Should all Toilets be Gender Neutral?
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Restrooms, toilets, washrooms, bathrooms, design, architecture, interior design, gender, sex, neutral, transgender, trans, accessibility, building code, space planning, plumbing, unisex, coed, toilet stalls
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Any wife will tell you what men don't always lift the seat while peeing and often dribbling on the seat this doesn't bother other men as they don't always need to sit down
Some men enjoy having their bottoms spanked most people don't have a problem provided they're not obliged to join in. Some other men get turned on by wearing women's clothes and pretending to be women but now they demanding that every else plays their game
I don't like the person signs that have just been adapted for this. Just draw a toilet, it's more explanatory anyway.
You are a genius.
Except when you're visiting a country where toilets look different.
Or use a poop emoji?
What is the problem with them?
There's a highschool that does that and just puts a wheelchair next to the toilet symbol on wheelchair accessible bathrooms.
As a dude, I couldn’t care less about who shares my bathroom as long as they adhere to the three cardinal rules.
1. Don’t bother me when I’m trying to poop.
2. Don’t bother me when I’m trying to pee.
3. Don’t bother me when I’m washing up after having just peed or pooped.
So yeah, bring on the gender neutral restrooms. My only concern is that with the new regulations indicating that they are no longer required to provide two separate restrooms, the been-counters will quickly decide that three toilet stalls is more than enough for a floor of 300 office workers.
Removing the regulations on having two segregated restrooms doesn't mean that we have to remove the regulations on how many toilets are required for different numbers of occupants
Also, every other stall. That's a rule in the women's bathroom too
damn right, as long as you dont bother me, we're cool.
Might be easy for a man to say but as a woman who is part of a 1/4 statistic of sexual assault I say otherwise these are threat to women! Maybe not you but other men will be more likely to act of impulse and assault a woman or child in here! We can’t just throw safety aside for someone feel “uncomfy” in a bathroom! If you are a trans woman by all means come on in and share a bathroom with me if not go to the one that is designated to you!
@@athomefaves thank you!!!! Been trying to say this on as many videos on this topic. It’s a safety thing. Keep the women safe over coddling people’s feelings. The way that I get sexually harassed in public… I have evaded being followed in stores by going into restrooms where the creep wasn’t allowed. Some guy was practically pressing his body on me inside a restaurant and he came up out of nowhere. If I was in the restroom and he came in there I know he wouldn’t have let me out because he was blocking me as it was and there was people around so I know it would’ve been worse if he was allowed in the restroom, I one hundred percent would have gotten raped/assaulted by him. So many times I needed to take a breath because I was upset that somebody was fucking with me and I just went in the bathroom to collect myself. And what about women who have to adjust their undergarments or use the mirror and sink to clean up a mess of a period/ sinks and mirror are not in the individual stall.
Also if I was on the toilet , that guy who was harassing me in the restaurant , he would have went in and harassed me for my number when I was in stall, I know this cos he was following me around the restaurant asking for it. So this guy might not get bothered while he’s in the middle of going or trying to clean up himself or cleanse himself in the mirror or just adjust his undergarments in the mirror when he’s washing his hands… But us women do you get harassed, so sure make unisex bathrooms and women and male bathrooms. And if a transgender/transsexual woman wants to come in the restroom then sure but any other males no
I've had the idea of simply using iconography of the type of toilet (urinal or standard) inside the washroom and leave the human looking figures out of the equation, but I'm not an architect so I'm not sure if that would work!
That is actually how we do it at the place I work. We just show a toilet on the sign and don't say anything about gender.
@@ARTiculations Yeah, since humans are the only beings reading the signs and seeing the icons, we just need to know what type of toilet is in there for our needs. Putting human figures on there seems unnecessary for single-use washrooms
This makes so much sense, too bad it isn't really used.
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Now I’m imagining someone walks up, sees the sign with a toilet on it and goes, “Nope, that’s not for humans; I’m not shaped like that.”
@@ARTiculations I think we should put more gender neutral bathroom because of the benefit it gives us.We can agree that were only doing our personal business and that peeing or pooping yes I said it but is true or doing make up for women and hopefully nothing else.
Also, when I use a urinal, I'd prefer the divider to be about floor to ceiling, or as close to it as possible. I have no need being able to see the person standing next to me, but the best option for me is a single-use bathroom
I wonder if the (environmental) costs of having full stalls around urinals would be outweighed over their lifetime by the reduced water usage from people not choosing to use a toilet instead just to get some privacy. Or they could just be dual flush toilets.
It’s funny to me to see the ones where you can clearly look over them. Might as well not have them
And if you use a place with the barely-dividers, there's always someone else who has to walk in and break the Law of Men.
Just go in a stall that’s what I do
Just use the cabin toilet
the only issue I see with gender natural bathrooms are the that there aren't urinals which allow men to go very quickly. In Australia urinals will literally be a single wall with metal sheet where a substantial number of men can urinate and leave very quickly. I honestly think it would be good to even have like a separate male urinal section just to take pressure of the main toilets.
