Airbus’ Space Flex: Assisting passengers with reduced mobility
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- Опубліковано 30 лис 2014
- On 3 December, the EU is marking "European Day for People with Disabilities." The European aircraft manufacturer Airbus is already doing its part to help passengers with reduced mobility fly more easily. Airbus' "Space Flex" concept has reshaped its single-aisle aircraft to provide far greater access to the toilets. In addition, this new rear-cabin configuration option already exists on the company’s larger aircraft.
the person or team that designed space flex should work the planes and see for themselves what a monstrosity that back galley is. F.
Let’s be real here. It’s about putting in more seats... lol
Not for airbus, but the airlines defnitely will just put more seats there
nothing wrong with that
And there's something wrong with that?
That's terrible!
I'm flightattendant and i work in the A320neo spaceflex, we can't have enything in that galley 'cause the gravity center is affected by overwheight in the back, so the rear galley must be empty all the time. That's not practical for the service on board! ☹️
Airbus A320neo spaceflex 👎👎👎!
What about loosing half the galley?
It's not like they ever fed us anyways
What would they served to passengers anyway? Air?
+tnt ntn That was not funny.
McZeb No it was funny. Get over it.
With all my respect, I don't think Rosemary fit in those toilet. Those galley's are the worst airbus inovation, for safety, for working environement and for pax confort. But yes, airlines can add 6 seats in there.
Not ‘innovative’
Last row doesn’t have a window, toilets are tiny and no space for the crew to work!
And now this has caused a centre of gravity issue.
How about don't add the six extra seats in the back and just lengthen the seat pitch for all the other rows???
That wouldn't be efficient
Why are you commenting that here the airline decides how many seats they want not airbus!
I am soooo pissed off by airbus. I hate the fact that they are calling it a toilet for dissabled people when their main reason is clearly puting 6 more seats on the plane. The fact 2 toilets become 1 is secondary. And I am not saying dissabled passengers shouldn't be allowed to go to the toilet as we all do. But this wasnt the solution, what about all the crews that work on those planes for 12 hours 20 days a month? where is my working space? idiots you are airbus. I am disgusted about how mean companies can be just to make more profit. Ah one more thing. I hope airbus pays for all those crew members who will soon be needing back treatment since they will be constantly forced to be pulling out the back containers to prepare the service. And no more sitting down for your meal, cause Mr passenger wants to go to the toilet so move your ass up and fold the jumpseat. Goodbye privacy at work, goodbye feeling comfortable at work, WELCOME TO THE NEW A320 NON SPACE, SO YOU BETTER FLEX. Thank you airbus, its a clear improvement in the 21st century to make crew start tense their day when they realise its the fucking space flex. I hope companies where they think of their staff, wont go for this model. I feel a bit better now...
Dan Mc Dine there is nothing wrong with making disabled toilets and adding extra seats
sounds pretty cool
Think this might be good for low cost and short flight time operations. And how about more space for the crew to work in the galley?
This may be good, because the Airbus A350 can hold up 250-285 people if i recall correctly, I know it is 250 at least. Also technically this A350 can travel from New York to Singapore (17 hr flight) without refueling (even though it chooses not to). However realistically this can go perhaps go from France to New York which is a 7-8 hour flight, so some flights may be short or long. Also the crew members have a wider range cabin and plenty of room to sit (I don't think it would be an issue), so I am pretty sure it evens out in the end.
What they gonna work on? cooking and serving air on short-haul flights for cattle class passengers?
+tnt ntn You made the joke a second time and it's still not funny. Crew work really hard and in small and quite difficult conditions so no they aren't just going to be 'cooking and serving air' (terrible joke). You should probably educate yourself...and cattle class, what kind of insufrable snob are you, for short-haul flights seats are nearly always economy.
