Hey! I don't advise using the Air Pros on fabric pads as the UHWMPE material is very high friction. So they'll feel sticky for lack of a better word. I don't know if it'd damage a surface over time, I'd depend on the pad. But regardless stick to the non-air pro skates for fabric pad usage.
So if I want optimal control on glass I should opt for Obsidian Air Pro Donuts instead of the simple dot version since there's more contact point right (if I understood correctly)? Tysm in advance and excellent video was a pleasure to watch.
Hey! The donuts will be more controlled due to their larger surface area. Id say one donut skates is equal to like 2.5 dots but it'll vary slightly. Just keep in mind the sizing limitations on the donuts, on some mice you can fit more dots than donuts. Hope that helps!
Another great and comprehensive review as always. I'd love to get your opinion on the best skate for my ATK Sky XSOFT pad. I've tested Jade Dots and Obsidian Air Dots on my pad and noticed my aiming was much more inconsistent with Jades over Obsidian Air and the lack of control made me lose most of close range fights in COD and other FPS shooters. I'm currently using an ATK X1 Ultra (similar shape to Razer Viper V3 Pro), and I'm happy with the level of control and glide I get with Obsidian Air Dots, but the issue is the mouse can sink into the mousepad and mess up my tracking (this was way worse on Jade Dots). What skate do you recommend to get? Do you think the Obsidian Air Donuts are an improvement over what I have? I'm waiting for some inputs before I make a decision and get some other sets, but I don't think I can fit more than 4 donut skate on my mouse🤔, but I'm open to ideas 😄.
Obsidian Air Donuts will be the way to go! You also don't need to use as many donuts as you do dots often (1 donut = ~2-3 dots). The only thing you need to check for is making sure the X1 Ultra has skate cutouts big enough for the donuts. Hope that helps!
@@mel0nFPS Thanks for the advice. I think the skate cutouts on X1 Ultra are big enough for donuts. So I've gone ahead and bought a set of Obsidian Air Donuts and will report back the results in a week or two. When can we expect a review on their new upcoming mousepad (the yellow color) that will be released next week?
@@ArmanM-ly7xn No ETA on that, not even sure if I'm getting a unit. I have a pretty big backlog right now so even if I get one it'll be a while before I get to it sadly.
Fantastic video, quick question however; as you mentioned with the sizing of the skates, I've been using the Jade Donut skates on my X2H since the beginning of the year and they seemed to fit and are still serving me well. If I'm looking into either the Obsidian Air Pro Donuts or Obsidian Air Pro dots for the Tekkusai The Beast glass pad coming out, which would you recommend if I still plan to use the X2H?
For the BEAST I'd use the Obsidian Pro Air Donuts or Dots as the pad is borderline uncontrollably fast, could use the Obsidian air skates too but if you want a slightly faster experience, but it'll be up to personal preference.
I am using the center piece of the donut skate as mini dots and it seems to be working fine. What is the downside to doing so? I know you mentioned it would catch on the mousepad, but this would not be an issue on a glasspad right?
Hey mel0n, I'm thinking of picking up an AC Pro Mid Neon to replace my AC2 Sakura and I'm using stock EGG OP1 8k skates should I go for Obsidian Air dots or donuts? I only play Valorant on 40cm/360. I want something slightly faster than my current setup without giving up too much control.
Donuts would be the best fit as they'll be slightly faster than the OP1's stocks but they'll give you a decent amount of control, I'd go for the Obsidian versions, but since you're using a soft-pad you can get the cheaper red ones instead of the Air versions!
I don’t know why but I always expect to hear UHMWPE pronounced as uhm-wipe 😂😂😂 awesome video as always. I might end up getting a set of uhmwipe air pros myself lol
I've only used dots so far (Obsidian and corepad) but I'm curious if I should try donuts instead as I'm looking at the air/air pro. I play on a razer atlas, so only glass, no cloth. I feel like the donuts would catch any dust that's on the pad easier as they technically have more surface for it to get stuck on, what's your experience with that?
I wouldn't say the donuts attract more dust and dirt, but due to their higher surface area I guess you'd hit specs more frequently. Personally speaking I haven't run into any issues with the donuts skates. A good way to prevent anything from happening though is to wipe the pad and the bottom of the mouse off with a microfiber cloth before use, that really helps to keep dust and pet hair issue to a minimum.
