Cheyenne Dog Soldiers vs Crow Warriors: The Death Song of One-Eyed Antelope (*Graphic Content*)
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- Опубліковано 9 вер 2024
- Join us for a look at intertribal warfare as HOKC delves into a little-known battle that took place between two tribes, 200 years ago.
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What a great narrative! We don't often get to hear about battles between only natives. Coverage of the Indian Wars is usually limited to US/Spain/Mexico versus natives.
This is by far one of the best Western History sites I have found please keep up the good work!
I’m from Wyoming and I can say for sure that Cheyenne is home to some real tough SOB’s.
On both sides!
RIP,,Great Warriors,,, Roman Nose , Tall Bull, Dull Knife,,,,,,,,Cheyenne
Everywhere is.
Thank you for sharing a piece of history that some people don't know and others don't want to know. There are many dark things that happened in the west even in the pre-Columbian times.
Thank you for watching!
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Amen it's always been that way
People living so close to death know what life truly means
Definitely not the same knowing as when we were seven years old and playing in the middle of a river with the cool currents and sun rays shinning down..thinking things will be happy forever ..that was my thoughts then..I wanted to stay and be a fish for at least a little while..I love that water
How right you zre.
Thank you for giving us a look at tribe on tribe reality. I’m more interested in this type of native history. 👍
Rase,Religion and different tribes have always been reasons for war. This is true today through out history. Thank you for this interesting story. Enjoyed 👍👍💯
@@TM-ch3hl for some yes, for the Spaniards and the Muslim of today's society it's religion.
Got to say that I really love this channel. It tells of real stories, from real people, real history. A great relative of mine as taken captive by the cheyenne age 6 and he lived with them until in his 50s his mother, my great great aunt, marrying a cheynne man. Dying a broken alcoholic man in his 60s in Wales according to my Gran. This is REAL history, unbiased and unbound. I like it very much. We need to face the real story, as brothers and sisters and learn and understand. I love this channel. My great grandfather was known as White Crow Killer because he defended his adopted people. I love the cheyenne and crow today because together, I am alive.
Enjoyed this story of how brave warriors did battle against their enemy. Amazing how through oral history a tribe will hear how their warriors met their end. Looking forward to viewing more of your historical videos. 💪🏼🙏🏻✨
Excellent presentation! You always manage to take us there. Thank you. More please.
Exceptionally well done. The mystique of the Noble Savage has never set well with me. It made them seem weak, which they obviously were not. Every peoples in history have warred against their neighbor.
I think the concept of the Noble Savage was naive but not patronising or paternalistic. It was an over romantic notion that there might be a society that was untainted by either urbanisation or the concept of commerce. Such a society would have no need of war. It would be an equal society of wise and articulate individuals that were not indoctrinated by either a dogmatic theology or political ideology. They would understand a vague and unexplained "natural philosophy". In many respects the notion of a Noble Savage was a reaction to organised religion. Unfortunately this notion has influenced both Fascist ideology and Marxist ideology, not least that of the Khmer Rouge. It has also influenced Trotsky with notions of the application of Scientific Communism.
They were rediculous lay strong an essentially Stone Age society capable of fighting a 300 year long war is mental safe to say a pre plague America would have driven off any settlers with little issue
@@nigelsheppard625 I'm curious I don't know that much about Trotsky what was "Scientific communism"?
Excellent artwork, photography and history.
Thank you watching! Much more coming soon!
Thanks for shedding some light on the little talked about subject of tribal warfare.
A movie made circa 1990s for video, LAST OF THE DOGMEN. Tom Berenger, Barbara Hershey, Kurtwood Smith about a lost tribe of Cheyenne Dog Soldiers. No battles, just about them accidently being discovered after 100 years, when last known whereabouts...
Well done, I appreciate your story. In our pop history culture, the war and battles between various Indian tribes is often forgotten. I did a similar video on a battle between the Crow and Blackfoot That occurred in a rock outcropping south of Cheyenne Wyoming.
What is your channel I would like to learn more about it
@@jenniferfloyd9179 Wyoming Traveler
@@WyomingTraveler oh thank you I will check it out, I love to learn everything I can about our history
A fabulous tale ! Great job !!
