Lil Cease on 2Pac Accusing Biggie of Being Involved in His Shooting (Part 13)
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In this clip, Lil Cease reflects on the the night that 2Pac got shot in New York City and the way in with his beef with Biggie got started. He also addressed the rumors about Biggie's intention to recruit Foxy Brown for Junior M.A.F.I.A. during the rap group's developmental stage.
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It’s sad that Biggie and Pac both died without getting a chance to talk about everything a simple conversation probably would’ve ended all that shit
I'm not sure after the " I had sex with your wife" thing I mean how could one talk that out ?
Pac had the chance at 1996 soul train awards. But instead he decied to act like a gangster.
I agree with Antrell. But your wrong its documented that they seen each other and talked many many times.
They met a few times before Pac passed. Pac wasn't having it, shouting and screaming "Westside". So no a simple conversation wouldn't have ended it. Especially after he said "I f**ked your wife" and told lil Cease "I'll cut your young ass up"
@@odini6235 What we talking for? You told me to watch out for the guy who ended up putting 5 bullets in me! Then you say you don't know nothing? Then them same dudes, you putting money in they pockets?? And then release you Who Shot Ya a few month after I got shot? And then you got pics with my jewelry on (resized and all)! What you trying to say? I'm trying to keep the phoneys away... Pacs perspective
Pac wasn’t blaming them til they dropped “Who shot Ya” , he took that as a subliminal diss and the rest was history
who shot ya was not a diss
Sumn fishy abt it , especially when h he dropped it after pac got shot
@@whym8748 I know. That’s why I said “he took that as a subliminal diss” he took it wrong
Pac was a actor , he was using that to hype shit up , he was smart, he knew shit would push record sales
He didn't say Biggie set him up. He said Biggie had knowledge what was going to go down but failed to tell him. Also biggie didn't come see him in prison or couldn't give him any information after the fact. And biggie dropped Who Shot Ya whilst Pac was in prison. Biggie never showed the same love or loyalty back to Pac. For Pacs perspective listen to his last interview with Sway
why would they even tell biggie that they were gonna set him up? that makes no sense
here's the thing... i always tell ppl you can't expect another person to move the same way you do. y'all are two different ppl at the end of the day. Pac wanted Big to move like him. He said in the interview with Sway that he moves with a certain etiquette, but just becuz he moves like that he can't expect that from Big.
don't get me wrong it would be cool if ppl would treat you the same way you treat them but that isn't always the case
Big snaked him.. how if that’s your man you start running around with the dudes that set him up? Big and everyone that was there that night knows what happened
@@allensmithee6442 big wasnt running around with Haitian jack and jimmy henchmen, what are you talking about? Biggie told pac they was shiesty dudes beforehand
27 years later, after everyone has spoken on this, this pretty much sounds like what happened at Quad Studios and how it spiraled into the East/West beef:
1. After Pac's interview with AJ Benza in the Daily News accusing Haitian Jack of setting him up on the Ayanna Jackson rape case and basically calling him a groupie, Jimmy Henchman arranged to have Pac beat up and robbed to teach him a lesson. According to Gene Deal, Puff and Andre Harrell are eventually told by Jimmy this plan was in motion. Despite being friends with Pac, they say/do nothing because they know who Jimmy is and want no smoke.
2. Pac wasn't supposed to get shot, just beat up and robbed. But Pac pulled out which they didn't expect, shot himself accidentally while doing so, and when the robbers heard the shot all bets were off and they started shooting too.
3. According to Gene Deal, Biggie learns what happened afterward, but doesn't tell Pac because he knew Pac would confront Jimmy about it, saying how he found out, and then BIGGIE would be in trouble with Jimmy. And Biggie still had to live in Brooklyn. It was an unfortunate situation because you get why Pac was mad Biggie didn't help him figure things out afterward, Pac always helped his homies when they got into street shit in Cali (see the Treach/Rollin' 60s and Tim Dog in San Francisco situations), but you also get why Biggie didn't.
4. Pac is incensed, gets convicted of sexual battery, and is shipped off to Clinton Penitentiary to rot. Puff tells Biggie not to respond to Pac's interviews or visit Pac in prison. Ignore everything and don't fuel it so maybe stuff chills out over time. The only person who reaches out to Pac is Suge Knight who offers to get Pac out of prison and give him the street backup he needs to get revenge against the NYC street cats (Jimmy & Jack) who came at him. The rest is deadly history.
