i don't expect anyone to see this comment, but i'm from poland and yes it is true that the age of consent is 15 however most people don't really respect people relations where a teen is with a grown ass adult so no, it is not weird for you to say that this relation is fucked up
I thought for a second that it's like in Germany in the other countries with pretty low age of consent thingies. Because here in Germany it's 14. But with a few additions. You can date and consent when you're 14 as long as whoever you do it with is 18 or younger. Before you turn 14 you can do the same, but I believe you can only if it isn't a too large age gap, I think it was like max 2 years. So basically it's legal for an 18 years to date a 14 year old till the 18 year old turns 19.i believed it was the same for Poland and so too, but I guess nit
Where I live, its 14. It's a backward country in many aspects, but you're still considered a creep is you're well over 18 and dating someone suspiciously younger.
I seriously don't give a shit if they're in the age of consent. Dating and etc with a fucking minor as an adult is disgusting. Go date adults your age, not little kids.
THIS IS WHAT IM SAYING!!! why they can't date someone same as their age?? few years younger or older than them???? Just not minors or even 18 years old!!!
I got into her content on YT shorts but never really got into her tiktok videos or anything beyond that so I knew her catwalk imitations etc and that’s really it. So when she dropped Fashion I liked it and then quickly forgot about it so when all this news dropped, that was my hell of a reminder that she existed 😅💀
Just to inform the previous creator wasnt wrong, as someone from poland- the age of consent being 16 means that 16 year olds will not be in legal trouble for having intercourse with other 16 year olds, the legal age being 18 means relationships with older people being legal
Yeah, but for some fucked up reason, people think the age of consent means that predators are allowed to get into a relationship with 16-17 year olds. Absolutely crazy
right… age of consent is supposed to be for children of the same age group. Within at least 3 years (16-18) since it’s common to date people in other year groups. It’s for their protection not for weirdos way above of school age
Age of consent is for minors that are in the same age range, it doesn't justify or protect adults who attempt to use it as an excuse to date minors. The Romeo and Juliet laws are for the next step up, where they were both minors at the time of dating, but then one ages up to 18 (While the other is still 16-17)
Thank you! Romeo and Juliet laws are so two high school classmates who have sex don’t end up with the older one in jail for statutory rape because they happen to be a couple months older and just turned 18. Which otherwise yeah. That’s considered a crime when we can all agree that’s just a bit dumb, teenagers should be able to have relationships with people around their age without worrying about legality getting them in trouble. Full grown adults on the other hand? Full on creep behavior going for someone under 18 (or honestly even over 18, everyone knows you’d go younger if you’re dating someone freshly 18 and only are stopping because of the law)
I'm the same age and this is why I don't really date in my college anymore, most of the guys there are like 18 lol. Even that seems like too much of an age gap so it's crazy how so many UA-camrs are getting caught dating/flirting with literal kids. Also off topic but omg BEOMHAN PFP
Same, the headspace difference between being 18,19, and 20 is SO different. It might not seem that way, but until you actually LIVE through those changes, it won’t make sense. I get you dude!
I’m glad we’re calling out predators. This weekend I’m going to the fair with friends / family and I have to meet my nephews (in law) girlfriend who is 25 and they’ve been dating since he was 16, he’s now just turned 18. 🤦🏻♀️ Of course he thinks he’s so cool but obviously we all know it’s not okay, it’s weird and grooming. What do adults have in common with teenagers?! NOTHING.
You need to call that out LOUDLY. Don't whisper it. It's a 100 percent wrong. And many men don't understand that because society makes them think it's cool to be groomed
@@KaysonAmethyst in all seriousness I hope he opens his eyes one day, she is so disgusting and clearly desperate to prey upon a child. I hope he stays safe. All my support sis🤍
Russian here, age of consent is 16 for people in relationships where one person is at least 16, and the other is 18 max. Even if the older person is 19, if the younger is 16 or 17, it would be a crime. There's a special window there
I know right, kinda wish we could revoke their trans cards for setting the movement back like this Even a minuscule amount of predatory trans people will in their minds prove they were right, even if it means ignoring the overwhelming amount of cis-het child predators 😒
as a trans person (ftm) it’s so exhausting watching people ignore the countless other cis pedophiles exposed this year to focus on the trans ones to try to demonize trans people, these people literally care more about demonizing a group of people than the victims
Do you mean because she flew him out, & if she flew here to NZ, where 16 is the age of consent, it would be legal? Hmmmm... legally his parents flew him out alone (parental permission under the law) & he is still a NZ citizen, so technically nothing illegal happened... It's gross- I would never touch a child- & at my age 30 is a child, but rich yt boy has yt parents... I'm not his rich yt parents- they approved, the boy wants it, it's not illegal...
@@punkybrewstar83erm are justifying grooming because it literally just re worded “ pred paid for a flight just to diddle with a minor” also age of consent and age of consent for s**ual acts is different. We get it you like Britney we get it you want to be “well it wasn’t right but the way they did it was” also normal people don’t say “I would never touch a kid” like yeah hopefully nobody would but clearly that has to be a coping mechanism for you because you talked about how it was wrong but his methods were right? Like word?
