What is the chance you will do the love is blind seasons from other countries? I know the Brazilian one is really popular. Would also be interesting if you did a ranking of dating shows or worst villains in the shows
Even if his baby mama is making some stuff up to an extent, we have video of him interacting with those kids!!! It may have been an arrangement but as soon as he claimed the kids didn’t known his face, he was an outright liar.
I wanted to see a clip of Charlie Kelly drunkenly saying "that's not how you treat your best...friend..." to Dennis. Love your videos, bro. I don't even watch these shows, but I watch all your videos : )
Hannah is straight up a bully. I got that energy immediately from her. It’s definitely from her insecurities, one second she is being cruel to Nick and the next second she is jealous someone thinks he’s attractive. Girly get some therapy pls 💀
Ramses being upset at Marissa for not wanting to have sex while with a cold and ON HER PERIOD? Insane. He should be stepping up as a partner at this time, not causing dissonance in their relationship :(
So I actually re-watched that situation and I think I actually understand what Ramses was trying to get at. (maybe the whole having sex during the sickness and etc was gross, and I completely agree!!! Totally wrong and not great behaviour) But I wonder if there was a situation in which Ramses is very physical touch and living, and sometimes Marissa is just wanting to be left alone and not have as much physical touch. I have seen this is marriages and relationships, especially if there is overstimulation on one side. Heck, even my marriage can get overstimulating for my husband, as he is not a physical touch kind of guy whereas I am. I have struggled with insecurity at the start, thinking I was being rejected. So I wonder if that's where the issue really lies.
@@NilahLach I think it's one thing to be a little bummed because you feel rejected and another to flat out say you're wondering if "this is a sign of things to come" like not wanting to be intimate while sick or on your period isn't a completely valid feeling. What a turn on lol.
Right?? Apparently he’s only openminded and progressive for certain world issues - but not when it comes to the woman he’s in a relationship with. Disappointing. I knew there’d be issues as soon as he wasn’t understanding of her not wanting to use birth control.
I feel terrible for Nick. He doesn’t have a lot of life experience but he is trying and is genuine in their relationship. Hannah could have easily walked away without being a villain but she berated him when she simply could have said they were in two different places in life.
Fantake was right, she thinks she's portraying him as the asshole in these conversations. She thinks people will watch and think she's a girlboss. I bet all of my money at the reunion she's going to be crying and playing victim
Yea not a lot of experience and hasn’t been hardened yet. He’s sweet and agreeable. Meanwhile she’s a cold bitch with TONS of experience and hardened by it. 🤡
When someone says they're trying, but there actually not shouldn't get a pass cause Hanna is belittling. One doesn't negate the other and just because he's more of a decent human than the majority of these lying man child dollar bin clearance dudes doesn't make him marriage material.
no one in this show does. they only have 10 days to connect and get engaged, and a month to get married, a decision that is too important to be decided in a month, wicht is why this show doesn't work
@@caiochaves6582I mean it has worked for other couples. Overall it’s pretty successful averaging at least one couple per season that’s still together even now (s2 was an outlier) which is pretty good for a reality dating show.
she went with him based on Astrology. Then it seems they were copulating more than conversating during those first few crucial days. now they are staring down the altar and just now finding out the real stuff. It's a classic case of having dessert before the main course. 😂
@@kimmi2662 I'm demisexual (which means I take an age to find people attractive and it's primarily on the basis of personality with looks being secondary - to the extent I can't find people I don't like remotely attractive) so I'm biased towards not understanding how anyone can have sex with someone they don't know deeply.... But I find it wild that they all launch so quickly into that without at least establishing if the person is for sure a good person. I genuinely don't know how people cope with finding out they're slept with an awful person and I wish people were more guarded with that.
Hannah needs to look up the term: vulnerable narcissist. Poor Nick, he’s immature but didn’t deserve this treatment. Hannah has been punishing that man since she stepped out of the POD was not attracted to him.
