Not too soon for me. Their ppvs are always brilliant and don't need help, whereas the heights of their ratings have dipped so it makes sense to have this in a big TV show to continue to rejuvenate that and maybe bring eyes back.
I was pitching when Ospreay signed, after he has his initial “happy to be here” babyface run, you turn the Don Callis family into United Empire. They already have (or at least had) a diverse group of nationalities, with Fletcher, Takeshita, Hobbs, Rush, Sammy. Now though, remake Empire with Ospreay, Davis and Fletcher. Put them against Takeshita and *a team* for the Don Callis Family.
If your build for a match is on a show some people watch, and a show almost nobody watches, that really doesn't count, especially if it isn't referenced
@@nalidhardstyle8551 Pretty sure they did reference it on commentary, but flip side of your own argument just because you aren't aware of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
@alanrapp3261 isn't about whether it technically exists or not, it's about whether it's effectively communicated. Just because there is theoretically a reason behind it, which you can find out if you happen to watch the b and c show, doesn't mean its been built up effectively. your audience not knowing the story you're telling is functionally identical to it not having been told
@@nalidhardstyle8551 Not saying it was perfectly executed, just saying it was far from "random" and I don't think holding someone reviewing the show to a slightly higher standard than a part-time viewer is that much to ask. Comparatively, Fightful noted the connection right away.
You're right to be disappointed with the women's division, but I will say, as far as DQ's go, I like that Mariah May did it, because she's someone who canonically shouldn't care about this match as much as she cares about her irrational hatred for this happy-go-lucky girl who thought she could challenge her. Don't get me wrong, there's much more they could do to get this feud more over, but they are doing well at making it a complete and utter Heel versus a complete and utter Babyface.
that was botch of a premier but yes its too soon for Ricochet vs Will.that is something that should have at least a month of build and interactions behind not on a dynamite.Look at bryan danielson Vs Kenny. People thought that was gonna be a whole program and it wasn't it just that one match they for battle of the belts(I believe that's what it was) Also how is will gona say "get your wins up" and then give him a shot after 3 matches? 3 matches!!
Always know whenever someone on this podcast starts a conversation with i went on twitter i know its not a good idea The only piece of feedback I've seen before this podcast was on social media where i saw someone throwing the race card at moxley and AEW for thst hammer attsck combine that with race complaints with people clutching at straws with the hangman page swerve all out match because hangman has hang in his nickname and you know with swerve and all that. Its full of silly nonsense and kinda comical at times As for the show Fun show I feel really bad for jeff Jarrett's character with him saying the words if its the last thing he does in his career he'll whoop hangman butt Because especially with what hangman did to swerve at all out Hangman could arrange that for jeff to be the last thing he ever did in not just his career but life I'll tell ya that all out cage match made me fear for anyone who goes near or even looks at hangman in storyline on tv as a character Apart of me is looking forward to swerves return but slso dresding it because of how far it will continue to go And i love it
Yet another ludicrous thumbnail of the 'let's take a ridiculous Twitter take, make it seem like it's a legitimate talking point, disagree with it inside in the first two seconds of the review' variety
Personally would prefer them to double down on the strong style presentation they had originally and best Yuta to fire him up but it goes too far and Yuta is the one to walk out and it's justified, that way you can continue the feud with Mox and Danielson
I would’ve held off on Ospreay/Ricochet till WrestleDream, but that’s just me. It’s a big Dynamite it’s happening on, so it’s not a big deal at the end of the day
So you put the title "Too soon" on, yet in the past you have complained about us not getting dream matches because they took too long to pull the trigger. Which do you want?
I seldom jump in, but I think you’re underestimating or understating the crowds reaction to Yuka. They always love her. I don’t think you needed a lengthy build to Grand Slam…plenty of valid point otherwise, I just don’t think this is as big of an issue as you’re making it out to be (paraphrasing Luke’s forum posts from 2006 😂)
I want AEW to just capitalize on a star…. We wanted wardlow , the acclaimed, now beast Mortis like plz just stop dropping hot stories and wrestlers plzzzz.. oh and see yall in reading
We got Prince Puma v Mortos last night!
No we didn't
@@ll51019ummm... Ricochet is Prince Puma... so yeah, we did
Not too soon for me. Their ppvs are always brilliant and don't need help, whereas the heights of their ratings have dipped so it makes sense to have this in a big TV show to continue to rejuvenate that and maybe bring eyes back.
For someone who hates Twitter Luke sure does mention Twitter a lot
It's literally his job
yall make this comment every video bruh we get it
Another one, stop being an idiot 🤦🏽
For someone that hates Luke you sure comment about him a lot
@@SeeingShadowscause he always bangs on about how he’s deleted Twitter and doesn’t use it anymore
I watch this show every week and subscribe to the channel, but UA-cam did not put it in my subscription feed this week.
Beast mortos like cant have a bad match i swear
I was pitching when Ospreay signed, after he has his initial “happy to be here” babyface run, you turn the Don Callis family into United Empire. They already have (or at least had) a diverse group of nationalities, with Fletcher, Takeshita, Hobbs, Rush, Sammy.
Now though, remake Empire with Ospreay, Davis and Fletcher. Put them against Takeshita and *a team* for the Don Callis Family.
Women's tag came out of matches on Rampage or Collision. Could have gotten more time but calling it random is a bit harsh
If your build for a match is on a show some people watch, and a show almost nobody watches, that really doesn't count, especially if it isn't referenced
@@nalidhardstyle8551 Pretty sure they did reference it on commentary, but flip side of your own argument just because you aren't aware of it doesn't mean it doesn't exist.