Mostly the rich/ those with influence. They get the smallest bit off power, and it gets to their heads. Now they think they're immune to everything. It's not even like half of them GENUINELY want to diddle little kids. They like the innocence of young people/ kids, and the power they have to ruin that, and do whatever they want. It's people drunk of power, and having zero empathy. So tired of celebs and influencers who think they can do anything they want 🙄
@Tinky35 I'd definitly recommend you do a deepdive on Pedophilia. I unfortunately know alot on the topic because I was engaged to the man that groomed me at 13 and learnt alot about his issues and recognization of being attracted to kids while still being a kid yourself let alone adult pedophilia and the psychology behind it. Very sad but insightful to know! It's so common unfortunately especially in family's with a history of it. My ex..if you could call him that. Both his older brothers and an uncle were in jail for child sex crimes. Anyways. A recommended sad Deepdive if you are interested lol
As a person from Russia, I can explain how it works in my country, I think the same thing happens in Poland. Yeah, the age of consent is 16, but the person is still underage and an adult can't have any sexual relationship with them. If they do and people knows about it, local policemen will be really interested why would an adult to have sex with a kid, there still will be an investigation and so on until the teen is confirm the fact that they were agree. The same goes with a teen pregnancy. As soon as the girl in the hospital, doctors report about teen pregnancy and then, obviously, an investigation is started. So nope, 17 and 28 is not legal in Russia for sure
damn, i always liked asteria seperately and liked some of brit’s songs, never knew they were even friendly outside of a collab, lol. really disappointing to see a person i liked come out as a predator, especially since she’s trans like me and helped me feel not so weird about it personally. it’s not even shocking anymore that people are being outed as predators, it’s just gross and disappointing: why can’t normal adult human beings just stop liking children? anyways, thanks for shining some light on this, wouldn’t have realised brit’s a disgusting otherwise.
i live in poland and yeah, the age of consent is 15 but everyone is shady and weirded out when it comes to teen-adult relationships, and at least around me, when an adult is dating someone below the age of 18 it’s treated as borderline p3d0 behavior
19:40 oh my god THANK YOU. ive always felt this way but ive never seen anyone say anything about it. Thank you for saying this because people censoring it like that really downplays the severity of how horrible it is and almost sugarcoats it
What I think is worse is that we need to censor the word rape…sure saying something like “i will r_pe you” is wrong and shouldn’t be said…but like talking about someone being raped or that SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE CALLED OUT I hate how censored social media is coming to calling out predators
my hatred for these censor words is based on what you said, but also to a much smaller degree, I'm starting to hear children use phrases like "unalive" as a synonym for dead which i guess is correct but it just sounds so stupid 😂
age of consent isn't so adults can hurt / touch kids... its for people under 18 to do things with other people under 18. why do people still get this confused 😭
The age gap literally reminds me of Demi Lovato's song 29 that literally talks about the EXACT SAME age gap relationship they had with someone when they were 17 and he was 29 and like. In it, they literally talk about how traumatizing and messed up that relationship was- I have a feeling Asteria will have similar thoughts and feelings once he is 29. Getting older tends to change ones perspective, given the right resources and freedom from the initial situation, of course.
Also some added context for asterias age and the public perception of this before he turned 18: Before he turned 18 there was a huge rumor going around that he was 24, it was so big EVERY birthday site up until the day of his 18th birthday said he was 24. So people weren't reacting accordingly because we all thought he was near Britney's age.
Fr, every time I see a video exposing a groomer that happens to be trans, I always have to like cross my fingers and hope they don’t mention something about it cause then the comments will go absolutely bonkers about it so I really appreciate that He didn’t mention anything about it🙏
I think it adds context. Psychologically/socially, they were raised as a male, who outnumber biologically female predators by a longshot. There is nothing wrong that she is trans but what is wrong is to leave out information because it doesn't look good for that particular group of people. The same as if a afab women was predatory but left out that fact because we don't want afab women to look bad.
@majonezowekrolestwo3654 probably because they don't want a bad name for their group. But honestly, it shouldn't be hidden so that these people should be accountable by their own people. Like, if a biological man or woman is called out for heinous sexual crimes and be shamed for it, why not the other groups?
@@tkraid2575bc there's already an incorrect stigma about trans people being predators (mostly around hrt) and people with no brain cells will use this as an argument to say "all trans people are predators, see right here you have your examples!!" And further the stigma. It's already hard enough for trans people as it is, my best friend is just in the beginning stages of accepting she's trans and hopefully we live in a progressive country so most people are accepting but she's from a very christian family, transitioning and being trans is already hard enough as it is, no need to make it even harder for those that have to deal with it. Plus, predators and creeps are predators and creeps no matter the gender. There are plenty of creepy women, but most sexual crimes committed by women whether it's towards people who are underaged or not are extremely underreported due to again, the STIGMA that men face when speaking up against what they were put through. Sure gender plays a huge factor as just stated previously but predators are predators no matter what
As a 29 year old women the thought of dating a 17 year old is DISGUSTING. In that same breath I was also a 17 year old who dated a 27 year old and look back thinking that was fucked up. . .
So so SOOOOOO happy someone is talking about this issue. Especially happy it's you because I know you put the proper time and research into your videos.
Idc if the age of consent is 15, 16 or whatever, it wouldn't be so concerning if they were at least a couple of years apart but 11 YEARS, an almost 30 year old doesn't have anything to do with a teenager
so, here's how age of consent in russia works: you become a legal adult (can drink/vote/drive etc.) at 18, but the age of consent is 16 EXCEPT WHEN THE OTHER PARTY IS OVER 18, then such contact is criminal (unless they'll married which is a whole another story)
Even think about the song BFM that Asteria and Britney sang together. The lyrics even imply something romantic between them. (Asteria: "This ho she really want me" Britney: "And he can't get enough of me" Asteria: "I'm posted up in the club with Britney") I really love this genre, and Britney was one of my favs. I'm so disgusted and appalled. Like is it really that hard to not like someone underage???
crazy how Asteria came out with a diss song "FBM" (fuck britney manson) recently 😂its just a slightly changed version of BFM except instead of "Its Britney f*cking Manson" its "F*ck Britney Manson" and it features 6arelyhuman at the start
Oh, damn, I thought they were scene core- 😭 Admittedly, I’m genuinely confused about the genre of music they make, since they seem to emphasize (along with their other collaborators) that they’re scene…. But I’ve seen arguments that mention they’re really just scene-core if anything…. So idfk anymore….
