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LONGINES Heritage Classic: The Sector Dial Masterpiece
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- Опубліковано 17 сер 2024
- A Discussion around the Longines Heritage Classic, arguably one of the best modern reissues from the family. The focus looks at how the Design of the watch uses Vintage cues, showing excellent restraint and understanding of balance and proportion.
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I put my money where my mouth is, saved up and this watch is now on my wrist. I love it.
Longines is really kicking it up several notches!! They definitely deserve our attention! Best regards
I have a sneaky feeling that these pieces are going to catch on over the next few years - what's not to like? ;) Thanks for the comment Krist
super underrated brand, they could def compete with omega and rolex directly because the quality is there but I like that Swatch keeps them at a lower price point because that means I can afford them !
@@ID-Guy what s not to like? Silicon. No one s gonna be able to pass these watches on to the next gen since silicon parts won t be produced much longer.
@Harry Balls silicon is produced for computers and electronics and supplied to the watch world... once the computer industry find something better than silicon to use who s gonna give it to the maisons?
@Harry Balls just wow
So many watches ,so little money ,Thank you for your time and effort putting these videos together for us !!!
Pocket watches used to be called "six-eaters" because the small seconds would often cut off the six o'clock marker.
One of my pet peeves. 🤣
That is so cool! Thank you for this, Alex, I had no idea!
@@ID-Guy It is indeed a very cool part of their history, making me appreciate the cut-off 6 all the more.
cool fact Alexander did not know that, supposed to be reviewing a pocket watch for my channel soon it was my buddies grandfathers she said value is about 8 grand but i have no idea what brand it is or what it looks like. Curious if it will be a "six-eater". I invite you to subscribe to my channel and check it out !!
Why was 6 afraid of 7?
It wasn't. It was already eaten.
I tried this watch at the AD. Awesome! It also reminds me of the JLC master control 2017 sector dial, same spirit but different. Great job from longines.
Yeah and it this watch came out two years later after JLC
Its great seeing a brand paying so much attention to their classics (and making them affordable) I reckon these will be fan favourites in years to come. Thank you for the comment!
Also tried it on at an AD in Hawaii. Fit like a dream on my smaller wrist and the finishing was impeccable. This one is very high in the list for me!
Thanks for this fascinating analysis of the aesthetics of a watch dial, particularly your tryptich of three alternative treatments of the placing of the seconds. The element of playfulness, of trompe-l'oeil, in apparently placing one element 'on top of' or overlapping another (in this case the seconds on top of the 6 numeral) is what creates a sense of depth and gives interest to what would otherwise be a very two dimensional dial. Great stuff!
Literally within the past week Longines for me went from a "meh" brand, I'd never ever buy to a brand who produces several pieces that are in my top 10 list of my next piece. I call this the "Nomos effect".
Fantastic video IDGuy! What a terrific looking watch! The balance of the dial is tremendous. i think Longines absolutely hit it out of the park with this one!
I am so satisfied with mine. I am as happy as with any of my big brand watches. What is really amazing is the movement, in wearing it for five days, it’s not even off by a second a day .... It had all my wrist time since december when i got it. only the strap sucks, changed mine for a nomos black horween one. awsome combo. keeper for ever.
I finally pulled the trigger on this (the price had gone up, but the one I got had the old price), at about $1750 w/o tax after discount. I got the black leather strap with the blue jean NATO as the alternative strap.
OMG, especially with the black leather, which stays in the background more and makes the dial more "severe," this thing is a killer. In addition to the overall design, there are pleasing details like the shine on the metal washer (or whatever it is) holding the hands in place. The shine echoes that of the blued hands. The printed numbers also have a shine from some angles. What's more, the dial seems almost frozen in time if you look at it quickly, which is a fascinating effect. But then there's that wonderful small seconds with the texture of a Japanese rock garden.
As I said, it's killer, surpassing the original model.
I absolutely adore this watch! But until I see one in the flesh I will make do with my Dan Henry 1947 another beautiful looking sector dial. Thank you for covering this subject and keep up the good work 🌝.
Longines is getting my attention more and more
They really are a great brand and under rated. They could charge even more money for their watches if swatch wanted to put them at a higher price point but they like them where they are under Omega.
Not many watch marker with such a long watch making history, handsome design, respectable finishes & performance..... costing at a very reasonable price, not many others can do it.
8:20 you could slap "PATEK PHILIPPE" in the dial there, and see it'll fetch like 6 to 7 digit dollars in auction.
This one was on my short list of watches to get, but I ended up with a B&R BR03 White Ceramic on a white silicone strap and have absolutely no regrets. Stunning watch.
two totally different watches but the BR03 white Ceramic is a very sharp looking watch and more of my style as well. Congrats with your choice Ryan. Going to try to do a B&R review for my channel soon I love their watches
simply beautiful!
Thank you for featuring this watch. I’ve been a fan of this watch since it was announced.
Regarding the second hand section overlapping the 6, my father had a 1950s Longines watch (rectangular hour glass shaped) and that watch also had the second hand section overlap the 6. Thank you for the video.
Bravo and excellently reviewed - agree with you 100%
Great review with personnal input. Inspiring. Thanks.
