Thanks for the video man, I'm an OKC degenerate so I love listening to everyone talk about them and give their opinions. Something to follow for me is Ajay Mitchell, Dillon Jones, and Topic from the draft. The first two I named off have been playing legitimately great in summer league and honestly seem to be ready to contribute to the team already. This is important for a top team to rotate in as they lose players cause they can't afford them. Presti is a draft savant, he knows how to get the best value at the pick he has. Didn't even mention how Topic will make an impact either. It's a fun time to be a thunder fan!
Same here man, even Ousmane Dieng shined in Summer League and I think this is a make or break year for him if he wants to be in our rotation but he has improved a lot through his time in the G League. Our team is so deep at every position it is insane. No matter who you start the second rotation is packed with defense and shooters. I think we are destined for a ring if we can stay healthy.
@@xgraype3267yes man! I think they plan to let him play a lot more minutes the first couple months and see how he does. This year will definitely decide his future with OKC and I hope he does great. Having a real 4 man would be beautiful for us
I don't see any difference in his offensive game still he's only good at the floater and playmaking the defense still isn't there neither is the shooting
@@jaebuudhatv8514 does he have liabilities? Yes. So does curuso. All im saying is its not a complete lose for Chicago. You are rebuilding and my guess is that by the time you get a good team again, Giddey will have improved.
@@awethinic8379 thats not to say giddey won't be great he averaged 17/8/7 his sophomore year and he's 6'8 with a handle I always said he low-key a Luka light but I think his defense will always be below average he doesn't have quick footwork to keep up with athletic wings and guards and I'm telling u now his go to is that floater he uses it almost every possession it's not that efficient
@@awethinic8379 Not a total loss. Just a questionable move. Alex was being traded no matter what. Its what he was traded for that is in question. Which is nothing to do with Josh, exactly. But the Bulls, their needs, and the business of basketball. Alex is not a Josh replacement, Josh not an Alex. But Okc needed an Alex. He'd most likely be there even if Josh stayed. But did the Bulls NEED a Josh? What else might they have gotten considering what they already had and future intentions? That is really the only thing in question.
People are vastly underestimating this Thunder offseason, we upgraded our weakest link in Giddey to another high % 3p shooting all defensive player (Caruso) and signed iHart to improve our biggest playoff weakness (non Chet minutes)
love all the moves, getting rid of Giddey's redundant skillset and obtaining a complimentary defensive role player like Caruso. Then freeing Chet up by getting Hartenstein to do the dirty work in the paint.
You guys got pueces that fit good, but got some of the oowest talent stat-wise thst Presti could find. Mikal Bridges is everything Caruso is noe, but younger, bigger, more athletic, healthier, and better overall. He should've coughed up a few draft picks to get a guy who could clearly put them over the top. And they still may not have the talent to rest Chet which will come in handy in the coming years.
I completely agree with your take. I see Isaiah Joe starting this year with Caruso coming off the bench to save his legs for the playoffs. Hartenstein will start or come off the bench as the matchups dictate.
Everyone has their opinion, but it is clear that the bulls got the better player, Giddy, who is 9 years younger, but the Thunder got a player, Caruso, that fits in their rotation better. Also, starting both Hartenstein and Holmgren would be counter to their style of play. They got a good backup center that can occasionally play alongside Holmgren.
Hartenstein can still start OKC just need to put him at the PF spot because they need to add another faciliting connector but also I expect Coach Daignault to play Hartenstein over 30 minutes a game since Isaiah can still fit with the Thunder's 5 out system because when Hartenstein came into the league he was known as a stretch big he just couldnt show it on the other teams especially new york where thibs didn't require him to do so. But in the Clippers they explored his shooting potential I bet OKC is banking on developing him futher or unlock his ceiling as a big man since Isaiah just turned 26 this year by the end of his contract he is just around 28-29 plus he played before with SGA & Lu Dort in the Nike Hoop Summit. A lineup of SGA Dort JDub iHart Chet Is nasty because both JDub and Dort can play their natural roles now by adding Isaiah into the starting frontcourt.
Not enough shooters/ball handlers there to fit OKC's style of play. Wallace, or possibly Caruso would fit better than Hartenstein. Of course that all depends on who they are playing. In some cases Hartenstein may be the better choice.