@@l.__.c4s they are scenecore, but that probably still falls under the edm or pop umbrella. it's easier to call them that so people who aren't chronically online still get it lol
@@l.__.c4s hey man, totally fine to case him as scene, but scene is often more sped up type of beats that talk about drgs, alchohol and breakups (or love ig?) id put his music as more of EDM or even party music, 6arelyhuman7 could be considered scenecore put most people in their circle couldnt, their music is clearly inspired by scene while i dont get the inspo or the vibe of scene into asteria's music i get how people could make the connection, scene is 2000s party music, upbeat with often dark and/or edgy lyrics, EDM is music for party goers, something you just put on and vibe
i know i already commented but i seriously do not understand what ur comment is saying, it sounds like you saying the women who get sexually assaulted dont sexually assault people? which that’s definitely not true, especially considering the fact that britney herself mentions she’s a rape victim
Fr there was this guy I met on discord and he would flirt 18 year old females including me cause according to him we are in our peaked years for looks and for fertility and he’s 32 btw 💀 and he said its not weird
Clearly, we're all having an issue of understanding what age of consent is... The age of consent is the legal age the courts will say that you can consent anyone younger than that legally can not consent to sexual relations of any kind even kissing... adults are not allowed to sleep with minors that's statutory r*pe... I don't understand how people do not understand this when I was 16 and legally in a court of law I was allowed to consent does not mean that the 29year old man who had sexual relations with me was allowed to do that.... he's a p#dophile and I was assaulted even tho I was capable of consent...
There are rules that every parent should stuck into their kids heads from a very young age - adults and kids can't be friends - adults can't have secrets with kids - adults can't make plans with kids without talking to their parents first And the best and easiest way to explain it to for example a rebelious teenager is: "Grownups are too mature to spend time with children. The only reason why some adults choose to hang out with kids is because they are weird and other adults don't like them, so they target kids because kids don't recognize what a *weird adult* is like"
6:33 "No I don't care about Marilyn Manson." I mean, that creep has enough allegations against him you could probably make a video 3 times as long as this one. I think the surname is cursed, at least as far as musicians (or attempted musicians in Charles' case) are concerned.
(Not comparing) In Nigeria its 11 In Japan it used to be 13 In France it's 15 In US it's 16 (I think) There's no age of consent in Yemen Wtf is happening 😭 (Srry if sum r wrong)
All I knew about Britney Manson was that they were a transgender female and aspiring model. I’ve seen a tonne of clips where Britney and friends demonstrate different style runway walks out in public and inside apartment with the hopes of being scouted by a modeling agency. I’m also from NZ, the age of consent here is 16 but is it weird and all round inappropriate? YES!
major sticky drama/BOTDF vibes emanating from them all.. At the end of the day, that “music scene” is such an accurate throwback to the worst parts of 2007-2011 and the vibes emanating from it are gross. 10:15 top tier actually
I used to like her music since it reminded me a lot of early 2000s but after this whole thing I genuinely feel disgusted even listening to her because of her actions like come on, can’t people just like people their own age 😭💀
I’m 35 in about a week and I can get along with teens and people in their 20s but in no way does the idea of being romantic and crushing on someone under the age of 29 cross my mind. Ever. WHAT THE HECK WOULD WE EVEN HAVE IN COMMON?! My ex was 6 years my junior and omg we NEVER had anything to relate on. EVER.
The part when she said "We broke up when it was his bday" gives a HUGE hint that she's a groomer, and did she say "how old is odetari" 😭 ODETARI IS MARRIED
I personally feel like in countries where the age of consent is 16, I personally think that if the other person is above the age of 18 then it should be considered p*dophilia, because I feel like a 16 and 18 yr old have/ can have similar interests and are of similar mental maturity, but as soon as the person is above 20 then there is a power dynamic where the older person has more power because they are more mentally mature
@@auroraborealiiss not true :) People faked a bunch of things, which have been proven to be fake. But unfortunately most people just saw the fake evidence, and not the debunking of it. And that's not the only case I've seen. There are other people who have come out with sketchy stuff
@@sad_artwork an ex friend of timothy leaked convo between her and timothy (when the allegations first came out) talking about how jealous timothy was of melanie, and how she wanted to be famous too
Before any screenshots came out, I saw an asteria x britney post and I was like "oh wait isn't he like 18?" And then I googled it. Both their ages were public back then.
As a 17 year old, I avoid most people older than me. I have a singular school friend who's older than me. The only older people I hang out with are my older sister's friends, and ONLY while she is there. I can't imagine hanging out with an older person, let alone DATING THEM.
0:54 my dumb American brain immediately saw those measurements in inches & thought "omg,that's huge!!!". Oh lord,I've been watching non-US tubers for too long to slip up like that 😂. Ok,continuing.......
Oof this literally reminds me of the song by Demi Lovato 29 It’s literally about how fucked it was that she dated a 29 yr old when she was 17, and now that demi is 29 it just shows how fucked it is Hope the guy realized how fucked it is
I feel like there should be an additional clause in the age of consent laws that limit it to being within a certain age range (if there isn't already) because yeah a 16 year old can probably consent with another teenager but someone who's nearly 30 should still be illegal
legality is important, but in some cases not enough to protect younger people or even children the age of consent in my country is 14 (which is really fucked up i know) so it's useless to bring up laws to protect 15 y/o from predators for example (and it used to be worse) thank you for bringing morality up in this discussion lol as obvious as it sounds, for some reason unfortunately people seem to cling only on laws and forget to talk about how this is essentially wrong. it gives me a weird vibe like "so if it wasn't illegal it would be ok?"
Hi, I'm from New Zealand. The age of consent here is 16, but that just means you don't need to get legal parental consent to get freaky (nobody does anyway, because if you're 14 and doing it you're sure not telling your parents about it, but also if you're under 16 and doing it with someone it means that legal action could be taken, if someone chose to pursue that option). You are still considered a minor until you turn 18 though. So yes, this is a weird relationship. I hope Asteria is okay, I remember who I was when I was 16-17 and I would have been so susceptible. I was talking to 20-26 year old men online when i was 13-16 because I got groomed, I didn't know, I just thought it was exciting and naughty. It was grooming. Even after I turned 16, when I was talking to older guys, that was still grooming. And though it wasn't technically illegal, it's still way too large of an age gap for someone that young. if you're 28 you can date someone 38, but there's so much growth people go through in your 20s that I would find it weird if a 28 year old went for anyone under 22, if a 24 year old went for anyone under 21, if a 22 year old went for anyone under 20, and if a 20 year old went for anyone under 18 (assuming you were not in a relationship with them before you turned 20). It's an exponential curve, so 28 and 17 is WAYYYY too young.