This is amazing thank you so much . I dont even know the other 2 battles you mentioned let alone this one . I knew these battles must of taken place but until now I've only had tiny pieces fragments keep history alive for those who forget their history are doomed to repeat it
Thank you for watching!
Wow! Sir I really like this, very educational i always wanted to know more about " the First inhabitants of this Great Country" !
Amazing history! Brave warriors. Turtle island ought to be filled with visually impressive and informative monuments to events such as these.
I have about as much Indian blood as Sen. Pocahontas but I looked into "our" tribe's experiences in Oklahoma versus the Comanches and the Cheyenne, which was hair raising. The US government would not protect the people living in Indian Territory from marauding bands of these fine folk that Hollywood lionizes. They often had to leave their homes and hide in the woods to stay alive. A distant cousin of mine wrote a book titled Winona Speaks which includes a lot of detail, which was awful.
Not to condone anything but as you said that particular group was in indian territory
Oh great a right wing nazi
@@flintsky7706 oh great, a left wing commie
FatAlbert
Is just another white hater
It's fashionable to hate white now
No one talks about the thousands of years of slavery in Africa, the middle east and Asia
You know, where the garden of eden existed
Maybe they weren't supposed to be in indian territory
Cheyenne Dog Soldiers were unbelievable. ,!
Thank you We need to under stand what the Native America did before we started showing up like in the EAST we new what each tribe did to each other for hunting grounds. If they had come to gather worked as one maybe the West would not have been lost . Ho well any things lost to time about these tribes history thanks again great story.
Look up the Shawnee chief Tecumseh, he tried to do just that and unite all the tries to take back at least a good part of the Ohio valley down into the south east
I've come across many references to inter-tribal warfare, but never knew where to look for some good history on it. Thanks for the video!
Thank you for watching! More coming soon!
Man am I glad I came upon his site. It is like I am right there and I am finding that young kids who are still fascinated by the old west love these nuggets of gold from HOKC. By young kids I mean tweens and young teens. It is still a magical time and era
I enjoy your programs very much.
Very Well Done!
Please keep up the good work.
“People are People.” SO True.
Really enjoyed the video.
Thanks for watching!
Some of these tribes still have a chip on their shoulder with each other even today.
Thanks this is what we need
Great content and awesome stories that were handed down of what actually happened there! I felt like I was right there and can imagine hearing One Eyes death song. Of that time before and decades after, the Cheyenne Dog Soldiers were fearsome and were one of the best elite Special Force warrior society’s, that ever existed! Thanks
Truly outstanding site. Thank you!!
Most of the Gros Ventres that I met in north central Montana still refer to the Crow as Custers Boys.
It’s probably not much different with the Cheyenne.
There's a lot of that, though it seems a tad unfair bc almost every tribe scouted for the Army against their adversaries. But the Crow are often blamed the most it seems.
Last weekend i visited a museum showing Native American gear.
Its sad to see what cultures are lost.
Excellent content and presentation. Thank you.
Thank you for watching! Much more to come.
Along similar lines, I recently read an account of a conversation reported by Daniel Boone. Looking at the huge mounds created by "native americans" or "Indians" Boone asked a local Indian chief who created those mounds. The Indian replied "It was not our people. They were built by the people we ran off the land when we arrived. We do not know where these people had come from nor where they went."
Now that archeology is discovering that the Asian migration took place in waves at different times, it seems likely that the "Indians" found in possession of what we call "The Americas" were the last victors in a chain of conquests from pre-history.
There was also the tribe called anasazi? In the southwest that were gone by the time Europeans arrived along with a couple of tribes that lived on and around the islands off of California.
I especially like your summing up at the end!
Excellent content, glad I stumbled on your channel. Subscribed.
Thank you! Much more to come!
We carry out experiences by very specific word of mouth from generation to generation. The stories are very specific and kept in the family or families. I know of family from thousands of years ago by simple word of mouth from family generations.
We are hoping to bring some light to the individual cultures and identities throughout and within the tribes of North and South America. Their stories all deserve to be told, and told from their side.
