Özü Türk - (Tatar-Tatarlar-Tatars from Finland) Part 1
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- Опубліковано 20 бер 2008
- The Crimean Tatars are descendants of the people who inhabited the Crimean peninsula and its surroundings for over seven centuries. The majority of these were nomadic Turkic people who came to Eastern Europe with the Chingizid (Turkic-Mongolian) armies. They established the Crimean Khanate in 1400s, and fusing with the native people of peninsula, they have constituted the distinctive "Crimean Tatar" people. Crimean peninsula, today a part of Ukraine is the homeland of the Crimean Tatars, speak Kipchak Turkic language.
After the annexation of Crimea by Russia in 1783, the Crimean Tatars have largely emigrated from their homeland. Today an estimated 5 million Tatars live in diaspora, having settled in countries as Turkey, Romania, Bulgaria, the US and Germany. The remaining Crimean Tatars in the homeland were deported on the 18 th of May, 1944 by the Soviet government, being unjustly accused of collaboration with the Nazis. Almost half of the Tatars have lost their lives in the process. Until today, only half of the Crimean Tatars have repatriated, the rest being unable to return to homeland due to political, and economic difficulties.
The word "Tatar" appears in the Kultigin tablets belonging to the 8 th century which were located in Mongolia today. These were the first written document of the Turkic peoples. According to the inscriptions, Tatars were one of the tribes living in the vicinity of Altai river. In the 13 th century, Tatars were said to be forcibly incorporated to the Mongol armies of Chingis Khan.
"Tartarus" in Latin refers to "the infernal regions of Roman and Greek mythology, hence Hell." The Europeans in the 13 th century mistakenly applied the term "Tartar" to Chingisid Hordes who swept through Europe and Asia.
By the 13 th century the term "Tatar" or "Tartar" was applied to all groupings of Turkic origin, such as Kipchaks, Pechenegs and Khazars, and especially to the members of the Chingizid Hordes, by Europeans. Mongol leadership of these Hordes was absorbed by the predominant Chingis Khan founded a militarized centered at Karakorum, but incorporated Turkic tribes in Central Asia, who outnumbered the Mongolians and formed the basis of his armies. Genghis Khan's son Ogodei succeeded him in 1229, and he and other descendants extended the empire from the Black Sea to the Korean Peninsula, from the Russian princedoms to the Bulgar principalities, Central and East Asia. While his grandson Kubilai Khan established his dynasty in China, and Mongolia, the Ilkhanate dynasty founded by Genghis Khan's sons established rule over nations of Iran, Iraq, Mesopotamia, India, and Persia. Batu Khan, another grandson, led the Golden Horde in the conquest of Hungary, Bulgaria, and Russia in the west as well as Central Asia. Crimea came under Mongolian-Turkic domination as a result of Batu Khan's conquests.
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Hello, I am tatar from Tatarstan - Sälam, Min Tatarstannan tatar qızı🙌
Sezgä dä sälam 👋
Turkiyeden aleyküm selam bacım bizden de size selam olsun
Fransadan bütün Turklere selam
Ас Саляму Алейкум барча Тюрк кардашларема Татарлардан кайнар Салям
Yasasin tatar ve turk halki!!!
Искренне уважаю тех, кто несмотря на то, что находится вдали от исторической родины, сохранил свой язык и свою культуру...
sizleri unutmadik merak etmeyin
@ssmusic214
we are TURKO TATAR.....!
men tataram men Türükem
Yasasin Tatar Türkleri
SHERGIY TURKISTAN
bende türkiye tatarıyım birgün tatarların oldugu bütün ülkeleri gezecegim insallah kazan kırım romanya finlandıya Allah bütün müslüman tatar halkını korusun ve yüceltsinnnnnnnn
Untill now we are cousins of Finn, Estonian, Litvanian, Lattvian, Bashkirian Turkey, Hun, Bosnian, (in the deep of the piramids of Bosnia peoples find Ancient Hungarian ,,rovás" writing), Ancient Bolgars (we was neightbourn in the place to day called Ukraine), 3 rebelled Khazar tribe join to us (Kabars) France and God know how many other nation.
Is there anybody who can give me an independent source/link? Please.
Because this going to be like the mistery of th Bermuda Triangle and I'm mad.
I hope I can help.
The most reliable names how our ancestors was called is the next:
Uzu-türk, Szittya (=Scityans, old Czech calling), Ugre (latin book), Magjeri/Madjeri/Mageri.