I agree that there is stuff he needs to work on and he acknowledges that but she is just constantly talking down to him. EVERYTHING is HIS fault and she can’t stand him doing anything. She’s always talking about being respectful and looking at things from her point of view but she refuses to do it herself 😑
@@taurus1647Literally. Cooking pasta and being good a finances are skills you can develop when you mature. Not everyone does, and their lack of presence isn’t necessarily a mark of immaturity so much as inexperience with certain things. Hannah, on the other hand, has all this supposedly maturing life experience and still fights like a malcontent five year old. Most of what Nick lacks he can absorb through 15 minute UA-cam videos. Hannah’s immaturity goes much deeper. Whatever childhood wounds made her this way have been left *completely* unaddressed. She’s either unwilling or incapable of doing the work required to be emotionally and socially mature. In fact, the more I think about it, the more I suspect she makes a big deal about these shallow “maturities” specifically because it masks her own innate lack of maturity. “*I* can’t be the immature one. I own stocks and cook pasta!”
@@EWall1498the thing about the pasta i never see anyone mention, is that he’s said multiple times he really enjoys cooking. i don’t think it’s really that he didn’t know how to cook pasta. i think at this point, we’ve all seen, how nitpicky and abrasive she is when he does things she doesn’t like/not in the exact way she would do them. it really came off to me that he wanted to keep checking he was doing it how she wanted to avoid getting berated, rather than literally not knowing how to boil water.
Nick was almost the best guy of the season 😂 didn't lie, didn't cheat, didn't push for sex, listened patiently to everything she had to say despite her condescending way, and Hannah lost a good guy. He lives with his parents but honestly i found that endearing. Like he has not had a ton of girls to his bachelor pad.
I feel like, maybe, that's part of the problem.. Hannah seems to be aware that Nick is actually a good catch! That's why she's jealous whenever someone says he's attractive.
You are spot on when it comes to Hannah she can be mature about household stuff bills etc but when it comes to actually being in a relationship she goes below the belt and will emotionally manipulate the person she is with
If even your own family thinks you are too rude, something is up. I hate when people are being rude and think this is just being straightforward. No, you can be straightforward without being discrespectful.
Hehe my little sisters boyfriends have asked before if she always freaks out or if it's a bad day. I let them know its all she knows. If you're terrible, your family will act it and say so 😂
@@cheery-hex it’s absolutely an accurate interpretation of what we are seeing. he’s a classic case of a misogynistic pig masquerading as a progressive, enlightened man.
@@cheery-hexit is absolutely a spot-on interpretation of what we as the audience are seeing. he is the quintessential miso.gynistic p.ig masquerading as a progressive, enlightened “modern man.”
If I were Nick, I would've broken down crying multiple times. He just gets berated and bullied by Hannah no matter what he says. I really don't think he deserved any of it.
I mean she constantly says I am super mature, and Nick is below me in every aspect. Her parents seem normal and humble so not sure how she got that inflated ego point. And she does not give off mature vibe at all. I think she confuses being mature with having decently paid job.
Latin American cultures are extremely misogynistic. Catholicism is also extremely misogynistic. Ramses only cares about progressivism when it has impacted him directly, ie US imperialism in Venezuela. He is not progressive at all when it infringes upon his personal wants and desires.
Honestly props to him for taking it all in stride, really spoke to his character. When he literally recalled that bullshit she wrote on that note in Mexico, I was like damn he’s a good listener 😂 You could tell he was actually trying
This woman Hannah is unemployed and only knows how to run her mouth and complain all day, waiting for her man to come home to boss him to walk her dog and take out the trash. She is indeed entirely wrong and she is abusive. She is the opposite of mature and ready. She is the classic immature person who thinks because she complains and berates others that she is smarter and more mature than them.
Yeah like if you bring a pet into a relationship it’s still your responsibility. Unless your partner loves your pet so much and wants to contribute equally.
@@Miaumiau175THANK YOU. My bf acts like I need to care for his dog like it’s my own. Doesn’t act appreciative when I pick up its poop or take it for walks. He acts like I’m expected to do these things. Like uh no buddy that’s your dog not mine
@@ac-jn1iq I also live with my boyfriend and I bought cats so it’s my responsibility to feed them, clean the litter and so on… he only does it when I’m not around
Hannah broke up with Nick because she was terrified of him rejecting her at the alter. She knew her insecurities and also being complete trash to him was catching up to her
Her lack of her attraction to him stems from her insecurities in herself. She doesn't want to feel big and tall, and so she projected those insecurities on Nick and believed he didn't find her attractive because of her own insecurities. @@yara-um6tx
Respect…what is more important big plate of food or mature conversation in respect of your relationship 🤔🤔🤔 Good for him, straight forward…he is done 👏
She went on love is blind then threw several weeks of tantrums punishing Nick for not being tall. She is not a smart girl and should not have ever been allowed on the show if surface level stuff is all she cares about.