We should allow those to be in gender neutral bathrooms honestly. There is nothing wrong with the human body. Let alone the male human body
@@ThoughtProvokingVlogs Some men don't even like using urinals when other men are in the next urinal. A lot of men would feel very uncomfortable using urinals if there were women they didn't know in the room
"natural" 😂
You could put each urinal in a separated space? It will be less quick as you have to open a door, but you should also take time to pee and to wash your hands after. Chill out a little :)
This is fascinating, I never thought about adult caregivers and their patients. Thanks 💖 Also, I 100% prefer: shared hand-washing areas with fully partitioned gender neutral toilet areas. It cuts down on lines, and has more privacy to make people feel less like they're pooping-with-their-partner.
All bathroom stalls need to have no gaps. I hate those so much.
I like the idea of washrooms separated by social/private, rather than gender. That way people providing care and their clients/children can go together, and people that want to chat or do their make-up can go together. While other folks get to have a quite moment without feeling watched or interrupted.
The reason I don't like going into a washroom with urinals is because it feels so awkward to have somebody doing that right in front of me. It's not about gender or genitals, I just think peeing is a private thing.
Maybe a more private urinal design could be created? Maybe the section to the urinals has a door, or the layout design makes for fewer interactions while peeing.
One problem I can see if we switched to fully-private stalls (doors and walls that go all the way to the ground) is homeless people essentially camping out in them. I used to work in a grocery store, and at least once a week we'd have to deal with a homeless person causing trouble in the customer bathroom. Don't get me wrong: most of the homeless people would just use the bathroom in a totally normal way, didn't hassle anyone, and we paid them no mind. But every once in a while, someone would strip off their clothes and try to do their laundry in the sink. I can totally see a homeless person, on a cold winter day, going to a public bathroom with fully private stalls and spending their day inside one, rather than outside in the harsh weather.
I guess what I'm saying is, we need to work on getting homes for the homeless.
And stop freaking out about the gender identity of the person pooping next to you.
Simple, just make the stalls with an open bottom.
Really they just need to be cleaner, more efficient porta-pottys.
I mean each portable restroom has a toilet (obviously) a urinal that feeds into the toilet, toilet paper, baby changing table (depending, but often), and hand sanitizer.
If you could provide those with actual plumbing, (maybe skip the sink, and put that outside the stall) you would have all private options, in my opinion.
While fully partitioned stalls take up slightly more space and probably cost somewhat more than the non-partitioned version, I vastly prefer them in terms of privacy, versatility, and their capability as gender-neutral/gender-inclusive solutions. I get that some building codes require segregated bathrooms, but we should work to change that. I understand that some people are uncomfortable with non-gender segregated bathrooms, but I think as soon as people start using them, they will get used to them very quickly.
The one thing you lose out on with gender-neutral bathrooms are urinals for people who can pee standing up. They are much faster to use, more water efficient, and they keep the sit down toilets cleaner (since people won't be peeing into them causing splash-back). If I'm not mistaken this is one of the main reasons why men's bathrooms tend to have faster lines. I think the only solution to that is to have a couple of partitioned off urinals within the gender-neutral bathroom to keep the flow of traffic faster and more efficient.
Why leave out/segregate urinals? The people who use the toilets don''t change just because more stalls become available?
Now to get everyone to shut up about the "gender neutral" part and just call them bloody toilets, like everyone has them at home...
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@@Henk14789 I totally agree with your point that everyone has common use toilets at home that aren't gender segregated, the reason to refer to them as "gender-neutral" is to distinguish them from the more common public restrooms that are gender-segregated
I don't see why gender-neutral bathrooms shouldn't have urinals. For example, if you have a bathroom with stalls on one side and the sinks opposite of them, you could just section of a T-head (just two walls, doesn't even need a door) at the end and put the urinals to the left and right. And my university has one men's bathroom, where the stalls and urinals are in two separate rooms that go off from the washroom.
Rolf S Might that cause problems for people with strict religious prohibitions? Like, if the urinal is technically part of the bathroom, that makes it a ‘men’s room’ in a way that would keep out certain women, or indeed men who thought a woman might be in a different area of the bathroom?
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At my university, when I started all restrooms were gendered, but by the time I left, all the single-occupancy restrooms (or maybe just all the ones I knew of) had been switched to gender-neutral, and that was definitely a relief when 2 people of the same gender in that area had to use the restroom at the same time.
The only thing that bothered me about those was that the signs for them said, “Single Use Restroom,” which in my mind should mean, “This restroom can be used only once, then it’s used up and needs to be replaced.”
"single use restroom", well, when you flush, the room collapses in on itself, flushes itself down along with everything else and is replaced by a new one! LMAO
Gendered single occupancy restrooms are about the dumbest thing I’ve ever heard
@@Heartbeatzofficial yeah that makes no sense, the only point of gendered bathrooms is separation, but single use are already separated
Do women really want to walk past a row of men with their dicks in their hands standing at the urinal to get to the cubicle or will we have to knock down all the urinals on the planet and rebuild every public toilet on the to know the gay and trans community
This whole thing is basically a charter for peeping Toms and sickos who get off on watching women pee
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Here’s an advantage to single-stall: it might reduce a bit of pressure on the disabled toilets.
My son is autistic and, because of sensory sensitivities and high anxiety, can’t go in a regular public men’s room. The hand-dryers go off unpredictably, it hurts his ears, he has a meltdown. He usually has to use the disabled stall, simply because it’s often the only single-stall room available where he won’t have to be afraid of hand-dryers. (And if you’ve never tried to get an autistic kid to go into a place they’re scared of ... well, let me tell you. This isn’t faddishness, this is ‘That kid isn’t going in there unless you physically grapple him in there, literally kicking and screaming.’)