The Longines Heritage Military 1938 is my favorite watch, it's just perfect.
Loved the review, and a lot of good points made! I accidentally stumble upon this watch as I went into boutique to try on the new IWC Portuguese 40mm with the sub dial, and immediately JLC came to mind too . IMO I found this Logines to be more charming, overall haha, and save me a lot more buying this over the IWC (and I know its the same range)
@IDGUY I love when you do modifications and point out the pluses and minuses. As I stated in my comment on the JLC video, this Longines shares a feel to the JLC at a much more affordable price point. I view this watch as a classy casual watch, especially on the blue suede.
I agree. That was very helpful.
Top notch review. Carefully considered points focused on the merits of design. About the JLC sector dial, decided on the chronograph as there was something about the time and date model I never liked but couldn’t pin down. Love the Longines though and the balance of the elements. Thanks for the educational tour!
Dang. That validated my recent order for this watch. I appreciate the considered examination of the complexities of this watch and the renders. Thanks too for including a photo of the watch on an aftermarket bracelet. Strap vs bracelet is an interesting design choice itself. Those lugs seem to pair more naturally to a strap. Bracelets are preferred by myself on account of the hot Texas climate where I live but I've been acquiring more watches on strap. The causal straps offered on this watch are curious. The blue suede is jaunty whereas the black tips its hand towards a purpose instrument perhaps even a military watch. Might try mine on a black or dark blue alligator strap to dress it up some. JLC used blue gator.
Try a silicon or rubber strap. That may work better in your humid weather.
wow I've been interested in this watch with the beads of rice strap - alas seemed to be discontinued a year ago or so - but looked yesterday & it's back in the fold available again - hence my geeking for more reviews on this simple elegent classy affordable ( still £2 grand + though ) in a fast show Jazz Club styli "Nice"
excellent review! waiting for mine to arrive- can't wait!
Fantastic looking watch...!the only thing that i don’t like is that 6 o clock dividing.Either cover it fully,or make it clear...but this is a splitting hairs.I really love how did they make it.A stunner!
Beautiful watch, I loved this the first time I saw and still do. Longines are really on form lately and thankfully have stopped ruining great reissues by adding things like date or unwanted dial text.
oh boy time for a new watch
any time is a good time for a new watch !
Beautiful rendition!!
bravo, great review. result: i am going to buy this watch. very interesting analysis of the interaction between the seconds dial and the "6". prior to seeing your alternate renditions, i would have said the balance and symmetry is perfect. that is, i didn't question the partial coverage of the 6 with the seconds dial. after looking at your alternate renditions, i see that ultimately the current incarnation is a compromise. the right compromise, but still a compromise. if jlc or pp employed this design, i would have paid much much more. it is refreshing that the right design is much much less. what a win.
Very nice watch and presentation.👍🏼
Great wideo, it is nice to hear someone whom opinion is very similar to mine 👍🏼😁
This is my realistic grail!!
Longines awakens the watch world.
Very interesting analysis.
This is a beauty.
Perhaps lost in the shuffle from the past week, the Omega Sector Dial CK859 re-issue has really flown under everyone's radar
Thank you for another great video - I was actually considering picking this up or perhaps the Bigeye. I don't have one by the brand at present, however I did buy that $400 book on Longines (not read it yet - I am busy and also lazy!). I do look forward to your video on the Bigeye and perhaps I will make a decision once I have seen both!
On a side note I was also considering a Doxa 200, either the sharkhunter black or the orange one; once you see the date is not centrally aligned in the window, however, you cannot unsee.
Could you review the JLC sector dial that came out a few years ago. They still producing them? Don't see many online and I am thinking about buying one for my hubby. Watch collecting has kept us in love over the years. (not really....kind of)
I like this watch a lot. I've always been a fan of sector dials.
If it were 42mm with 20mm lug spacing it would work better for me. The larger size would allow the sub second dial to stay out of the minute track and not be too small. Replacing the arabics with thicker lines (a doubled line at 12) would be cool too.
It wouldn't be hard to make this 100 meters water resistant, that would make it a great all around watch
This might be my new dress watch
god only knows how much I love this one. It just feels wrong to spend 2k on a reissue from longines.
Dario try to see this watch in person, the quality is there I promise. I love Longines
Great design. More than I want to spend, maybe I'll get a Dan Henry 1947.
You're not really comparing like to like the Dan Henry is a disposable watch long term and not built to last
I'm not sure scaling up/down the sub dial is an answer to the awkward 6? What about keeping the sub second the same size but deleting the 6 all together in favor of a thick baton like at 4 or 10, only very short? Have to say, love the no date!
I purchased this watch based on the strong praise from IDGuy. I agree that the overall design is creative and highly attractive. However it can be tricky to read the time at a glance, because the sector lines act as a kind of camouflage for the pencil hands. Nevertheless I am happy with my (grey-market) purchase.
Longings make such stylish pieces. I prefer 40mm + sizes.
I was also tempted by the Longines Heritage 1945, but the small second looks weird and out of proportion on that watch, too small, too high, cramped to the center. With this sector design, they got the small second right and it makes a huge difference.