Thank you for clocking Hannah for embellishing & making things a much bigger deal. If she met Katie in the pods, she can’t be her “best friend” - just chill. Honestly, she’s highly conflictual, domineering, overbearing and hypercritical… Nick definitely needs work but you can’t stab a man into change LOL. He’s actually quite chill and ready to change, if she’d been gentler and more ACTUALLY mature herself. You’re spot on that Hannah is projecting her own shit on to him - her delusion, her immaturity, her lack of respect, her ego issues, etc. UGH!!! Lastly Tyler saying he doesn’t think the kids know what he looks like when there are so many photos and videos of him with them going around is WILD. Absolutely unhinged. The reunion is gonna be interesting.
...that being said if she's as horrible off the show maybe she has a hard time keeping friends?! The show finishes about a year before airing so are the photos definitely taken before then?
Hannah has been embellishing the truth in her favour since the outset. She told the other girls at the first get together that the older duck riding lady called her a jealous bitch. Gurl pls! No one called u a bitch. U were being a bitch, spot the difference!
@@debbieparnell7582 yes, according to the kids’ mom Tyler cut off contact with the kids around filming last year, which devastated them as they did know him. All photos circulating are pre-LIB. Awful thing to do and then to lie about on tv for the kids to watch one day 😭
She is abusive.... imagine if I man kept a passive aggressive list of insults on his partner and left it around for her to find. Mocked her in front of friends, family etc. Said you were a girl I've made you a woman, and only ever said anything nice as part of a manipulation tactic along with a bunch of insults too.
@@debbieparnell7582If she were a man, she’d be one of the worst men on the show. There are guys on this show who have been absolutely loathed despite being one tenth as directly insulting as she was. By telling him he’s not an equal and he won’t be treated as such, she’s making the argument that she is *entitled to abuse him*. I’ve seen dudes get lambasted for saying just a few hurtful things. Imagine a guy who says twice as many hurtful things and then argues it’s his right to hurt his wife’s feelings because she doesn’t know how to cook.
@@EWall1498You are right! Some women do an over correction to misogyny and become exactly what we loath. There should be a term for it but I find it sooo much worse when women behave like horrible men. Sis you should know better. STOP
The worst thing Hannah could have done for her dating life is come on this show because now there is digital evidence forever of how she behaves and a clear warning to run to the hills
Some alpha males will feel challenged by it and think, "she won't do that to ME, cause I'm better 🙄". Especially now that she's Ozempic'd and surgeried herself.
Hannah seems like that mean girl in high school who never grew out of it. Her ego is so massive and fragile at the same time. Hopefully, she gets therapy for her insecurity and stops taking it out on other people like most bullys do.
I feel like not enough people comment on Tim's ego and fragile masculinity. From the beginning, Tim has judged Alex on every tiny thing and refused to try to see things from her perspective. When she didn't do something or say something exactly how he wanted her to, he flipped. That "man" doesn't want a partner, he wants a second dog.
@@grocraftym5871 Such a red flag!! Anyone in a lasting marriage knows that it’s all about give and take. Marriage is compromise built upon a mutual respect for one another, and even his own parents tried telling him that.
Thank you!!! How is no one seeing his dismissal of her?! He talks forever, interrupts her and is upset when she interrupts to CORRECT him since he runs on emotions and not facts
Just a reminder- being single is an option. It's kinda nice being able to do whatever you want, whenever you want, plan your future goals, handle your finances, and not feel pressured to do anything that you don't want to. Nobody criticizing you or monopolizing your time.
So at this point I think we can all agree the show has jumped the shark in that it has attracted people who just wanna be on TV and the initial premise of the show is no longer in play.
Honestly no, it's still around the same level of successful couples that it's had since the beginning afaik These people are less influencer-wannabes than a lot of other shows like Love Island imo
@Poeticfloetic To 'make' someone cry is a very common turn of phrase. Randomly trying to insult Alex in this specific comment thread also adds absolutely nothing to the actual discussion
It would be completely possible to build a show on deeper connections outside of appearance without pressuring them into an unnecessarily fast marriage. They check in on the couples after a year anyway... why not use some of that time scale? Why not at least set a wedding for the end of the year?! Plus for people who are used to shallow and superficial connections, there's a real danger of becoming obsessed with the first person they actually connect with. The show needs to tackle the danger of them mistaking the value of deep connection for the value of the person they spoke to.