Just to clear it up, the legal age in Russia and Poland is 18, but the age of restriction is 16 and the legal age in New Zealand is 20 so she is still gross.
There has gotta be a curse for the last name Manson istg 😭
Thats what i think too 😭
Marilyn
Marilyn
Thank god my friend's name is Sonnman
DEADASS
i don't expect anyone to see this comment, but i'm from poland and yes it is true that the age of consent is 15 however most people don't really respect people relations where a teen is with a grown ass adult so no, it is not weird for you to say that this relation is fucked up
I thought for a second that it's like in Germany in the other countries with pretty low age of consent thingies. Because here in Germany it's 14. But with a few additions. You can date and consent when you're 14 as long as whoever you do it with is 18 or younger. Before you turn 14 you can do the same, but I believe you can only if it isn't a too large age gap, I think it was like max 2 years. So basically it's legal for an 18 years to date a 14 year old till the 18 year old turns 19.i believed it was the same for Poland and so too, but I guess nit
Where I live, its 14. It's a backward country in many aspects, but you're still considered a creep is you're well over 18 and dating someone suspiciously younger.
I m in Poland and half Polish and I have no desire to date a 15 year old. Legal does not equal moral. 😮
@@Manac0r3This right here is the comment I was gonna type but you beat me to it
Yeah but there is a little note in our polish law, the person that is 15 cant have sex with person that is older than 18 or something like that
I. AM. TIRED. Leave the children alone please 🙏🏼
THIS. Nowhere feels safe anymr.
@@_Iemonboy. literally nowhere is safe atp. Everyone you don’t expect you should suspect apparently 🤦🏽♀️
Deal with it 🖕🏼
Same
@@gabrielfrost9134 🚨predator alert🚨
this is the worst year to be underage
This year is a blast to expose predators, in a world that will keep enabling, protecting them and hide them in plain sight. But i digress. 🙄 💅
these kids ain't safe
ong, so great i turned 18 this year💀
NEXT YEAR WE SAFE
@@-cookieberries-300😭
Will never understand why you would choose to be with an underage person, if you're an adult. it's saddening.
Exactly
Power & control
It’s not sad, it’s pathetic and embarrassing
I'm 21 and would never consider a 17, the fact is she is reaching 30
A main factor is abuse
I seriously don't give a shit if they're in the age of consent. Dating and etc with a fucking minor as an adult is disgusting. Go date adults your age, not little kids.
People be normalising having relationships with people like 8yrs younger it’s just wrong
THAT'S what I don't get, like what's wrong with dating adults instead of minors? 😭🙏
THIS IS WHAT IM SAYING!!! why they can't date someone same as their age?? few years younger or older than them???? Just not minors or even 18 years old!!!
It’s always the Mansons
I know 😔
team mansons blasting off again
hexed surname fr
So true
it sucks that FASHION was such a good song, now i cant even listen to it without knowing this..
For real, I would try listening to like the sped up or slow down versions that way you’re not directly helping her to profit from your listening
That song was horrible ngl
@@jx2287 it gets old fast but for like a week I liked it
britney sucks at writing songs. her lyrics are terrible and her word choices dont fit. they always sound like shes trying to cram too many words in
I got into her content on YT shorts but never really got into her tiktok videos or anything beyond that so I knew her catwalk imitations etc and that’s really it. So when she dropped Fashion I liked it and then quickly forgot about it so when all this news dropped, that was my hell of a reminder that she existed 😅💀
Just to inform the previous creator wasnt wrong, as someone from poland- the age of consent being 16 means that 16 year olds will not be in legal trouble for having intercourse with other 16 year olds, the legal age being 18 means relationships with older people being legal
Yeah, but for some fucked up reason, people think the age of consent means that predators are allowed to get into a relationship with 16-17 year olds. Absolutely crazy
@@DarwinRoger893REAL
right… age of consent is supposed to be for children of the same age group. Within at least 3 years (16-18) since it’s common to date people in other year groups. It’s for their protection not for weirdos way above of school age
@@thirstaefortae5057Thanks for clarifying, laws should actually go into detail.
@@thirstaefortae5057 *at most, not at least ^^
Age of consent is for minors that are in the same age range, it doesn't justify or protect adults who attempt to use it as an excuse to date minors. The Romeo and Juliet laws are for the next step up, where they were both minors at the time of dating, but then one ages up to 18 (While the other is still 16-17)
PREACH! Some people in the comment section are justifying grooming and abuse
Exactly!
Thank you! Romeo and Juliet laws are so two high school classmates who have sex don’t end up with the older one in jail for statutory rape because they happen to be a couple months older and just turned 18. Which otherwise yeah. That’s considered a crime when we can all agree that’s just a bit dumb, teenagers should be able to have relationships with people around their age without worrying about legality getting them in trouble. Full grown adults on the other hand? Full on creep behavior going for someone under 18 (or honestly even over 18, everyone knows you’d go younger if you’re dating someone freshly 18 and only are stopping because of the law)
i saw the thumbnail and just the name britney and got scared this was about britney spears 😭
My 2 almost cried
I swear I screamed "BRITNEY NOOO!" till I read the Manson
Fr. I love her and I can’t live without her music or her perfume
same😭
I first saw this situation from Louis, it’s good to see someone else bringing it up too now!
BIG UP LOUIS
Agreed!! I love them both too :D
If we talk about the same Louis, the Jojo bizarre adventure lover, same! (:
SO DID I!! I LUV LOUIS AND DANKY !!!