You can if you want or you can leave it in, makes no difference in my experience. I only really remove the central dot if I'm installing the donut over a screw or something.
With ur experiences which skates is will be perfect with gsr se. The mousepad is not arrived to me yet but i want a control so should i prefer obsidian air pro or corepad pro?
Personally speaking I'd go for faster skates like the Jade Air dots on more controlled pads like the GSR-SE. but you can totally use Obsidians for a more controlled experience if you'd like, it'll really depend on personal preference.
@@mel0nFPS any difference between the ruin and the infinite speed? I couldn’t quite tell from the website, it seemed like maybe they’re the same pad with a diff graphic. The only difference I see is that infinite speed allows you to choose mid or soft, so I’m guessing the ruin would be the same as the soft surface?
I have a hien mid using a fingertip htr pro 8k very light mouse at 26 grams and i want good control yet not sluggish speed whats dot skates should i get for it im conflicted?
Obsidian or Obsidian Airs would preform fine, if you want more control you can get donuts but I think they'll be too controlled for your use-case, so I'd stick with the dot versions.
i currently use a stock skates vxe r1 pro with an artisan zero soft, which skates out of the xraypad line would you recommend the most and in which shape? im open to all of them just curious how much they each would change the feel compared to stock and if the jades would be too uncontrollable
which should i go for with a finalmouse ulx m and artisen hien soft xxl, i want speed but at the same time controlled feeling for flicks and what not like no friction but controlled feeling as well
I'd go for either the Obsidan or Jade Donuts, don't nee to get the air versions. The only issue you may have is you'll need to make sure the donuts will fit on the ULX's skate cutouts.
Obsidian Air / Pro Air Series skates, they're the skates I use the most when I'm using glasspads: In order of speed: Obsidian Air Dots > Obsidian Pro Air Dots > Obsidian Air Donuts > Obsidian Air Pro Donuts
@@mel0nFPS how would u rate ghostglide cyclones, ice v2, tj plastix, normal obsidians and obsidian pro airs? I'm using a skypad 3 and I love the feel of new ptfe skates but the butteriness wears out so fast I'm looking for some new skates specifically made for glass lol
@@0xEden.For the 3.0 I would say get the Xacts/Plastix but they're VERY loud, they preform great, but they're too loud for me to recommend. Best to stick to the Obsidan Air or Pro Airs as they'll have the SMPF layering so they'll be much quieter. Based off what you're looking for I'd say go for the Obsidian Airs as they'l be controlled but not too muddy like the Pro Airs. Hope that helps!
@@mel0nFPS Thanks! I have open backed headphones but I don't think I'd mind the sound too much... I might get both the obsidian airs and the plastix and compare.
Very few people can talk about mouse feet for almost 20mins, and not end up waffeling. The info in this vid was top tier and we really appreciate it.
These Skates are amazin, and also the review! Complete, precise and you just talked about every aspect, love your reviews man :)
Ordered the Obsidian Air Donuts for use on my Artisan Raiden, happy to see a review for them is now on UA-cam 👍
that really saved me some money! i guess i stick with the regular obsidians. great review as always!
Happy to help!
Bought obsidian air pro donuts a while ago for cloth pad usage and completely agree with you, it's unusable on cloth pads... Way too sticky
The donuts are 10x worse on cloth pads, amazing for hard pads though!
Loving the Obsidian Airs, GOATED Skates.
I ordered the Obsidian Air Dot skates after watching your review on them and I've been loving them on my OP1 8K and Beast X mini!
Glad you're enjoying them!
Definitely one of my next mouse accessory purchases, whenever they become available where i live. Good review as always mel0n🤙
Thank you!
Hey man great video as always
Do the obsidian air pro donuts wear out cloth pads faster than regular ptfe skates?
Hey! I don't advise using the Air Pros on fabric pads as the UHWMPE material is very high friction. So they'll feel sticky for lack of a better word. I don't know if it'd damage a surface over time, I'd depend on the pad. But regardless stick to the non-air pro skates for fabric pad usage.
@@mel0nFPS I was wondering about that too..., now i know
Thank you for your answer!
ngl I might get the Air Pro Donuts when it's available at my local peripheral store, tyty for the review Mel0n!!