@@debbieparnell7582 EXACTLY. Like at best they're still in the honeymoon phase. I feel like the only way to come out of this as winners is to agree to keep dating and see where things go
@@debbieparnell7582Because that’s not sensationalized TV. Honestly, these are ADULTS, they sign up knowing what it is and can break it off or say no at the alter. But arranged marriages are still a thing in some cultures and many of those work fine with people knowing far less about who they are marrying then these folks. With marriage being on the line, you also can’t really walk away from this show with a ‘for clout’ relationship. Of the people who DO get married on LiB the divorce rate is actually pretty low. The said ‘no’ at the alter rate is high, but the ones who did say yes…most of them are still married.
@@TheDawnofVanlife I can't agree with the narrative of people deserving something they couldn't have possibly fully anticipated simply for signing up. The relationships are often toxic and even in abusive territory. At least in the UK, we have a lot more safeguarding in place - especially after a few reality TV suicides.. considering things are already more sensationalised in America it's hard to believe that won't be an issue there. I don't enjoy watching suffering and cringe TV... - I want to see genuine relationships. It's a shame more people don't find good ethics entertaining enough.
I have felt bad for nick this whole time. She's so mean. I can't wait to see Tyler's baby mommas's tea. I hope Garrett and Taylor make it, and only them.
I used to want Garret and Taylor to make it BUT Taylor over blew the situation with his ex texting him. He answered that he’s engaged, big deal. Or if he liked an IG post. Taylor is ridiculous - get over the small stuff. I’m also not happy Taylor went on a DC dating show but wants G to leave his job, family and friends to move to San Diego. Taylor is over the top.
@@schuylercolley5920 same, i was so annoyed with her and was really hoping others have a similar opinion. Garrett seems as close to perfect as possible and Taylor just came across as very insecure
@@Leslie27275 She is insecure, but she's been cheated on before, and LIB is such a FAST process between getting to know someone and marrying them. It sounds like they were able to talk through it. I don't think Garrett did himself any favors by not being 100% honest about the text and how he answered. His answer was fine, so he shouldn't have felt the need to hide anything. I think there's hope for these two.
@@bloom4096 doesn’t matter. he chose her knowing that background. if he thinks it “sucks” and he has that big of an issue with it, he shouldn’t be with her.
Tim’s body language while Alex was talking to his parents was all I needed to see to know they were about to break up. They were not only on opposite ends of the couch, he was leaning as far away from her as possible, and the slight facial expressions he made when she was talking, idk… it screamed he was over it. And tbh, I believe he’s been over it since the fight in Mexico.
That's what I said to my husband while watching. He had that same far away look in his eyes when Alex met his parents, that he did when they were trying to make up in Cabo. Dude's been checked out since that big fight. He was so over her from that moment on...
Hannah pulling out the notebook and going over the same things wrong with Nick that she was nonstop talking about, to the point where he even finished saying the list was like my boss quizing me on what our company's core values are after doing training modules. Poor guy
@@ilyssago719 To be fair, I don’t think they expected twins but the point 100% stands if they can’t afford IUI with a donor (it’s at least cheaper than IVF), kids may not be a good idea.
I haven't gotten to that part of the show yet, so I don't know the whole conversation, but I honestly believe him. That whole process is super expensive and they probably wanted to save the money for the pregnancies and baby toys, clothes, etc. They also probably wanted the children to have similar features to him (possibly to match either of the mother's features?) That's just my thought, but I could be way wrong.
@@Aaron-kj8dv Hannah and her 'bob the builder' looking linebacker shoulders' shape 🤮 Seriously one of the worst physical matchups I have ever seen. She had more manly shoulders than Nick and definitely outweighed him a little in addition to having a bigger head than him. I just kept looking at them shaking my head 'no, it doesn't work.' I think if they had more of a mental/personality match like he did with Katie, the physicality issue actually probably wouldn't have even mattered or been quite as noticeable. Also, i kept getting the feeling that Hannah was laboring under some delusion of being some extremely attractive/hot shit type of female. She is/was attractive but I don't think she is as good looking as she thinks she is. Life is going to humble her on so many levels and it may be the best medecine for her to come down to the level of us mere mortals.