I'm 22 and I won't even date someone younger than me. It feels so weird to me.
same it's already such a difference in mentality and maturity, these people be predators fr
I'm the same age and this is why I don't really date in my college anymore, most of the guys there are like 18 lol. Even that seems like too much of an age gap so it's crazy how so many UA-camrs are getting caught dating/flirting with literal kids.
Also off topic but omg BEOMHAN PFP
@starlithoney not even 19 or 20 year olds?
Same, the headspace difference between being 18,19, and 20 is SO different. It might not seem that way, but until you actually LIVE through those changes, it won’t make sense. I get you dude!
@cupidscomer378 18 to 20 isn’t a huge difference, I’m 19 and I’m with a 21 year old, last time I checked, that’s ok cause I’m an adult
I’m glad we’re calling out predators. This weekend I’m going to the fair with friends / family and I have to meet my nephews (in law) girlfriend who is 25 and they’ve been dating since he was 16, he’s now just turned 18. 🤦🏻♀️ Of course he thinks he’s so cool but obviously we all know it’s not okay, it’s weird and grooming. What do adults have in common with teenagers?! NOTHING.
Wait wtf. Just walk behind her and every now and then cough “p3do” under your breath 😭😭😭😭
You need to call that out LOUDLY. Don't whisper it. It's a 100 percent wrong. And many men don't understand that because society makes them think it's cool to be groomed
@@pinkrebellionxyz1567 LOL 😂 I will
@@KaysonAmethyst in all seriousness I hope he opens his eyes one day, she is so disgusting and clearly desperate to prey upon a child. I hope he stays safe. All my support sis🤍
@@pinkrebellionxyz1567 Me too and thank you! 💖
Russian here, age of consent is 16 for people in relationships where one person is at least 16, and the other is 18 max. Even if the older person is 19, if the younger is 16 or 17, it would be a crime. There's a special window there
trans community after gaining more and more respect from people just for it to be ruined by ava and brittney:
yup that true
Not true. As a matter of fact, it's a fallacy.
right
I know right, kinda wish we could revoke their trans cards for setting the movement back like this
Even a minuscule amount of predatory trans people will in their minds prove they were right, even if it means ignoring the overwhelming amount of cis-het child predators 😒
as a trans person (ftm) it’s so exhausting watching people ignore the countless other cis pedophiles exposed this year to focus on the trans ones to try to demonize trans people, these people literally care more about demonizing a group of people than the victims
she doesn’t even know how to groom correctly 😭🙏
Do you mean because she flew him out, & if she flew here to NZ, where 16 is the age of consent, it would be legal? Hmmmm... legally his parents flew him out alone (parental permission under the law) & he is still a NZ citizen, so technically nothing illegal happened...
It's gross- I would never touch a child- & at my age 30 is a child, but rich yt boy has yt parents... I'm not his rich yt parents- they approved, the boy wants it, it's not illegal...
@@punkybrewstar83 yeah, but its... weird.
@@punkybrewstar83erm are justifying grooming because it literally just re worded “ pred paid for a flight just to diddle with a minor” also age of consent and age of consent for s**ual acts is different. We get it you like Britney we get it you want to be “well it wasn’t right but the way they did it was” also normal people don’t say “I would never touch a kid” like yeah hopefully nobody would but clearly that has to be a coping mechanism for you because you talked about how it was wrong but his methods were right? Like word?
@@punkybrewstar83 still frowned upon, whether or not it’s legal :/
That's a man tho?
Convinced everyone is into kids now
Mostly the rich/ those with influence. They get the smallest bit off power, and it gets to their heads. Now they think they're immune to everything.
It's not even like half of them GENUINELY want to diddle little kids. They like the innocence of young people/ kids, and the power they have to ruin that, and do whatever they want.
It's people drunk of power, and having zero empathy.
So tired of celebs and influencers who think they can do anything they want 🙄
"Well, you know what they say. If you can't beat 'em, join 'em." - Bugs Bunny
@Tinky35 I'd definitly recommend you do a deepdive on Pedophilia.
I unfortunately know alot on the topic because I was engaged to the man that groomed me at 13 and learnt alot about his issues and recognization of being attracted to kids while still being a kid yourself let alone adult pedophilia and the psychology behind it. Very sad but insightful to know! It's so common unfortunately especially in family's with a history of it. My ex..if you could call him that. Both his older brothers and an uncle were in jail for child sex crimes.
Anyways. A recommended sad Deepdive if you are interested lol
well,thery'e not.Don't know where you got that disgusting idea from.
@@Tinky35 i think thats one of the best explanations
As a person from Russia, I can explain how it works in my country, I think the same thing happens in Poland. Yeah, the age of consent is 16, but the person is still underage and an adult can't have any sexual relationship with them. If they do and people knows about it, local policemen will be really interested why would an adult to have sex with a kid, there still will be an investigation and so on until the teen is confirm the fact that they were agree. The same goes with a teen pregnancy. As soon as the girl in the hospital, doctors report about teen pregnancy and then, obviously, an investigation is started. So nope, 17 and 28 is not legal in Russia for sure
damn, i always liked asteria seperately and liked some of brit’s songs, never knew they were even friendly outside of a collab, lol. really disappointing to see a person i liked come out as a predator, especially since she’s trans like me and helped me feel not so weird about it personally. it’s not even shocking anymore that people are being outed as predators, it’s just gross and disappointing: why can’t normal adult human beings just stop liking children? anyways, thanks for shining some light on this, wouldn’t have realised brit’s a disgusting otherwise.