Beautifully articulated..👍👍
One of the best possible articulation of these events thus far
all facts and perfectly written. But also throwing in that sometime in section 4, Big drops Who Shot Ya, which doesnt look good if your man just got shot and is lowkey implicating you.
this makes no sense, Puffy obviously doesnt care about payback or else he wouldnt be in LA right now!!! Puffy has more involvement than this, in fact, I go as far as Puffy setting Biggie up as well. Big new he killed Pac, Biggie was fed up with Puffy and looking to leave, Puffy wasnt having that, BOOM youre gone also.
@@koffinradio But that song was made long before the shooting. I dont think Big kept his own masters. Whoever had control of the masters, most likely released that song without Bigs consent. Once it hit the streets, people thought it was a Pac diss because of the timing and people always looking to connect dots for controversy.
Love this series. RIP PAC & BIGGIE
Now.. 'it' s time to let them RIP.... Ok???
@@phill555 It’s been time to let them rip wym
Me too.
The Big, Cease and junior Mafia story never changed about what happened that night at Quad, is time everyone accept the truth, they didn't have anything to do with that man getting shot
2 pac lied and BiG died....
I'm 48 now & remember everything like it was yesterday, everything happened so fast & was so contentious from the shooting at quad, to the deaths of Pac, & Big, & everything else in between that I'm not surprised that both men were not able to sit down & have a face to face & work things out as grown men, I mean really if you think about it after the Quad shooting Pac was gone less than two years later...
Word...ill be 49 March 13th. This time was crazy.
Absolutely 🤝🤝
go focus on raising ur kids u bum
I’m about to turn 44. Remember that time. Still can’t believe the whole thing. I thought it was hype to sell records.
They did afterwards .... heard from a music execs
both big&pac actually sat down after both their deaths and had drinks and private party in the hills.
Tupac even said that Biggie warned him about them dudes. Tupac just expected himself from others. The way Tupac handled the wu-tang incident in LA, he wanted Biggie to handle the quad city incident in NY.
Also, Biggie ‘warned him’ a week or so prior and never gave a reason
Tupac was expected to go back to ballet arts school but didnt liste
@@ZYaKnoe249 It's puzzling because Pac didn't need a hunch about Jack. He was expecting beef due to the comments he made about Jack and him falling out with Kack. That's why I think Big told him about Jack from the beginning...just like 2pac's own movie portrays.
yep! and ppl need to learn that you can't expect another person to move the same way you do.
I believe biggie warned him about Haitian jack or henchmen. Not the dudes that shot him
But why didn't Biggie and the junior Mafia reach out to Pac while in prison? I always wondered why didn't Biggie acknowledge Pac even in prison.... No letters or even a visit?
Puff told him not to which was a huge mistake in hindsight.
Because when Tupac got shot he came up the elevator and Jimmy Henchman was there with Puffy. We know now Jimmy Henchman sent the hit.
there was alot of mistakes done from biggie side then you had people in jail telling tupac biggie home boy shot you it made tupac believe that biggie knew something and didnt tell him
they owed pac something? no.
@@gnarlydude2419 They owed him for sure, pac took gun charges for these fools.
He explained nyc perfectly 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Right!
🤝😎💯
Not just NY East Coast Period.
"New York is a very mind your business city"
Lol thats the east coast in general really
Love this interview with Lil Cease. A really conversation with a real dude.
No. Not a real dude.
Man Cease is that guy you love in your crew but know he’s always embellishing.
Facts!
Don't think big or any of em had anything to do wit it, but them hollering from the balcony right before and getting shot 5 times i'm sure that would make anybody paranoid
Well said my guy I no you ain't no pac groupie 🤗
@@King-ns6dw i sure am a pac groupie but i'm an honest rational person 🤣😂
@@ChanceJolivette I take that bk my brother you don't deserve to be called a pac groupie. Your a pac fan a big difference who speaks sense.
I dont think BIG or Puff knew about the hit. But I wonder at 23 would I have thought any differently. Paranoia would definitely set in especially going to jail for a crime I didnt committ right after
@@ChanceJolivette dope sneaker channel bro...I Fs witchu 👊💯👊
I think Biggie was an unfortunate victim because he was just too beloved and too nice. A man ahead of his time. He could be hardcore, versatile, loveable, funny, confident, vulnerable, I think just a genuine good human being. But there was too many snakes around that got issues with their selves and projected it on him and was like "yo we gotta put this brigt light out". Sad. Was Biggie and Pac really that close as friends though? I feel like so much of this hip-hop bullshit gets blown out of proportion. Art imitating life and life imitating art. No other genre of music is as great as hip-hop but at the same time no other genre is as synonymous with bullshit "streetlife" built into it that ultimately sabotages the artists, their money and in this case their lives.
