They wanted us to believe they're dumb, right? It's like giving a reggae artist a pop award. How can you give an "amapiano" artist an Afrobeat award? The thing is that, they decided from the onset, for reasons best known to them, to give Tyla an award, no matter the genre, and Africans would not figure out. That was Burna Boy's award right there! They knew what they were doing - it was deliberate.
what I love about Tyla speech is the 'African music can be pop music too' That is the most powerful part of her speech b/c a lot of African artists don't have to change their sound, language or conform to blow. Some ppl wanted Asake to sing in English some even were saying Ayra Starr won't blow in the US if she doesn't tone down her afro sound b/c she can't break into the market. The point is BE YOURSELF!!!!
let's be real these mainstream awards shows cannot create a category for all of African genres. if we really need to make a change we should invest in our own local awards and create a structure like an African award where we all invest in. This will highlight out local genres. we need to lead by example and show the world how its one.
People just need to be educated about the genres of music in Africa. I just think people choose to ignore things, Afro Beat/Beats is Nigerian period no question about that, and the Godfather of it is Fela Anikulapo Kuti.
Even in Nigeria afrobeats isn't the only genre, it'd not what defines the entirety of our music. We still have highlife music. Just like Amapiano isn't the only Southafrican sound in SA. It's very disappointing that we things as simple as this have to be explained. Maybe the artist have to take their stand on it, by prompting them ahead of time and clearly showing their disappointment when categorized wrongfully or not even refusing the accolades that come with the misinformation, were that big! It's so annoying. The artist RN dont even bother so much about it. How long are we going to have to explain this for? It's not okay.
Just like Hip-hop music is the face of American music so Afrobeat is the face of Nigerian Music. Those other genres of music you are talking about lack the ability to break the ceiling Afrobeat is the major genre which allows Nigerian music to sail all over the world's continents, so let's hold it tight. Besides Afrobeat is just Pop music fused with all other genres of music we have in Nigeria sooo!!🤷🏽♂️
I just don't know why us African artists want US, Europe music awards to appreciate our culture and talent. We need to stop warming towards them, let make our African awards big.. Maybe country like Kenya, Ghana, Nigeria or SA own the Africa award platform for us and only for us period. There are many music genres in Africa.
@@georgeilawagbon9255 Do you see any American artists running to Nigeria to get an award? Do you see any American running to Nigeria to make it big in the music industry? Do you think we need Nigerian money to make it in America? I didn’t think so.
@@georgeilawagbon9255 if we never heard from Tylenol again we would not miss a single beat… Yall want these American dollars.. we can’t do anything with the naira… Nigerians in Nigeria can’t do anything with the naira… miss me with that bs. #theynotlikeus
@@justForMenu how is that wahala? If people want to give awards, that is their prerogative. Whether or not that is worth the awardees time is up to the organisers and what they are offering or the awardees preferences. Our attention is collateral at best. Your comment is flippant.
@@justForMenu Afrobeats, as brilliant as it is, is not all there is to African pop music. That’s just reality. Clearly there’s an issue. Be solution minded. Tyla was awarded for a reason. She’s south african and her music merely incorporates slight rhythmic elements of Afrobeats at best, if at all! She does not do Afrobeats. We are not the only ones dictating which African music genre is popular/successful. A true umbrella term is necessary.
Thanks for posting!... Many of us want to learn, and it's appreciated when you tell us. We were caught up with African Talent going Global...as it should!
Part of the problem is how difficult it was for me to search for this video! Without hitting the link in your bio/ searching your name along with the title. This is content i organically consume. The algorithm needs to do better.
@@vershima69 both ways?? I never see any Americans getting African awards. I never see hip-hop artist getting African awards. It goes one way and you want to change our way.
Really educating video kachi, im a fan🤗. However, i dont think tyla had a basis to say what she said at the VMAs. She's from south Africa where amapiano originates from but water is not amapiano, or is it?
That's the weird part. It's not. Tbh it gives me pure Pop music vibes, and it keeps winning in "African" categories like whyyyy ? If the artist was awarded it's different from when the music is awarded. Afrobeats isn't even the only sound from Nigeria same way Amapiano isn't the only in SA.