i live in poland and yeah, the age of consent is 15 but everyone is shady and weirded out when it comes to teen-adult relationships, and at least around me, when an adult is dating someone below the age of 18 it’s treated as borderline p3d0 behavior
Is it tho
SHE SELF REPORTED WHEN SHE SAID SHE BROKE UP WITH HIM WHEN HE WASNT 18 💀
19:40 oh my god THANK YOU. ive always felt this way but ive never seen anyone say anything about it. Thank you for saying this because people censoring it like that really downplays the severity of how horrible it is and almost sugarcoats it
What I think is worse is that we need to censor the word rape…sure saying something like “i will r_pe you” is wrong and shouldn’t be said…but like talking about someone being raped or that SHOULD BE ALLOWED TO BE CALLED OUT I hate how censored social media is coming to calling out predators
my hatred for these censor words is based on what you said, but also to a much smaller degree, I'm starting to hear children use phrases like "unalive" as a synonym for dead which i guess is correct but it just sounds so stupid 😂
kinda hate the way she talks!! idk how to describe it but it’s like she thinks every single sentence she says is a clapback its so annoying 😭😭
Yea and his songs are ass
SAMEEE
without the captions in her videos, i wouldn't understand a single thing😭
I think she tries to sound feminine, but she just sounds like a tired ass rich white girl from a Disney teenage drama.
literally over the music on her shorts i can barely comprehend what shes saying
age of consent isn't so adults can hurt / touch kids... its for people under 18 to do things with other people under 18. why do people still get this confused 😭
I always believe that the age of consent should be 18 or at least 20
The age gap literally reminds me of Demi Lovato's song 29 that literally talks about the EXACT SAME age gap relationship they had with someone when they were 17 and he was 29 and like. In it, they literally talk about how traumatizing and messed up that relationship was- I have a feeling Asteria will have similar thoughts and feelings once he is 29.
Getting older tends to change ones perspective, given the right resources and freedom from the initial situation, of course.
Demi uses she/her pronouns now!!
Also some added context for asterias age and the public perception of this before he turned 18:
Before he turned 18 there was a huge rumor going around that he was 24, it was so big EVERY birthday site up until the day of his 18th birthday said he was 24. So people weren't reacting accordingly because we all thought he was near Britney's age.
Finally more people are taking about this
I'm obsessed with the fact you never mentioned she is trans. Thank you.
Fr, every time I see a video exposing a groomer that happens to be trans, I always have to like cross my fingers and hope they don’t mention something about it cause then the comments will go absolutely bonkers about it so I really appreciate that He didn’t mention anything about it🙏
I think it adds context. Psychologically/socially, they were raised as a male, who outnumber biologically female predators by a longshot. There is nothing wrong that she is trans but what is wrong is to leave out information because it doesn't look good for that particular group of people.
The same as if a afab women was predatory but left out that fact because we don't want afab women to look bad.
why are you so obsessed with hiding that it's men who are the majority of people committing sexual assault?
@majonezowekrolestwo3654 probably because they don't want a bad name for their group. But honestly, it shouldn't be hidden so that these people should be accountable by their own people. Like, if a biological man or woman is called out for heinous sexual crimes and be shamed for it, why not the other groups?
@@tkraid2575bc there's already an incorrect stigma about trans people being predators (mostly around hrt) and people with no brain cells will use this as an argument to say "all trans people are predators, see right here you have your examples!!" And further the stigma. It's already hard enough for trans people as it is, my best friend is just in the beginning stages of accepting she's trans and hopefully we live in a progressive country so most people are accepting but she's from a very christian family, transitioning and being trans is already hard enough as it is, no need to make it even harder for those that have to deal with it. Plus, predators and creeps are predators and creeps no matter the gender. There are plenty of creepy women, but most sexual crimes committed by women whether it's towards people who are underaged or not are extremely underreported due to again, the STIGMA that men face when speaking up against what they were put through. Sure gender plays a huge factor as just stated previously but predators are predators no matter what
As a 29 year old women the thought of dating a 17 year old is DISGUSTING. In that same breath I was also a 17 year old who dated a 27 year old and look back thinking that was fucked up. . .
0:30 its not "losing its impact" you're becoming numb to it... keep your heart open
So so SOOOOOO happy someone is talking about this issue. Especially happy it's you because I know you put the proper time and research into your videos.
Idc if the age of consent is 15, 16 or whatever, it wouldn't be so concerning if they were at least a couple of years apart but 11 YEARS, an almost 30 year old doesn't have anything to do with a teenager
I'm from Poland. Yeah age of consent is 15, buuut only for teenagers. If you are 30 and going to bed with 17 you are a predator.
so, here's how age of consent in russia works: you become a legal adult (can drink/vote/drive etc.) at 18, but the age of consent is 16 EXCEPT WHEN THE OTHER PARTY IS OVER 18, then such contact is criminal (unless they'll married which is a whole another story)
7:15 they mixed up age of majority and age of consent
Even think about the song BFM that Asteria and Britney sang together. The lyrics even imply something romantic between them. (Asteria: "This ho she really want me" Britney: "And he can't get enough of me" Asteria: "I'm posted up in the club with Britney") I really love this genre, and Britney was one of my favs. I'm so disgusted and appalled. Like is it really that hard to not like someone underage???
"I bring her to the mansion, it's britney effing mansion" 😭
crazy how Asteria came out with a diss song "FBM" (fuck britney manson) recently 😂its just a slightly changed version of BFM except instead of "Its Britney f*cking Manson" its "F*ck Britney Manson" and it features 6arelyhuman at the start
I’m pretty sure Asteria released a new song called FBM (Fuck Britney Manson) recently
my god, just leave the children alone, celebs. it's not that hard to just not interact with them
4:57 six-arely human 😭😭😭
Oh god😭
CRYING
@@alxD-ayy he prolly don’t really pay attention to the scenecore stuff but hey I’ve been in his shoes b4😭
I used to say it like that 😭
@@Ruthl3ss_c0rpze same but we start somewhere😭
asteria is not a metal artist, he makes party music like edm type of music and takes after old songs to remix like "i'm blue"!!
glad you said it lol, it was bothering me tbh
@@humanhumanson-jr8sk yeah me too!!
Oh, damn, I thought they were scene core- 😭
Admittedly, I’m genuinely confused about the genre of music they make, since they seem to emphasize (along with their other collaborators) that they’re scene…. But I’ve seen arguments that mention they’re really just scene-core if anything…. So idfk anymore….