In one of our old Historian education cartoon Called ,,Mondák a magyar történelemből", which sadly only Hungarian language are dubbed. But the name is there. The first part around 6:50 (,,Bes(h)e" Türk-Hungarian callind Besenyők) and 7:00 and later you will later heard the next part the rests
watch?v=-Sghmy6tX_Q
@waasa73
I clearly understand what they are talking. Do you ?
@tatatakat
I see.
You look an expert in this field, so let me please ask you. Isn't there any sub group like we Hungarians have?
I find smthing wiki
Main Group:
en wikipedia org/wiki/Hungarian_people
Sub group (Europe):
Székely:
wiki/Székely
Csangó:
wiki/Csángó
Palóc:
wiki/Palóc (Sadly I didn't find more information yet.)
Jász:
wiki/Jassic_people
As far I know around the Baltic States there are more Finn-Ugric speaker groups. Do you know where I can find some maps, where they are?
I have little problem/confusion about my peoples. This theory was enforced with researches so it's official.
I'm a Hungarian and we have a bunch of theory of our origin... One and the most accepted that we call from the sorounding part of the Ural. And here the things are start to get difficult. Our language are Finn-Ugor, but only a small percent of us have they blood, which old ,,version was the same of ancient Bashkír. Until the Tatar invasion and etc.
Яратам сизне, татар тарихы унытмазка кирэк
Our music have many similarities of a part of eastern China. Ürümqi, which is in the place called Dzungaria.
When I look up to wiki I get even more confused (The Andronovo culture):
en.wikipedia
org/wiki/Hungarian_people
This is the 17-th theory of my peoples origin.
I'm happy to be cousins to everyone, but this is ridicilusly big number of countries.
Saçmalama dan düzgün cümle kur öyle yorum yap anlaşılsın..
Tatars' faces looks like the people living in turkey, espacially in trasian,south-western and black sea regions of Turkey.
Do you mean yoruks. Nomads of anatolia
So please help me. It's so terryfing to my that I don't know where my peoples come from. Mostly because the new fashists (magyar gárda and the others) are filled the net information of they on. And also many registered version was borned of the influence of our politician. Each one was borned in diferent ,,need" of the actual politics.
@tatatakat
In the old times the as far I know there wasn't any border, which can stop love. The only problem was the language. Not like todays.
And I'm one of the best example. If you looking at me you can see, that I have typical marks of the German and Slavs people. Just like many of us. So tell me how can you be sure, that you they are not poses any türk blood? In the old times Litvania was much bigger as well, which belong to day to Poland. Impossible tack down who belong where.
The true appearance of Chinghiz Khan, the real History of the Tatars and many of Turkic peoples:
Perhaps you know, that an outstanding historian-scientist D. Iskhakov wrote: ‘the true history of the Tatars, of the people in every respect historical, is not written yet’.
However, recently were published books about the unwritten (hidden) real history of the Tatars by independent Tatar historian Gali Yenikey. His books present a new, or rather ‘well-forgotted old’ information about the real history of the Tatars and other Turkic peoples.
It must be said, that in official history there are many falsifications and slanders about the ‘Tatars - wild nomads’ etc., which were written by pro-Chinese, Persian, also both Romanovs and Bolshevik ideologists.
However primarily we should know the truth about the meaning of the names ‘Mongol’ and ‘Tatar’ (‘Tartar’) in the medieval Eurasia:
According to data of many medieval sources, the name ‘Mongol’ until the 17th-18th centuries meant belonging to a political community, and was not the ethnic name.
While ‘‘the name ‘Tatar’ was ‘the name of the own ethnos (nation) of Chinghiz Khan'. Also ‘…Chinghiz Khan and his people did not speak the language, which we now call the ‘Mongolian’…’’ (an academician-orientalist V.P.Vasiliev, 19th century). This confirmed by many little known facts. So in fact Chinghiz Khan was from among the medieval Tatars and the outstanding and progressive leader of the Turkic peoples.
It is worth saying that according to many little-known data, the ancient and medieval Tatars were a very developed people both in spiritual and material aspects. It was the medieval Tatars who created the first Constitution of Eurasia, which was called in Tatar ‘Great Yasu’ (in Tatar means 'Great Scripture').
But with time many of their descendants became spiritually disabled and forgot invaluable doctrine and covenants of the creators of Great Yasu... So that the Tatars of Chinghiz Khan - medieval Tatars - were one of the Turkic nations, whose descendants now live in many of the fraternal Turkic peoples of Eurasia - among the Tatars, Kazakhs, Bashkirs, Uighurs, and many others.