And I don’t apologise for taking him to the disabled stall: autism is a disability. But in single-stall places, I don’t have to worry we’re holding up someone with a physical issue, and I don’t have to deal with all the side-eyes and people telling me, ‘That’s the disabled toilet, you know...’ (Seriously, please son’t force me to explain my son’s neurotype and challenges while he’s standing right there. He just wants to pee without fear; let him have a bit of dignity.)
So single-stall is also helpful for people with non-physical disabilities, who may not need a handrail but do need extra quiet and privacy.
@@Masterchief12455 oh fuck off, It's not like we are taking about building 1 single toilet in every building for one person, the commenter is adding an extra reason upon a multitude of other reasons descussed in the video. Single stalled nb toilets are a the way to go and in no way will selfish to anyone.
Grow the fuck up.
Private bathrooms would solve every problem. Safety would be good. It would get rid of the ‘I don’t feel comfortable using the _ bathrooms’ it would solve literally every issue. Just have a toilet bin and Sanitiser then ur good.
Single person toilets are my favorite. It is actually a criterion i track when i go back to restaurants and bars. DC is a dense old city so it's more common than my midwest home and im a fan.
Gender-neutral bathrooms seem to have silently become the standard in newer Danish buildings. I never gave it much thought, and it just seems natural.
Agree. Some times it is supplemented with a segregated area for urinals, which I think is a great solution as this allows men to get done quickly and thus improving access to real toilets for those who need them.
so meaning women will suffer more harassment and rape
I don't mind having gender neutral toilets. My issue is how privacy would be handled. Regular toilets in the US are already pretty crap regarding privacy - stalls that leave wide gaps between door and floor, door and ceiling, and between door and wall (I close the door and there's still a visible slit I can see out of). Makes me miss the bathrooms in some parts of Asia where each stall feels like an actual bathroom _room_ and while sound still travels, nobody can see you.
Regarding urinals, if they have space for a bigger bathroom, a third of it can be for urinals, a third for sinks, and the other third for all the private stalls. Also, don't forget to put one or two folding tables for babies' use. And a bigger stall for handicap use would also be great.
The gaps in us toilets is so if someone gets sick or passes out, they can be rescued, although it can be a bit awkward at times 😕
@@oln8002 It's not the gaps at the bottom, it's the pieces of eldrich abyss on the _sides_ of the door.
Why, US, why? No one does this except for you. The world invented cheap plastic strips. Please get on with it.
I see where you’re coming from but there are ways to fix things/modernise toilets. All Stalls to be big enough to fit a wheelchair in, floor to ceiling walls are good and the doors & there’s a very small gap under door on video I seen but you wouldn’t be able to actually tell if anyone in there unless you’re really trying to. If normal stalls can fit wheelchairs in that means you don’t need another space for disabled toilets as as the cubicles would fit wheelchairs. Also you can get toilets that once you push door shut door will lock itself then you just undo it when you want to get out of the stall. You would get nappy charge areas but would require more sinks. Also there less chances of bee or wasp that’s going to sting you if they are floor to ceiling door & walls & aslong as they have a hygiene bin in each stall. I don’t see an issue. Designs of old buildings toilet areas might need to change but when I use to go college in the U.K. not university. Mens toilets especially the one next to coffee bar area were literally falling apart and needed an update they didn’t update mens toilets but they did build a unisex toilets there which were cleaner & open & yes I did use them, I had no issues with them. The only reason I was there to get a lecture to sign something for me to get say this me in a photo for a passport. Honestly I preferred unisex toilet purley because they were cleanest
Here in New Zealand I've noticed a trend over the last few years (principally in new buildings) of dispensing with gendered toilet areas and instead providing a number of single-person toilets containing a hand-basin which are accessible from a general area (so not really non-gendered toilets where all people share the hand-basins). In the toilet areas where there are shared hand-basins, these are often in a space which is not enclosed, thus making these hand-basin areas more public and presumably less potentially intimidating for those people who might feel uncomfortable being in a semi-isolated space with other genders. This seems like a pretty sensible solution to me, especially if there is also a room with urinals only (this is most common in bars, for the obvious reason). This set-up means that men who just want to urinate (and aren't neurotic) (o; can do their business quickly and leave the single-person toilets for those who need them.
I was paying a bill for one of my kids at the local university SUB (I'm a great dad, eh?) and was somewhat taken aback that the washroom that I would have considered men's was now labelled as "washroom with urinals" and the women's one was "washroom with no urinals". I'm not sure that I'm entirely ready for this, and it took me a minute or two to decide what to do. More private toilet compartments, like in Europe, and better urinal barriers might make a multi-user any-gender washrooms more acceptable.
I really liked the sign they had for the single user washroom: The pictogram had a man, woman, man/woman, and alien with the words "whatever, just wash your hands".
This really reminds me of the bathrooms in the UA-cam Spaces. I‘ve been to two so far, and both times I was kind of caught off guard by the gender neutral restrooms. However, it‘s all kind of... fine. Well, especially since each toilet actually has full walls, not stalls, therefore having more privacy.