@@l.__.c4s they are scenecore, but that probably still falls under the edm or pop umbrella. it's easier to call them that so people who aren't chronically online still get it lol
@@l.__.c4s hey man, totally fine to case him as scene, but scene is often more sped up type of beats that talk about drgs, alchohol and breakups (or love ig?) id put his music as more of EDM or even party music, 6arelyhuman7 could be considered scenecore put most people in their circle couldnt, their music is clearly inspired by scene while i dont get the inspo or the vibe of scene into asteria's music i get how people could make the connection, scene is 2000s party music, upbeat with often dark and/or edgy lyrics, EDM is music for party goers, something you just put on and vibe
2/3 women experience SA in their life, maybe more, however 2/3 women don’t feel the need to touch kids 🤷♀️
What....
what does this mean
dawg I'm ngl it sounds like you're saying more women need to be S/Aed. maybe rephrase /lh
i know i already commented but i seriously do not understand what ur comment is saying, it sounds like you saying the women who get sexually assaulted dont sexually assault people? which that’s definitely not true, especially considering the fact that britney herself mentions she’s a rape victim
@@JamesCharIes britney has experienced sa twice but that doesnt give her a excuse to date a kid
i am so happy to see a louis muclung (my favorite UA-camr) mention by my other favorite UA-camer
2024 literally year of the predators/weirdos😭
Helppp 😂
And I have no idea why 😭😭
2024 is just showing how deeply ingrained ped0s are in the world we're raised to ignore like generations before did, do and still gaslight.
NAH.. EVERYONES GETTING CANCELLED
Omfg and i liked her music too. Literally 2024 the year of predators
Me too i feel disgusting
As a 28 year old... the idea of even flirting with an 18 year old disgusts me...
Fr there was this guy I met on discord and he would flirt 18 year old females including me cause according to him we are in our peaked years for looks and for fertility and he’s 32 btw 💀 and he said its not weird
2024 is year of the creep
The other dude looked up age of majority instead of age of consent in those countries. Two different things.
Why did that one second of her music sound like a autotuned fart? 😂
Fr
I actually tried some of her music, it’s god awful, then again I prefer instruments instead of just electronic stuff but that’s just my opinion
Try not to talk to kids challenge
Impossible
@@abrielle9469 (3AM) (GONE WRONG) (GONE SEXUAL)
They collaborated.
Dude i love your videos so much and im so glad you're talking about this!!! keep up the good work :D
Clearly, we're all having an issue of understanding what age of consent is... The age of consent is the legal age the courts will say that you can consent anyone younger than that legally can not consent to sexual relations of any kind even kissing... adults are not allowed to sleep with minors that's statutory r*pe... I don't understand how people do not understand this when I was 16 and legally in a court of law I was allowed to consent does not mean that the 29year old man who had sexual relations with me was allowed to do that.... he's a p#dophile and I was assaulted even tho I was capable of consent...
There are rules that every parent should stuck into their kids heads from a very young age
- adults and kids can't be friends
- adults can't have secrets with kids
- adults can't make plans with kids without talking to their parents first
And the best and easiest way to explain it to for example a rebelious teenager is:
"Grownups are too mature to spend time with children. The only reason why some adults choose to hang out with kids is because they are weird and other adults don't like them, so they target kids because kids don't recognize what a *weird adult* is like"
8:14 most countries actually have an age of consent under 17, especially in Europe
3:30 METAL??? SINCE WHEN WAS KRUSHCLUB METAL-😭😭😭😭
That's what I'm saying 😭
Asteria??? Metal 😭😭????
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU
Also, the reason Britney Groomer broke up with Asteria was because he turned 18.
Ur my favorite British person please dont get cancelled ever
Next Odetari song :
"Hello britney i heard you like em young"
No like guys lbr, we have enough of stars being creeps..
I really hope odetari or 6arleyhuman aren't next
@@Sanatizer_1009 frr
You realized Odetari follows Britney on instagram 😭
@@zsazsaga yeah, like Asteria does?
@@soroly_1111 he unfollowed her
The manson curse strikes again
6:33 "No I don't care about Marilyn Manson." I mean, that creep has enough allegations against him you could probably make a video 3 times as long as this one. I think the surname is cursed, at least as far as musicians (or attempted musicians in Charles' case) are concerned.
i thought for the longest time she was just taylor momsen because i never really looked at her face
finally someone talked about it
Fr
Fr
In my country the age of consent is 14 wtf is going on in the world😭
(Not comparing)
In Nigeria its 11
In Japan it used to be 13
In France it's 15
In US it's 16 (I think)
There's no age of consent in Yemen
Wtf is happening 😭
(Srry if sum r wrong)
@@Ruthl3ss_c0rpzein the us some states are 16, some are 17, and a couple are 18
@@Ruthl3ss_c0rpze us has it as 18 and in yemen its illegal unless married
@@Ruthl3ss_c0rpze In the united states, it ranges from 16-18 depending on the state, with some weird few exception laws.
All I knew about Britney Manson was that they were a transgender female and aspiring model. I’ve seen a tonne of clips where Britney and friends demonstrate different style runway walks out in public and inside apartment with the hopes of being scouted by a modeling agency.
I’m also from NZ, the age of consent here is 16 but is it weird and all round inappropriate? YES!
literally how hard is it to not talk to children
apparently really hard for sum celebs
the russian girls on tiktok are saying she’s lying about being from Russia.
i am from Russia. Britney is from Estonia, a lot of people there speak in russian
@@nataliabusko1432 oh i see, thank you!
Thanks for the material. I am from Poland and I didn't know that such a singer lives in my country. Grooming is disgusting.
major sticky drama/BOTDF vibes emanating from them all..
At the end of the day, that “music scene” is such an accurate throwback to the worst parts of 2007-2011 and the vibes emanating from it are gross.
