Why is someone drawing graffiti in a church? | Saenredam's 'Buurkerk at Utrecht' | National Gallery

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  • Опубліковано 21 чер 2022
  • What can we learn about how artists use their imagination when depicting everyday life, from this work of art? Join Justine Rinnooy Kan, our Dorset Curatorial Fellow, as she looks at some unusual behaviour that we wouldn't expect to see inside a church, depicted in Pieter Saenredam's painting.
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  • @benwilson6145
    @benwilson6145 Рік тому +38

    Rosslyn Chapel on the outskirts of Edinburgh did not have dogs, but until recently had a cat called William that adopted the church. Instead of removing him he was kept and he used to greet visitors, sadly dying last year.

    • @harrietlyall1991
      @harrietlyall1991 Рік тому +6

      Ah, sad to hear that. I live in Edinburgh and know Rosslyn very well. I heard that Cat William assisted at a wedding in the chapel, by rolling around on the bride’s train as she stood at the altar taking her vows!

    • @clairejohnston2461
      @clairejohnston2461 Рік тому +4

      They had a resident cat at the National Cathedral in Washington, D.C., when I visited. And the Episcopal church I attended had their own cat, too, who walked in and became the church’s mascot. 🐱

  • @HopskotchBunny
    @HopskotchBunny Рік тому +4

    Phenomenal presentation. I could watch these all day. More please. Thank you very much. 🐶

  • @conorcleary1498
    @conorcleary1498 Рік тому +4

    Love stuff like this where the humour and foibles of humanity and nature are high lighted and engaged with. So often are they put down and demeaning. Great video :)

  • @BooksShoesCats
    @BooksShoesCats Рік тому +13

    Best speaker and narrator of your house I think. So lively and happy, passioned and fascinated herself by the art! Loved it!

  • @vickiharrington8870
    @vickiharrington8870 Рік тому +20

    It's amazing to see these glimpses of everyday life in 17th century Netherlands, and to have the meanings of the depictions explained by such a knowledgable curator. Thank so much.

  • @x1101126
    @x1101126 Рік тому +10

    Gorgeous voice, fascinating explaination, draws me to the picture and time instantly.

  • @rockingthemike
    @rockingthemike Рік тому +2

    justine's enthusiasm and knowledge of the topic has made this a pure joy to watch; great analysis!

  • @paulklee5790
    @paulklee5790 Рік тому +31

    Ten minutes very well spent... thank you. I’ve often wondered about the four on a horse and assumed they were some obscure aspect of Dutch Republican history but the ‘moral’ theme is just as convincing... Simon Schama’s book The Embarrassment of Riches is a fascinating read on just that topic... and nice to hear the Dutch language suddenly spoken so very charmingly....

  • @msaditu
    @msaditu Рік тому +20

    Justine is such a lovely presenter. Thank you for a wonderful and interesting talk.

  • @sneepandsnorp
    @sneepandsnorp Рік тому +3

    I am so thankful to have found an account that beautifully explains different types of art and paintings! I am learning so much, thank you!!! 🥰🙏

  • @LockportDan
    @LockportDan 10 місяців тому +1

    Fascinating. Insightful, intriguing information beautifully presented. Thank you.

  • @Ceorolus
    @Ceorolus Рік тому +2

    Another good lecture and well done at that. Compliments to all who make them.

  • @magicjoeblack5761
    @magicjoeblack5761 Рік тому +2

    These uploads are a thing of pure joy. 'Thank you' doesn't quite cover it. But thank you in abeyance.

  • @Kazza_8240
    @Kazza_8240 Рік тому +3

    I loved this, and I loved the presenter, Justine was so engaging and enthusiastic about the subject.

  • @JackT13
    @JackT13 Рік тому

    I remember reading somewhere that Saenredam rarely, if ever, painted human figures. I think most of the characters we see in his works are subsequent additions. Fascinating video, thanks!

  • @flamenca99
    @flamenca99 3 місяці тому

    What a great storyteller you are, Justine and only your last name and pronunciation of the Dutch words gave me a clue that you might be Dutch :-)! Fantastic!

  • @domihaz7788
    @domihaz7788 Рік тому +5

    Lovely paintings, lovely. Bkgrnd info, great energy!

  • @joecool7035
    @joecool7035 Рік тому +7

    thanks a lot for this lively presentation. Excellent done

  • @mikoajmiklasz9689
    @mikoajmiklasz9689 Рік тому +1

    Great interpretation. And such a lovely, smiling presenter.

  • @jeffmunn-giddings3211
    @jeffmunn-giddings3211 Рік тому +2

    Fascinating series of videos - it's surprising how much insight into art one can get in 10 minutes. I'm intrigued by the symbolism of animals, birds and so on in paintings and would welcome a clip covering some of the symbols and why they were used.