Afrobeats artistes and indeed all African artistes as well other investors need to invest more at home, build a proper entertainment ecosystem, become more self-sufficient , that way all this craving for western acceptance/validation will reduce. not saying it is not a good thing but it should not be such a hot topic
The Amapiano sound is something, the south African Artist'S name is something else...they have to be more intentional about there name. The names are unnecessarily to complicated 😩
You made a whole lot of sense KACHI! TYLA is good but she shouldn't be winning the category she doesn't even do. That's a MISPLACED PLAQUE they handed out to TYLA! Americans should stop ventilating their IGNORANCE ON THE WORLD STAGE! It's EMBARASSING! 👎
Everyone is fiighing "Its Afrobeat" and others are saying "No its Amapiano" Its neither Pure Afrobeat nor Pure Amapiano but borrowed from both genres and infused with pop. This is a direction the Americans want to take so that Americans can consume this artform. Once they get it right everyone will follow them not this back and forth about South Africa and Nigerian music war. I'm South African and I see what they are doing.
Top 10 amapiano artists 1. Young Stunna 2. Sir Trill 3. Daliwonga 4. Sizwe alkaline 5. Tyler 6. Musa key 7. Mtito 8. Blxckie 9. Tyla 10. Nkosazana..... it's just top 10 I can't blame you at not knowing amapiano artists me either I don't know afrobeat artists I know popular artists
@@emmanuelameh3017 We don't like the same tast I'm not an Afrobeat fan and I'm not an Amapiano fan I'm fan of hip hop It's not about flag, country and stuff It's easy to admit they're not fan of Amapiano But music is music we rock with the good vibes They vibing to Amapiano, they're not fans That's not a problem at all We like different taste
1000 dollars you have 10 afroneat artists name in your head livong Rent free and I genuinely don't know one amapiano artist apart from Tyla and that is if she qualifies for one . cos she sounds more pop than amapiano
Who cares about amapiano? Never heard about all those names except Tyla. Amapiano is a sub-regional genre, it almost gained international recognition when Nigerians hopped into it, but the quickly hopped out and it returned to what it used to be - a sub-regional genre.
@@AfricanStoriesbyDamani You know tyla only You were dancing to tshwala bam, unavailable and mnike Bro I'm not a amapiano fan but I can see the trends Tyla is not fully amapiano artist Her music is closer pop rnb that's my view because they label her as an amapiano artist I'm a SAHipHop fan I don't give a F if you know our artists or not I'm enjoying 😉😊
Dj envy is not surprising. The larger context of the interview is based off of their attempt to rope her into commenting on Buju’s “f**kery” statements. Someone knowledgable enough might have distinguished afrobeats with afrobeat. Reggae and dancehall though ostensibly related are not the same.
Kachi I love you sooo much, but I am so disappointed in you too. You Nigerians also adore these very people and they choose to be ignorant of Africa , Nigeria included. What you heard in that radio interview was bound to happen. Americans have a lot to learn about Africa.
@@stillfitz9749 here’s your history lesson for the day. I’m AFRICAN AMERICAN which means anything African belongs to me… as a matter of fact, I’m more African than you… ALL OF WEST AFRICA RUNS THROUGH MY VEINS!!!! This is your scholarship for today. You’re welcome 😘
@@oludayoogun7976 is that so? The songwriter is white? Lol. I wasn’t aware. Might look into it. I believe you are right about it being pop though. It only incorporates certain elements of amapiano, which by virtue of her being from there (sa) seems authentic. Cheers.
Its neither Pure Afrobeat nor Pure Amapiano but borrowed from both genres and infused with pop. This is a direction the Americans want to take so that Americans can consume this artform. Once the get it right everyone will follow them not this back and forth about South Africa and Nigerian music war. I'm South African and I see what they are doing.