Yeah I actually find it weird when I go to places with fully partitioned stalls that do mark them as male or female. I'm always like - since I'm the only one in there who cares what gender it's designated for? If the other stalls are all taken up, I always go in an empty single use toilet room even if it's marked as male.
@@ARTiculations Try going to a Brazilian courthouse just to FIVE KINDS of restrooms that you CANNOT USE! There are the "Judge's men's restroom", "Judge's woman's restroom", "Emplyee's men's restroom", "Employee's women's restroom", and "general public men's restroom" and "general public women's restroom". The general public ones are always the farthest and hardest ones to find. :P
I don't think the vast majority of people have a problem with parents bringing young children into the opposite sex toilet.
No, but it removes any potential awkwardness or ambiguity for people in that situation, which is a benefit, even if just a small one
Assuming the unspoken social convention in a situation is ''boys over 10 should not be in women's bathrooms" then there's a lot of potential for harassment or distress if a mother is taking a 13yo male child into the women's bathrooms because they a very shy, have a developmental disorder, have anxiety or some other reason why they need a parent with them.
That whole potential for conflict is completely taken away by a family room or accessible unisex bathroom.
I would
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Personally in spaces that are more serious, such as offices, I wouldn't mind gender neutral restrooms. Everybody is behaving themselves (hopefully). But if it is a bar, it might be better to separate the two, so that you dont have guys drunkenly following women into the bathroom when they just want to get rid of some weird ass dude.
Very good point. But what if the drunk dude followed the sober dude into the Men's Restroom?
The last time I went to the De Young, they had converted all the washrooms into gender neutral ones. It was one of the best public bathroom experience I’ve ever had lol. The washrooms were clean and noone stood in a line, it wasn’t awkward, and nobody made it awkward. Definitely the most efficient restroom I’ve ever experienced out and about
I agree that as soon as people implement and use gender neutral/desegregated restrooms they will realize what a non issue and actual improvement that setup is
Will this idea work on all nation such as Dubai fastest growing nation with prosperity and Economically ? India, China, Italy ... will this idea make life better for everyone living on this earth . WITH such growing talents and technology here we are discussing on toilet to pee n poop...
there is a particular toilet in a large mall near my house in northern italy that has: Men, women, boy, girl, and disabled options.
I think that if you have the space the more options the better. In italy I think that by code you have to provide a disabled option: sometime is a separated gender neutral option, and sometime is the male o female option, or the only option.
You can easily design a common room with urinals where the stale are close to the door in front of the sink, and the urinals are in the back separated by a wall. It may be a little awkward at first but it works
I've been to two places with fully private stalls: Buc-ee's and Alamo Drafthouse in Mueller (Austin). Buc-ee's is funny in that the private stalls are in the gendered area of the bathroom. Alamo Drafthouse Mueller has a small Men's gendered area with urinals, and then an open area with fully private stalls adjacent to handwashing sinks.
Let's argue about the running taps at 4:46
I'm just back from a trip to the Nordic countries, and there I noticed that a) toilet partitions are virtually nonexistant (it's almost all full partition walls for the toilet compartment) and b) there were many gender neutral restrooms all over (using aforementioned partitioned compartments). It seemed like it has well been integrated there for a number of years and thus completely "natural". So the conversations we're having in North America about it are a bit late to the game... ;) Personally I found it great. (Also, the restrooms were very clean, in part I think because people there were more conscious about being/keeping it clean) As an architect as well I've been thinking about how we might better design our restrooms to make them gender neutral like that, and there's a great model to steal from over there. :)
Of course it's natural. Go camping for example, nature doesn't discriminate.
A cleaning lady once told me that men's bathrooms get more dirty linearly. Women's bathrooms stay clean for longer, but once a certain threshold is crossed (when we have to start "hovering"), it gets really bad really fast.
I wonder how gender-neutral bathrooms would do in comparison.
I appreciate this video as a trans person who's starting to get nervous going into either gendered bathroom, haha. I had no idea building codes were so involved in how gender neutral the bathrooms could be in a building. Now I understand why every place in my state with two single-stall bathrooms still label them with "men" and "women". Interesting!
The bathrooms in my campus are all gender neutral, it has never been a problem to anyone
Actually last year when there was talk around gender neutral bathrooms in the university we just stood there, not realizing that most other campuses didn't have non gendered bathrooms
I don’t think every bathroom should be replaced with a gender Neutral bathroom I think there should be man woman and gender n/ bc I feel like it would be a terrible idea for woman and men if they have experienced sexual assault/abuse they may feel uncomfortable using the bathroom in the same room as the opposite gender I
The only sexual assault is women perving on men in the MEN'S room. Gender neutral eliminates this gender discrimination.
As someone in a similar situation, I agree with that. But having a gender natural bathroom is more money and I don't think every building would be ok with that.
@@saragemmer9553 ADDING a gender neutral restroom is indeed more money. But having ONLY gender neutral facilities is far less money. Not to mention, it would solve a number of problems. Men would no longer be sexually violated by random pervert women, and women would have shorter wait times in line (of course at the expense of men having to wait LONGER). But then again, women taking significantly more time is a choice. And since men's rooms are already gender neutral, then just make ALL restrooms gender neutral. Why should women be able to have an extra room exclusive to them, but men don't?
Yes! Single-user, accessible toilets. And also separate nursing areas for moms.
