Do not buy the J.J. McCarthy hype, Pats have not received 'serious' offer for No. 3 pick | THE HERD
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- The 2024 NFL Draft is tomorrow and more reports are heating up. Peyton Manning said the Denver Broncos are reportedly 'very interested' in Michigan's J.J. McCarthy. Colin Cowherd does not understand the McCarthy hype, explaining how he is "Mitch Trubisky with a better college coach." Meanwhile, the New England Patriots expressed moving back in the draft but have reportedly not received a "serious" offer for the No. 3 pick. Colin reacts to the report and triples down on New England staying put at No. 3.
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Colin you loved Zach Wilson and thought Trubisky was worth the 2nd overall pick lol. You know we can go back to those videos right? They’re still on here 😂
we need to start pulling receipts on this dude
Colin loved Zach Wilson? I don’t remember it that way.
Yes he did...
I would love to see people give receipts on this guy
Hahahaha soo soo true. He forgot to mention how wrong he was about Josh Allen
“His ball dies” tells me you haven’t watched his tape. He has downsides, that isn’t one of them. His arm is elite
😂😂😂😂
According to what? He has thrown the ball like 90 times…
Colin was slobbering JJ for the last 3 weeks and now a 180 night before draft day? LOL color me surprised
It’s kinda wild. I just have to remember that draft week always goes like this. All the shows need some hot new takes to grab attention
In what videos? I have seen him being consistent that he doesn’t understand him even had a conversation with Nick Wright about it on the show that he doesn’t get the JJ McCarthy hype
That’s media. They hype guys up for the story then give their real opinion right before it’s time to put up
I was just going say this lol
Man, I thought I was going crazy for a second.😂
Did you watch the same McCarthy that the rest of us did? Velocity he was second all time at 61 MPH.
3rd* the record is a tie between 2 guys
@codyfeasts7196 the record is 62, the tie is at 61, so tied for second. Regardless for this guy to say he didn't have any velocity on the ball is a joke.
Fortunately for JJ, no NFL scout would ever listen to Colin Cowherd
maybe that why hes friends with so many FORMER gms lol, they must have took some of his advice XD
Someone in the media needs to seriously call out this clown
Pretty sure the term he once used on Baker was “undraftable”
He’s also ignoring that he completely whiffed on Darnold and Lance, so he’s not exactly Nostradamus in QB scouting.
McCarthy’s arm talent is awesome. Coaches can fix accuracy and foot mechanics and his leadership is top notch. Really hoping McCarthy falls to the right team and tears it up.
Compare JJ's 3rd and 4th down 4 yards plus (obvious passing downs) to pick up with anyone in the draft and JJ has better numbers. Say what you want, but he comes through in the clutch.
Can't wait for JJ to prove Colin wrong
Included everyone else but they have nothing to lose.
There's a difference between not getting offers and not getting offers the Patriots consider "serious"
JJ made some tremendous throws under pressure moving left.
I don’t think McCarthy will be good, but has Colin ever been right about a quarterback ? He’s even giving revisionist history on his baker takes
Coming from the same person saying Sam darnold would be “can’t miss”
Well...Sam will be a top 10 QB with the Vikings. Its not his fault he got drafted by the worst coached team in 30 years.
@@chrissmilich3530 😂😂😂😂😂
@@chrissmilich3530Man? Name a great USC QB please?
To be fair Sam Darnold was put in one of the worst teams and franchises ever.
He's thick, he's trunky. He has west coast style and midwest ethos.
Colin you need to watch more film. JJ throws with more velocity and accuracy on the run than many of the 1st round QB in th draft do with feet set. There is NO part of his throw he does better with feet set. He constantly threw under pressure and moved in the pocket.
Only 1 draft QB has a higher completion percentage. Yeah: he’ll miss a throw or two, but math proves he misses fewer than anybody who’s gonna he drafted besides Nix.
He’s smarter than any QB. He reads the field better than any. He’s the only one with extensive experience calling out protection packages, calling audibles, shifting into multiple variable movement sets….
Few weeks back you complained he was too small. Then you got called out that you were using incorrect stats and found he’s actually bigger than half of the 1st round considerations. Then you shift to a reasonable “not enough touches.” But now you’ve abandoned that and just are making things up?
He is without a doubt the most pro-ready QB out there. There is nobody who could be inserted as a starter THIS year and have more success. Long term, I don’t think he has the best pro career.
But I gotta find out why you invent reasons to hate on him.
And you’re a huge hypocrite if you’re OK with Caleb. Of all the QB, Caleb benefitted the most from playing on his team. His stats are what they are because he was stacked at WR, constantly played from behind and played beyobd subpar defenses. The few times he played solid defenses he absolutely struggled. You can’t apply the same phenomena differently to different guys.