Nice? Lol. The guy that a day before his death got in a a dv incident. The guy who had Kim against the wall gasping for air ? Y’all want big to be Jesus so bad
@@SoundBiteInc- I didn't say perfect but I think generally he may have been a good human being
@@SparkyTakedown and yes pac n big was close. Pac let big stay with him ,Pac was gonna manage big with Thug Life and help him get in the game. Once puff gave him that 25k and pac couldn’t give him nothing cuz of his legal fees,as pac said “he wasn’t screaming thug life no more.”
@@SoundBiteInc- Thank you for the background info
@@SparkyTakedown mhm. Sorry if I came off a little agressive but some biggie fans be really swearing Biggie was holier than thou and pac was just this negative evil human being. So I get a lil triggered when I see that “good person” thing (which i shouldn’t)
I believe CEASE LOW-KEY. PAC was extraordinary but I think he made an initial big mistake no pun intended blaming BIG for holding info about the incident he knew nothing about and biggie made a bigger mistake by listening to PUFFY and acting secretive and or not passionately expressing to the media that he would never do some shit like that. It's a time to be chill and quiet and it's a time to Stand 10 toes down loud about not setting up or hurting a home boy in any ways shape or form. Big was trying to play neutral to keep those actual wolves who did that bs to pac off of him and Diddy but in the process he lost his life. Sometimes the fence is not the position to take. However they were young and ignorant to advanced survival psychology around those hidden figures in their camps. It was all dark order shit mane. May they both rest easy now. 🙏
🤦🤦🤦🤦 he speaking facts
Big did lots of interviews saying he had nothing to do with it
right... I think around the time of one nation he had plans to put it on the table but one nation never came to fruition. cease seems 💯 he was a kid
@@columbusohio72 However big had a very lackadaisical attitude about it and kept pac speculating with too much suspense because of his own fear of the real hitters like Jimmy henchmen, tut, and Jack etc who controlled that underworld. Pac expected everyone to be recklessly fearless like him but they just didn't have that revolutionary fearlessness in them. It wasn't the thug side that made pac so fearless, it was the revolutionary side like Malcom had. Big also did some questionable artistic shit after pacs death freestyling long kiss 💋 goodnight and going back to Cali despite the drama. Even after pac got popped the 1st time he dropped *who shot ya* his timing was ridiculously ignorant to be a so called former homie of pacs.
Pac was paranoid that's all uts called ptsd or maybe he just knew we will never know frfr
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This Lil Cease interview 🔥 🔥 🔥 You can tell he’s a genuine good dude
This is this new York narrative this is what 2pac was talking about right here
"Narrative" is the most overused word in the past century.
@UCNZFtIQptPQcAP2UPT28CHg thats why i killed your ballet queen 🤣💯
2pac fans would get done in the same way like 2pac had if they ever tried a real one 💯
Or maybe is just the truth
Yeah I see also
I remember that time when it happened. Alot of things was happening to Pac back to back to back. And he came out of prison a totally different rapper by dissing NYC hard and it wasn't the best time for hip hop.
Cease the best interview about this Topic and Biggie in general
Yep he really is. He was there for all of it
No Gene Deal is he knows way more stuff
Imagine if Lil Cease didn’t spot Pac from all the way up on the balcony. Pac probably wouldn’t have blamed them
Pac stood out like a sore thumb due to his rainbow lgtbq looking clothes he wore everywhere 🤣🌈
nah once he found out they was there he might have still been suspicious. Cuz if the guys was just regular stick up kids there's Big, Puff and Andre them in the building they got money, why the guys didn't go rob them? but soon as Pac reach he the only one out of all of them that got robbed?
@@Fatalflawtv he was specifically targeted because of a interview he did in The NY Times speaking on street situations in NY. It wasn’t a random thing but it had nothing to do with Biggie it was PACS own issues with other people that caused him to be set up to get robbed. He only got shot because he resisted(Shooting him self in the process) but originally him getting robbed was just supposed to be a way to embarrass him/teach him a lesson. He was indeed set up just not by Biggie which he knew because the same people that did it were the people he was affiliated with in the streets of NY.
Wtf you talking about??
@@jalenaverylloydaveryiisson8862 🤡
Cease look serious and nervous in the thumbnail
he doesnt wanna say the wrong thing .theres still some of the gangstas around that were about then.
@@connectlogic true
I like this guy doing the interviews he do a pretty good job
Yes way better then Vlad always doing all the talking never shutting up lol
@@tuffgong42060 can’t we appreciate without the venom?
Better than JU
He’s gotten so much better from when he started, as it should be, but yall hating on Glad realize he getting techniques & questions from the man you love to hate?
You mean “ he’s doing” - a pretty good job.
Or “he’s done” - pretty good job so far.