They are where I live and, wow, surprise surprise, no incidents, no scandals, no problems at all.
Good comment. I'm also in favour of them now, having been a bit reluctant initially. I think it'll be regarded as a fuss over nothing in the future.
Also the urinals are so bad- there are NEVER any dividers in-between. The only sense of privacy you have is hoping the person next to you isn’t gonna look at you and that’s it.
I think separating the hand wash areas from the toilet areas is the best way forward. Depending on the space, the toilets don't always need to be totally partitioned, and having the hand wash area separate allows for a more efficient number of sinks and also for being more gender neutral. I feel like most people wouldn't have a problem washing their hands next to one another regardless of gender as opposed to using the bathroom.
Its better that each toilet is combined with a small hand wash sink because accidents happen like you need to wash somethin in an emergency
There's more behind this gender neutral thing! The world has gone mad.
There are so many other issues with bathroom designs. There's a bathroom in Narita (Tokyo) airport that has unfortunately placed mirrors that give passers-by *outside* the bathroom a direct view through the doorway of the genitals of men at the urinals. Public urinals also usually have the unfortunate feature of having chromed pipes, meaning you have an omnidirectional mirror facing you during a most private activity. Gender-neutral bathrooms or not (and I'm all for them!), all urinals need dividers.
Also, there were weird windows into some of the bathrooms (and locker rooms) at my junior high that were accessible to all students. Not sure why.
I'm fairly tall, so I highly support having multiple levels of sinks if there are multiple. Many places have me stooping awkwardly to wash my hands.
I have a lot of opinions on public restrooms. Most are horribly designed and I could go on for a long time about them.
Yeah, and multi-level sinks would also help children and small people who have trouble reaching typical public sinks without a stool or other assistance
@@kevinwells9751 Absolutely, or for wheelchair-bound people. I get that low sinks are fine if there's just one in the bathroom to be accessible to the most people, but my university had some bathrooms where there was a row of 6 or so sinks at what felt like my knee height.
When will you upload again?
Soon 🙂
@@ARTiculations Great!
On of the buildings at my university (built in the 80s I believe) has gendered toilets, but no urinals in the men’s. This means (and I’ve confirmed with female friends) that the two toilets are exactly the same, and since it’s not the US all the stalls have full walls with lockable doors. I genuinely don’t understand why people would care about the toilets being gendered if literally the only time you’re seeing another person is when washing your hands?? I think there should just be two rooms, urinal rooms and proper toilets. That way any women who are uncomfortable with having urinals in their toilets wouldn’t have to worry about it, and anyone who was just peeing would have the option. I’ve seen this setup a few times mainly at large venues, and I think it works super well. Way less queueing for everyone and you don’t have to worry about two toilets in different places if you’re with a group and don’t want to get separated.
Yes absolutely…. But each toilet should be a little private room…
Why did you stop? This is such a cool channel
Didn’t stop just took a longer than expected break. Will upload again soon.
If it makes for a more efficiently designed bathroom that better uses resources, yes.
The world is slowly going insane.
My question is more to do with the unique design of American public bathrooms. Here, our stalls are more partial partitions with open spaces top in bottom. Many public bathrooms in Europe look like a series of toilet-filled closets. In the interest of encouraging gender neutral restrooms, that design would help with privacy concerns. So what are the reasons for the design difference?
Partial partitions are easier to clean, since you can just sweep and mop below them. They are also in general better for safety - for example if someone collapses in a stall it's easy for others to notice and promptly assist them. I do designs for healthcare facilities and generally they prefer partial partitions so they can more easily get to a patient who has collapsed. But of course the draw back is less privacy.
I believe the more open American style is cheaper and easier to install (less material, they tend to be made of plastic you can just screw together and bolt down, etc.)
Do the partial partitions in Europe also have the door/corner gaps that allow you to see through?
Also, I'm tall enough to see over most partial partitions...
yes we need gender neutral toiletss
Ewwww!!
I am for gender neutral bathrooms, but I would call them unisex instead and use WC signs instead of intergender ones
Please stop designing restrooms with no doors and super-quiet air conditioning.
Oops, wrong video. Where is the right video?
Oh yeah, down the hall, to the left...
If the partitions are fully enclosed, at least you won’t have to smell someone taking a poop or hear them fart.
individual toilets and common use washing areas
As long as the stall is unoccupied, I really could care less about who's in the stall next to me. That said, I'd have to say that growing up having watched Ally McBeal (side note, first time I've seen a video on gender neutral bathrooms without a mention/clip/image from the show) I guess I expected for there to be a lot more gender neutral toilets out there compared to the reality.
I thought the whole point of gender separated washrooms was to keep out perverts
I worked in a building with gender neutral washrooms, which featured a bank of fully separated toilet stalls and a common area for washing basins. The arrangement worked very well, and occupied less space. I prefer fully eparated toilets because they offered greater privacy. I've never liked the dividers used in most standard stalls, which generally have large spaces at the bottom and top, or listening to people doing their business.