Karen-Hannah is truly sadistic, I don't think I've ever seen anyone who takes such pleasure in hurting their partner. She challenged him, belittled him, and bullied him and for what? So she could feel better about herself?.. what a nasty animal. I hope she will be embarrassed watching herself on tv, but the sociopath in her will probably be unable to take any form of accountability. Everyone is wrong accept her in her mind, how does this woman even have friends? She's insufferable!!
When he explained how he made the meal went shopping early for the groceries, cooked it, put it together, met with her family, AND clean the dishes!! That was probably his done button!!
SO TRUE! I just wrote a comment to point out she wasn't borderline abusive but abusive and painted the picture of what we'd think if a man did what she did.
There is definitely no justifying it at all. It's disgusting! Miss high and mighty is the delusional one thinking treating another person that way is right in any aspect 🤢
Ramses being this uncompromising about sex and supposedly needing it frequently no matter what makes it EXTREMELY likely there are still other women in the picture that he hasn’t cut off… like, what were you doing before meeting Marissa?
I hope that if one person really takes their depiction to heart its Hannah. This could be a real eye-opening experience for her on how she can come across and her treatment of others and just a chance for her to grow as a person. Or to double down, but hopefully she'll choose to grow even if it's uncomfy.
Well. All he had to do was tell her the truth as it was happening/right after I'm with her- I don't want to go through my partner's phone Ever. Once it gets to that point, the trust is gone
Hannah came on the show for clout. She's a bully. She's not mature just because she knows how to handle finances, clean and do laundry... The way Ramses acts about sex made my skin crawl.
Tim is disgusting. 2 days? 2 days before he did all that with her father? To he "never wants to see her again" over a nap? What he did to her father was nothing short of pure cruelness. That man knew damn well he wasn't all in when he did it.
So he’s obligated to stay with her just because he met her father and asked for her hand in marriage? It’s him and Alex choice to marry each other. Not based on their families
Instead of just sitting with the fact that she felt insecure and uncomfortable seeing Nick talking with Katie, she HAD to make it about him and something he did wrong. She can be so nasty and honestly, if she got a teaspoon of it back her ass would be crying.
It’s clear that Nick was not taught to do much of the tasks one would expect at his age, but it doesn’t mean he isn’t willing to learn or that he doesn’t have anything else of value to contribute to the relationship. It’s ok if Hannah doesn’t want to be with someone who doesn’t have certain skills and she’s free to move on, but she doesn’t have to keep telling him that he’s less than her. In some households everything was taken care of by the parents or servants and so I have friends who never learned basic adult skills. Sometimes people like that grow up to be entitled narcissists but other times, they just never had anyone teach them or expect that from them. There’s a difference
She likes to tear him town so she looks better. I think she's completely oblivious to her own flaws. He seems like he genuinely listen to what she says, and tries to do better.
The thing is I’m not sure that’s even true about Nick. I feel like Hannah has said it so much, and on the edit isn’t the best for him in that respect 😝, that that’s where my mind goes. Like take the pasta scene, look at Nick not knowing how to boil pasta, he doesn’t even know that pasta’s not in the refrigerator. Maybe that’s true, but it could also be that he was looking for fresh pasta which does get placed in the refrigerator? Maybe he uses one of those self boiling pots and isn’t sure how to boil pasta (or non refrigerated pasta?) in a regular pot? Maybe she’s so critical of him he finds it easier to just ask her for direction instead of wait for her to berate him? Like there’s tons of other explanations but my mind went straight to oh he doesn’t know how to do anything, he’s so coddled and I know it’s bc I hear Hannah in my head. He also knows how to do chores, the man vacuums more than I do. And mounting a tv is not a skill everyone needs to have! It doesn’t reflect poorly on you if you don’t know how to do it at first. Anyway someday I’ll rewatch his scenes and see if he’s really that immature or if it’s just Hannah’s voice in my head. 🧐
tbh i feel like she holds some resentment over anyone who didn't have to learn how to be 'capable' in her own eyes. She has no right to treat him the way she does, and needs to work all this out in therapy or something, but I can understand the frustration of being in a relationship with someone who had a better, less demanding upbringing. Getting immediately kicked out of your family home at 18 and told to fend for yourself and then finding out your partner still lives in Mom and Dad's mini-mansion and can't cook normal pasta would immediately make me feel iffy in the relationship, still no justification in her bullying.