Colin loved Trey Lance - called SF playing chess vs other teams playing checkers. No mention of that
Velocity McCarthy finished second all time at 61 MPH.
McCarthy excels when throwing over the middle: On those throws in 2023, he earned a 91.2 passing grade and recorded an 85.6% adjusted completion percentage
No way he’s comparing JJ to Zach Wilson 🤣
Come on CC it's gamesmanship, Pats did not say nobody made an doffer they said a "serious" offer. Meaning, we want more!
This, I am sure multiple teams have hit up the Pats, no one has presented a deal so good that they patriots have to take it. Honestly none of the top guys are so secure in their talent that a team wants to give up 4 firsts or whatever the pats want for it. I think there is enough talent in qbs 4-6 that teams may be willing to risk a less punishing trade to get a guy. There is also a ton less pressure on those teams if they think the Giants are bluffing and wont take a QB
My thoughts exactly.
@@ahastar1141 Exactly, Harbaugh pushing JJ could be so that the first 4 picks are QB's and the Chargers get the 1st non QB pick in the draft?
Literally, everything Colin says about JJ from 1:00 to 1:30 is completely backwards and wrong. So laughable that it feels like he is doing it just to rile up Michigan fans for clicks.
JJ was a 72% passer who was arguably the best thrower on the run in college football (and was best on 3rd and long).
Disagree with Colin on this one.
A message to the Minnesota Vikings, "DON'T DO IT"
Yes, don't do it
Sincerely,
Detroit, Green Bay, and Chicago
They’re taking penix
@@edgarlopez5406 with what pick?
@@williamgullett5911 Vikes take him at 11
@@williamgullett5911 nope
There wasn’t a better qb under pressure than McCarthy lol😊
Nix was actually better than anyone in the class and it's not even close
Nothing he said about J.J is true. He has a very strong arm, excels when throwing over the middle and some of his best throws are when he is evading pressure and rolling out of the pocket...... His weakness is touch on deep ball, but that's about it.... Other things that can be concerning is decision making at times, but I see that in every QB in the draft........
Colin doesn't know what he is talking about. JJ made numerous accurate throws on the run without his feet being set. Colin hasn't watched tape or any Michigan games when JJ had to make plays.
JJ has a 94.64% winning percentage your out of your minds he's 54-3 in both high school and College so far ! Wow ...
didn't Trevor have something similar?
Three years from now, if McCarthy flunks out, Colin will have "known it all along." AND, it McCarthy ends up being a star, Colin will have "known it all along." Not that Colin is the only one, and it's not like they don't all have to do that to remain semi-credible as an 'expert prognosticator' but man it gets old.
The question is if the league is taking the S.F. model of getting a lower pick qb and surrounding them with skilled positions. It got them to a SB along with not selling the farm for a single player.
Colin, JJ will have you slurping your words off of the men’s bathroom.
I mean I agree about McCarthy, but weren’t you the same guy who hated Stroud and Baker and loved Wilson?
This is the same guy That called baker mayfield undraftable but now he says 20 best qb
If McCarthy lands in Denver
Colin will say it’s a great pick
no matter what sean payton does he'll say it's a good pick
I think I’ll take Peyton manning’s analysis and insight on quarterback over Colin. Just a hunch. Fit matters and where you land matters, jj with Sean Payton would be sensational because Sean can coach tf outta the qb. From Taysom hill, to Winston, to Wilson, to brees, Sean always gets numbers outta the QB
JJ McCarthy is going to get some GM and Coach fired in a year
Nah JJ will go 2nd overall to Wash and will be a borderline HOFer.
Facts
@@michaelreid5615I hope and pray he goes second overall as a giants fan
@@j.r.3945 I am hoping for that as well as patriots fan
You are so clueless and a bozo to boot. JJ is next years early Rookie of the year candidate if he goes to the Vikings. If he goes to the “dumpster fire” called the Patriots he will have to meditate more because they don’t deserve him and are a train wreck.
I’ve said the same thing every year there’s a QB that comes out of nowhere and gets draft day hype
As a Vikings fan I am praying we don’t move up for McCarthy!
plzzzzzzzzzzzz
Same! If we move up for Maye, I’m cool with that. He has a higher ceiling. If we take Jj at 11, I’d be cool with that too. Keep our 2nd first this year and next years first and we can build around him and the defense.
Fun fact...no one here knows who will be the better pro.
@@dtross594 he is nothing special. Not worth a top 5 pick. In the second round yeah take him then but top 5 no way!
@@kevinathans4191 this is true. And that’s what also makes this fun. I’m happy that the Vikings are finally looking for an actual franchise qb. Someone of their choosing and someone the can develop. Kirk was good. But we knew he was never gonna deliver a chip to Minnesota.
