Lowrance Ghost vs. Garmin Force vs. MotorGuide Tour Pro: Which Is Best? | Bass Fishing
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- Опубліковано 29 сер 2024
- We compared the features between the Pro Tour, Ghost, and Force trolling motors, and then reveal this! Watch to the surprising end! These 3 NEW motors were debuted at ICAST 2019 (the Ultrex is an older model). All motors were recorded at about the same speed.
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Again, this video was NOT designed to be an underwater sound test under controlled lab conditions. We discovered the sound issues it AFTER it was filmed. The video was and still is designed to compare the latest trolling motors from an end-user standpoint. We're merely reporting what we experienced. It was not a "sound test".
The Ultrex was not a new model, so it was not included. This only included the new motors introduced at ICAST 2019. Thank you.
Ok I get it, but I was left wondering why you did not have an Ultrex in your "test comparison" for a baseline.
Thanks for the recent trolling motor comparison review, including Ghost. Glen, To be clear, your review is comparing pre-production models, and that should certainly be noted. We’ve been quite clear that Lowrance will not start shipping Ghost until later this year, and it’s currently on schedule for November delivery. Providing comparison tests on products that are not yet being produced for consumer often sends the wrong message, and that’s certainly the case here. Thanks for giving us the chance to comment on this. There are a number of other factors that could have led to the difference in noise that you’ve shown - microphone distance, angle, power control, etc. - but there’s no need to go into that here. We’ll simply let the final production Ghost do the talking, rather than the pre-production model that was shown at ICAST, several months before production.
Pro anglers and weekend warriors tested our motor in the real world and were told to run it HARD. There were several thousand
hours logged and specific test results that were gathered. We have confidence in this motor and we are backing it with a 3-year warranty, plus a lifetime warranty on the lower composite shaft.
Hi Lowrance,
Actually, this was indeed a production model. When I asked Mike Iaconelli, who demonstrated the Ghost for us, “So when is this going to be available?” he replied “So this thing is being launched this week, ICAST 2019. In the next couple of weeks, you're going to see select retailers getting it.” You can see the proof in this video: ua-cam.com/video/CW5EfDigkSc/v-deo.html
So yes, the unit in the video is a production model.
But let’s just pretend for a moment it wasn’t. You’re saying it will be available in November. Note that when we shot the MotorGuide model that same day, they said theirs wasn’t shipping until January 2020 - several months after yours.
By your reasoning, theirs was less further along in development than yours, yet theirs was the quietest motor of all. So that certainly voids your argument.
And finally, the videos were shot at the same distance away from the motors, with the same camera, at the same speeds, etc. All of that info is repeated several times in the comment section below this video.
All that said, this video was not intended to bash Lowrance in any way whatsoever. In fact, if you watch the whole thing, it depicts many of the cool, innovative features that Lowrance is introducing to the world. Lowrance has a very long, solid history of making great products, and I’m sure the Ghost will be no different. The smart engineers at Lowrance will ensure it.
It would be great if you took the time to view and comment on the Ghost review video I posted here: ua-cam.com/video/CW5EfDigkSc/v-deo.html which I’m certain you’ll like!
Thanks!
So, did this noise issue ever get resolved? I’ve look all over the internet and can’t find any updates. I have been considering this motor since it has become public, but this noise issue needs to be addressed first.
Lowrance....If you logged several hours, release your own comparison video with production models instead of making excuses. After all, these were Garmin and Motorguudes pre-production models as well and they wiped the floor with the Lowrance.
I purchased the Ghost just a week ago. The motor is far superior to the Ultrex and much much quieter. My motor does not sound like the test motor at all. I also like the optional 3 in 1 nose cone with side and down scan that installs so easy. At last I can have structure scan on my trolling motor without rigging something that can easily be broken. There is zero point on having structure scan on the TM if your view is from the transom!!
FINALY. Someone compares the underwater noise of trolling motors. I'd like to hear a comparison of ALL motors within a given price range or feature set, EVEN it it's out of the water just comparing in the open air. With under 5HP electric outboards (much more popular in Europe) it's common to see them displayed side by side, where you can spin them up. You can't turn them, (let's stay out of the prop folks) but you can compare one to another. The difference in noise is often huge from brand to brand.
