@china travelthat's good to know! we could not find an apartment that cheap in Shanghai without living in a shared apartment. Since we are two people and have two cats we need a little extra space so we need to pay a bit more.
It depends on the area, somewhere at the edge of the city but near the subway will be much cheaper, around 5000-6000 for two bedrooms apartments with nice parks downstairs
True - rent in Shanghai is almost like in NYC now which is crazy...but on the brighter side, the pay probably will be better too and there are more opportunities as well. Good luck with your apartment hunting!
Hooray! In the last few videos I thought you guys was going to move to Thailand or Cambodia 😳🥺 I'm glad you have pick Shanghai 😂 Even though rents are high (as in NYC), but you will make more, and enjoy your life to the fullest! Also I knew you were from Kansas City because you have a familiar midwest accent! I have lived in KC for 10 years (20 years ago), last 2 years were in unforgettable Plaza West.
It would be great to move to another country, but right now is not the best time for us to move. That's so cool you also live in KC! The Plaza is a beautiful area.
If you add the map of Shanghai with locations of the apartment, your agent, and more images of the neighborhood, you will be truly the Shanghai version of HGTV.
I suppose you didn’t like layout much but overall, prices were quite affordable, apartments were spacious, and it’s all in a central Shanghai. Salaries are tend to be higher in a city which is way cheaper and more livable than earlier mentioned NYC, which is even not comparable to what Shanghai can offer at all. Take a look at Tokyo for example. Rent in dorms cost starts at about 7-10k RMB per month, if you want to rent in a decent area without roommates it would cost you about 16-25k RMB for 15-35sq.m. apartment. English teacher’s salaries are about 12-15k RMB per month.
We definitely saw some really nice apartments! It's true, Shanghai for some expats is not that expensive due to the salary increase, but for a local it has to be very expensive. Toyko is very expensive! That's a crazy amount to pay for rent compared to the salary.
RMB to U.S dollars, take a decimal off and add 50% 16'000 -> 1600 + 800 = $2400 a month (what is average salary is also different city to city and country)
12:13 it is crazy seeing the sign of the street where my office is located haha. Working at the center of Shanghai, I can only afford to rent an apartment on the outskirt. it takes me 75 minutes to commute in the morning (one way) every day
When I was house hunting in Beijing back in 2016, I looked at an apartment but the agent later told me “no foreigner”. I wasn’t happy about the discrimination, so I asked him why. He said that’s the home owner’s preference, and they rented to foreigners before. The renters partied hard and left the property damaged after only renting for 6 months. This seems have happened to quite a few properties with foreign students or single young professionals as renters. Oh well, I dont’ like generalization, but I did meet some westerners like that and feel quite entitiled in China.
They are! We used a few different agents that we got their WeChat from. Stay in Shanghai is a good company that you can use. I also believe there may be some Chinese apps to look but we can’t read Chinese so it was difficult for us.
you guys must really like big house,two people and two cats live in a 100+ sqm space is too luxurious in Shanghai center,I dread to think paying 15000 or even more money for rent.😮😮😮
Because we came from Suzhou we had a very nice large apartment for not a lot of money, so it was hard for us to realize the size difference here! 100sqm is big for two, but we have to think of our cats. With two cats they need space to run and play, we also have to think of their litter boxes so we needed space to separate that.
@@JamesandKeli I'd seriously recommend (albeit too late) to learn to at least read Chinese, or get a Chinese friend to help you. The prices you're willing to pay in Shanghai is insane and you're definitely paying foreigner prices. You can pay a hell of a lot less using Chinese agents and haggling. I wish the best of luck to you both
It is crazy how expensive it is! If we were to choose an apartment outside of the center it would be cheaper, and if we weren't going through agents we could probably get it cheaper.
We’ve had a leather couch before and used a slipcover however the cats still managed to scratch it. It’s honestly just best to not have leather for us so we don’t have to pay for it.
You are wasting your money. Divide that price by 2 and that is what locals pay for the same apartment. Good move to Shanghai because Suzhou is the crappiest place to live in China.
We absolutely loved living in Suzhou!! It’s so beautiful and peaceful there. We know that the cost of our apartment is a lot more expensive than what the locals pay. We are lucky enough to be able to use our housing allowance from our job to help ❤️
who says locals pay half the amount? b.s.! the rents seem right to me and I am quite familiar with the market. the 2nd apt at 15800 seems to be a good deal to me. 150 sm also sounds adequate for a couple.