  • @rlace356
    @rlace356 Рік тому +2

    Perhaps a fellow artist could have painted the boys and the graffiti onto this very precise work of art as a graffiti added without permission. The idea makes me smile.....

  • @aiferapple1246
    @aiferapple1246 Рік тому +1

    What a wonderful presenter :)

  • @texterity3873
    @texterity3873 Рік тому +2

    Justine is terrific!

  • @xray7908
    @xray7908 Рік тому +2

    Point well made: that the artist utilized imagination in a studio setting to create paintings almost like a fictional narrative - that what you see in paintings like this is generally intentional, and not a product of chance. This only deepens the mystery. Instead of "what are those boys doing," we wonder "what did the artist intend to convey by showing those boys, and what are they doing anyway?"

  • @martijnkeisers5900
    @martijnkeisers5900 Рік тому +3

    Wat een goede en enthousiaste uitleg, en wat leuk een Nederlandse bij de National Gallery!

  • @johnreynolds5407
    @johnreynolds5407 Рік тому +1

    Charming and well-presented.

  • @rongray655
    @rongray655 Рік тому +5

    Another great video. I love this channel.

  • @marnoch4632
    @marnoch4632 Рік тому +3

    Wonderful! Thank you

  • @geoffreykeane4072
    @geoffreykeane4072 Рік тому +3

    Enjoyable talk - thank you 😊

  • @elenajune
    @elenajune Рік тому +2

    Fascinating and in-depth video!

  • @WillN2Go1
    @WillN2Go1 Рік тому +1

    Terrific video. I really enjoyed it. I've always enjoyed Saenredam's work and remember seeing this during my visit four years ago. Still I missed most of what's presented here.
    Maybe the graffiti is autobiographical for the artist. It may be where he learned to draw, or did his first practice - which fits with the theme of learning. Where in the 17th Century can a youth to find a smooth surface on which to draw? The outside of buildings? There's the weather. And that the position of the boy drawing is exactly the same as the artist Saenredam painting the picture.
    Also as a photographer I've figured out that if you stretch people, and sometimes architecture vertically about 10% people really like it. More than that and they notice (and complain).

  • @candynewton4945
    @candynewton4945 Рік тому +2

    The basket and figures look transparent. Is this photography? The figures do look very different in the foreground and the back.Thank you for sharing your knowledge. 🇺🇸🌹

  • @Bagheera23608
    @Bagheera23608 Рік тому +3

    I just adore this series. thank you so much. these are beautiful paintings. It seemed to me the group in the back seems to be dressed in a more middle eastern style as well? or was that just me?

  • @CBTheMechanic
    @CBTheMechanic Рік тому +3

    What about the other scratching right to the graffiti of the horse (right to the horse's head around the corner seen at 3:55)?

  • @welshpete12
    @welshpete12 Рік тому +3

    Very interesting , notice there is no stained glass as you would find in a British church !

  • @mojosbigsticks
    @mojosbigsticks Рік тому +4

    Wonderful. I'd never have noticed.

  • @wilfriedholscher7029
    @wilfriedholscher7029 Рік тому

    Thank you. 10 minutes well spent.

  • @sharonkaczorowski8690
    @sharonkaczorowski8690 Рік тому +1

    Wonderful presentation.

  • @5thastralspassenger
    @5thastralspassenger Рік тому +5

    That was great, thank you!

  • @layalabi1667
    @layalabi1667 Рік тому +1

    Thank you!

  • @SimonaCochiTheItalianWay
    @SimonaCochiTheItalianWay Рік тому

    Bravissima! Grazie Grazie mille

  • @terfalicious
    @terfalicious Рік тому +1

    Wonderful talk, lovely presenter.

  • @alishademmery3581
    @alishademmery3581 Рік тому +2

    Gorgeous beautiful magnificent

  • @antoninbesse795
    @antoninbesse795 Рік тому

    Very engaging presentation - and I learned a lot.

  • @sacredkinetics.lns.8352
    @sacredkinetics.lns.8352 Рік тому +2

    ` 🌹
    Very enlightening.
    Thank you.

  • @leslyeglover3506
    @leslyeglover3506 Рік тому +1

    What an enjoyable historical moment. Is it my imagination, or is there more 'graffiti' scratched into the pier, in front of the horse - on the darkest side? Minutes 3:42 and 3:46.

  • @randolphfriend8260
    @randolphfriend8260 Рік тому +1

    ❤️

  • @thatguyswavomeer
    @thatguyswavomeer Рік тому

    I assume this is a protestant church. On the contrary to catholic churches, protestant churches were mostly devoid of any images or sculptures. I'm now wondering if this scene with children is any sort of commentary or even satire on the artists' side.