My blender when I crush ice at home for smoothies is quieter than the lowrance ghost!😂
Excellent comparison on all these new trolling motors that are getting ready to hit the market. Definitely an ear opener regarding the Lowrance Ghost. I hope they work this noise issue out and I hope they're not trying to push this product out without doing all the necessary assessments to ensure the bass anglers are getting the best product out there. If they don't make the corrections necessary to dampen the sound they may want to call it the Lowrance Whiner instead of the Ghost.. Great video and thanks.
Thanks for the support, Brian Miller, and thanks for watching!
Great information! Thank you for giving us RAW reviews. No sugar coating and no ass kissing of sponsors!
When you can... Please do an underwater sound check of the Ultrex 112. Thanks.
It's an older model that wasn't debuted at this year's ICAST. This video compares the newest motors.
This motor has preformed very well. Easy to install and almost too fast for my little 11.3 Basstender boat. Smooth and very quiet. Very easy to use. I would purchase it again.
Most unbiased review I've seen yet.
Thanks for the support, Zach Shott, and thanks for watching!
I like the motorguide trolling motor the best out of the other 2 it’s the motorguide for me it just sounded the best to me and it’s more simple as well I like everything about the new motorguide
Very interesting indeed. I was so excited to hear about a Lowrance trolling unit having been a longtime Lowrance HDS and Motorguide Xi5 user. After hearing that noise and not offering anything "game changing" with a $3k price tag... i'll likely keep using my Xi5. Thanks for the video and information. It almost sounds like my next purchase might end up being a full Garmin setup.
Thanks for watching Bennett Built!
I really appreciate the raw footage and not hiding the truth. In the world of boats and fishing there are a lot of gimmicks and it’s real reviews like this that save the average fisherman time and money
Thanks for the support, Zach Allen, and thanks for watching!
Many comments on the ease for people with mobility issues, Minn kota Ulterra doesn't even require being near the motor to deploy and stow. Minn Kota's have served me well on my bay boats for many years. Even though these new models appear to be for bass boats, I would defiantly want to see a few years in use prior to spending $3k+ on a trolling motor. One advantage with the new Motorguide, they have been a trolling motor leader for many years.
Talking underwater noise and the bass guys all about power poles! I had a 10' Blade on my last bay boat, which defiantly has pro's but has some con's. Debating (2) 12' Talons for new bay boat instead of Power Poles. There are underwater videos of Power pole vs Talon, unreal how loud the hydraulic motor sound is under water on the PP.
Makes me glad I bought the Garmin. If I could just get the guys that make the submarine props to crank me out one. But then that shape is classified. But then that shape is larger spins slower and would probably catch more grass, but it would look cool and be way quieter.
Need a spotlock/anchor comparison
finally the review I’ve been waiting for. I can’t believe that loud Lowrance, wow! I believe I’m leaning more towards the Motorguide simply for the break away feature. It’s basically like my minn Kota maxxum, but better. Really liking the Motorguide especially now after seeing this. Thanks
Glad you liked it! Thanks for watching.
Ghost has breakaway and is the quietest of the 3 by far
@@leems1976jl did you even watch this video man it's the loudest that's what everyone is talking about
Best demo of these units I have seen. Great job.
Wow, thanks!
really would like to see the underwater sound comparison with the Ultrex. great video and information.
Ultrex is brushed and will always be louder than a brushless
@@v8consumption Motorguide is brushed and it was just as quiet. Brushless doesn't mean quieter, it means more efficient.
Ultrex is louder .
Have compared personally
This is why I stayed with Garmin. The sound. I went Garmin on everything bc the sound and I can link it all up. I just also like to stick with one brand. Getting my new z19 in a few weeks or less so maybe if Lowrance gets it together I'll try them out someday.
What screens you running 8612?
Pretty good idea putting a camera with sound. That's a game changer. You're so smart Glenn.
Nice! We love to hear feedback like this. Thanks for being a loyal viewer!