Each fully separated toilet stall should have a small wash basin because sometimes accidents happen like you poop in your pants before been able to reach out the toilet and need to wash it
Such a difficult subject I personally don't mind, would of made life easier when my son was little and not having to worry that someone will judge that he shouldn't of come Into the women's with me but also couldn't leave him unsupervised, most of the time if available we would you the disabled toilets, but on another note there are gonna be unsavoury characters that will take advantage
If lots of toilets are needed I would prefer a smaller restroom with urinals for all who want to pee standing and one bigger room with lots of stalls, both for everyone who wants to use them and of course with enough basins to wash hands afterwards. If only a few toilets are required, then I would go for separate rooms with toilets, maybe some with urinals, and hand wash basins. And allways separate baby changing rooms with big waste bins, warm water taps and privacy.
I think this issue would be much less contentious in places like the United States if they had toilet stalls which provided ANY reasonable modicum of privacy. It's really silly and weird our toilet stalls don't go down so far, have huge gaps between the doors and the frame, etc.
I personally would be plenty happy with some properly-private toilet stalls coupled with a communal hand-washing area, AND more "family restrooms" for people with kids, caretakers, really shy bladders, etc.
I feel like they should just be a suggestion, you shouldn’t HAVE to go to the assigned bathroom because of your gender. There shouldn’t be a law against women using mens and mens using women it should just be a ‘most women use this one’ and ‘most men use this one’ type of thing
There's a nightclub in Leeds, UK that has gender neutral toilets. Disabled toilets are now open to all disabilities rather than wheelchair users.
As long as there are still urinals (not within single user rooms) then I don't care.
Talking about Brazil here. As a little girl I never found it fair that when I went out with my dad or grandpa, I had to go to the restroom by myself while lots of boys, even older than l was, could go to the lady's room with their mothers.
Not sure why, I've seen many fathers take little daughters into the men's room before.
Adults going into bathrooms to help monitor their children is a benefit?!?
Personally it dosen't bother me. I always seek out the most private secluded secret restroom in the building at low traffic hours because I can't make a deposit if someone else is in the room. My body freezes up because it knows somehow. Basically it makes 0 difference to me. Great vid!
If they do away with indecent exposure, by all means.
Just make the divider walls floor to cieling, that way there's no exposure in the first place. You don't even really have to have seperate big urinals depending on the design, that being the main concern. It's a design problem yeah, but there's many solutions.
Plus, honestly, men's rooms currently *already* could contain easy indecent exposure claims, couldn't they?
@@PilkScientist yep.
For men who just need to pee, a urinal can be far more convenient than a "sit down toilet".
So if there are like 20 or more toilets needed anyway, I think a seperate room with (a smaller number of) Urinals only and the rest being (fully seperated) unisex stalls would be the best option.
If there are only 3 or 4 toilets in total, I guess that doesn't make much sense (from the architect standpoint) though, so there you only get unisex stalls.
For people who don't like to go to the toilet near anyone from the opposite sex, I'd say they just need to grow up, as hard as that might be.
Also if all stalls are unisex, you don't get stared at for going there, unlike using the mens bathroom as a woman (or probably worse: the other way round!)...
Also I think as soon as people start using a gender-neutral bathroom they will realize how much of a non-issue it is to poop or pee near someone of the opposite gender (particularly if we started using better partitioned stalls)
@@kevinwells9751 Where I live, stalls are usually well seperated, unless they are older than I am... But reading through the other comments, I think that it would be necessary to change that in other parts of the world. If the door is only symbolic, aka waist high, I fully understand people not wanting someone from the opposite sex walking along!
Never saw any issues with unisex showers and toilets in co-ed dorms. I don't get why gendered toilets exist. It is like the last vestiges of segregation. It gets really difficult as a parent. Not so much when the kids are dependent and you take them and change them etc. But when they get a little older and they need some help but have gone to the opposite gendered toilet to the parent/carer who is with them it gets awkward.
I'm from a British city with a large population and a small amount of available space. As mentioned in the video pretty much all toilets in town are gender neutral these days. Some have a small sink inside the cubicle, some have a shared basin. I have never seen it cause any issue and i personally prefer it. The space is usually more private than a large single gendered bathroom.
They've always been around but they have gotten more common and better quality recently.
I mean your house has gender neutral bathrooms? It just seems so normal to me.
Where i went to college a long time ago they had moved around the toilets. Originally it was 2 mens upstairs, and 2 womens downstairs. They decided to switch it so there was one of each on each floor. But they hadn't taken out the urinals. I more than triple checked the door...
I remember my dad taking me into the mens as a child and it being a horrific experience. Certain public ones would reek. Doesn't seem to be as much of an issue anymore?
Also what i learned from going to music festivals is that men in general seem very disinterested in privacy =P .
In america, they added walls between urinals to provide more privacy. Sorry I’m not cool with another dude checking out my penis. I think most guys would agree unless they are homosexual.
Well on one hand I like my public toilets kept separate; Not having to line up for ten minutes to take a piss is one of the few benefits to being guy these days.
But on the other hand when I am running the building I like unisex bathrooms since it makes for cheaper construction and upkeep.
One single room, one toilet and a sink is how we have it at school and i prefer it that way. They Label them male n female and they are the exact same but they somehow managed to put more female toilets Than male toilets
Which is a bunch of crap. If the "male" toilets are occupied, why should a guy have to wait? There ought to be laws against gender discrimination!
I don't care which gender the bathroom is, as long as there is the correct plumbing, just give me fully partitioned stalls!!! It is insane the gaps in stalls in American bathrooms!!!