Do we all remember that Hannah left her job to be on Love Is Blind? How mature!!😆 How can Katie be Hannah's "best friend in the whole world?" Didn't they meet each other on the show, a few weeks ago?
The way Hannah was pushing and pushing Nick to say out loud everything that is wrong with him as a person… it’s abusive, point blank. If you already know you’re going to leave someone, just walk away. There’s no excuse for the incessantly cruel berating.
I think nick just sitting there during their last conversation shows that he knows there’s no point in having a back and forth which shows a lot of maturity. Some people have an ego to be in the right no matter what like Hannah does.
Hannah gives the vibe of someone that would rather be right then make right. Like she goes into an argument with the goal of winning instead of finding resolution.
He likely just checks out when she's being like that. I've been in that situation and when you know someone is talking bs, it's easy to roll it off bc it's not real. He knows she's digging her own grave, speaking so nasty to him while he listens patiently lol
I had a friend that brought a notebook of reasons we couldn't be friends anymore, all of which were odd speculations and suppositions. I really really felt for him during that scene. OOOF.
Hear me out😂 I think having a note on why you don't wanna be with someone anymore is fine and valid, if you have trouble setting boundaries and cutting people off who don't treat you right, to remind yourself why that relationship is unhealthy. But showing the other person that list is crazy as hell
Hannah is upset that Nick’s parent took care of him and did not cut him off at 18 and expect him to fend for himself like her parents did. Her mother couldn’t even give her advice when they were talking. She’s so rude and verbally abusive. He didn’t struggle like she clearly did to get to where he is. Just because he doesn’t know certain things doesn’t mean he’s not willing to learn. She constantly berated him it was horrible to watch.
Naw i feel for alex. Its astronomically irritating to have someone be meh with you all day and then climb in bed and try to cuddle you when you're asleep. That dudes trash
Hanna is so delusional it hurts. She excuses her narcissistic behavior and not so nice remarks , yet blames Nick for not breathing like she wants lol . i hope he gets with Katie! Tim will be single for a while if this is how he handles relationships. Just out of pettiness i would refuse to give the sisters bracelet back 😃. He should go get it from the dad I can see why Ramses first mariage did not works; so his wife can't be pregnant , sick or not want to out out? great excuses to cheat Tyler said his kids don't know what he looks like 🥲🥲 that lie was unnecessary LIB should start with 2 weeks of therapy first, for all our sakes 😅😂 I'm tired
I don’t think Tim said first ever fiancé implying there would be a second. I think he was highlighting that he had never been engaged before and that she was special enough for him to propose. That said, he’s a jerk. His moment with Alex’s dad made me bawl my eyes out but his actions don’t match his words.
@mindyt5557 oh stop. Finding out your brand new fiance just Lied That Day about communication with his ex?? Who tf wouldn't be upset and confused over that.. Especially since they've been so solid until then People can show their emotions without it qualifying as a meltdown- she didn't freak out at the party, they discussed it afterwards and were fine. Tbh I feel like that situation was handled pretty perfectly for the issue at hand
Taylor shouldn't even be on the show. She should be on Love is Blind San Diego if that is where she wants to live. I don't understand these games about immediately uprooting a man from his friends and family to move across the country where he has no job or connections. It must be about control. I hope none of them get married and the show is cancelled after this season.
@emhu2594 what a strange, exaggerated point of view They clearly had discussed San Diego at length beforehand. He's a whole adult person- she's not forcing this move on him Tbh it sounds like you've got some issues with women and I truly hope you're able to receive help for that. In the meantime, probably take a break from watching these kinds of shows
Ok, so I think Hannah just likes to play the victim. Saying that everyone is manipulating her; I definitely think Leo was being manipulative, but Nick doesn't come off that way at all (in my opinion). She really needs to do some self-reflection. Even when she was trashing on him in front of her friends, they seemed to have the facial expression of "let the guy speak".
That's true. However the person doing this video isn't exactly pointing out how much nick doesn't do crap for the house and she deserves to be critical. The condescending shit is hypocritical. But he's not prize for marriage.