I dont know while people are shock whenever they noticed Americans ignorance. Enter the street of USA and ask names of Countries and they will tell you that Africa is a country so what make us feel they will not box Africa music and musicians
Hard pass on Tyla....hard pass. Never look the gift horse in the mouth. Tyla was only on that stage because AFROBEATS has penetrated the global cultural zeitgeist. NOT AMAPIANO......NOT KWAITO.........NOT HIPLIFE.......NOT GENGE. The least she should have said was honored to be on the stage and category with these greats and what a win for African music. Period. You are riding on the genre's coattails, at least have the integrity and self awareness to recognize it. Plus it is obvious she is the racially ambiguous, white washed version of 'Afrobeats' that they want to push. All the more reason why we must control the entire value chain of the ecosystem and keep it moving.
Tems and Tyla were just being silly . The Afrobeats genre was only just created out of respect for African music and both are already creating divisions . Afrobeat is different from Afrobeats ! Country music now has rock , blues and hip hop sub genres .
Im so happy to see Nigerians get annoyed when someone talks Afrobeat South Africa is mentioned😂😅😂. Remember those days when it happened to us regarding Amapiano as seen as Nigerian music in America. You guys were shameless 😂. Now you feel how we fell. You even told us its not that deep. How is it Now😅. But love the Podcast.
The podcast hosts are lazy. It’s not the first time an artist has been disrespected that way. They did same with Nicki minaj. Just talk no research before an artist shows up.
Amapiano music is a copy of house music, we don't really care about d art rather d song. Afrobeat it similar to R&B, is a soft music, artists become more popular as to compare Amapiano
Like you Ghanians are claiming amapiano now, thieves, you claim afrobeat is from Ghana yet, you have no afrobeat artist, you can't even produce afrobeat, thieves, Ghanians and envy, y'all should keep dreaming, thieves Why don't you ask your Ghanian artists to do copy and promote? Thieves, same way y'all claim Ghana taught Nigeria how to shoot movies and music, when Nigeria left you guys, your music and film industry falls, Ghanians and plagiarism are 5&6
Ask your elders. The ones that are 65 and above. You just made a baseless statement. I wouldn't have responded but for your name Tanko? Do you even know the origins of your name?
No true. AFRICA music belong to African from every corner of Africa. This Nigerian want to awn all about Africa even they get a bit fare from India. So stop the cup.
They wanted us to believe they're dumb, right? It's like giving a reggae artist a pop award. How can you give an "amapiano" artist an Afrobeat award? The thing is that, they decided from the onset, for reasons best known to them, to give Tyla an award, no matter the genre, and Africans would not figure out. That was Burna Boy's award right there! They knew what they were doing - it was deliberate.
what I love about Tyla speech is the 'African music can be pop music too' That is the most powerful part of her speech b/c a lot of African artists don't have to change their sound, language or conform to blow. Some ppl wanted Asake to sing in English some even were saying Ayra Starr won't blow in the US if she doesn't tone down her afro sound b/c she can't break into the market. The point is BE YOURSELF!!!!
let's be real these mainstream awards shows cannot create a category for all of African genres. if we really need to make a change we should invest in our own local awards and create a structure like an African award where we all invest in. This will highlight out local genres. we need to lead by example and show the world how its one.
People just need to be educated about the genres of music in Africa. I just think people choose to ignore things, Afro Beat/Beats is Nigerian period no question about that, and the Godfather of it is Fela Anikulapo Kuti.
Even in Nigeria afrobeats isn't the only genre, it'd not what defines the entirety of our music. We still have highlife music. Just like Amapiano isn't the only Southafrican sound in SA. It's very disappointing that we things as simple as this have to be explained. Maybe the artist have to take their stand on it, by prompting them ahead of time and clearly showing their disappointment when categorized wrongfully or not even refusing the accolades that come with the misinformation, were that big! It's so annoying. The artist RN dont even bother so much about it. How long are we going to have to explain this for? It's not okay.
Just like Hip-hop music is the face of American music so Afrobeat is the face of Nigerian Music.
Those other genres of music you are talking about lack the ability to break the ceiling
Afrobeat is the major genre which allows Nigerian music to sail all over the world's continents, so let's hold it tight.
Besides Afrobeat is just Pop music fused with all other genres of music we have in Nigeria sooo!!🤷🏽♂️
@@alexkorami6679fact
I love the fact that you vent your beliefs! If we all did this, it would make a difference!