May I ask you to do a favor for your listeners and watchers when you say 5000 in China people in the US do not know what you mean to us that is way too much money for anything I can buy Beverly Hills for 5000 will you please translate into American dollars so we have an idea what you are talking about you are not only speaking to people from your own part of the world but you’re speaking to the world will you please translate it into dollars that we can understand
Can you believe how expensive apartments are in Shanghai?! We were not expecting the size and price difference it is in Shanghai.
@china travelthat's good to know! we could not find an apartment that cheap in Shanghai without living in a shared apartment. Since we are two people and have two cats we need a little extra space so we need to pay a bit more.
It depends on the area, somewhere at the edge of the city but near the subway will be much cheaper, around 5000-6000 for two bedrooms apartments with nice parks downstairs
@@a.d.5121 Yes, if we chose to be outside of the center it would be cheaper, but we really wanted to live in the center for our first year in Shanghai
@@JamesandKeli yes Shanghai is like NYC now, which you would find US$3500-$4000/mo rent 😂😂
@@davienotellin4313 crazy how much it costs!!
True - rent in Shanghai is almost like in NYC now which is crazy...but on the brighter side, the pay probably will be better too and there are more opportunities as well. Good luck with your apartment hunting!
That is very true! Thank you!
nyc is still way more expensive.
I love listening to the cars on the highway, its soothing
Thank you for bringing us along your journey!
Welcome to town! Hope you guys found a place...
We did! It took a lot of searching but we finally found something.
nice video
Thanks 😁
Wonderful upload Really Cool Video keep it up!! Amazing stuff
Thank you so much!! 😊😊
Great content and editing! Justin.
Thanks Justin 😁
I will love to be there soon
Hooray! In the last few videos I thought you guys was going to move to Thailand or Cambodia 😳🥺 I'm glad you have pick Shanghai 😂 Even though rents are high (as in NYC), but you will make more, and enjoy your life to the fullest! Also I knew you were from Kansas City because you have a familiar midwest accent! I have lived in KC for 10 years (20 years ago), last 2 years were in unforgettable Plaza West.
It would be great to move to another country, but right now is not the best time for us to move. That's so cool you also live in KC! The Plaza is a beautiful area.
Wish ya'll good luck
Thank you!
If you add the map of Shanghai with locations of the apartment, your agent, and more images of the neighborhood, you will be truly the Shanghai version of HGTV.
We thought about adding the map! We will make a blog post and add it into the description that includes all of this information.
It's a great idea!
It’s rarely the same as on the pictures. I’ll be there in Aug, quite anxious for the apartment hunting 😅
House hunters
😁😁 I'm excited to share our apartment tour video!
We are so close!
People are so lucky to be living Shanghai. But the best thing about this city are the expat and the bars.
I suppose you didn’t like layout much but overall, prices were quite affordable, apartments were spacious, and it’s all in a central Shanghai. Salaries are tend to be higher in a city which is way cheaper and more livable than earlier mentioned NYC, which is even not comparable to what Shanghai can offer at all. Take a look at Tokyo for example. Rent in dorms cost starts at about 7-10k RMB per month, if you want to rent in a decent area without roommates it would cost you about 16-25k RMB for 15-35sq.m. apartment. English teacher’s salaries are about 12-15k RMB per month.
We definitely saw some really nice apartments! It's true, Shanghai for some expats is not that expensive due to the salary increase, but for a local it has to be very expensive.
Toyko is very expensive! That's a crazy amount to pay for rent compared to the salary.
SHANGHAIN CITY MY BIG
yesss If you guys didn’t go through the agents it’ll be cheaper…almost 3k
Yeah, but for us since we can't read or speak Chinese we can't use the apps that help make it cheaper.
omg Two Tickets are back
Thank you for watching! 😊 We've had a busy month moving. Finding a new job, an apartment, and then getting settled in took a lot of time away from us.
@@JamesandKeli hope you enjoy the metropolis life, and best of luck
@@rickywang3648 thank you!
O BAIRRO FRANCES DE SHANGHAIN E BEM VERDE E TEM MUITO ESTRANGEIROS QUE GOSTA DESSE BAIRRO
RMB to U.S dollars, take a decimal off and add 50% 16'000 -> 1600 + 800 = $2400 a month (what is average salary is also different city to city and country)
12:13 it is crazy seeing the sign of the street where my office is located haha. Working at the center of Shanghai, I can only afford to rent an apartment on the outskirt. it takes me 75 minutes to commute in the morning (one way) every day
Wow! That's a very long commute every day. Apartments are so expensive here.