I'm male and the only thing I care about when doing my "business" is privacy. If gender neutral is more efficient, bring them in!
I'm a female and my experience is that men's restrooms are filthy. I'd rather keep them separated.
Im a helicopter pls i need a helipad on my workplace,
You're a knobhead is what you are
Penis bathrooms and sans penis bathrooms. I think the best option is urinal rooms, toilet 'stall' rooms, sink rooms and disabled/baby changing. Maybe we need to stop thinking of them as gender specific and more specific to the physical biology of human anatomy.
My university has been transitioning to gender neutral bathrooms in many spaces, but a new building has completely separate toilets and sinks like you'd expect in washroom for disabled. Which is great for menstrual cups. I understand shame at the workplace is a big hurdle for many people who menstruate, and I prefer disabled washrooms where available.
What about the boys bathroom?🤔
women who menstruate, not people who menstruate
While we’re at it, can we also have all stupid people stop procreating?
Love your stuff! I was terrified of the comments, but turns out I'm early! There are 2 as of typing. I'm nonbinary lol and I think in the US at least, our usual design is super unsanitary n socially uncomfortable.
There either needs to be more research into the sanitation and psychology or it needs to be way better applied. Among other things the current state of public male restrooms and changing tables are extremely disrespectful towards the user and just: gross.
My understanding is that, for optimal sanitation, toilets are supposed to be way separated from everything, including the sinks (I don't know for certain I'm a science person but I don't have a doctorate in sanitation lol). And I think (classical/widely liked) music or cheap soundproofing should be employed, not just for user satisfaction, but so the line goes faster because people are shy.
Fully partitioned bathrooms are top tier (and safer/cleaner to my understanding) and I think if they were standard, average quality of life would be higher lol, it's often such an afterthought in design, nothing that important should ever be! I also think people are less likely to intentionally reck a nice restroom.
So: nice, fully partitioned toilets with like, a floor button/something that you don't have touch with your hands to get out to get to the sink area that has space to spruce up is my current optimal alternative idea for relatively practical public restrooms for buildings that currently have around 5 + female stalls in America. Those would be gender-neutral by nature but some additional, optional, more gender-segregated facilities might be necessary for some people/situations. A small, partially partitioned section for changing clothes would also be great. Disabled people should be able to work with designers in having the final say about the codes for them in this situation.
If a place has the resources, they should strive for the best bathrooms within reason for the sake of customer satisfaction and straight up morals.
(note: Most places where I say "I think" There might be specific data to back it up, that I might have but I don't want to mislead you just in case, I'm not gonna double check all my sources for this particular UA-cam comment lol and from my experience researching that or similar subjects, it's very likely to be the case, I'm not claiming that the stuff I'm talking about is necessarily a matter of opinion.)
Love the hands-free door operation idea.
I have mixed feelings on this one. I work at a gas station with two identical washrooms, with gender specific signage. It’s not a rare event for me to find the men’s room has urine all over the toilet seat because some men (a) don’t know they should lift the seat before urinating, and (b) can’t aim their urine stream. I wouldn’t want some of the ladies to have to clean the seat before using the toilet. On the other hand we sometimes direct customers to the “wrong” washroom when theirs is closed for some reason or is occupied and the customer is getting urgent.
One detail I would love to see adopted in Canada is locks which display “vacant” or “occupied” signs on the outside of the door depending on the status of the lock inside. I grew up with that back in the fourties’ and fifties when I was a child in England.
In Seattle, a LOT of the bathrooms were ALL gender neutral. The three options weren’t offered. It was frustrating being aa tourist and having to navigate the rivers of piss on the floor and toilet seat. If all the bathrooms are going to be gender neutral then men MUST start peeing sitting down. It really feels like we,re going back to to the days when there were no pubic bathrooms for women.
@@tabkaliO Wow, sounds like you live in the mentally retarded part of town. Either that, or you're fabricating stories. I can't remember the last time I experienced ANY wet seat, much less a flood of urine everywhere. But I CAN say that the toilet seat in portable toilets have often been wet right after being used by a WOMAN!
Well it's not really biological that women take longer in the bathroom I've seen women doing their make up, helping their child or children and or are just dorking around in there.
The biological need refers to the fact that women usually sit down to urinate which takes longer than standing up. Also menstruation takes longer to clean up. Additionally breastfeeding and taking care of children are biological related tasks.
@@ARTiculations Brushing one's teeth is also a biological related task, but that's not what this is about. Women can, and many DO stand to urinate. As for dropping your drawers, it adds mere seconds to the process which can easily be countered by the fact that it takes women LESS time to urinate than it does men.
I am nonbinary and prefer women's restroom if I must choose; it tends to be way cleaner. The times I have used the men's room, I just about gagged on the smell alone 🤢. I also have cleaned bathrooms in my past and the men's was usually dirtier than the women's.
If there is a gender neutral bathroom but it is also considered as the wheelchair accessible one, I don't like using them. I have family with physical disabilities and I know secondhand how important those bathrooms are to them.
One time, I went in the men's room because I had to wash my hands and I had my little cousin in tow. One of those kids you need eyes on at all times. As we were walking out of the bathroom, my uncle was on his way in. He started to have an internal brain meltdown, 😡 "you're not gonna be in the bathroom when I'm in there!" well, I was on my way out anyways so no worries. He yelled at me while walking away.... At an indoor horse arena. So embarrassing! The horses, judges, the audience, the echoey tin can of a building. I dipped out FAST!