What brushed beads of rice is that? I cant find it.🥲
There is another option with the cut-off 6 by the small seconds dial. You could have the 6 bleed into the subdial mimicking the approach taken for the stowa antea KS rose. It is a design quirk that convinced me to buy the stowa in the first place. Would be curious to see you do a video on that particular watch.
That occurred to me, too. It would have been good to see a rendition of that version as well.
Great video :)
What are your thoughts about that line running over that `G`? I couldn't get past that. Will breaking that line help? Teddy Baldassare has linked this video on his.
Usually I like a sub dial, but with a sector main dial I find this sub dial awkward shall we say. I prefer central seconds with sector dials. That is why I own the JLC sector date. Also my JLC has an 18cm strap. Very elegant and a standardised width for third party straps. 19mm is a pain.
ID GUY , greater articulation of Speach , very natural ……..love the sector dial …………..now offered with needed bracelet by HODINKEE i think ….off topic , love to guess what novels you like reading …Hemingway , or Haruki , Bukowsky(if I’m saying that right, Vonnegut , Bertoch Brecht
A beautiful looking watch. I wish it was an automatic, had a screw down crown, with 120-200m WR and was priced to beat a Sinn 556.
Well, it is an Automatic ;) More than 100m is a bit unrealistic for such a piece, but agreed, I wish it had at least 50m, but I'm sure Longines built in some buffer... And to my mind it is easily beating a Sinn 556, this is a Longines Calatrava!
@@misterbianco6202 My apologies, for some reason I thought it was a manual wind watch. And yes, 100m WR with a screw down crown would be enough for me. Thanks
Any thoughts on this model or stowa antea 365 can't choose between them
No comments on the crystal?
What do you call the steel bracelet used on this?
I prefer the new Titoni Heritage, similar to the Longines for the dual tone dial and the bracialet version . Longines not have a bracialet version.
Personally, wish they had gone with the smaller subseconds dial as rendered at 9:10. Legibility would remain the same for me.
This or the Heritage Flagship? Advice please.
Nice review. What’s the after-market steel bracelet?
Same question !!
How much time can one anticipate a Longines watch to lose / gain daily? I’m considering a L27928710 18K gold Heritage, but as attractive as that piece is, I’m worried it’d be a mistake? In short, how reliable are they? I’m not concerned about their prestige or lack thereof in others’ eyes, just curious about their chronometer quality.
eta movements are as decent as they come with regards to reliability
@@tansrb - thank you for that. I’m torn between the somewhat ‘modest’ Longines gold tank Heritage, or the Rolex Datejust 41 with the starkly white face . . . I really appreciate your reply, mate!
So, when are you going to pull the trigger on this lovely watch? It is evident that you want this time piece. Would really appreciate a hands-on review.
Nice dial. I would prefer a metal bracelet more matching the 1930's style.
The only thing that stops me buying it is the overlap on the 6,it messes with my OCD,it needs to be altered as you've done
I'd like to own a watch that covers my 6.
Stop making the watches I want increase in popularity!
Agreed.....
Hahaha It's not considered "cool" yet, you're all clear ;)
haha very true , this is a great looking watch
I would have liked to see be vertical line run from the 12 down through the sub dial to the 6.
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Take a look at the Vario Empire....................
i thought its a video footage of the watch, turns out its just compilation of stills.....
Pretty near to the JLC master control sector. Of course a much better watch, and 3 grant more expensive. So, terrific watch, I didn’t like the cut on the six number...
🤤😍
There is one drawback to this watch. This is the dial, "Lon-G-ines", the line over G ... how come it could happen??
It’s not a mistake. It’s more true to form. If you look st the Baltic sector dial, they avoid their brand name and that is a mistake :)
Intentional. I think of this as cross hairs. You sure aiming at something (a plane?). I think it would be an error to change the font size to miss the cross hairs.
Honestly I'd rather the large sub dial cover up the 6 than to have a small sub dial that's placed too high like the heritage 1945
It’s close, but needs fixes
I am not a fan of cutting/eating the numerals which Longines is famous for.
It just bothers me...
If you will cut it, then just remove it! 🤣
A boring video, you didn't even show the back of the watch nor did you explain the measurements of the buckle, thickness... In my opinion, it is a copy of the JLC, but the 39mm is too small and the suede blue strap of 19mm with pin buckle (instead of deployant)is totally inapropiate for a dress watch, should one want to change it, would be difficult to find that size.
Is this a copy of the JLC or the JLC a copy of the original Longines?
This is from the industrial design. Go for a more dumbed down site.
poorly done dial, looks like a terrible redail.
Seems to be only head-on stills, avoiding a view, I suspect, of a rather
'biscuit-tin' profile, which mars the 1945 model.
No mention of the caliber, and we all know why.
It's not a review, it's a sales-pitch; a regrettable feature which seems to be on the rise these days.
You gotta be kidding. This channel focuses on ID (industrial design). Jeez.
The Hodinkee limited edition of 500 pieces is now available! Looks way better now!
I just think they should have cut out the '6' completely, like on the older ones. I don't understand modern day reissues by brands today. Look at Seiko, they are completely messing up their 60th anniversary ones as well.