We should credit McCarthy's agent for successfully hyping a third round talent to a potential top 5 pick.
Thank you....Media hype is maddening.
I think New England is proving his point by showing you need a ridiculous offer to take a qb from them
A punter or a kicker can easily be worth more than a point a game but the coach has to know when to kick the field goal.
Pats haven’t received offers because Trey Lance and Bryce Young happened. Trade up is too risky
I think that’s part of it i also think the patriots are tryna to really rob someone of an unnecessary amount of picks.
McCarthy doesn't look like them
Bryce Young was playing with depth players, he’ll prove EVERYONE wrong
Bryce went to a team of Pizza Hut delivery drivers.
@@dbbonham007 bryce young should be a lesson for teams looking to pick up a rookie QB and start them day 1 with nothing around them. You dont typically sit the number 1 over all draft pick, but man it would have been nice to see a bridge out there taking some of those hits
So you just described kirk cousins except jj is mobile, that the falcons just paid 45 million per year to
Colin is wrong
"he can work, in the right situation." So basically any quarterback...ever
Colin out here calling me out with the caffine
With all these quarterbacks available this draft Shedeur Sanders will definitely be a back up in 2025 draft he should try to get an extra year of eligibility.
Did you see that throw he made in the rose bowl to Roman Wilson where he caught a HB pass from Donovan Edwards? Jj has grit
Idk if caffeine dehydrates you..
COLON IS WRONG
You can thank Jim Harbaugh for all the JJ draft hype.
To spend a top 15 pick on him is pure deperation Tom foolery... To spend a 16th to 32nd is slightly dumb to moderately ignorant.
You are correct Colin ! Good take 😊
“Unless he has things that every single quarterback that has ever existed needs to succeed then he’s no good.” - Colin Cowherd basically 🤡
OMG the take on JJ is like you have never watched him play OR have 0 understanding of this game. FFS he made his best throws on the run! 🤦🏽♂️
The Cowboys should trade deck and cover half his salary and give to draft picks for next year to New England first and the second
So happy everyone is giving JJ that Brady/Jordan fuel. Everything is so good right now he needs that “hate” to keep him locked in…
I agree with that NE point but I also think they should be tryna pick a QB to sit behind Brisset at 3.
tryna?
I believe it is timing. Draft day is probably when they figure it out and try to grab that 3rd pick.
No serious offers will be given without knowing who is taken at 1&2.
Anyone have tape of comments when Brady came out for NFL draft after career at Mi?
Colin brown noses Jalen Hurts so much that he CONTINUES referring to Jayden Daniels as Jalen lmao
Especially with gushing over Jaylen Hurts interviews
3:10 who is this Jalyn Daniels??😂
McCarthy I have zero faith in him being the hyped prospect they claim him to be, but it would be crazy he ended up being a real franchise changing player.
Colin spitting with that mini water tangent
McCarthy had the 2nd highest recorded pass velocity at the combine btw. Only behind a small school qb . Just cutting thru a little cowherd fake news.
Also said Darnold over Josh Allen for a long time…. lol
Totally agree with this I’m a diehard Michigan fan and watch JJ’s every game he played in college. He definitely is not worth a first round pick the highest is the fourth or fifth round and develop him for two or three years
Umm no one will take JJ in top 3. They will want Maye or Daniels. He is the 4th qb.
4th? I’d argue 6th. Nix and Penix are better
@@Uncletimmo1980I’m telling you know JJ is pure smoke screen
Daniel's reminds people of that guy the QB the Raiders drafted out of LSU 1st overall a few years ago.
What was that guy's name......
@@Uncletimmo1980 Uh oh...North Carolina is in the South...
@@Uncletimmo1980 and here we are with the QB we should’ve took all along 😭😭😭 I’m freaking lit man.
Wait what position was Mahomes and Lamar picked ? Missed that one
New England has been quoted as saying that 3 1st round picks is not a serious offer! So they might just be living in lala land as far as what they want in return!
100% guaranteed Colin probably thought Tebow would be a HOFer coming out of college, what a joke
No. He argued Denver drafting Tebow was ludicrous. I remember Colin railing on about it daily back then. Long time Cowherd fan. He thought Darnold was a HOFer but not Tebow
Did he say 2 lines of dialogue for 10 minutes?
Didn’t Jordan palmer just go against what Colin said 😂😂😂
after the "his ball dies" tells me Colin didn't watch a lot of Michigan this year. or last, or the year before.
He had to come from behind against Alabama. Alabama was leading late, and JJ had to lead his team down the field. Then he had to win in overtime.