My Garmin will be here tomorrow. If ordering one the best way I found was the Garmin store on Amazon. Make sure you buy the 2 year extra warranty for 169.00 I believe and also make sure you buy the Garmin female plug for your boat. I chose Garmin because I have 3 garmin sv units with live scope already and was tired of the prop noise distortion on my screen when viewing side imagining. Not only that I got a free T54HD upgrade from my 52's SI for free as a bonus.
Just saw this review... Pick up my boat on Tuesday. At least it looks like I made a good decision with the garmin. Can't wait to get out on the water and get the lines wet!!!
You got that right! Thanks for watching, Michael Hamp!
Good to see you again G! Hope all is well
You too!
2 years removed, which one would you recommend now?
Can you show a underwater video of the ultrex? I'm thinking about the ultrex or the motorguide.
You need to do a video on all of them with spot lock on in rough water, I hear the Garmin spot lock will trip out when the prop comes out of the rough water, and you have to reboot the unit for it to work again, very frustrating when fishing a tournament in rough water.
I have a Garmin force. Never had this issue. Out preforms my old minn kota hands down. I've also fished 10 plus hours never killed my batteries yet
I don't know what to make of this test other than the Lowrance Ghost was louder. I could hear a noise way over white noise on that Motorguide esp when turning. If you are a bass fishing person and using spot lock type of feature then test it using spot lock or anchor that is where you're going to hear how quiet each brand is. I would like to see them all tested in the same body of water *clear water... and if you are going to test those 3 brands why, not the Minn Kota Ultrex?
Funny as brushless has been around for 50 years and should be one of the biggest points. How many people have head of Tesla. Do you think they use bushless?
If you run transducer cables down your trolling motor shaft. The trolling motor head spinning around can cause problems .
The main sound I heard from the motor Guide was transducer ticking
RutRow Lowrance.... Hope you saw this video and get on that.
Motorguide for me
Bottom line, are they better than an Ultrex?
I have all hummingbird electronics and a terrova that is older looking for a new trolling motor to get to no be hard to get in and out of the water have been looking at other minn kota motor but have heard that the two that I was looking at have multiple problems may be I what would be opinions not in a hurry all so what shallow water ankers would be suggest thanks Joe just looking and finding out about different options
All spiffy stuff but 80% of fisherman can’t afford to spend $5-8000 extra for the electronics that do everything other than turn the crank on the reel for you.
To be fair, Glen makes it clear that the noise issue was something he found after the fact and just brought to everyone’s attention. If you’re considering one of these motors, noise is only one of many factors you have to take into consideration before you decide which you choose. If you’ve already got a $3500 Lowrance graph on the front of your boat, you aren’t considering an Ultrex even if it’s completely noiseless, unless you want to come out of pocket for a $2500-$3000 trolling motor and another $2000-$3000 for a compatible graph. Also, without additional testing, we have no idea how the noise of those motors compares to the trolling motors we all are currently using. For all we know, everyone could be as loud as the Lowrance. With all of the requests for Glen to test, it probably safe to say we don’t know. If you have the money to buy one of these high end motors, just do it and go catch some fish. I guarantee you still can regardless of which you choose. For myself, I have a 20 foot Phoenix with a 80 pound Fortrexx and will be getting the Lowrance Ghost and and Elite 9 ti 2 soon. I considered the Ultrexx because I have Humminbird electronics, but the upgradeability of the ghost and wireless connectivity of the new Lowrance electronics made the switch easy. I can catch fish now and am sure I’ll be able to catch fish with the Ghost.
Thanks for the support, Marcel Salery, and thanks for watching!
Thank you for all your hard work and for sharing all your knowledge. It’s much appreciated.
Id really like to see a sound comparison underwater comparing these to an ultrex or a fortrex
If the Garmin force head was a little bigger it would get my attention but that lowrance is crazy wicked but that gesture mode with the Garmin is crazy to if lowrance put something like that with the ghost instant win with everybody
Great video very informative
Do the same test with them each set on 3 and not max. Seems like you forgot to mention that for context. If their maxxed out I'm not too concerned w quietness.
Actually, they weren't maxed out. They were roughly 3/4 full. That said, it's all relative. So you could expect similar results at all speeds.