I just don't know why us African artists want US, Europe music awards to appreciate our culture and talent. We need to stop warming towards them, let make our African awards big.. Maybe country like Kenya, Ghana, Nigeria or SA own the Africa award platform for us and only for us period. There are many music genres in Africa.
I agree… us in America been on point everyone else comes to our culture trying to assimilate… so yes yall should keep your music and awards in Africa
@@Thetrueview409the Grammy organizers came to Africa, they are envious of Nigeria artists, we know, that's their own award, not ours
Bro they are envious of Nigeria artists, because Nigeria has the biggest artists right now, the USA Grammy organizers are envious of Nigerians
@@georgeilawagbon9255 Do you see any American artists running to Nigeria to get an award? Do you see any American running to Nigeria to make it big in the music industry? Do you think we need Nigerian money to make it in America? I didn’t think so.
@@georgeilawagbon9255 if we never heard from Tylenol again we would not miss a single beat… Yall want these American dollars.. we can’t do anything with the naira… Nigerians in Nigeria can’t do anything with the naira… miss me with that bs. #theynotlikeus
Thank you for promoting Africa! I am very impressed
The recording academy is deep. Clearly a cut above the rest. “African music performance” is what all those awards should be called, to avoid wahala.
exactly
That's another wahala jare, make we boycott and big up our own African awards period.
@@justForMenu how is that wahala? If people want to give awards, that is their prerogative. Whether or not that is worth the awardees time is up to the organisers and what they are offering or the awardees preferences. Our attention is collateral at best. Your comment is flippant.
@@justForMenu Afrobeats, as brilliant as it is, is not all there is to African pop music. That’s just reality. Clearly there’s an issue. Be solution minded. Tyla was awarded for a reason. She’s south african and her music merely incorporates slight rhythmic elements of Afrobeats at best, if at all! She does not do Afrobeats. We are not the only ones dictating which African music genre is popular/successful. A true umbrella term is necessary.
@@justForMenu let's support The headies more but headies sef suppose upgrade 😂😂
I thought that AfroBeats covered all of Africa, and that Nigeria was Top Dog! The Standard.
Much love and respect to you from America..thank you for the education.
it is combined and selective ignorance. God bless u sis,u really made my day. naija no send dem,we move! love u sis,great job.
Africa shall become a country soon in future
Thanks for posting!...
Many of us want to learn, and it's appreciated when you tell us.
We were caught up with African Talent going Global...as it should!
Part of the problem is how difficult it was for me to search for this video! Without hitting the link in your bio/ searching your name along with the title. This is content i organically consume. The algorithm needs to do better.
South Africa will win the next award with a white South African.
That's the next move,we all see through their shenanigans
You have educated us well...
My pleasure ❤
Spot on 👍🏿
Ahhhhhh AFRICA should have its own AWARD show! Stop trying to make America- Africa
We have award shows
But if yall are capitalising on our artists and nominating us for your award you might as well get it right
The are many awards shows in Africa
@@vershima69 it’s the other way around you guys are capitalizing off of American money get it straight
@@HoneyChild-8 it's both ways man that's how capitalism works
But we have to negotiate good terms for ourselves by ourselves
@@vershima69 both ways?? I never see any Americans getting African awards. I never see hip-hop artist getting African awards. It goes one way and you want to change our way.
U just earn a new subscriber❤
Thank you
Really educating video kachi, im a fan🤗. However, i dont think tyla had a basis to say what she said at the VMAs. She's from south Africa where amapiano originates from but water is not amapiano, or is it?
That's the weird part. It's not. Tbh it gives me pure Pop music vibes, and it keeps winning in "African" categories like whyyyy ? If the artist was awarded it's different from when the music is awarded.
Afrobeats isn't even the only sound from Nigeria same way Amapiano isn't the only in SA.
I believe you're right. that song ''water'' sounds very afrobeats to me
water is afrobeats, tyla is being dishonest
Poppiano, she said it numerous times!
Water is poppiano!