@hollyfabiani that's the point. She's being so rude and critical and just mean, when a lot of these things she already knew in the pods. Like him living with his parents, his mom cooking, etc Obviously that's not the ideal marriage partner for Most people, but she said yes knowing his situation. She's not approaching this with respect, actually wanting to learn and grow together- she's literally just bullying him
Nick asked 1 thing of Hannah - not to air their sexual relationship to the world. What does she do? Exactly the opposite. She is unbearable, horrible, and manipulative. She didn't honor this 1 wish of his, yet had a laundry list of issues with him. Yikes. Who cares if he's not experienced? Contrary to popular belief, not everyone wants someone who's been around town with everyone and their mother.
There is so much to say about Hannah and Nicks relationship... The fact she made him list his 'responsibilities'... Surely meeting someone with a job, a roof over his head and a solid, loving family are all positives..?? He has complete freedom.. Does she want a divorcee with 10 kids and debt? Wtf 😂
I think Tim was done with Alex after he met her father! He got up early, went shopping, made the food, put everything together, met with her father, AND then went home and washed the dishes!! That did it!! The dirty dishes!!
Ramses literally is one of the worst kinds of people. Thinks he can call himself progressive and have a funky haircut and that makes him an ally to women or something. Gross. I also applaud Nick for not ever clapping back at Hannah really. If someone was saying that crap to me, I’d lose my temper so fast 😂 he has the patience of a saint for real!!!
Also hearing some pushback from Tyler's friend that he donated his sperm to. Going to be an interesting reunion special!
“donated his sperm to” or something like that 😅
What is the chance you will do the love is blind seasons from other countries? I know the Brazilian one is really popular. Would also be interesting if you did a ranking of dating shows or worst villains in the shows
Even if his baby mama is making some stuff up to an extent, we have video of him interacting with those kids!!! It may have been an arrangement but as soon as he claimed the kids didn’t known his face, he was an outright liar.
@@ttchabzhabibi was so good too!
I wanted to see a clip of Charlie Kelly drunkenly saying "that's not how you treat your best...friend..." to Dennis. Love your videos, bro. I don't even watch these shows, but I watch all your videos : )
Ramses is that classic guy who talks a big game about being progressive but at the end of the day doesn't respect a "no" when it comes to sex.
As if the condom conversation was a big enough 🚩 🚩 🚩
He did his big one here!!
Yeah thats true, she is not better though with her political views
nice guy alert!!!
He’s a creep.
Hannah is straight up a bully. I got that energy immediately from her. It’s definitely from her insecurities, one second she is being cruel to Nick and the next second she is jealous someone thinks he’s attractive. Girly get some therapy pls 💀
Totally!
But in the pods she wasn't like this, was she?
💯💯💯
She's such a beyotch to him. My god.
Well said! She is just horrible and so insecure!
Her form of communication based on what we see is abusive. She could get therapy to discover where she learned that from in order to change.
Ramses being upset at Marissa for not wanting to have sex while with a cold and ON HER PERIOD? Insane. He should be stepping up as a partner at this time, not causing dissonance in their relationship :(
He’s a beta male
So I actually re-watched that situation and I think I actually understand what Ramses was trying to get at. (maybe the whole having sex during the sickness and etc was gross, and I completely agree!!! Totally wrong and not great behaviour)
But I wonder if there was a situation in which Ramses is very physical touch and living, and sometimes Marissa is just wanting to be left alone and not have as much physical touch. I have seen this is marriages and relationships, especially if there is overstimulation on one side. Heck, even my marriage can get overstimulating for my husband, as he is not a physical touch kind of guy whereas I am. I have struggled with insecurity at the start, thinking I was being rejected. So I wonder if that's where the issue really lies.
@NilahLach I see what you mean but that's a HORRIBLE time to bring it up.
@@NilahLach I think it's one thing to be a little bummed because you feel rejected and another to flat out say you're wondering if "this is a sign of things to come" like not wanting to be intimate while sick or on your period isn't a completely valid feeling. What a turn on lol.
Right?? Apparently he’s only openminded and progressive for certain world issues - but not when it comes to the woman he’s in a relationship with. Disappointing. I knew there’d be issues as soon as he wasn’t understanding of her not wanting to use birth control.
