Don Wagner: Christian Zionism and growing backlash inside American churches.

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  • Опубліковано 4 бер 2022
  • 2022 Transcending the Israel lobby at Home & Abroad conference
    March 4 at the National Press Club.
    Rev. Dr. Don Wagner recently retired as national program director of Friends of Sabeel-North America. Prior to that he was a professor of Middle East studies at North Park University, where he was also the director of its Center for Middle Eastern Studies. During the 1980s he was the national director of the Palestine Human Rights Campaign. An ordained Presbyterian minister, Rev. Wagner has served churches in New Jersey and Evanston, IL. He is the author or co-author of five books dealing with Palestinian human rights, Christian Zionism, a theological critique of Zionism and a history of Christianity in Palestine-Israel. These include Anxious for Armageddon: A Call to Partnership for Middle Eastern and Western Christians (1995) , Zionism and the Quest for Justice in the Holy Land (2014) and Dying in the Land of Promise: Palestine and Palestinian Christianity from Pentecost to 2000 (2003).
    The history and theology of Christian Zionism is a central topic of the book he is currently writing.
    Since 2015 the annual IsraelLobbyCon conference series at the National Press Club explores the latest research, innovations and tactics for countering the Israel lobby’s damaging policies in the U.S. and around the globe. See www.IsraelLobbyCon.org for more information.

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  • @edreison
    @edreison Рік тому +20

    This is the critical information all Americans and world need to know and understand to stop the war in Ukraine and end the apartheid in Palestine.

    • @lorascelsi8102
      @lorascelsi8102 5 місяців тому +3

      Well said

    • @truthprevails5173
      @truthprevails5173 4 місяці тому

      Why should anyone go after dispensationalism, when we got clear Bible verses?
      Just read Deuteronomy 28 and 30 chapters. Also, Ezekiel 36 and 37 chapters. These chapters clearly explain the restoration of Jews after their punishment of world wide exile.
      In the N.T, Jesus himself spoke about the rule of Gentile nations of Jerusalem and it will come to an end. Means, Jerusalem has to come back to Jewish rule, once Gentile rule is over. That happened in 1967 war.
      Romans 9 to 11 chapters clearly mentions restoration of Israel once the number of Gentile elects are completed. Once that happens Jesus comes back and thereafter no more proclamation of Gospel. Instead the whole world will accept Jewish form of worship.
      See Ezekiel 40 to 47 chapters and Zechariah 14.
      We see the end times Jerusalem Temple in Ezekiel 37:21-28, Ezekiel chapters 40 to 44,
      2 Thess chapter 2:4, Revelation 11:1-2.
      Many Christians falsely think that no more physical Temple will be built, instead each N.T believer is God's Temple. Certainly each believer is the Temple of God. That is right. But it doesn't end there.
      My earnest appeal to Christians is please leave aside false teachers. Go after clear Bible verses. That is enough.
      It is God Almighty who scattered Jews all over the world. It is same God Almighty who foretold about their restoration. Which is happening right before our eyes!
      So whom should we support? Israel or Palestine?
      My answer is none of them. We Christians must stand with God Almighty and His decision. Nothing more, nothing less!

  • @anlaugschreinerberge4588
    @anlaugschreinerberge4588 7 місяців тому +12

    Thank you! You are a true hero! I treasure this video. Real content, with truth and history, are a gem rare to come by these days! Love from Norway.

  • @4sammyboy
    @4sammyboy Рік тому +19

    Wow! You are heroic,to say the truth against the evil imposters,those that stole the land and murder to take more.

  • @lorascelsi8102
    @lorascelsi8102 5 місяців тому +7

    Justice for Gaza and Maui

  • @RFKPeaceNIK19
    @RFKPeaceNIK19 2 роки тому +14

    It is in Fact, ZIo-Fascism.

  • @edreison
    @edreison Рік тому +6

    Powerful and TRUE.
    31:31
    a heresy takes a portion of the truth turns it upside down and empties it and
    31:39
    then fills it with racist anti-biblical content
    31:45
    so this is what christian zionism and zionism are they are ideologies
    31:51
    that are idolatrous of the state of israel absolutely idolatrous and that is the
    31:57
    first commandment they also are racist
    32:03
    and we need to call them to account of the lack of humanity and accountability

  • @StephenwBennett
    @StephenwBennett 2 роки тому +2

    Thank you

  • @MyMacsam
    @MyMacsam 2 роки тому +25

    Thank you, Rev Don Wagner, for your speech. There is a lot in it that is worthy of comment but I want to address one important point: the relationship between Christianity and Judaism. You say that in our struggle we have a problem because we are always afraid to criticize zionism. In reality the problem is we are afraid to criticize Judaism. You mention Judeo-Christianity but this is an oxymoron. True Christian theology is this: By His sacrifice on the Cross Jesus fulfilled and completed the old covenant such that Judaism became irrelevant and meaningless. Especially after the AD 70 destruction of Jerusalem, as prophesied by Jesus, there is no more temple, no more animal sacrifices, no more genealogical priestly records, no more dietary laws, and no more “chosenness.” In short, there is no more Jewish religion. Salvation is now open to everybody upon faith in Jesus as the incarnate Christ and the Jews, like everybody else, have to accept Him as the Messiah and become Christian. To believe anything else would be a heresy. You said that evangelical zionism (the so-called “Christian zionism”) should be regarded as a heresy. Indeed. It is similar to the heresy confronted by the Disciples in the first century because it is a heresy of judaizing Christianity. More than rejecting a Jewish state, in Palestine or anywhere, Christians must reject any attempt to consider Judaism as a viable “religion.” Most people are afraid to even consider this idea because of the zionist political intimidation of the “anti-Semitic” accusation. But it is precisely this standpoint that has to be taken to confront both the zionist settler-colony itself and the heretical “evangelical zionists.”