Stop asking this liar questions about Pac😒
Biggie may not have known. But why release “who shot ya?” when your friend is shot and and in jail? It sounds silly in the least!
That song was leaked before the shooting tho go and listen to the version with Keith Murray
@@MoonwalkerKing-gc5jm facts💯💯
Do you know how long it took to press and print records back in 94. That song was coming out before the shooting
You sound dumb ass fuck just because someone I knows get shot I'm not supposed to drop a sound I made called you shot ya u dumb as fuck
Wasn't him. He was just a rapper BLAME BITCH ASS PUFF
Pac never said Big set him up, all he said niggas knew
But BIG didn't know. And Pac knew who set him up
@@3rdGenerationCancer BIG knew the guy and told Pac to stop hanging with dude because he has a street rep not to be played but he wasn’t telling Pac everything he wanted to know
@@GTA_DISCIPLE Mike Tyson also told Pac to stop hanging around them dudes. Mike adn BIG knew Pac wasn't a street dude like that.
These questions are a waste of time. Big was aware that Pac felt some type of way because he mentioned that he was pissed about Pac's Vibe interview because "he was on some shit like we set him up". But he still released Who shot ya? He knew that would add fuel to the flames and then he released Long kiss goodbye after Pac had died while Nas and others showed respect. Big was clearly disloyal and paid for it with his life
Who shot ya recorded before shooting. Big did not control of release of it. I Think his labels trying to sell records that’s not on BIg though.
@@BigGfromgrouphome Dude,he literally went around performing it and Long Kiss after Pac's death. And Pac was reckless and didn't learn for shit. Pac got himself shot on both occasions and was about to get himself put back in prison committing dumb crimes in 96. Neither of them were wise like people believe
@@AlfaQgoode True. I don’t feel BIG was reckless but not smart with some moves at the end To your point
FAX 💯❌💯
@@BigGfromgrouphome They were both reckless. Big died a few minutes after shaking hands and hanging with the guys he was well aware killed Pac. That was disloyal and reckless at a party where many Deathrow affiliates attended. And Pac waged war against rappers instead of the actual guys involved in the shooting. They were great musicians but they both played stupid games and won stupid prizes
Proper interview, we Brooklyn always stand up
Can’t wait till he ask him about Kim 😩⌛️
Already one of my favorite interviews!! Love this!
Rip pac and big
Love this interview Legendary
Rest in peace Biggie Small condolence to the family your soul live on
If he sees this, I’m pretty sure that he will say thank you.
His soul is burning duke.
@@willt8848 🙄
@@chadk890 smh
Like Cease said, the shit happened so fast. Pac probably was frustrated w/ how everything went and just took it out on BIG and the Mafia, especially being as thought they blew up like never before after he went to jail. Not saying they would've never blown had Pac not went to jail, but that was just the order of events. Just by coincident. Biggie was gonna blow regardless, the talent was there. I just wish him and Pac would have never had that falling out. One of the worst things that could have ever happened to hip-hop. They both peaked practically at the same time. Can you imagine them doing joint projects from 1994 - 1997 had Pac never got robbed and went to jail? I just feel us fans got robbed of what could've been. Rest in peace to both, and everybody else involved that lost their lives (Big Stretch, Syke, etc.).
Coming from Jersey imagine New Yorkers minding their business ' yea okay
😂😂
"LIL´CEASE MIGHT BE THE DOPEST VLADTV INTERVIEW THIS YEAR"..!!
What about long kiss goodnight? Why brag on his death?
Atleast somebody gets it. Dude was bragging about the robbery and hanging with Jimmy. I Got A Story To Tell was Jimmy's story he told Big for his raps. Not sure why dudes still gotta paint Big as innocent?
@@willt8848 story to tell wasnt jimmy story, it was about biggie and Anthony mason, John starks and fat joe confirmed it, where the hell you get jimmy from lmaoo
@@6thbr871 You do know that's not a personal story of Big right? Somebody told him the story. Maybe it wasn't this is exact song but Jimmy himself said he was telling Big stories that Big used on the album. I'm confident saying this after double and triple checking. Ran across some other interesting things like Dexter Isaac saying Big was a friend of his and some alleged info from a proffer Jimmy signed but I need to research that more before repeating it. If true then Big and Puff ain't looking good in the Quad situation.
I’m a massive fan of both Biggie and Pac but cmon, they in the studio in New York, their own turf and they didn’t know nothing at all about Pac being robbed / shot? How?
How is BIG supposed to know what Jimmy Henchman was doing? Big and Puff feared Jimmy and Jack. They was real killers.