10:15 top tier actually
*takes fashion of my playlist* used to like that song and she ruined it by liking children
I used to like her music since it reminded me a lot of early 2000s but after this whole thing I genuinely feel disgusted even listening to her because of her actions like come on, can’t people just like people their own age 😭💀
I’m 35 in about a week and I can get along with teens and people in their 20s but in no way does the idea of being romantic and crushing on someone under the age of 29 cross my mind. Ever. WHAT THE HECK WOULD WE EVEN HAVE IN COMMON?! My ex was 6 years my junior and omg we NEVER had anything to relate on. EVER.
The part when she said "We broke up when it was his bday" gives a HUGE hint that she's a groomer, and did she say "how old is odetari" 😭 ODETARI IS MARRIED
I personally feel like in countries where the age of consent is 16, I personally think that if the other person is above the age of 18 then it should be considered p*dophilia, because I feel like a 16 and 18 yr old have/ can have similar interests and are of similar mental maturity, but as soon as the person is above 20 then there is a power dynamic where the older person has more power because they are more mentally mature
She’s a joke…like Drake, James Charles and Colleen Ballinger.
Don’t forget Diddy, Kris Tyson, Dr Disrespect, Cody Ko, Zach Justice, Lily Tino
0:25 MELANIE? 😭😭
She doesn't have an okay grasp on consent :( I've been seeing more and more about her. Sucks..
@@sad_artwork timothy was exposed as lying, so melanie was proven innocent
@@auroraborealiiss not true :) People faked a bunch of things, which have been proven to be fake. But unfortunately most people just saw the fake evidence, and not the debunking of it. And that's not the only case I've seen. There are other people who have come out with sketchy stuff
@@sad_artwork an ex friend of timothy leaked convo between her and timothy (when the allegations first came out) talking about how jealous timothy was of melanie, and how she wanted to be famous too
@@auroraborealiissfelanie took advantage of Timothy
Im glad you talked about this
FINALLY SOMEONE IS SPEAKING ABOUT THIS! I've been sitting here like "ermmm is she gonna get away with this?"
Why are there so many predators?! It's out of control! And they do it out in the open! It's wild !
Now he made a diss track
FBM is amazing
What the hell is wrong with the name Manson?? 😭 Britney Manson, Charles Manson, Marilyn Manson.. it’s a curse at this point
THEY MADE A DISS TRACK ABOUT HER
LMAOO
FBM🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️🗣️
Him *
Im so glad this finally got out, ive know for months, but im not comfortable talking about this stuff
Before any screenshots came out, I saw an asteria x britney post and I was like "oh wait isn't he like 18?" And then I googled it. Both their ages were public back then.
0:25 IS THAT MELANIE MARTINEZ?
Yes
As a 17 year old, I avoid most people older than me. I have a singular school friend who's older than me. The only older people I hang out with are my older sister's friends, and ONLY while she is there. I can't imagine hanging out with an older person, let alone DATING THEM.
0:54 my dumb American brain immediately saw those measurements in inches & thought "omg,that's huge!!!". Oh lord,I've been watching non-US tubers for too long to slip up like that 😂. Ok,continuing.......
Oof this literally reminds me of the song by Demi Lovato 29
It’s literally about how fucked it was that she dated a 29 yr old when she was 17, and now that demi is 29 it just shows how fucked it is
Hope the guy realized how fucked it is
I feel like there should be an additional clause in the age of consent laws that limit it to being within a certain age range (if there isn't already) because yeah a 16 year old can probably consent with another teenager but someone who's nearly 30 should still be illegal
My good sir! Your demeanour, decor, and energy have earned my respect, sub, notifications, and comment 🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤
Britney Manson? Is she trying to be quirky like Marilyn Manson as far as her name goes? Cringe.
legality is important, but in some cases not enough to protect younger people or even children
the age of consent in my country is 14 (which is really fucked up i know) so it's useless to bring up laws to protect 15 y/o from predators for example (and it used to be worse)
thank you for bringing morality up in this discussion lol as obvious as it sounds, for some reason unfortunately people seem to cling only on laws and forget to talk about how this is essentially wrong. it gives me a weird vibe like "so if it wasn't illegal it would be ok?"
3:30 thats not metal.
Calling whatever that is metal is so offending
@@TrashPandaLover fr
REAL
1:33 THATS MEEEEE HAHA
BRIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIII
BRI SWAGYY
I LOVE U
@@yuistrawberrycakeYUI
@@swaggoroni SWAGGY
thank you so so much, asteria deserves so much better.
I've been a fan of asteria since 2022 and I was actually so appalled that this happens to him wtf
Hi, I'm from New Zealand. The age of consent here is 16, but that just means you don't need to get legal parental consent to get freaky (nobody does anyway, because if you're 14 and doing it you're sure not telling your parents about it, but also if you're under 16 and doing it with someone it means that legal action could be taken, if someone chose to pursue that option). You are still considered a minor until you turn 18 though. So yes, this is a weird relationship. I hope Asteria is okay, I remember who I was when I was 16-17 and I would have been so susceptible. I was talking to 20-26 year old men online when i was 13-16 because I got groomed, I didn't know, I just thought it was exciting and naughty. It was grooming. Even after I turned 16, when I was talking to older guys, that was still grooming. And though it wasn't technically illegal, it's still way too large of an age gap for someone that young. if you're 28 you can date someone 38, but there's so much growth people go through in your 20s that I would find it weird if a 28 year old went for anyone under 22, if a 24 year old went for anyone under 21, if a 22 year old went for anyone under 20, and if a 20 year old went for anyone under 18 (assuming you were not in a relationship with them before you turned 20). It's an exponential curve, so 28 and 17 is WAYYYY too young.
omg she’s finally getting canceled i love scenecore so i knew this from the START
It’s disturbing that she seems to be trying to paint him as the bad guy. Disappointing
What the fuck???? I loved FVSHION but why is it ppl who get famous suddenly decide they like children??? 😭
I was literally watching her shorts, and this came up in my recommendation the second I closed the shorts 💀💀
Just to clear it up, the legal age in Russia and Poland is 18, but the age of restriction is 16 and the legal age in New Zealand is 20 so she is still gross.