@alanrapp3261 isn't about whether it technically exists or not, it's about whether it's effectively communicated. Just because there is theoretically a reason behind it, which you can find out if you happen to watch the b and c show, doesn't mean its been built up effectively. your audience not knowing the story you're telling is functionally identical to it not having been told
@@nalidhardstyle8551 Not saying it was perfectly executed, just saying it was far from "random" and I don't think holding someone reviewing the show to a slightly higher standard than a part-time viewer is that much to ask. Comparatively, Fightful noted the connection right away.
Never got The Elite vs Undisputed Era... don't let your dreams be dreams TK.
PPV's happen quite often. Anniversaries are very rare, so 5 years definitely warrents Will vs Richochet
@@Tombobuck stupid
But will it warrant a Shane McMahon debut lol that's the real question heading into the show
Fair, but with that reasoning I wish they would promote it a little sooner.
I now want a remake of The Prisoner starring Orange Cassidy.
Why is it "Too Soon?" and not "Will vs Ricochet!"
You think hangman will retire JJ, theyve kinda been having their own feud, jj is becoming face and getting older. Its not crazy
Luchasaurus and Beast Mortus...tag team
You're right to be disappointed with the women's division, but I will say, as far as DQ's go, I like that Mariah May did it, because she's someone who canonically shouldn't care about this match as much as she cares about her irrational hatred for this happy-go-lucky girl who thought she could challenge her.
Don't get me wrong, there's much more they could do to get this feud more over, but they are doing well at making it a complete and utter Heel versus a complete and utter Babyface.
Remember Wardlow?
Who?
Tony doesn't
@@xHARDCORE5150x daaaaaaamn true that
He’s been replaced with the persistent thought of making Wheeler Whota a thing
Pepridge farms remembers
Wait, when Ricochet came back and lost The Gauntlet Match, twitter said he was buried. Now it’s “too soon”for him to face Will? WTF?
People just find a way to make excuses
that was botch of a premier but yes its too soon for Ricochet vs Will.that is something that should have at least a month of build and interactions behind not on a dynamite.Look at bryan danielson Vs Kenny. People thought that was gonna be a whole program and it wasn't it just that one match they for battle of the belts(I believe that's what it was) Also how is will gona say "get your wins up" and then give him a shot after 3 matches? 3 matches!!
Twitter isn't one account...
I miss Pete
Jobber pete?
Always know whenever someone on this podcast starts a conversation with i went on twitter i know its not a good idea
The only piece of feedback I've seen before this podcast was on social media where i saw someone throwing the race card at moxley and AEW for thst hammer attsck combine that with race complaints with people clutching at straws with the hangman page swerve all out match because hangman has hang in his nickname and you know with swerve and all that. Its full of silly nonsense and kinda comical at times
As for the show
Fun show
I feel really bad for jeff Jarrett's character with him saying the words if its the last thing he does in his career he'll whoop hangman butt
Because especially with what hangman did to swerve at all out
Hangman could arrange that for jeff to be the last thing he ever did in not just his career but life
I'll tell ya that all out cage match made me fear for anyone who goes near or even looks at hangman in storyline on tv as a character
Apart of me is looking forward to swerves return but slso dresding it because of how far it will continue to go
And i love it
Yet another ludicrous thumbnail of the 'let's take a ridiculous Twitter take, make it seem like it's a legitimate talking point, disagree with it inside in the first two seconds of the review' variety
I think we do a good show with great matches on grand slam, then all returns and debuts on 5th anniversary to make it huge
Did the Smackdown and Collision reviews just die or something, what is happening?
Think hangman should retire Jeff and become the last outlaw
What if BCC walk off on Yuta costing him and themselves the trios tag titles
Personally would prefer them to double down on the strong style presentation they had originally and best Yuta to fire him up but it goes too far and Yuta is the one to walk out and it's justified, that way you can continue the feud with Mox and Danielson
I love Beast Mortos. Him and Hologram would make the weirdest best team.
I would’ve held off on Ospreay/Ricochet till WrestleDream, but that’s just me. It’s a big Dynamite it’s happening on, so it’s not a big deal at the end of the day
I want to see ricochet join The Hurt Syndicate if they join AEW.
Gotta be a rematch at wrestledream surely
yeah we should have had them be a team with at least 3 years of constant break up teases before they have a match come on AEW get it together!
if ricochet dont beat ospreay then ricochet wont amount to anythink else then a midcarder.
I thought the same thing about jimmy uso at mania 40. Unfortunately, the answer is they WONT amount to anything more than a midcarder
Great show boys I personally have never been a Jericho fan. But it's getting worse he's bad
It’s not too soon. I have tickets for that show and all I wanted was to see Osprey and Riccochet. Even better that they will face each other!!
So you put the title "Too soon" on, yet in the past you have complained about us not getting dream matches because they took too long to pull the trigger.
Which do you want?
AEW blowing their load too early? nooo, never! not building it to a huge showdown over time? sounds about right. And of course Luke defends it.
I seldom jump in, but I think you’re underestimating or understating the crowds reaction to Yuka. They always love her. I don’t think you needed a lengthy build to Grand Slam…plenty of valid point otherwise, I just don’t think this is as big of an issue as you’re making it out to be (paraphrasing Luke’s forum posts from 2006 😂)
I thought last nights show suckeddddddd. Couple bright spots but LEADING wirh a 20 minute jericho match in 2024 is instant go away heat.
Dynamite 688,000 NXT 677,000
I want AEW to just capitalize on a star…. We wanted wardlow , the acclaimed, now beast Mortis like plz just stop dropping hot stories and wrestlers plzzzz.. oh and see yall in reading
Where's Oli?!? I always agree with Oli's takes on wrestling, like 99% of the time, so I need him on the AEW content! Lol