People are People. Well said, seams a truth we all should remember. Never go gentle into the good night. Enjoy your video.
Well said yourself! Thank you for watching!
Rough old days
Nice work. The Dog Soldiers tended to be older men
who stood and fought while the women and kids
could retreat. They were great and terrible fighters.
Yes! The only reason we didn't go further into detail is because we want to do an entire episode on the Dog Soldiers. They are so cool!
Great watch
This is really a great 👍 channel. Thank You
Thank you for watching!
Excellent story, excellent channel!
Thank you!
Love the stories
Love this kind of history.Plenty Coups is a good read
I like these stories, but it would be nice if you could share some of the sources you use. I'm fascinated to know how these stories were preserved.
Sources linked in description.
These are wonderful videos.
I don't have any blood but have always felt affinity.
Nice , good information. Reality perspective.
I have tried finding information on death songs in America, but have been unable to find good leads. What are some good sources to find out more?
Were any oral traditions or reenactments of One-Eyed-Antelope’s death song existing until the modern day? It would be amazing to see it or hear it!
Great tales keep it up well done
Thank you very very much for the interesting best definitely don't like each other like a brother thank you for the video interesting
To die bravely is hard to do.
I guess it helps if you trust the virtue of your leaders -- that leaves my pale face tribe out. Unless they work out a deal with Zelensky to live in one of his billion-dollar mansions when the current war is finished. 🤣
Where did you find the picture of the body with arrows in it and no hear I'm curious about the it
This practice was loosely interpreted as a vow of the stake and thong. A practice of multiple tribes, and traditionally done by older warriors as a sacrifice or diversion for the survival of the band. The dog men uniqueness was to ride well into the rear of the main camp to miss lead an enimie and fight to the death if needed. Again for the survival of the people. For me its also important to note that tribal names was what others referred them as. For the band itself only refers to themselves as our people. AI us and them.
I have been listening to the book of James Beckwourth, mountain man and chief of the Crow, narrated by him in his later years. It is amazing how much warfare there was between tribes, and the goal was to kill as many of the enemy as possible.,
We are just about to start that one! Beckwourth is an absolute legend. The warfare between tribes is so tragically unknown. We hope to bring honor to all sides involved. Thanks so much for wayching, let us know what you think of the book!
Warriors don't always win but always fight.
I came from an area just east of Trenton Nebraska. The Pawnee and Sioux had a horrible fight there that is known as Massacre Canyon. It’s quite the story.
It was also known as the last great Indian battle between two tribes.
That's when war was fun.
Intertribal wars among American Indians is an intriguing subject. Studying the subject makes you think which tribes you like & which tribes you don't like. The subject matter makes you think of tactics strategy & logistics in primitive terms.
As a long time student of Indian history I offer this comment - those tribes that had the most resources ie., guns, people generally took what they wanted from those who had less. When Indians talk about their sacred hunting grounds one has to ask who did they take it from? The Sioux Indians were originally woodland Indians prior to being pushed out of Minnesota onto the plains. Who was occupying the land before they arrived and they took it from them? The Crows?
Exactly. This has been going on for thousands of years all across the globe, no matter the color of ones skin it was always a fight for survival. Some lost, some won.
@@repetemyname842 But you tend to only lose the once!
The Apache, Navajo and Kiowa came from Canada,,,,,,,the Comanche broke from the Shoshone in Wyoming, Utah, Nevada area and took over the southern plains. The Arapaho came from Woodlands as well as Sioux, Cheyenne.
Please say Native American, saying indian to us non Americans makes us think of Indian subcontinentals just some word of advice
@@makeytgreatagain6256 Are you really that sensitive.?Come on.
In Japan this is called The Way. Warriors are not very different across many cultures and lands you will see this time and again. The techniques will differ the songs will have different tunes. To dismiss these people as savages or primitive is to ignore their humanity.
Excellent point!
Dog Soldiers had the right idea concerning the death stake. They'd pound in a stake and strap themselves to it... They could neither flatter their enemy with retreat nor walk into a bad spot. Let them come to you... "Good day to die" is usually attributed to the Sioux Crazy Horse but it was a pretty usual battle cry. It makes sense, it neither ends nor gets any better, and many people figured if destiny allows, today is the day I choose to die. Too much aggression makes you walk into one pitfall or another, while retreat is flattery.