@@bassresource k I was just going off a response you gave someone else earlier, 'at or near their top speed'...
I like the 2 seconds you actually show the motors working. But whonreally wants to see a trolling motor in a trolling motor review.
Wish you would have done Minnkota ultrex sound comparison
It's an older model that wasn't debuted at this year's ICAST. This video compares the newest motors.
@@bassresource buuuut, the ultrex is the benchmark for this type of trolling motor and already established. Comparing it WITH the new tech woulda been useful as these motors were developed to compete with the ultrex.... still the garmin wins imo. lol
Agree Im thinking ultrex purchase and would like to see relative comparison
Wow can’t believe that lowrance is that loud that much money and they can’t quite it down. Definitely considering my options after seeing that. But definitely waiting till the second gen of all these motors comes out.
Glen if you have access to an ultrex could you do the same sound test with your same camera for us? I have an ultrex and I have a ghost on pre order so as loud as the ghost is I really hope the ultrex is louder!
Ty
I really like your videos. Keep them coming. Awesome. I do have a question. A frog rod. What is the best one to get. H,MH, XH. 5"6----------,
I mean it’s preference I like a mh but I don’t throw frogs in thick stuff I mostly throw them in a little bit more open water but if I do throw in the thick stuff I’ll normally go with about a 7’3” heavy that has a little bit more tip and isn’t a broomstick
Great info, thats the stuff that mighy make the most diffetence but most of us probably least consider....
Dang the Ghost is loud. Crazy who would have thought.
My lowrance is on the way to me now. So much for it being a "ghost." Lol.
Checkout the noise from an ultrex
It's an older model that wasn't debuted at this year's ICAST. This video compares the newest motors.
They should rename the Garmin unit "Red October".........
I really wish you had done Minn Kota as well
Just watched this review....... what is the clicking noise on the Motorguide? Can anyone tell me
Great video sir
I'd like to hear an Ultrex. Which one has the shallowest foot control? My boat doesn't have a recessed deck for the trolling motor foot so that helps to keep it lower to the floor and more comfortable
It's an older model that wasn't debuted at this year's ICAST. This video compares the newest motors.
@@bassresource I know but it's also the best competitor to these 3 new motors. It would be helpful in deciding on a new motor.
I couldn't decide what to buy and the market is slim pickings rite now. Im gonna try the motorguide because its a true cable steer. I thought if somthing electronic breaks then I still have steering.
Thanks for sharing this data.. Not that I am in the market for one currently using an ultrex. Maybe this video will spawn dba data with trolling motor. My ultrex is loud above the water and I have hearing loss canyt imagine it below the water, lol.
Dang. The Lowrance Ghost was crazy loud. Deal breaker for sure. Dang it.
I didn't hear the ghost scream when turned
What was the clicking noise the motor guide made
Any response from Lowrance or someone that has a new one get a chance to confirm the motor noise on a production one yet?
I dont hear mine at all especially on top of the water i dont hear mine under either.
Can you confirm that all of the motors were running on “full speed” during the test?
I don't know. What does the description say?
@@bassresource it says "about the same speed". Could be a wide range. Simple question.
Great video!
I recently fished with a guy that has a new Ghost and it was really quiet above the water, and I just watched BLATS video on his Ultrex and it sounds really noisy above the water,
so like the other comments I would love to see an under water test between the Ultrex and the Ghost.
B lat went with motorguide tour pro ... didn't see that commin
What about Minkota Ultrex
No Lowrance for me. I pre-ordered the Garmin. I will respond to this video as unbiased as I can be.
The Motorguide made a clicking sound. That tells me that there's a balance issue with the motor or shaft. The turning of the motor is quieter than the Garmin.
The Garmin is SUPER quiet when running in one direction. But when turning the motor, it makes a squeal which, to my ears, is due to a seal or gasket or o-ring that was not lubricated properly. Again, a quality control issue that needs to be addressed. Another thing the squeaking could be caused by is the design of the shaft-stop. You adjust how much of the shaft goes in the water from underneath, instead of from on top. That's a big deal for me, but the remote and the wireless foot pedal are a fair trade for the extra noise.