@@mediacommunications5112 no doubt, people do forget BIG was only 22 when Pac got shot. Very young, but they still would of known… fear is stronger than love… remember that, they feared someone and chose to keep quiet than stand by someone who loved them.
NY is a huge place. No one got time to keep tabs on people
@@BigGfromgrouphome ontop of the fact there was lack of correspondence, that means communication, they could of had a conversation but why didn’t they?
Pac was the biggest studio gangster around ny that played disney roles
What sucks for those around both Pac and Big is that they are stuck in their deaths. Doesn’t seem like their lives moved on.
L
They Never tried to Help! He showed them Love... 💔
I’ll always believe BIG and/or Puffy was aware of the robbery aspect it. I don’t think they expected Pac to get shot.
Why would they know what was gonna happen? They didn’t know what was going on lol.
PAC knew he made a song dissing the ppl responsible he just said big did it to sell records
Tupac never said Biggie did it. He referenced the song ‘Who Shot Ya’ stop playing dumb
@@marshallcarter4928 Gene Deal said Puff knew but Big didn't
Tell De Truth who walked out with Jimmy?
When we all know now that Tupac was the biggest help in Biggie getting some notoriety, how is it that Biggie never shouted him out on his music or CD sleeve or interviews on the promotion of his first album
TSFU 😂 don't play Biggie like that he Blew Up on He's Own!
Tupac Stans be like
Go back and read the thank yous on the first album....He thanked him in print
He thanked Pac and Thug life in the credits
You Tupac fans are actually sick. Like, sick mentally 🤣
The problem was that Cease greeted Pac before the shooting which made it look like a set up. Then Pac went to jail and no 1 from Bad boy reached out to 2pac to clear the air or visited or write him a letter, which was strike 2. The 3rd strike was when they didnt reach out towards Pac but were able to play "Who Shot Ya." Only when he was in jail, SMDH... on top of that Pac got charged with guns that Junior Mafia left in the apartment and still the East Coast rappers didn't say what's up to Pac and played "Who shot Ya" after Pac got shot. The left over Junior Mafia guns in Pac's room further made it seem like they were trying to get Pac set up when the cops came in to search the room.
You know Biggie went to check on him in the hospital right after? His father and aunt confirmed it. What more did you expect Biggie to do? Pac started dissing him after that for no reason so why tf would he keep on trying to contact Tupac? At the point it’s f-ck Tupac the same way it was f-ck Biggie.
Pac had a big mouth
Even if Biggie knew he would’ve been right not to say anything to that loose lip dude
@@kevinnoheart4778 Pac was the 1st rapper to take the road he took, ever. This guy would walk from place to place like a regular. Talk to anybody male/female like a regular guy. Get in fights like a regular guy. Talk trash when he felt disrespected like a regular guy. But... he was a celebrity now. He didn't know they could set him up, loose money, go to jail, lie on him, can cause a coastal beef. It was all new to him and everyone. After him getting framed, set up, shot, thrown to jail a lot of people in the streets/ people outside of the law/ people that got in trouble with gangsters or the law moved a lot different. Even rappers started to learn to stop beefs.
Daamn this triga got 3 shout outs in hit em up along with the countless times junior maffia got mentioned
Pac was right. Lil Cease and Big knew what was about to happen but to decided to 'mind their own business' out of fear or out of respect for Jack and Jimmy
False
Super false. They had no idea
false but if they did know they probably wouldnt have said though.
If they knew what was coming, Lil Cease would never had holla’d at Pac. They could have remained quiet and allowed everything to take place without Pac even knowing they were there. It’s practically common sense.
@@TosereOjeme Jack and Jimmy used to bully NYC rappers around that time in the early 90s. Big and Lil Cease didn't want to upset them
Need more cease interviews
Be real pac said it plenty of times biggie didn't have nothing to do with that actual shooting,pac was pissed cause he felt biggie kept calling himself the king of new York and couldn't give him no answers about what happened.and in prison he found out himself about who and why he was hit.thats why at the end of against all odds pac says you told me don't go to war until I get my money right,I got my money right now I want war.thats because hinchmen ain't that message to Pac saying you don't have your money up for war with me.and for the record that was confirmed by napoleon.Get your story right.
Thank you
Interesting if this is true
Facts
@@ZYaKnoe249 no problem my G 💯
Just call it what it is. Pac didn’t have smoke for Jimmy Henchmen so he chose to go at Big who was an easier target
I remember hearing about 2pacs death for the first time. I was 13yo. My friend from school went up to me first thing in the morning and said, "the homie 2pacs dead" I didn't really care TBH. Wasn't really interested in Pacs music at that time. I bought ALL Eyez On Me a year later and became a fanatic ever since. I remember hearing about Biggies death in the car, on the radio while my mom and I were in the church parking lot. I was a little more invested and educated on the whole Pac and Biggie scandal by that time and a bit more familiar with both their music, so Biggies death hit me a little harder. I remember staring at the radio in awe as they were announcing it. The radio DJ's sounded bummed out and depleted, understandably. I'll never forget that day.