McZeb No honey, they don't served you Full meal in Cattle class that you called economy these days. Stop getting butthurt over everything. Educate yourself.
you can use the lav together with your best friend/spouse
What if someone opens the door dividing the two bathrooms when you are using it no privacy
Why exactly would people do that?
Fabulous!
I don't understand why this design, that has released room for six more seats, is flagged as so great for disabled flyers! The so-called wheelchair accessible toilet cannot be accessed independently by wheelchair-reliant flyers! Why, at the design stage, did you not forget commerce but think of dignity for the wheelchair-reliant flyer who still has to ask to use the toilet, get wheelbarrowed to the toilet and parked inside the toilet with the inability to perambulate themselves once in there, so for the true paraplegic, nigh on impossible to remove clothing as you're a dead duck sitting in your clothing without full size wheels to push up off of and swing out and back into your clothing!
Redesign this Space Flex, forget making room for six more seats and this time make it two roomy toilets with a wide enough door for a wheelchair-reliant flyer to be able to visit the toilet on their own using one of a pair of stowed folding self-perambulating wheelchairs and make the central partition between the two toilets, foldaway to allow an adult changing table to either drop down or be lowered from the roof, so that every single aspect of disability is catered for! Equality for all!
Why are you commenting that here the airline decides how many seats they want not airbus!
It's all well and good pointing out flaws when it's still better by providing more space. How is someone in a wheelchair supposed to transfer between the chair and the toilet in a normal plane toilet? Plane fuselages are narrow, there's only so much space that can be dedicated to toilets
The real win is for the extra seats. Let's be honest, the airline could care less about the mobility of the disabled. They want more seats to cram ppl on. More seats the more money they make. Ridiculous.
Are u still complaining if the 180 seats are booked and there's 6 extra seats, so 6 more possible bookings? In addition no one flies that less harmful to the environment than budget airlines
Why are you commenting that here the airline decides how many seats they want not airbus!
This is a bullshit solution for crew - who already have a difficult enough time finding a seat during bouts of turbulence on completely full flights. Coupled with the fact that one of the jump seats for crew completely blocks off a lavatory - (as it already does on some model A319 and A320 a/c with this type of configured galley, AB is setting itself up for lawsuits FROM crew. OSHA violations galore - the only solution to provide adequate seating for crew so that both lavs can be used is for the purchasing airline to block off the last row of seats for crew use, which defeats the purpose. I would NOT fly this a/c configuration as a passenger OR as crew.
Boeing doing the the same with the 737max 10
As many have already stated "brilliant" - well done Airbus
If airlines were made to come into line with other accessibility business law and not make those of us who use a wheelchair feel like we're given 'second-class' treatment, what they should have done here is not make two toilets which take time to convert into one but made one permanently accessible toilet in the back.
They have thought of commerce first and used the space where the old toilets were at the back end of each run of seats and added three 'money-making' seats at each end before the galley.
Why did they not just take three seats from where they were in front of the old toilets and put those three seats over into where one of the toilets were, leaving a big block of a six seat space to put another accessible toilet?
The longer new wheelchair-accessible toilet area at the back of the plane has enough length to take a drop-down changing table over the toilet, this then accommodates even the most needy disabled flyer.
Now THAT is real equality in design.
The six seats at the back which would be opposite the new toilet area that fits over the space where six seats would fit, would be priority-booked for passengers who needed close-access to the toilet.
A full-size folding wheelchair, self-pushing, could be stowed in both toilets, if the airline will still not make space for you to keep your own wheelchair with you, at least this gives you the dignity of being able to get to, and into the toilet, manoeuvre yourself in the toilet, rather than the current situation where you are manhandled into the toilet.
In this day and age, disabled people should not be made to feel like a lower class of citizen.
You definitely shouldn't have to put your hand up and ask to go to the toilet, which is why, if you are wheelchair-reliant, a chair should be in your reach to go to the toilet when you need.
The narrator's voice is awful.
Ban disabled people
be quiet you inconsiderate imbecile troll
Ban idiots like you