Lowrance. I knew I didn't want the Lowrance after seeing their half-assed effort on their version of LiveScope. It was worse than the first version of Pan Optix. So they didn't bother to perfect the technology before they released it to the public. That tells me that they are greedy and don't care about the customer. They just tossed it out there hoping their fanboys will bite.
The Ultrex is just as loud as the Lowrance, or worse.
Glad to help, FIRETIGER RAPALA. Let me know how it works out as I would love to see the results.
Great info. I am looking at the MotorGuide, but it seems it only comes with a 45 inch shaft which is too short for my boat as I need a 52 inch shaft.
The MotorGuide XI has shafts longer than 45”.
How heavy are these?
Motor guide is out for me my repair center quit selling them and working on them they got tired of the inferior parts that continually quit working customers getting mad just tired of dealing with the issues
really need to have the same props on all three and one of the eliminator nuts to make any conclusions on the sound. I know that adding one of the eliminators and a three blade prop made my xi5 quieter.
So...again, this originally was NOT supposed to be some sort of underwater study. We discovered it AFTER it was filmed. That said, they were all stock, which is how most people will run them. Surely making after-market changes might help.
@@bassresource Right, we get that. So re-film it and do a follow up video. With an Ultrex as well.
It’s a shame that three years later none of these brands have come out with versions that have auto deploy/stow and auto trim. Also a shame Minn Kota hasn’t gone to a brushless motor to reduce noise.
You're right. There hasn't been any major changes since they launched.
Not even close. GARMIN by a long shot
if anybody has ever had to use lowrance customer service......well...you know!
Lowrance? Customer service? I emailed them three times for my Elite Ti2's and never got a reply.
thanks
where the speeds set the same?
Again, yes. Please read the comments.
I bought a pro tour 109 biggest mistake I've made.the problems are countless very jerky when you try to use the foot pedal we've had no customer service at all and local service center is 3.5 hours from us and he said and I quote drive it into a dock and collect your insurance money when I call motorguide they say basically sorry but can't help you
Head doesn’t move so the wires don’t tangle
What power was each motor on?
All motors were recorded at about the same speed.
Witch one is best
Which
What power u set all this unit while make underwater comparison
Each were at about 2/3 - 3/4 speed
@@bassresource thank u sir
I have an I-pilot motor guide. In fact I am on my 3rd one in 6 years with than 40 hours of uses total on all 3. I am changing over to Minn Kota. At least my Lowrance will show me the best spot to drop this motor guide junk
You’ll be sorry if you switch to minn Kota they are junk these days. Look at all the negative reviews on the pos Ulterra!
First off, Lowrance you blew it with that noise issue. But, most important, I would NEVER buy first generation from any of these manufacturers. Historically, anyone (Pros) will be test dummies and the bugs and issues will not be worth it. Wait a year or two...
Absolutely. I picked up an Xi5 to hold me over until I'm satisfied that the Garmin has gone through adequate trial and error.
Where is the Minn Kota?
This video is a comparison of the latest motors. Minn Kota did not introduce a new motor at the time this video was made.
Thanks. I still say; "Buyer Beware". These units are ONLY are compatible with certain electronics!! You may have to upgrade your fish-finders! $$$$$$
More research please.
For now, I'll stay with Minn-Kota. They are 'trying' to work with all fish finder mfgs.
Ghost
Typical lowrance product. Vastly subpar compared to everything else. Their customer service sucks too.
More and more things to fail and repair . It’s amazing how much money there is in a pass time . Pro fishing ,to me, is a bane to fishermen .
The next total let down from Lowrance! What a clowns! So it's not the best but the worst motor of the new generation. I bet that even my current 2017 Minn Kota Terrova is quieter then this piece of crap!
Super annoying how he just talks about disabled people and this whole review seems to revolve around disabled people. These engines are made for avid and able fishermen to catch more fish, not disabled people fishing.
you're an idiot dude
Wow what an idiot. As one that is getting older I like anything that makes fishing easier. I am sure he has some ax to grind about his favorite brand. I am for any innovation because it pushes all brands to do better.
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it