I was 15 and at my grandma's house in shock hearing about 2pacs death. Months later, I was in the car with my parents when I first heard "Hypnotized". Then the DJ said "that was the late Notorious BIG". Just crazy!
When biggie release who shot ya while pac in prison think about the song timing doesn't see right
It’s always the right time to drop a hot song
Especially when ur just warming up
That song is one of Biggie strongest too
Most ppl don’t know that the original song feat Keith Murray months before Pac was shot & sent to prison 💯
“ M A K A V E L L I DA D O N “ ❤️❤️
Why nobody from Biggie's camp visit or write Pac in Jail?
of course he's going to say Big had nothing to do with it, even if he did. It's called loyalty
so fukin a mans wife is loyalty???? gtfoh
You know what happened, jealousy is a monster.
How many times you gotta warn a guy that the dudes he's hanging around might lead to his demised? Tupac brought all of his misfortunes on himself
You mean like people warned Biggie about Cali? Oh..
@@ZYaKnoe249 yeah, just like people warned Big about Cali. And what your point? Lol… The fact still remains that Pac was warned about them dudes who was rolling with… You fan boys can’t even find it in yourselves to blame Pac for anyway 🤣… Ya’ll still hypnotised by a dude that’s been dead all these years 🤦🏾♂️
@@SocaDonTV all big said was don't hang around that dude one week before, why was biggie warning him not to chill with him maybe it's because he knew but try to tell Pac without snitching , maybe little C's didn't know because he was 13 14
@@SocaDonTV You know the Big warning was only like a week a two before the shooting and according to Pac he asked Big why? All Big said he would tell him later. So that meant he knew they were planning something against Pac. When it's that's serious you gotta do better than don't hang with dudes like a mother wanting you to stay away from a bad influence. Nigga when Pac ask why Big should've told him something. He didn't now they both dead.
@@willt8848 for real if someone came up to me and said hey don't hang around that dude and I said why and they didn't explain I'd be confused
It's sad when you really think about it, BIG basically was an innocent bystander, whose life was taken... I mean really think about it. he did absolutely nothing wrong.
Cease ain’t telling the whole truth pac said in vibe magazine he kept asking big who shot him pac said he kept sending messages like he was a bitch or something. Big knew who shot pac and didn’t tell him because he didn’t want to pick sides. That’s how the beef started pac felt like he put big on let him rock some shows and he get hit in big city and u can’t say or tell me who shot me .
LMAO at cease saying he's sick of talking about BIG and reliving it then the entire interview is about that lol
He never accused big of being involved , but like he said almost every rapper in NY was in that building and he was the only one targeted ,robbed and shot ,I'd question that also , but he felt they knew more than what they were willing to talk about , he also said they were calling his phone constantly trying to get him to that location so if u look at it from his point of view it does seem like a set up or someone there knew what was about to happen
PAC had some serious issues with his own NYC crew after the rape and other stuff. Same guys PAC said BIG told him to stay away from.
Those weren’t the guys
@@d3vp131 right but when it all went down at first he didn't know but he addressed it on against all odds and if u notice he never really mentioned big on his last album he took direct aim at the a team ,Jay z and Nas and ll cool j
They wasn’t calling him. It was Jimmy Henchman who was calling him.
Bro be quiet name the rappers who was in the building? Lil shawn big who else was in there?
2Pac knew who show him. The main problem was that 2Pac thought Biggie knew about it beforehand.
According to Gene, Biggie knew
@@ZYaKnoe249 see it gets crazy
@@ZYaKnoe249 according to orlando, he knew how pac wasnt a thug afterall 🤷♂️
@@ZYaKnoe249
U keep saying that
Post the link and the time stamp on Big Gene page
😂 Pac fan boys flooding these Cease interviews like cockroaches
Lil Cease and Nopoleon will forever be some real G's for holding BIG & PAC down.
Not Napoleon
@@RacingRoman44 Napoleon I'd the main one that hold 2pac down
Lil c Being real he gonna keep u 100 rip PAC and Biggie
"99.9%" by Jeru the Damaja
WHAT MAKES ME LAUGH ! 😝😝
THERES A VIDEO OF BIGGIE & CLICK SHARING & WEARING JEWELLERY REAL SIMILAR TO 2 PACS ! 💯
THERE WERE ALL IN THE VIDEO 📹 DANCING ! 🕺 😭🤣🤣
I saw Puffy and Jimmy Henchmen in the lobby together on the news video the night Pac got shot. Puffy knew something for sure.