So if I want optimal control on glass I should opt for Obsidian Air Pro Donuts instead of the simple dot version since there's more contact point right (if I understood correctly)?
Tysm in advance and excellent video was a pleasure to watch.
Hey! The donuts will be more controlled due to their larger surface area. Id say one donut skates is equal to like 2.5 dots but it'll vary slightly.
Just keep in mind the sizing limitations on the donuts, on some mice you can fit more dots than donuts. Hope that helps!
Another great and comprehensive review as always. I'd love to get your opinion on the best skate for my ATK Sky XSOFT pad. I've tested Jade Dots and Obsidian Air Dots on my pad and noticed my aiming was much more inconsistent with Jades over Obsidian Air and the lack of control made me lose most of close range fights in COD and other FPS shooters. I'm currently using an ATK X1 Ultra (similar shape to Razer Viper V3 Pro), and I'm happy with the level of control and glide I get with Obsidian Air Dots, but the issue is the mouse can sink into the mousepad and mess up my tracking (this was way worse on Jade Dots). What skate do you recommend to get? Do you think the Obsidian Air Donuts are an improvement over what I have? I'm waiting for some inputs before I make a decision and get some other sets, but I don't think I can fit more than 4 donut skate on my mouse🤔, but I'm open to ideas 😄.
Obsidian Air Donuts will be the way to go! You also don't need to use as many donuts as you do dots often (1 donut = ~2-3 dots). The only thing you need to check for is making sure the X1 Ultra has skate cutouts big enough for the donuts.
Hope that helps!
@@mel0nFPS Thanks for the advice. I think the skate cutouts on X1 Ultra are big enough for donuts. So I've gone ahead and bought a set of Obsidian Air Donuts and will report back the results in a week or two. When can we expect a review on their new upcoming mousepad (the yellow color) that will be released next week?
@@ArmanM-ly7xn No ETA on that, not even sure if I'm getting a unit. I have a pretty big backlog right now so even if I get one it'll be a while before I get to it sadly.
Fantastic video, quick question however; as you mentioned with the sizing of the skates, I've been using the Jade Donut skates on my X2H since the beginning of the year and they seemed to fit and are still serving me well. If I'm looking into either the Obsidian Air Pro Donuts or Obsidian Air Pro dots for the Tekkusai The Beast glass pad coming out, which would you recommend if I still plan to use the X2H?
For the BEAST I'd use the Obsidian Pro Air Donuts or Dots as the pad is borderline uncontrollably fast, could use the Obsidian air skates too but if you want a slightly faster experience, but it'll be up to personal preference.
really like your content very interessting and so much nice information! ❤
Glad you enjoyed it!
I am using the center piece of the donut skate as mini dots and it seems to be working fine. What is the downside to doing so? I know you mentioned it would catch on the mousepad, but this would not be an issue on a glasspad right?
They'll be totally fine on glass!
Amazing content man👍🏼
Hey mel0n, I'm thinking of picking up an AC Pro Mid Neon to replace my AC2 Sakura and I'm using stock EGG OP1 8k skates should I go for Obsidian Air dots or donuts? I only play Valorant on 40cm/360. I want something slightly faster than my current setup without giving up too much control.
Donuts would be the best fit as they'll be slightly faster than the OP1's stocks but they'll give you a decent amount of control, I'd go for the Obsidian versions, but since you're using a soft-pad you can get the cheaper red ones instead of the Air versions!
I don’t know why but I always expect to hear UHMWPE pronounced as uhm-wipe 😂😂😂 awesome video as always. I might end up getting a set of uhmwipe air pros myself lol
I've only used dots so far (Obsidian and corepad) but I'm curious if I should try donuts instead as I'm looking at the air/air pro. I play on a razer atlas, so only glass, no cloth. I feel like the donuts would catch any dust that's on the pad easier as they technically have more surface for it to get stuck on, what's your experience with that?
I wouldn't say the donuts attract more dust and dirt, but due to their higher surface area I guess you'd hit specs more frequently. Personally speaking I haven't run into any issues with the donuts skates. A good way to prevent anything from happening though is to wipe the pad and the bottom of the mouse off with a microfiber cloth before use, that really helps to keep dust and pet hair issue to a minimum.
great as usual 👍
Are you supposed to take the middle dot off after putting on the skates? sorry if you answered it in the video already.