Africa is one
Afrobeats artistes and indeed all African artistes as well other investors need to invest more at home, build a proper entertainment ecosystem, become more self-sufficient , that way all this craving for western acceptance/validation will reduce. not saying it is not a good thing but it should not be such a hot topic
I always wondered why i never lyked it .....
We don't need Validation from US in South Africa we are eating at Home 🇿🇦
Thank you ma
The Amapiano sound is something, the south African Artist'S name is something else...they have to be more intentional about there name. The names are unnecessarily to complicated 😩
You made a whole lot of sense KACHI! TYLA is good but she shouldn't be winning the category she doesn't even do. That's a MISPLACED PLAQUE they handed out to TYLA! Americans should stop ventilating their IGNORANCE ON THE WORLD STAGE! It's EMBARASSING! 👎
I just subscribed to your channel
Everyone is fiighing "Its Afrobeat" and others are saying "No its Amapiano"
Its neither Pure Afrobeat nor Pure Amapiano but borrowed from both genres and infused with pop.
This is a direction the Americans want to take so that Americans can consume this artform.
Once they get it right everyone will follow them not this back and forth about South Africa and Nigerian music war.
I'm South African and I see what they are doing.
No American wants to follow this art form… if anything their following us
First, here too.
❤
Top 10 amapiano artists
1. Young Stunna
2. Sir Trill
3. Daliwonga
4. Sizwe alkaline
5. Tyler
6. Musa key
7. Mtito
8. Blxckie
9. Tyla
10. Nkosazana..... it's just top 10
I can't blame you at not knowing amapiano artists me either I don't know afrobeat artists
I know popular artists
In your heart, you know the flag bearers of African music, they stare you in the face, they need no introduction, selective ignorance is funny.. 😂
@@emmanuelameh3017
We don't like the same tast
I'm not an Afrobeat fan and I'm not an Amapiano fan
I'm fan of hip hop
It's not about flag, country and stuff
It's easy to admit they're not fan of Amapiano
But music is music we rock with the good vibes
They vibing to Amapiano, they're not fans
That's not a problem at all
We like different taste
1000 dollars you have 10 afroneat artists name in your head livong Rent free and I genuinely don't know one amapiano artist apart from Tyla and that is if she qualifies for one . cos she sounds more pop than amapiano
Who cares about amapiano? Never heard about all those names except Tyla. Amapiano is a sub-regional genre, it almost gained international recognition when Nigerians hopped into it, but the quickly hopped out and it returned to what it used to be - a sub-regional genre.
@@AfricanStoriesbyDamani
You know tyla only
You were dancing to tshwala bam, unavailable and mnike
Bro I'm not a amapiano fan but I can see the trends
Tyla is not fully amapiano artist
Her music is closer pop rnb that's my view because they label her as an amapiano artist
I'm a SAHipHop fan
I don't give a F if you know our artists or not I'm enjoying 😉😊
Dj envy is not surprising. The larger context of the interview is based off of their attempt to rope her into commenting on Buju’s “f**kery” statements. Someone knowledgable enough might have distinguished afrobeats with afrobeat. Reggae and dancehall though ostensibly related are not the same.
African get your Spotify! Develop it your selves!
Kachi I love you sooo much, but I am so disappointed in you too. You Nigerians also adore these very people and they choose to be ignorant of Africa , Nigeria included. What you heard in that radio interview was bound to happen. Americans have a lot to learn about Africa.
What do we Americans have to learn about Africa? Because when I look at the whole entire world, everyone is copying us.
@@Thetrueview409 in what
@@bofloa EVERYTHING
@@Thetrueview409 you say that while you bare a Nigerian goddess name yet we are the one copying you?
@@stillfitz9749 here’s your history lesson for the day. I’m AFRICAN AMERICAN which means anything African belongs to me… as a matter of fact, I’m more African than you… ALL OF WEST AFRICA RUNS THROUGH MY VEINS!!!! This is your scholarship for today. You’re welcome 😘
Kachi i can tell you Afrobeats is globally recognised just visit Caribbean countries you will be shocked
Water is not afrobeat its a pop song written by a white american
It's amapiano.