Biggie was the victim of a hater who had real fame and love who died lying on him. His demise moved the hearts and hands of them who missed their beloved ghetto star. He died saying Biggie you sat me up at Quad studio, and Biggie definitely had to pay for that.
A hater that let your perform at his shows when you were a nobody, a hater that take gun charges for you, a hater that let you stay at his house, a hater that teach you the do's and don'ts of the industry you trying to make it in. Never seen a hater so kind..
Cease is right. New York has always been like that. Everyone minds their own. That’s why they made the “See something, Say something” phrase 💯😭
Yet everybody knows everyone business
It’s crazy how young Cease was when all of this occurred back then
There is Audio of 2pac talking about Biggie knowing about that & had something to do with 2pac getting arrested for gun possesion-!!!!
Rest in peace Tupac condolence to the family your soul live on
PAC had a battery in his back (deathrow)
And Biggie had diabetes in his system
Rip baby Lane
@@Luna_starrr947 rip poochie
@@ZYaKnoe249 2pac heart stopped working lol. Diddy still enjoying life untouched 😂😂
Pac was out of jail for like 2 months after getting found guilty
You gotta understand pac was working on his album before going to jail and big was just blowing up. They didn’t know that there was an issue.
Pqc got his cheeks clapped hard while locked up too
I am sick and tired of the same ass questions about 2pac and Biggie. Let’s move on and move forward. Same questions and answers for the last almost 30 years now
don’t click on videos then if it’s pissin u off that bad 😂😂
Nobody will ever know the truth but of course if you're a die hard Tupac fan you may think he's lying so know matter he says it won't be enough to change your mind.
Cool but should've at the very least visited your "boy" when he was locked up because then he knows that who shot ya record is not a diss. These guys hit Pac with too many subliminals for their story to be believable.
Well according to Gene Deal in his Raw Deal (I believe it’s part 3 or 4) he says that Biggie admitted to him that he was aware of what was going to happen so who knows
After the fact
False, he asks him about it during the moment and Biggie told him he knew. He acknowledges that it wasn’t suppose to end up as a shooting
@@ZYaKnoe249 so what's the difference
Now you know for a fact that’s not what Gene said 🤣… Wtf is wrong with you loool
You tell me, either way he knew somethin was going to happen to his ‘friend’
Pac knew big and puff didn't set him up..he just didn't want no smoke with Jimmy henchmen so I went the safer route.
They should get people from both sides in one room and then drop this conversation...
Tupac never accused Biggie of setting him up. Tupac said Puffy was in on it because Jimmy Henchman sent the hit. When Tupac got shot he came up the elevator and Jimmy Henchman was there with Puffy. Tupac was mad at Biggie for not coming and telling him what happened and who did it.
i agree
Pac knew who did it and Big had nothing to do with that
Facts
Yeah, he just ending up hanging with the niggas involved by coincidence 🥴
@@SevenHunnid lol
2pac felt like if biggie is Portrayed he was the ultimate Street dude from N.Y....and your King of New York SUPPOSEDLY.....Then you should know these street things happening.....Especially to someone you call your friend.....even if Biggie didn't know initially what was going on.....he could of found out.....but he couldn't because he Really wasn't who he Portrayed ‼️💯
Either I'm high or he talking 100 mph about this situation lol
I get what he saying but got to imagine the man sitting in a cell trying to wrap his mind around what happened AND he don’t get any letters or support in there?
Don't forget big went to the hospital to return pacs gun. He wasn't allowed to see pac so that's not bigs fault
big went there the next day, pac left the hospital the same night.
@@pcangeldust no. Pac was still there when big went. That's how big was able to meet his dad. Pacs security just wouldn't let big go see him
The outlaws have even said and a lot of people in Tupacs camp said that’s Pac planned on squashing everything when he got back from Vegas. Unfortunately he didn’t return 😔
Shoutout to him for breaking down how New York is because a lot of people think we all together in we not , even if we in the same Borough
I kan’t believe him, his body language all over the place.
You "kant" spell either
@@King-ns6dw enjoy your day, king.
@@King-ns6dw damn
Pac himself knew where that came from people need to listen the interview Majesty did talking about the incident remember Pac's version is not the absolute truth he contradicted himself alot at first he said "Biggie did it" then it changed "Biggie knew and didnt warn me" then in the interview with Sway he said Biggie told him "Dont hang with this nigga" weeks prior to the robbery, then he switched it up to say "Biggie didnt hold me down while in jail how you the king of NY and dont hold me down" but in the same breath he claimed he knew Biggie wasnt a player before the fame in other words Pac was trippin hard
Tupac ran his mouth faster than his brain.