You can if you want or you can leave it in, makes no difference in my experience. I only really remove the central dot if I'm installing the donut over a screw or something.
With ur experiences which skates is will be perfect with gsr se. The mousepad is not arrived to me yet but i want a control so should i prefer obsidian air pro or corepad pro?
Personally speaking I'd go for faster skates like the Jade Air dots on more controlled pads like the GSR-SE. but you can totally use Obsidians for a more controlled experience if you'd like, it'll really depend on personal preference.
What is the fastest speed cloth pad? I just got into dot skates and Im running into issues with humidity and muddy spots on my artisan raiden
Fastest pad's I've personally tested are the LGG Neptune and the InfinityMice RUIN/Infinite Speed V2.
@@mel0nFPS any difference between the ruin and the infinite speed? I couldn’t quite tell from the website, it seemed like maybe they’re the same pad with a diff graphic. The only difference I see is that infinite speed allows you to choose mid or soft, so I’m guessing the ruin would be the same as the soft surface?
@@anthonyfresco3145 Hey! the pad's are the same, the only different is that the RUIN is ever so slightly faster due to the surface printing.
I have a hien mid using a fingertip htr pro 8k very light mouse at 26 grams and i want good control yet not sluggish speed whats dot skates should i get for it im conflicted?
Obsidian or Obsidian Airs would preform fine, if you want more control you can get donuts but I think they'll be too controlled for your use-case, so I'd stick with the dot versions.
I have the AC Pro Mid to rotate with the SP004 would the air pros be good as well for them or i should go for the normal airs
The Pro's aren't great for soft-pads so I'd stick with the normal Obsidian Airs as they'll be perfect for both pad types.
i currently use a stock skates vxe r1 pro with an artisan zero soft, which skates out of the xraypad line would you recommend the most and in which shape? im open to all of them just curious how much they each would change the feel compared to stock and if the jades would be too uncontrollable
For a X-soft zero I'd go Obsidian Donuts, you can try the Jade Air Donuts but they might be too fast on a zero.
Hey Mel0n! Do you have a preference for the Cerapad Kin or Kazemi? Just curious ^^
Both are great pads! I tend to lean more towards the KIN as I prefer a more controlled pad, but the KAZEMI is still an amazing pad.
I see! Thank you for replying, I was just curious as I own a Cerapad KIN (made a review on my channel actually) but not a Kazemi.
I use the dot inside the dount around the sensor
That's a good use for them!
You love donuts so much, are you sure your not a cop? ;)
which should i go for with a finalmouse ulx m and artisen hien soft xxl, i want speed but at the same time controlled feeling for flicks and what not like no friction but controlled feeling as well
& what do think of jade donuts on artisan hien
I'd go for either the Obsidan or Jade Donuts, don't nee to get the air versions. The only issue you may have is you'll need to make sure the donuts will fit on the ULX's skate cutouts.
Thoughts on the Wraith Cosmic V2 Evil Edition, any chance you review it?
Haven't tried any of Wraith's products unfortunately. Probably won't be reviewing it unless I happen upon a review unit.
So for you what’s the best skate for the wallhack sp004 ? I tried so much skates but its going to be sticky sometimes, thank you 🙂
Obsidian Air / Pro Air Series skates, they're the skates I use the most when I'm using glasspads:
In order of speed: Obsidian Air Dots > Obsidian Pro Air Dots > Obsidian Air Donuts > Obsidian Air Pro Donuts
@@mel0nFPS how would u rate ghostglide cyclones, ice v2, tj plastix, normal obsidians and obsidian pro airs? I'm using a skypad 3 and I love the feel of new ptfe skates but the butteriness wears out so fast I'm looking for some new skates specifically made for glass lol
@@0xEden.For the 3.0 I would say get the Xacts/Plastix but they're VERY loud, they preform great, but they're too loud for me to recommend. Best to stick to the Obsidan Air or Pro Airs as they'll have the SMPF layering so they'll be much quieter. Based off what you're looking for I'd say go for the Obsidian Airs as they'l be controlled but not too muddy like the Pro Airs.
Hope that helps!
@@mel0nFPS Thanks! I have open backed headphones but I don't think I'd mind the sound too much... I might get both the obsidian airs and the plastix and compare.