"As cis white male, I really don't give a fuuuuuuuuck. Just don't be offended when I push too hard at the urinal and let out a mean fart." - John F. Kennedy
One reason that men’s bathrooms are emptier is urinals. (They are definitely spatially and functionally efficient) At stadiums these are often just a stainless steel wall that the men stand at. I am not convinced this is the space for a woman to feel comfortable 😅
I grew up in China where the women’s bathroom is just a trough on the floor. Everyone goes in the open. It’s certainly not desirable but you deal with it when you have to go lol.
@@ARTiculations Wow that's hectic hahaha. But when you think of urinals or 'troughs' (insert sweat-laughing emoji) it becomes more clear why mixing won't really work. Imagine the stage fright XD
@@ARTiculations In the jungle, the tribe members simply take a dump right out in the open. So guess allowing people to defecate on the streets should be ok. Just "deal with it"...
yes, my vote is for more unisex / gender neutral bathrooms. They are more private.
Why all the fuzz over a colour on the wall, a sign on the door and the urinal.
A compromize could just be writing toilet on the door then no one gets offended.
Dear trans people, this is a genuine question which is not supposed to be offensive. Would you be okay with an extra restroom just for yourself? This way, I think, it's possible to keep women's privacy inside the ladies' room, and you would have another restroom for yourselves. Of course, this would increase the taxes because someone has to pay for those extra restrooms but I can't think of a better idea to satisfy everybody (either cis or transsexual).
My guess is perhaps just adding a single-person/family/all gender restroom would be good, for public buildings that exceed a certain number of occupants.
Honestly it doesn’t matter to me because you all go to the same thing
Not all toilets necessarily, but there needs to always be the option available
But wait a minute, isn't every stall a single use restroom?
Single use is loud a bathroom in your house and public is a room with multiple stalls
I don't mind having one bathroom everyone can share, (Unisex) just have longer partitions that's all.
How would gender neutral toilets remove the problem of lines outside women's toilets? If anything it'd mean all toilets would have long lines. Which kinda feels lkle spite, like if the women gotta wait in the lines, then the men do too.
Like you don't mention how urinals are what help men's time in bathrooms speed along. Guessing they'd have to go gender neutral toilets.
U r crazy
Having visited countries where gender neutral bathrooms are the norm, I like them as there are hardly ever lines. I get frustrated with American toilets having partial partitions and locks that don’t indicate if they are locked or not, and I often wish we would “catch up” in that regard.
Historically, the creation of separate bathrooms originated in the early years when women began leaving the home and hearth and started working in factories where there had been only one toilet. Women ended up getting assaulted behind closed doors by the men in the factory. Women tried to cope by dehydrating themselves and trying to hold it during a 12 hour shift. They resorted to relieving themselves in the streets as a group, each taking turns hiding within a circle of women's long skirts. (As did the pioneer women of covered wagon times, in the late 1800's when the open prairies afforded women no privacy in a wagontrain of dozens of other familiies.) Only when it was "taken to the streets" did anyone notice the need for separate bathrooms.
Sadly, the only ones pushing for gender neutral bathrooms are men or young naive women who haven't yet experienced a significant assault.
Keep separate bathrooms! Offer more "family bathrooms" . Surely someone out there could come up with a smaller more streamlined toilet/sink/wash system (as on planes) to save space in order to create more of them.
It is almost exclusively WOMEN who are pushing for gender neutral restrooms for men only! As for your "women getting assaulted by men" comment, you make it sound like it was some sort of epidemic. I have NEVER heard any such thing, and I've been around the block a few times. Do you have any source to back such claim?
Its segregation. Men and women segregated bathrooms are that....segregation
I don't see any possibility for issues here.
No urinals for men and leavijg women feeling unsafe
@@extraextraxtraterrestialah8794 You are absolutely right. I mean, I don't see at all how people can have a problem with the label on the toilet.
I really wish there were more gender neutral washrooms. Not only is that a big queer rights win, but also like you mentioned the lines won’t be so bad anymore.
the lines will be worse... are you kidding?
I'm all for gender neutral toilets. I've used them in various places.
Although you can't ignore the fact that urinals take up less space, and serve the needs of most male toilet requirements. Maybe there could be a separate room with just urinals, leading back to the washing facilities of course!
I get that this will annoy some women, as they wouldn't be able to use these and it takes us back to the unfair situation. I don't have an answer to that. But if the urinals weren't there (or were replaced by only one or two more toilets) then the queue would be even longer! Tricky...
On a separate, but related note... I think there should be two handles on the exit door. One labelled for people who have washed their hands, and the other labelled for those who haven't. I wonder if anyone would use the latter? 😉
That last paragraph though... lol
From what I know, using the handle is the best option for bacteriophobes, because everybody somehow assumes they are *the only one* with the glorious idea of pushing the door 30cm above the handle, rather than using the "dirty" handle, which 100% of the other people obviously use! The result being, that the handle ends up the cleanest part of a door, because nobody uses it. :-P
Noooo such a great channel
Not to make this all about gay ppl / trans ppl but the bathrooms can be VERYY homophobic. What are they supposed to do-