Don't worry. Tupac is right where he belongs.
This is not factual. Tupac never implicated Biggie in the shooting. He’s always believe he was aware it was going to happen. Even in the VIBE interview while he was in jail. He never says Biggie was apart of it. Using Majesty as a source when Zayd contradicts his story is funny
@@celestialbeing5291 🤡
Listen to Tupac's luke's peep show interview video with tupac he new who shot him pac almost slips up in that video an say here's the Rolex you forgot because they left the Rolex hatian jack got him on his wrist but catches himself h says com try to get this one pac new who had him shot and why
I've seen New York move different when it comes to talking to certain people and hang with people
Biggie knew about it and didn't say anything, but that was cos he was scared to go against the real gangstas he hung around.
I don’t think biggie had anything to do with that
He didn’t at all. He was mad cuz he thought Biggie knew about it before it happened.
I’m a huge pac fan but I genuinely feel he got it completely wrong with his views on the shooting.
I mean pac never said big set him up ! That never came out his mouth
@@papiking1991 so what were his views?
@@machoboyrandyandsavage3439 Pac's view was that Biggie and all the Bad Boy crew at least knew who was behind the whole plan to rob him but wouldn't tell him anything. Obviously if they actually did know who did it and told Pac, that would put them at danger as well, which understandably they probably wanted to avoid. But, Pac's mentality was if you were in the same situation out in LA, you're my homeboy, I would use my pull I have to find out and inform you who it was and be willing to go to war with them if they come after me for telling you. Before all that though, Pac accused Haitian Jack of setting Pac up for the rape allegation charge with Ayanna Jackson, where Pac said they were partying in his hotel room, he hooked up with her and later fell asleep in the room connected to that room. When he woke up, Ayanna was screaming rape to Pac, when Haitian Jack and a couple others Pac didn't know very well were in that room with her. Haitian Jack was a mid level drug dealer. His boss, Jimmy Henchman, didn't take Pac's public rumors of Haitian Jack being responsible for Pac getting the rape charge lightly, so he decided to have Pac beat up and robbed to teach him a lesson. Jimmy was a high level drug dealer in NYC at that time and was well connected. Apparently Puff and Andre Harrell heard about the plan through the grapevine but remained silent given who Jimmy is/was. After the robbery/shooting, Puff told Biggie to not engage with Pac and hopefully things would cool down. That distancing after the incident in Pac's eyes confirmed that they not only knew who was behind it but also may have assisted in helping the robbers know where Pac was going to be. Cease yelling down to Pac to come around the corner from the studio balcony didn't help with Pac's perspective either. I don't think Biggie or Bad Boy was involved and just wanted to avoid Jimmy and Jack (real gangsters) but it's understandable from Pac's view how they could've been involved.
@@steez5769 I think your bang on there mate. 👍🏻
New York is still like that
How many times are they going to talk about this on this channel?
False caeser : so if they were the actual mafia, I mean both sides, biggie would of been held responsible to say the very least if you know what I mean
He is making a lot “confirming/ convincing statements” it’s something Dr Phil mentioned on the JRE podcast when talking about jussie Smullet about when somebody is lying. He’s saying stuff like “ you know how it is In New York” etc. It’s a way to get somebody on your side to believe you. I have nothing against lil cease just something I picked up on.
Good points
That's not always the case though, you ever been accused of something you didn't do and trying to convince someone you didn't do it.
@@diezel44 he’s not being convicted of it here though. Normally most psychologists say that if a person is innocent they will actually be factual and potentially angry of being accused, they will not try to convince you by using confirming statements.
Ok Dr who 🙄
Come on With that hatian jack interview Glad !!!!!!
They probably didn't have nothing to do with that, but they knew it was gonna happen
He chose the easier target(BIG) because he had no smoke for Jimmy Henchmen.Listen to Against All Odds.Pac said it himself.He said, You said get my money right,I got my money right now I am ready for war..He knew who it was but he could not fuck with JH so, he chose a target that was easier and made more sense, musically and finacially.BIG/Bad Boy was on top at that time.Especially in NYC.Notice how Pac really blew up when he ran with that story.
lol this is revisionism.. Pac called out Jack and Jimmy while he was in jail
@@ZYaKnoe249 no he never STFU. your a fake pac groupie
Yup
Nobody gets tired of this story? Big didn’t set up Pac we all know this.
He’s talking about jimmy henchmen
Biggie warned poc about the dudes and he didn't listen.