And few people know that the ethnos of medieval Tatars, which stopped the expansion of the Persians and the Chinese to the West of the World in Medieval centuries, is still alive. Despite to the politicians of the tsars Romanovs and Bolsheviks dictators, which had divided and scattered this ethnos to different nations...
About everything above mentioned and a lot of the true history of the Tatars and other fraternal Turkic peoples, which was hidden from us, had been written, in detail and proved, in the book ‘Forgotten Heritage of Tatars’ - it is one of the dooks by Gali Yenikey, translated in Engilsh.
There are a lot of previously little-known historical facts, as well as 16 maps and illustrations in this book. This e-book (in English language) you can easily find in the Internet: payhip.com/b/Xujb
On the cover of this book you can see the true appearance of Chinghiz Khan. It is his lifetime portrait. In the ancient Tatar historical source ‘About the clan of Chinghiz Khan’ its author gave the words of the mother of Chinghiz Khan: ‘My son Chinghiz looks like this: he has a golden bushy beard, he wears a white fur coat and rides on a white horse’. As we can see, the portrait of an unknown medieval artist in many ways corresponds to the words of the mother of the Hero, which have come down to us in this ancient Tatar epic. Therefore, this portrait, which corresponds to the information of the Tatar source and to data from other sources, we believe, the most reliably transmits the appearance of Chinghiz Khan...’.
And here's another interesting thing:
We can't keep silent that some 'very important' official historians try to retell the content (or rather, the concept) of the works of the independent historian Gali Yenikey (Yenikeiev). But they conceal where the information was by them taken from. However it turned out they were unsuccessful and confused - this official historians, apparently, do not dare to show the real history of the Tatars, being afraid of their ‘scientific chiefs’.
But not only this - see the portrait of Chingiz Khan - see on the 7th minute of the video of the Institute of history of the Academy of Sciences of Tatarstan (Russia): ua-cam.com/video/3WqB71gs5bc/v-deo.html - also this portrait is shown there both before and after.
This portrait is reconstruction, which made by Yenikeiev on the basis of a lifetime portrait of Chingiz Khan and of information from the medieval Tatar Dastan (epic) 'About the Origin of Ciingiz Khan', as well as from other historical sources.
This portrait was used by authors of the video without Yenikeiev's permission and without telling where the portrait came from. This portrait is published on the cover of G. R. Yenikeiev's book ‘Forgotten heritage of the Tatars’: see: payhip.com/b/Xujb
For the first time this portrait was published on the cover of the third book by G. R. Yenikeiev ‘In the footsteps of the black legend’ (published in 2009), see its electronic version: payhip.com/b/DNdC
This ‘creativity’ of the official historians is called among the decent people as plagiarism - that is, as theft.
Linguistically they are Turkic. But genetically, I think they are closer to Europeans except less frequency for blonde hair as a result of hybridization. Its most likely a result of elite dominance, where a minority group imposes a culture on the majority however with very little genetic influence.
天王 What is European? It's Finnish or Italian or Serbian or German or French or something else? What is like being European? You are OK about all this and you want to know what is being Tatar or Turkic! Please, stop hese bullshit talks!
Tatars are Kipchak turks. Their tatar language has a lot of similarities with kazakh as they belong to the same clan.
Come to Turkey and see Turkish people. It seems like you don't know much. Start with the Turkish face in my profile photo.
Finland and Baltic aren't Europhean.
@Ali Farhadi Wrong. Turks from Turkey are close to Caucasians, Greeks, Italians, etc. Only Southeasterns look like Arabs, most of whom are Kurds anyway
Bismillah-irrahman-irrahim,
Elhamdu lillahi Rabbi'l-allemmin,
Er-Rahmani'r-rahim.
"Sellam-mallikum"
Tatar,Turk,Nogay,Dunnyadda Mussulman Kardeslerim,Birlesmek Olmammez Lazzimder,(Kerrekter),Bir-bizzimmizge Parmak Gostermek,Yetter.Sadde,Birbolsag
Kuv-vetly Bollariz
Cok. Yakinda birleseceyiz.
who told you this bullshit? please learn a bit about Oghuz people first before you pour your ignorance out here. Oghuz people have NIL indian/gypsy blood - this is genetically proven. Some found in Iran (4-5%) is the result of the Silk Road and very recent. Oghuz people are the ones who spread R1b and J2 haplogroups in the world and represent southern european race subtype. What's wrong with you???