This makes a lot of sense to me.
Curious. If this battle occurred pre- European arrival on N. America, why did both the Chyenne and Crow have horses and firearms?
Awesome, very cool.
This sort tribal skirmish probably happened countless times for hundreds of years and those accounts are mostly lost in time. It is so fortunate that some of these have survived to be told of what life was like for the First Nations of America.
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Thank you! Much more content to come.
I'm only a half breed, from an eastern tribe, but our elders told this story.
Im a Native American too.
Indigenous is indigenous the % doesn’t matter.
Reminds me of Crow Butte in South Dakota. North of the Black Hills. Maybe you have all the info on that?
We will get the research team on it. Thank you for the lead!
They are nations.
As different from each other as Spaniards are from Russians or Danes from Armenians.
Different language groups, migration histories, religions, physical features, cultures, diet, etc.
The made war, created alliances, lost and conquered territories, split and merged, disappeared and arose as peoples over the centuries.
The Crow were almost wiped out by their enemies especially the Lakota that's why they were some of the best scouts for the Americans.
pretty good stuff; especially the reality part.
Wait a minute......
Everybody knows the tribes didn't have the concept of owning the land. They lived in harmony and respected each others safe spaces
There should of been more western films about tribe warfare as most of the films were based on cowboys/soldiers at war with the Indians. I think it would of been amazing to get an insight view of what tribe warfare was like back then
Was inter-tribal warfare overlooked or flatly ignored for political correctness?
Brutal life.
Miwa'tani, acikita, Oglala Lakota ✊🏽
Nothing has changed
nice video
These are amazing accounts. Looking at art depictions I am curious if we know when did tribes abandon use of armor? Was it never used? Every culture that I can think of that reached complexity described here used armor to protect from arrows, javelins etc. They clearly used shields, lances, bows. Next clear step would be some sort of chest plate, helmet, thigh armor
Do we have any idea how these battles looked like before the guns?
People are people. That simple statement explains all
HOLD ON! You mean our Native American Sisters & Brothers were Not living in peace and harmony, treading lightly upon the earth?
I am from Sheridan and buffalo wyoming. I had never heard of standing crow creek. As you mentioned it is by the fetterman and wagon box sites is it by story wyoming? Is the creek named something else now? I'd like to go find it and get a real idea of the encounter that went down from the place itself.
there is a lot not talked about in plains warfare, this gives a vary simple view
Respect between enemies wasn't and still isn't a thing
Cannibalism was.
Pappy Crow did told me the story.
Reminds me of a saying
History is written by the Victor, unfortunately it often times isn't correct
History should instead be written by the observer, Switzerland, neutral territory however and whatever shape Switzerland falls into
What a species. The good ole days.
Imagine so much killing Almost none of these men became grandfathers. Not a very good life.
Don't forget there were plenty of tribes that disputed defended and fought over territories that each claimed as their own
and Undoubtedly this is reflected throughout the History of mankind....just
look at the many cultures tribes and clans that clashed in Asia Europe Africa South America
every where there are resources for the essentials to support life results in a compition for survival and territories....My Ancestry is Nordic Scandinavian the flaming Vikings who fought and raided amounst their clans and tribes aswell as everyone else.
So what happened to just "counting coup," and riding off?
Guess you do more when there is bad blood between tribes .
Hollywood
The truth is ugly but refreshing..
Wow that is well said! Thank you for watching!
But the intelligentsia say that the American Indians lived in peace and harmony before the White Man.
They couldn’t invent the wheel. After seeing how many logs rolling down a hill.
Maybe someone knows something about a big battle between Comanche and Black Foot .I only remember Blackfoot lost the battle with heavy casualties.
Same gos for NZ it was extinction in war
Finally, reality
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Their is Harley any movies on tribal war fair and their greatest battle..
How come they never talk about my tribe? Lakota nation?
4:09 "...finding themselves surrounded on all sides..." as opposed to surrounded on one or two sides? If it didn't involve all sides, it wouldn't be "surrounded".