@@mphosa995It's not amapiano. It's a blend of pop, afrobeats and some log drums
😂😂😂How? She said pop@@mphosa995
@@oludayoogun7976 is that so? The songwriter is white? Lol. I wasn’t aware. Might look into it. I believe you are right about it being pop though. It only incorporates certain elements of amapiano, which by virtue of her being from there (sa) seems authentic. Cheers.
Its neither Pure Afrobeat nor Pure Amapiano but borrowed from both genres and infused with pop.
This is a direction the Americans want to take so that Americans can consume this artform.
Once the get it right everyone will follow them not this back and forth about South Africa and Nigerian music war.
I'm South African and I see what they are doing.
I dont know while people are shock whenever they noticed Americans ignorance. Enter the street of USA and ask names of Countries and they will tell you that Africa is a country so what make us feel they will not box Africa music and musicians
I beg to disagree. It wasn't done as a result of ignorance, it was deliberate.
Hard pass on Tyla....hard pass. Never look the gift horse in the mouth. Tyla was only on that stage because AFROBEATS has penetrated the global cultural zeitgeist. NOT AMAPIANO......NOT KWAITO.........NOT HIPLIFE.......NOT GENGE. The least she should have said was honored to be on the stage and category with these greats and what a win for African music. Period. You are riding on the genre's coattails, at least have the integrity and self awareness to recognize it. Plus it is obvious she is the racially ambiguous, white washed version of 'Afrobeats' that they want to push. All the more reason why we must control the entire value chain of the ecosystem and keep it moving.
More than afrobeat means means the are other genre in africa
Very emotional you 😂😂
Tems and Tyla were just being silly . The Afrobeats genre was only just created out of respect for African music and both are already creating divisions . Afrobeat is different from Afrobeats ! Country music now has rock , blues and hip hop sub genres .
Nah, nothing silly here. Those people like always are clueless when it comes to African affairs.
Im so happy to see Nigerians get annoyed when someone talks Afrobeat South Africa is mentioned😂😅😂. Remember those days when it happened to us regarding Amapiano as seen as Nigerian music in America. You guys were shameless 😂. Now you feel how we fell. You even told us its not that deep. How is it Now😅. But love the Podcast.
😂 it really is painful. now we know what y'all felt
The podcast hosts are lazy. It’s not the first time an artist has been disrespected that way. They did same with Nicki minaj. Just talk no research before an artist shows up.
DJ envy is delusional. Disgruntled people always claim they can't see your works. We don't even know him. He doesn't exist as far as we are concerned
Super lady
Afrobeats = African music.
Water was never an Amapiano sound.
Who CARES?
Afro is African music not Nigerian music
Amapiano music is a copy of house music, we don't really care about d art rather d song.
Afrobeat it similar to R&B, is a soft music, artists become more popular as to compare Amapiano
How can your stereotypical ignorance not know how the great Fela created Afrobeat music? How dare you?
Afro beat original from Ghana, not Nigeria, Nigerians just stole it from Ghana and make it their own as they always do copyright and promot,
Like you Ghanians are claiming amapiano now, thieves, you claim afrobeat is from Ghana yet, you have no afrobeat artist, you can't even produce afrobeat, thieves, Ghanians and envy, y'all should keep dreaming, thieves
Why don't you ask your Ghanian artists to do copy and promote? Thieves, same way y'all claim Ghana taught Nigeria how to shoot movies and music, when Nigeria left you guys, your music and film industry falls, Ghanians and plagiarism are 5&6
@TankoHassan-tq4pc
Name one afrobeat musician before Fela
Ask your elders. The ones that are 65 and above. You just made a baseless statement. I wouldn't have responded but for your name Tanko? Do you even know the origins of your name?
The category is for Afrobeats and not Afrobeat. You're not objective.
No true. AFRICA music belong to African from every corner of Africa. This Nigerian want to awn all about Africa even they get a bit fare from India. So stop the cup.
Except the fact that Africa music is diverse and each country have thier own genre so why are you all trying to force yourself on afrobeat
You're egoistic in your presentation. You'll continue to get hurt. Afrobeats is not Nigerian.
Stop conflating highlife with Afrobeat