku ngaba ncengi ngoba it seems like abantu abavuki ..
Hhayi ngeke ufundise abantu ngokuthi bayahlanya,ukufundisa nokudelela omunye akufani.Akabeke ulwazi lwakhe abantu bafunde lokho okufanele bakufunde
I agree
With you on that ...
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Cha inkolo yemakristu iyabahlukumeza abanye Bantu kani ikahle inkolo engabahlukubezi abanye abantu
Kanjani
LoL you are deliberately attacking our senses and eyes.
For those of us that followed Maponga for the longest time we understand the magnitude of brain damage caused by religion to the point our own kids disagree with our own truth. If you don't believe in ancestors, do this...remove their surname and stop using it. Secondly Throw away that Bible bcos it's a bunch of stories about ancestors anyway. Everyone on the Bible died. However remember an ancestor scientifically speaking is the genetic element carried out by our DNA which is why we such things as ubungoma or when a person is "possessed" and someone speak through a living person occur.
I think you need to understand the Bible is God's word, the death of those people is non of our concern what is important is what is written. Secondly, why would we prioritize dead people who cannot hear, sense, or speak instead of speaking to God directly through prayer and reading his word?
Maponga will forever be better than her in these kind of conversations
He didn't have to be disrespectful,his wisdom or level of qualifications doesn't qualify him to disrespect others but he can educate them or share his views without bashing or undermining others.
I think before you make a video on you tube you should clearly understand Mamponga, because that was not about feminism try to come up with facts to support your statement.
Play the video again and again.Also watch Maponga UA-cam video addressing what happened,and why he said that
Kodwa akekho ophendule umbuzo kabishop ukuthi ukube abafikanga abamhlophe ngabe amachristian akholelwa kwini...
Christianity ayihlangani nebala okokuqala lokho
"Ukube abafikanga " How is everyone expected to answer that question honestly,they arrived years ago and we can't predict what happened then or assume anything behind our understanding.
My point is clear- Respect difference
RESPECT OTHERS AND THEIR VALUES
RESPECT DIFFERENCE OF OPINION
Its deeper then that. If we say if the planets did not divide or split what would have happened?
Life is beyond Colonisation. What if the dinasaurs did not go extinct? What would have happened?
Fate would have happened!
@@Izooo78 Thank you❤
No she didnt
Nina anifuni lwazi
Wee....???
You don't know what you talking about..
Meaning
You bias cos Christians. It is not about English he has knowledge
THIS WHOLE VIDEO ADDRESSED ONE THING "RESPECT "
Respect for others
Respect difference of opinion
Respect for others cultural beliefs and religion
Inhlonipho!!!
If you don't mind please support "BIAS" or your false assumptions.
ENGLISH IS NOT AN ISSUE HERE BUT DISRESPECTFUL BEHAVIOR IS
Uthini
Rorang is delusional what I so lot of people are not realistic like anyway in this world
First be respectful and type her name right. Knowing Jesus, being true to your faith and not letting others bully you because your faith is different to theirs qualifies as being delusional to you?
How do you use delusional but can't write "saw"
@@ItsthatSammy 😂😂😂😂
@@Dumizulu_Rain I honestly wanna know from i fan ka Maponga 😂😂😂
@@ItsthatSammy hey he must just go back to school or pay someone to teach him proper language etiquette