    • @tumslucks9781
      @tumslucks9781 8 місяців тому +5

      Great summary.
      Thankyou.
      ✝️

    • @truthprevails5173
      @truthprevails5173 4 місяці тому

      Why should anyone go after dispensationalism, when we got clear Bible verses?
      Just read Deuteronomy 28 and 30 chapters. Also, Ezekiel 36 and 37 chapters. These chapters clearly explain the restoration of Jews after their punishment of world wide exile.
      In the N.T, Jesus himself spoke about the rule of Gentile nations of Jerusalem and it will come to an end. Means, Jerusalem has to come back to Jewish rule, once Gentile rule is over. That happened in 1967 war.
      Romans 9 to 11 chapters clearly mentions restoration of Israel once the number of Gentile elects are completed. Once that happens Jesus comes back and thereafter no more proclamation of Gospel. Instead the whole world will accept Jewish form of worship.
      See Ezekiel 40 to 47 chapters and Zechariah 14.
      We see the end times Jerusalem Temple in Ezekiel 37:21-28, Ezekiel chapters 40 to 44,
      2 Thess chapter 2:4, Revelation 11:1-2.
      Many Christians falsely think that no more physical Temple will be built, instead each N.T believer is God's Temple. Certainly each believer is the Temple of God. That is right. But it doesn't end there.
      My earnest appeal to Christians is please leave aside false teachers. Go after clear Bible verses. That is enough.
      It is God Almighty who scattered Jews all over the world. It is same God Almighty who foretold about their restoration. Which is happening right before our eyes!
      So whom should we support? Israel or Palestine?
      My answer is none of them. We Christians must stand with God Almighty and His decision. Nothing more, nothing less!

    • @truthprevails5173
      @truthprevails5173 4 місяці тому

      Islam stands directly against God of Abraham!

  • @pcjenkin
    @pcjenkin 2 роки тому +5

    Excellent video.

  • @roberttravers5286
    @roberttravers5286 7 місяців тому +4

    Is he saying Trump is a Zionist?

    • @lorascelsi8102
      @lorascelsi8102 5 місяців тому +2

      DC is run by AIPAC and Christian Fundamentalist Zionist.

    • @sinterior2626
      @sinterior2626 4 місяці тому +1

      The best they got. Peace

  • @larrybedouin2921
    @larrybedouin2921 6 місяців тому +3

    Who are the Israel of God?
    There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus.
    And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise. {Galatians 3:28-29}
    Wherefore remember, that ye being IN TIME PAST Gentiles in the flesh, who are called Uncircumcision by that which is called the Circumcision in the flesh made by hands;
    That at that time ye were without Christ, being aliens from the COMMONWEALTH of ISRAEL, and strangers from the covenants of promise, having no hope, and without God in the world:
    BUT now in Christ Jesus ye who sometimes were far off are made nigh *by the blood of Christ*
    For he is our peace, who hath made both [Jew and Gentile] one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;
    Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments [not the ten commandments] contained in ordinances; for to make in himself *of twain* ONE NEW MAN, so making peace;
    And that he might reconcile BOTH unto God in ONE BODY by the cross, *having slain the enmity thereby*
    And came and preached peace to you which were afar off, and to them that were nigh.
    For through him we both have access by one Spirit unto the Father.
    Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but *fellowcitizens* with the saints, and of the household of God;
    [The commnwealth of Israel ... Jeshurun]
    {Ephesians 2:11-19}
    Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons:
    But *in every nation* he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.
    {Acts 10:34-35}
    Again...
    But glory, honour, and peace, to every man that worketh good, to the Jew first, and also to the Gentile:
    For there is no respect of persons with God.
    {Romans 2:10-11}
    Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For *they are not all Israel* which are of Israel:
    *Neither because they are the seed of Abraham* are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called.
    That is, They which are the children of the flesh, these are not the children of God: but *the children of the promise* are counted for the seed.
    {Romans 9:6-8}
    Now we, [Galatians] brethren, as Isaac was, are the children of promise.
    But as then he that was born after the flesh persecuted him that was born after the Spirit, even so it is now.
    {Galatians 4:28-29}
    For in Christ Jesus neither circumcision availeth any thing, nor uncircumcision, but a new creature.
    And as many as walk according to this rule, peace be on them, and mercy, and
    upon *the Israel of God*
    {Galatians 6:15-16}
    And they [the Jew] also, *if they abide not still in unbelief* shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in *again*
    {Romans 11:23}
    For ye are all the children of God *by faith in Christ Jesus*
    For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ.
    {Galatians 3:26-27}

  • @quarefremeruntgentes
    @quarefremeruntgentes 4 місяці тому

    RE: The "history of violence in Palestine"
    Europe literally holds the record for the most military battles, and the highest frequency of warfare, of any region of the world

  • @jerrynonofbss2588
    @jerrynonofbss2588 4 місяці тому +2

    I think there is a historical error in this presentation. From 1849 to 1900 all the territory of Belarus and Ukraine was the Russian empire. It was Lenin who created the republic of Ukraine.

  • @wayne2630
    @wayne2630 2 роки тому

    ✨ 𝓹𝓻𝓸𝓶𝓸𝓼𝓶

  • @irisbristow2977
    @irisbristow2977 6 місяців тому

    Oh no not a professor………blah blah blah