By "serious" they probably mean 3 first round picks.. a lot of teams I'm sure don't want to give up that much, not knowing who you're going to get. Draft night I'm sure they'll get a lot, if "their guy" is there
Yeah what was your take on Patrick Mahomes/sam darnold?
Collin, your my guy, but u have missed a lot on qbs. You LOVED Josh Rosen!!
If a QB is so ultra valuable then you're gonna see teams go fishing for guys like McCarthy. You just cant go fishing every year or using first and second round picks because you'll decimate your team.
Well a serious call might be asking for your entire draft class for three years
JJ just isn’t thick, trunky, or have that Midwest ethos that Colin loves….IYKYK
No they are not. The Broncos want Nix. Smoke!
Please Vikings don't trade up. Keep both 1st round picks.
I do not believe NE hasn’t gotten offers I do believe that many don’t think they’re gonna trade out so some don’t really bother
he's not ready to start but he has the tools to be elite is why they talk about him
lol. Hydrate and Gatorade shouldn’t be on the same sentence. Consume Sugar and food dye? Then yes Gatorade.
Why doesn’t he do another year in College
What is this rush to get to the NFL when the numbers show you clearly need more reps.
For his sake, I hope he does a year or two as a backup so he can get his physique in and NFL throwing reps in practice for a couple of years
this must be a joke to say mcCarthy is hype. not true. he will be a great qb in the league my friend. the same way that number 12 did it. this is coming from a ohio state fan.
Why do I sense that the Giants are doing this lol
You can’t make a serious offer if you don’t know who’s gonna be there at 3. The “media consensus” is Daniels at 2. According to you, If a third of the league is high on Daniels and the rumor is he’s going second why would you offer anything serious to New England if your guy isn’t going to be there? I expect them to receive more respectable offers once they are on the clock. Regardless, New England and the Krafts have said they need to address the quarterback situation and they’ve spoken highly of Drake Maye. I don’t see them moving from 3 unless it’s a record breaking haul. I think Maye is a patriot
Same guy who fawned over Fields and Lance…
It’s funny how Colin names all these bust and he claims he didn’t buy it 😆 bro we got the tape
ah yes take the word of Jordan Palmer who said McNamara was better when he got benched for JJ. Jordan Palmer is clueless
I think Rey Mysterio is going third over all.
There’s going to be only 2 maybe 3 QB who get drafted 1st pan out as stars
Baker Mayfield is Joe Montana if you are comparing him to any of those failures.
Colin, I love you.
But the logic of saying that the best quarterback drafted is not always the best quarterback makes no sense.
From a predictive standpoint if you really believe that, you trade the first pick for the 10th pick.
Shows Colin didn't watch any tape 😂😂
New England isn't getting any calls because everyone knows there is only 2 first round Qbs in this draft. I coached Qbs a long time. Jayden Daniels I have as Qb1. He isn't generational, but is a solid passer and a twitchy fast runner. Arm is ok, but his great footwork provide a solid throwing base and when he runs, he explodes into the secondary level.
Caleb Williams athletically is special, but the way he plays the Qb position is concerning. Just makes too many things difficult. Simple 3 step concepts with early wide open targets turns into run around playground football where he relies on his incredible improvising skills. As a coach he can be frustrating to grade because there are so many "why is he doing that?" comments on the grade sheet. Of course, you will have an equal amount of "Wow! what a play" with Caleb. His small frame is also concerning. All that being said, no doubt Caleb has a chance to be a top 10 Qb in the league.
Drake Maye to me needs a season or 2 to sit and learn. Eyes, footwork, timing, being ready to throw, adjusting protections...there is a lot. He has the size and can run. Just needs more time to learn how to play the Qb position if he is going to be an issue for NFL defenses.
JJ McCarthy has to many instances where I am asking myself if he saw that defender or not. He is only 21 and has plenty of time to develop. He needs to go to a team that can afford to let him marinate on the sideline and learn from a season pro Qb.
Penix no doubt has the best arm strength. His heavy feet are a problem. He throws way too many balls with a bad throwing base. Doesn't have the most fluid hips so he ends up throwing too many balls that sail. He also seems to struggle with seeing routes over the middle of the field. He is very comfortable throwing deep fades. I just can't see him handling muddy pockets well. Since he loves the deep pass, that means he will need time to let routes develop. He needs to quicken his footwork in a big way. With his injury history and not being a very twitchy Qb, he will scare teams off. All that being said, his aggressive approach to push the ball down field will dictate coverages. Add to that he has overcome so much, he has grit. Teammates love that. If he gets his footwork ironed out, he will be a fun Qb to watch indeed.
Cowherd has a really strange take today. He is celebrating the Falcons move for Penix and criticizing the JJ McCarthy move...LOL!!! He must have got paid to say that, otherwise he's still wasted from last night...