Second comment. Ihart said in his first interview, his roll will expand with the thunder. Expect more 3’s. In His 3rd year his value will be outrageous.
After everything else, the Thunder will have 3 to 4 first round picks in the 2025 draft, which will be very loaded. This includes the very talented Nikola Topic and a chance to get a very high 2025 1st-round pick with the pick swap with the Clippers. The beat goes on...
Giddy"s a good player but he doesn't fit like Caruso can with us. For those who don't believe just watch his highlights. The speed, awareness, tenacity, is much greater than what Giddy can give us. Even being 8 yrs older!!!
What I am most afraid of is that Ihart or Caruso aren’t starters. We need to find a 2 guard, Isiah Joe isn’t a starter, Wallace isn’t ready and Wiggins isn’t a starter. As a die hard OKC fan since 2008, I think we need a starter cause we got everything else. Rotational 5 can affect in the playoffs, we saw how we struggle to scored in the playoffs 😅
@@TheJudgementofDog No it isn't... Dort was always gonna start. its Shai/Dort/J Dub/Chet/? I hart doesn't fit the 5 out offense i don't think he will start.
I hated losing hartenstien as a knicks fan, but i dont think he will be as effective with OKC. They are a different type of team. He will be important and i honestly want a Knicks/Thunder final next season. That would be a battle.
Thanks for the video man, I'm an OKC degenerate so I love listening to everyone talk about them and give their opinions. Something to follow for me is Ajay Mitchell, Dillon Jones, and Topic from the draft. The first two I named off have been playing legitimately great in summer league and honestly seem to be ready to contribute to the team already. This is important for a top team to rotate in as they lose players cause they can't afford them. Presti is a draft savant, he knows how to get the best value at the pick he has. Didn't even mention how Topic will make an impact either. It's a fun time to be a thunder fan!
Same here man, even Ousmane Dieng shined in Summer League and I think this is a make or break year for him if he wants to be in our rotation but he has improved a lot through his time in the G League. Our team is so deep at every position it is insane. No matter who you start the second rotation is packed with defense and shooters. I think we are destined for a ring if we can stay healthy.
@@xgraype3267yes man! I think they plan to let him play a lot more minutes the first couple months and see how he does. This year will definitely decide his future with OKC and I hope he does great. Having a real 4 man would be beautiful for us
Look at what Giddey is doing for team Australia. He just can’t help us. Its not a total lose for Chicago.
I don't see any difference in his offensive game still he's only good at the floater and playmaking the defense still isn't there neither is the shooting
@@jaebuudhatv8514 does he have liabilities? Yes. So does curuso. All im saying is its not a complete lose for Chicago. You are rebuilding and my guess is that by the time you get a good team again, Giddey will have improved.
@@awethinic8379 thats not to say giddey won't be great he averaged 17/8/7 his sophomore year and he's 6'8 with a handle I always said he low-key a Luka light but I think his defense will always be below average he doesn't have quick footwork to keep up with athletic wings and guards and I'm telling u now his go to is that floater he uses it almost every possession it's not that efficient
@@awethinic8379 Not a total loss. Just a questionable move. Alex was being traded no matter what. Its what he was traded for that is in question. Which is nothing to do with Josh, exactly. But the Bulls, their needs, and the business of basketball. Alex is not a Josh replacement, Josh not an Alex. But Okc needed an Alex. He'd most likely be there even if Josh stayed. But did the Bulls NEED a Josh? What else might they have gotten considering what they already had and future intentions? That is really the only thing in question.
People are vastly underestimating this Thunder offseason, we upgraded our weakest link in Giddey to another high % 3p shooting all defensive player (Caruso) and signed iHart to improve our biggest playoff weakness (non Chet minutes)
without giving up A SINGLE pick in the process…how?
love all the moves, getting rid of Giddey's redundant skillset and obtaining a complimentary defensive role player like Caruso. Then freeing Chet up by getting Hartenstein to do the dirty work in the paint.
You guys got pueces that fit good, but got some of the oowest talent stat-wise thst Presti could find. Mikal Bridges is everything Caruso is noe, but younger, bigger, more athletic, healthier, and better overall. He should've coughed up a few draft picks to get a guy who could clearly put them over the top. And they still may not have the talent to rest Chet which will come in handy in the coming years.
