[PC-88] Dragon Slayer (1984) (Nihon Falcom)
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2025
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The NEC PC-88's high resolution modes had scanlines that appear terribly distorted when forced to a lower resolution.
I had to snip about two minutes out of the middle of the video.
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“- and every time the player takes a step, it’ll play a note from ‘The Entertainer’ by Scott Joplin”
Thank you for posting this. I really enjoy learning about the dragon slayer series of games.
this is both beautiful and painful. i would have loved this as a kid!
懐かしさのあまりに目頭が熱くなってきた。
PC88のドラスレのRTAとか観てみたくなったよ。
The things we did for games in the 80s
Notice this: Unless you put down the ring, you CANNOT take anything.
"Oh goodnessness, i seemst to foundeth a couplesness of potionful! But my gracefullest beingness carriest the ringth! Oh the godseth, what musth i dough? Oh, rightest! My modestnest beingness must puth downer the ringth!"
It's not the first. That would be Panorama Island (again made by falcom). It's kinda like the whole Doom/Wolfenstein thing.
This is fascinating, but it gives me a headache to watch.
You're supposed to slay the dragon, not slain by him!
これだけいろいろなことができるゲームはなかった。プログラムの質も高いし素晴らしい。
Lemme just push my house over here...
Is there anywhere to download this? And to a link WITHOUT need of credit card info?
Still interested?
@@civilians4326 I am. :)
Am I imagining things, or does the "music" when he's walking around at about 0:50 sound kinda like Scott Joplin's The Entertainer?
I was looking to see if someone else noticed it. I thought it was random bleeps and bloops until I heard the melody. "Wait a second..."
If you're really into Legend of Heroes, don't start with Trails, don't even start with LOH: Dragon Slayer, start with the original Dragon Slayer 1984, now that's what I call a true fan.
And so damn close to slaying the three-headed fire-breathing dragon.
Well, guys, here we are.
The FIRST Japanese Action RPG!
Show this to James Rolphe, he's gonna have a heart attack (Judging from his reaction to Hydlide)
He’ll probably think it’s a fucking Tower of Druaga ripoff or some shit. Like how he constantly compared Hydlide to Zelda. Like “Oh, a superior arcade game that came out in the same year is way better than the world’s first PC action role playing game!!!” I like the AVGN, but honestly his Hydlide review wasn’t the most fair. I actually like that game. Thanks, James, for introducing me to it. I got my copy for free BTW. There was a “buy 2 cartridges and get one off the bargain shelf for free” deal at my local game store just the other day.
His Sonic 06 review is even worse
Watching this video again and came across my old comment, and.......Oh, my GOD!! Did I really say all that crap 2 years ago?! Ugh, I must’ve been talking out my ass. I haven’t touched my copy of Hydlide since when I posted my previous comment, and I have coincidentally been playing a shitload of Legacy of the Wizard recently, which is actually part of the Dragon Slayer series. God, I’m cringing so hard at this criticism I gave. Disregard all that crap I said in my old comment........ I was a dumb 17 and a half year old who thought he was hot shit for having a unique opinion. Now I’m a college student who knows a good game when he sees one and runs his own video game development “company” for extra side money. Oh god, reading my old comment from 2-3 years ago makes me wanna puke!!!
@@leroyvisiongames2294 I thought Hydlide is kinda good.
@@KeyleeTamirian Well it was good when it was made back in 1984, but releasing the game in the West as late as 1989 didn't help its status lol. I've played three versions of Hydlide, the PC-88 version, the Windows remake version, and the NES version (which in my opinion is the best version.) The way the game plays with all of its cryptic puzzles and the bump combat system makes a lot more sense after having played The Tower of Druaga, since you can definitely see the inspiration from Druaga shine in Hydlide (I'm not saying it's a rip-off of course, Hydlide very well has its own identity.) I can't recommend the game to anyone (or even call it a good game at that), but at the same time it's something I'm happy to have played. And as for Matt Ring's comment, well I still see merit in your original comment lol. I also love AVGN's and ProJarad's videos on Hydlide, and while I do think it would be neat if the game got more respect for being a sort of pioneer for action RPGs (as it got pretty dang popular in Japan), their points definitely stand. It was a very unnecessary release in 1989, and it even could've been done to market off of Zelda for all I know. Early Action RPGs are a very fun rabbit hole to get into, and unlike Hydlide I can actually recommend some ports of The Tower of Druaga to people.