China the best elements are concentrated in the South place and Hainan
We would prefer to go where the mountains are! Guilin or Yunnan would be beautiful 😍
Shanghai beijing shenzhen are crazy,but Hong Kong is another level.
I bet! Hong Kong is one of the most expensive cities in the world.
When I was house hunting in Beijing back in 2016, I looked at an apartment but the agent later told me “no foreigner”. I wasn’t happy about the discrimination, so I asked him why. He said that’s the home owner’s preference, and they rented to foreigners before. The renters partied hard and left the property damaged after only renting for 6 months. This seems have happened to quite a few properties with foreign students or single young professionals as renters. Oh well, I dont’ like generalization, but I did meet some westerners like that and feel quite entitiled in China.
Yeah we were disappointed by not being allowed to rent from that apartment, but it was okay because it led us to the apartment we have now!
SH rentals are expensive. I'm keen on moving there this summer, how do you go about finding a place without an agent? I can speak Mandarin a bit.
They are! We used a few different agents that we got their WeChat from. Stay in Shanghai is a good company that you can use. I also believe there may be some Chinese apps to look but we can’t read Chinese so it was difficult for us.
Have prices fallen with their property market issues?
That we are not sure of.
👋 hi there) there is a bathtub in the first apartment 😳🥺🤧
Thank you for watching! Shanghai has a lot of expat amenities, such as stoves, dryers, and washers! They've really adapted to the market here.
btw I wanna a big city life lol 😂
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you guys must really like big house,two people and two cats live in a 100+ sqm space is too luxurious in Shanghai center,I dread to think paying 15000 or even more money for rent.😮😮😮
Because we came from Suzhou we had a very nice large apartment for not a lot of money, so it was hard for us to realize the size difference here!
100sqm is big for two, but we have to think of our cats. With two cats they need space to run and play, we also have to think of their litter boxes so we needed space to separate that.
@@JamesandKeli I'd seriously recommend (albeit too late) to learn to at least read Chinese, or get a Chinese friend to help you. The prices you're willing to pay in Shanghai is insane and you're definitely paying foreigner prices. You can pay a hell of a lot less using Chinese agents and haggling. I wish the best of luck to you both
of course, shanghai is china's nyc
What websites/services do you use to find these apartments in the first place?
We used WeChat contacts that we found, we also used stayinshanghai.com to help
Wait.. so these apartments are like 2500-3000 USD? How do you guys afford this on a teacher's salary. I'm confused.
Yeah they are very expensive! Lucky for us our school pays us a housing allowance to help offset the cost
@@JamesandKeli your school is good
It's easy because all the apartments are empty
2-bedroom apartment, 16k+ per month is not something affordable for the working class, even middle class.
It is crazy how expensive it is! If we were to choose an apartment outside of the center it would be cheaper, and if we weren't going through agents we could probably get it cheaper.
There are still English teaching job opportunities in China after the govt crackdown?
Yes, the new law mainly effected training centers and for profit schools. The job market is getting lower but there are still opportunities
Why not add some slipcovers on the sofas?
We’ve had a leather couch before and used a slipcover however the cats still managed to scratch it. It’s honestly just best to not have leather for us so we don’t have to pay for it.
move in to sanya
I'm not sure if we are ready for an island life yet!
You are wasting your money. Divide that price by 2 and that is what locals pay for the same apartment. Good move to Shanghai because Suzhou is the crappiest place to live in China.
We absolutely loved living in Suzhou!! It’s so beautiful and peaceful there.
We know that the cost of our apartment is a lot more expensive than what the locals pay. We are lucky enough to be able to use our housing allowance from our job to help ❤️
who says locals pay half the amount? b.s.! the rents seem right to me and I am quite familiar with the market. the 2nd apt at 15800 seems to be a good deal to me. 150 sm also sounds adequate for a couple.
May I ask you to do a favor for your listeners and watchers when you say 5000 in China people in the US do not know what you mean to us that is way too much money for anything I can buy Beverly Hills for 5000 will you please translate into American dollars so we have an idea what you are talking about you are not only speaking to people from your own part of the world but you’re speaking to the world will you please translate it into dollars that we can understand
Thanks for the feedback! We are making sure to include conversions of prices for our future videos.
太疯狂了！一年的租金可以在中国小县城买套房了，来自底层人民的仰望😂
哈哈哈确实
Haha, Shanghai is so expensive! Our rent size tripled moving to Shanghai.