I completely agree with your take. I see Isaiah Joe starting this year with Caruso coming off the bench to save his legs for the playoffs. Hartenstein will start or come off the bench as the matchups dictate.
Everyone has their opinion, but it is clear that the bulls got the better player, Giddy, who is 9 years younger, but the Thunder got a player, Caruso, that fits in their rotation better. Also, starting both Hartenstein and Holmgren would be counter to their style of play. They got a good backup center that can occasionally play alongside Holmgren.
Hartenstein can still start OKC just need to put him at the PF spot because they need to add another faciliting connector but also I expect Coach Daignault to play Hartenstein over 30 minutes a game since Isaiah can still fit with the Thunder's 5 out system because when Hartenstein came into the league he was known as a stretch big he just couldnt show it on the other teams especially new york where thibs didn't require him to do so.
But in the Clippers they explored his shooting potential I bet OKC is banking on developing him futher or unlock his ceiling as a big man since Isaiah just turned 26 this year by the end of his contract he is just around 28-29 plus he played before with SGA & Lu Dort in the Nike Hoop Summit.
A lineup of
SGA
Dort
JDub
iHart
Chet
Is nasty because both JDub and Dort can play their natural roles now by adding Isaiah into the starting frontcourt.
Not enough shooters/ball handlers there to fit OKC's style of play. Wallace, or possibly Caruso would fit better than Hartenstein. Of course that all depends on who they are playing. In some cases Hartenstein may be the better choice.
Chet should play the 4 with hart at 5
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Paul George is the most inconsistent superstar right now. He is so overrated.
A superstar center & star guard works better for him. PG locking up the wing might help keep Embiid from being injured.
Bulls Know Josh Giddey is a real point guard he could average like 18 to 20 points with like 8 to 10 assists a night as the primary ball handler
and they'll win like 20 games
Second comment. Ihart said in his first interview, his roll will expand with the thunder. Expect more 3’s. In His 3rd year his value will be outrageous.
After everything else, the Thunder will have 3 to 4 first round picks in the 2025 draft, which will be very loaded. This includes the very talented Nikola Topic and a chance to get a very high 2025 1st-round pick with the pick swap with the Clippers. The beat goes on...
Giddy"s a good player but he doesn't fit like Caruso can with us. For those who don't believe just watch his highlights. The speed, awareness, tenacity, is much greater than what Giddy can give us. Even being 8 yrs older!!!
Let Caruso run the second team with Hartenstien !!
Heart is where the Holm is
What I am most afraid of is that Ihart or Caruso aren’t starters. We need to find a 2 guard, Isiah Joe isn’t a starter, Wallace isn’t ready and Wiggins isn’t a starter.
As a die hard OKC fan since 2008, I think we need a starter cause we got everything else. Rotational 5 can affect in the playoffs, we saw how we struggle to scored in the playoffs 😅
Dort will start. Caruso has injury problems and needs to come off the bench. The team is complete. There are no other moves to make.
@@TheJudgementofDog No it isn't... Dort was always gonna start. its Shai/Dort/J Dub/Chet/? I hart doesn't fit the 5 out offense i don't think he will start.
@@swish1457 Yep, that's exactly what all of the click baiters say.
@@swish1457 Agree. Think they should plug in Wallace in that fifth spot. If Wallace isn't working out, then go to Caruso, Joe or Wiggins.
Sam Presti is not a good leader.....Didn't pay J.Harden when he Clearly deserved the money
I hated losing hartenstien as a knicks fan, but i dont think he will be as effective with OKC. They are a different type of team. He will be important and i honestly want a Knicks/Thunder final next season. That would be a battle.
Giddy played better against USA than SGA and Joker.. he could be MVP..
Chet at 4
Mavs levels above them sorry folks 😚
I don't think so
@@TheAtman12 Full healthy OKC squad couldn’t even handle 60% healthy luka js 🥱🥱 4-2 2024 playoffs
@@slimfo378 luka pushes off every play ... To get open looks stop it 😂plus every game was close do you even know basketball
Why does every Thunder video always have one salty Mavs Fan lmao. Living rent free in your heads.
@@EvilNoodlz Lemme call luka, send yall back home again 🥱🥱🥱🥱 levels to this basketball buddy ol pal