I also recommend Hydlide 3. Hydlide 3 is good.
Or maybe I just have bad taste idk
The walking sounds are playing The Entertainer.
Huh... so this is what Dragon Slayer looks like.
Man, this is pretty much the definition of 'retro'. This is the first JRPG ever made, right?
To call it a rpg is a bit of a stretch, considering this game is a dungeon crawler with no npc or dialogue.
@@LunarTactician Yeah it´s difficult to say. The first JRPG as long as i know is the first Dragon Quest (1986), with turned based combat, plot and full dialogue with NPC´s. And i say JRPG, not RPG. Because before Dragon Quest, was Ultima and Wizardry, but with Western RPG Style.
The fact is that Yuji Horii, creator of Dragon Quest was inspired in Ultima and Wizardry before he created Dragon Quest.
There were other Japanese rpgs before this. Check out Panorama Island. Whether or not they are 'JRPGs' or just 'RPGs made in Japan' is a whole other can of worms.
@@LunarTactician Npcs and dialogue are not required for it to be classed as an jrpg.
wow, u did a great job playing this game
look like u know what is going on as well
@stripedhyenuh - Man, I thought it was just me. Thank you for confirming that yes, that is indeed The Entertainer, for some reason. (:
年代物のゲームだ。ファルコムがあるのはこのゲームソフトおかげです。
I have no idea what the hell is going on in this game. Still want it, though!
Try it on the Falcom anthology for Sega Saturn.
Behold the birth of Nihon Falcom the *KING OF JRPG!*
I agree Nihon Falcom games are a blast. And I usually get bored really quick with JRPGs.
@@AngryCalvin Nihon Falcom games are a blast, but you get bored wait what?
@@YhelloWish he gets bored by other jrpg xd
This REALLY has vibes of Ultima (although I am well aware I could be stepping into a time paradox with that statement)
古いゲームだけど、今でもリメイクしたら普通に遊べそう。
ドラゴンスレイヤーの動作画面初めて見た。歩いてる音は映画"スティング"からですかね。
This game is considered the "Father" of ARPGs like Diablo, PoE, Last epoch etc... I'd agree.
@ModelOz
If you still haven't played a Dragon Quest game yet, then I recommend you try out Dragon Quest V, which is, in my opinion, one of the best RPGs I've ever played. It was originally released for the SNES in 1992, but there are PS2 and DS remakes available for it, though the DS remake would be more ideal since it has more additions than the PS2 one.
Please do the whole series of Dragon Slayer : D
I'm finding the way to play the whole series :/
But the great wall of language stand before me (I can only find Japanese version of roms D:)
I personally know this game from epoc cassette vision as a kid, I thought it was the best game ever. I loved RPG‘s I was stupid I seriously love this game for some weird reason😅.
@ModelOz
The earliest JRPG I know of was Koei's 1982 game "Danchizuma no Yuwaku", an early hybrid of RPG, graphic adventure, and uh, hentai.
There are also two JRPGs I know of from 1983: "Bokosuka Wars", the progenitor of strategy RPGs (as well as an early real-time strategy and tower defense), and "Nobunaga's Ambition", the first turn-based grand strategy RPG.
And then in 1984, the first action RPGs were released: Dragon Slayer, soon followed by Tower of Druaga, Dragon Buster, and Hydlide.
I thought Temple of Apshai and Gateway to Apshai were action-RPGs. and they both came out before 1984
@@gamerprince-tl5hg The Apshai games are definitely not action RPGs. Temple of Apshai is a turn-based RPG. Gateway to Apshai is an action-adventure (with no actual RPG mechanics, like Zelda).
Correction (9 years later) - Tower of Druaga came first in 1984, followed by Dragon Slayer, Hydlide, and then Dragon Buster. However, Druaga could be considered an action-adventure (like Zelda), which would make Dragon Slayer the first true action RPG.
@LordKarnov42
Dragon Slayer may not have had as much influence on Dragon Quest, but it was certainly the progenitor of the emerging action RPG genre. In the same way Dragon Quest was the blueprint for turn-based JRPGs, Dragon Slayer was the blueprint for action RPGs. In fact, even the Final Fantasy series took inspiration from the Dragon Slayer series, imitating the way it always changed the gameplay system for each installment in the series.
I would like to see this alluded to in a zelda game, as a hylian fairytale or something...
There’s actually a little nod to Hydlide in Zelda (hydlide being another early RPG for the PC-88). The part where you have to burn down the bush to find the stairwell leading to level 8 could likely be a reference or a nod to the part in Hydlide where you have to burn down a tree with Fire magic to reveal a secret dungeon near a castle.
Probably the first RPG ever.
+Oliver Draathelvete It wasn't, but it was the first Action RPG ever.
It's kinda neat that one of the new Trails games has an optional action combat mode since it's in the same series as Dragon Slayer, it feels appropriate considering its lineage (since Dragon Slayer created the action RPG genre).
I don't suppose there's a way to skip the opening ditty? :(
I refuse to accept this as an RPG. There's no battle engine! It's an action-adventure game like The Legend of Zelda. You can't even fight until you complete the first puzzle (getting the sword).
I hear ya. But Dragon Slayer does have experience points, which means your character gains "levels". That fact makes Dragon Slayer less like The Legend of Zelda and more like The Adventure of Link--the latter of which is usually classified as an RPG.
@@PCGamer77 Right. XP is what many people argue makes something an RPG. How's that different to gaining additional heart slots or gaining abilities by getting new items?
I've gotta say, when I played table top games back in the day my having gained points that could be indirectly used to augment my character's ability wasn't what made it felt like a _role playing_ game. However, having both battle bits and story/exploration bits with different mechanics for each is what really differentiated it from, say Axis & Allies, in my mind. So, I've naturally applied the same logic to the definition of RPG video games ever since
@@PCGamer77 Sorry. I've had this discussion with a few gamer friends over the years and no one's been able to give me reason for the points-based definition beyond _argumentum ad populum_ , so I've stuck to my guns. Didn't mean to sound zealous.
It does get a bit tricky with VATS being optional in Fallout.
@@RubelliteFae LOL. Gamers are a very passionate people. :)
@@RubelliteFae "How's that different to gaining additional heart slots or gaining abilities by getting new items?"
I think the difference in Zelda 1 & 2 is between "finding" additional slots and "earning" said slots through successful combats. It's pretty subtle. Which is why most people just go ahead and call Zelda 1 an RPG.
Interesting game. I just dont understand why player get over chests. Does anythyng happens? In other things it is ok dungeon game.
Dragon Slayer II: Xanadu
Exactly. Dragon Slayer took the idea of changing the gameplay of each sequel much further than Final Fantasy did. Either way, there's no doubt about it that Squaresoft borrowed that idea from Dragon Slayer, since they were the publisher for the MSX port of that game.
Razor Edge I have to oppose to that. Final Fantasy was inspired by Ultima and Wizardry, the first RPGs ever that were translated and brought to Japan. Another Inspiration was the pen-and-paper RPG Dungeons and Dragons which was like a simulation of a turn-based RPG where the players could choose their stats and skills (later with more restrictions in their character build, when the class system was added). Since Final Fantasy was originally a turn-based RPG game it has no connection with Dragon Slayer.
Honesty I think that was just an artefact of figuring out what else you could do within the hardware restrictions and then getting a whole new system to design for every 3 games or so.
@@ultimalisa The fact is that Yuji Horii, the creator of Dragon Quest (1986) was inspired in Ultima and Wizardry. So Final Fantasy that was released in 1987, for sure was inspired on Dragon quest. Those games are too similar.
@@Mithrandirkun I see. For sure Dragonslayer was an important source of inspiration for the upcoming Final Fantasy games. I haven't looked too much into it. Thanks for correcting me. ✌
@@ultimalisa No worries. I´m not correcting anyone. We just learn about videogame history. 6 months ago I made a mini-documentary video+gameplay in my youtube channel about the origins of Dragon Quest. But it is in Spanish.
Now in the same way i´m making a similar video about the YS saga, and if you want to speak about the origins of Nihon Falcom, you have also to speak about Dragon Slayer. Cheers! ✌
I do not want to play this but it seems like it has potential. So I like I'll just play the sequels.
@LordKarnov42 Well, yeah, I knew that Dragon Quest was more of the original blueprint game of JRPGs, just trying to figure out what the first ever 'JRPG' made was. You know, so I can possibly brag about how awesome Falcom is. :D
Though it's funny. I pride myself on playing RPGs, yet I've never played a Dragon Quest game. XD
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やりてーわ！
Strange that the Dragon Slayer series began with such a bad seeming game.
zzasdfwas it's unplayable nowadays but it was special for its time
Ver1.0 desuna
同時4歳くらいでやってました
もちろん意味わからず
This looks bad and great at the same time! I wanna play
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