I feel terrible for Nick. He doesn’t have a lot of life experience but he is trying and is genuine in their relationship. Hannah could have easily walked away without being a villain but she berated him when she simply could have said they were in two different places in life.
Hannah gets off berating Nick.
Fantake was right, she thinks she's portraying him as the asshole in these conversations. She thinks people will watch and think she's a girlboss.
I bet all of my money at the reunion she's going to be crying and playing victim
Yea not a lot of experience and hasn’t been hardened yet. He’s sweet and agreeable. Meanwhile she’s a cold bitch with TONS of experience and hardened by it. 🤡
How many of these shows are we gonna see problematic sadistic whte girls before we stop worshiping them?
When someone says they're trying, but there actually not shouldn't get a pass cause Hanna is belittling. One doesn't negate the other and just because he's more of a decent human than the majority of these lying man child dollar bin clearance dudes doesn't make him marriage material.
"I'm saying all these mean things to you because I love you sooooo much" holy shit boy run run run 🚩🚩🚩
ARIANA RUN LMAO
And she says "yknow what I mean?" Lol
Agreed!!
Typical gaslighting behavior🙅🏻♀️
Woah, yeah this girl needs her world turned upside down in therapy ASAP
Ramses behavior around sex is a MAJOR red flag! It’s clear they didn’t know each other well enough before getting engaged
no one in this show does. they only have 10 days to connect and get engaged, and a month to get married, a decision that is too important to be decided in a month, wicht is why this show doesn't work
They had sex before getting to know each a little better
@@caiochaves6582I mean it has worked for other couples. Overall it’s pretty successful averaging at least one couple per season that’s still together even now (s2 was an outlier) which is pretty good for a reality dating show.
she went with him based on Astrology. Then it seems they were copulating more than conversating during those first few crucial days. now they are staring down the altar and just now finding out the real stuff. It's a classic case of having dessert before the main course. 😂
@@kimmi2662 I'm demisexual (which means I take an age to find people attractive and it's primarily on the basis of personality with looks being secondary - to the extent I can't find people I don't like remotely attractive) so I'm biased towards not understanding how anyone can have sex with someone they don't know deeply.... But I find it wild that they all launch so quickly into that without at least establishing if the person is for sure a good person. I genuinely don't know how people cope with finding out they're slept with an awful person and I wish people were more guarded with that.
Hannah needs to look up the term: vulnerable narcissist. Poor Nick, he’s immature but didn’t deserve this treatment. Hannah has been punishing that man since she stepped out of the POD was not attracted to him.
Nick is a useless bum. His parents did him no favors by enabling that.
He's more mature than she is....
I agree that there is stuff he needs to work on and he acknowledges that but she is just constantly talking down to him. EVERYTHING is HIS fault and she can’t stand him doing anything. She’s always talking about being respectful and looking at things from her point of view but she refuses to do it herself 😑
@@taurus1647Literally. Cooking pasta and being good a finances are skills you can develop when you mature. Not everyone does, and their lack of presence isn’t necessarily a mark of immaturity so much as inexperience with certain things. Hannah, on the other hand, has all this supposedly maturing life experience and still fights like a malcontent five year old.
Most of what Nick lacks he can absorb through 15 minute UA-cam videos. Hannah’s immaturity goes much deeper. Whatever childhood wounds made her this way have been left *completely* unaddressed. She’s either unwilling or incapable of doing the work required to be emotionally and socially mature.
In fact, the more I think about it, the more I suspect she makes a big deal about these shallow “maturities” specifically because it masks her own innate lack of maturity.
“*I* can’t be the immature one. I own stocks and cook pasta!”
@@EWall1498the thing about the pasta i never see anyone mention, is that he’s said multiple times he really enjoys cooking. i don’t think it’s really that he didn’t know how to cook pasta.
i think at this point, we’ve all seen, how nitpicky and abrasive she is when he does things she doesn’t like/not in the exact way she would do them. it really came off to me that he wanted to keep checking he was doing it how she wanted to avoid getting berated, rather than literally not knowing how to boil water.
Nick dodged a bullet. The projection is real with her. Wow.
Projection!!! 💯💯💯
I hope he gets with Katie
@@johnbishop7572he can't get with Katie. That's her best friend ever in the entire world!
@Aaron-kj8dv her jealousy and narcism is off the charts...run Nick
Hannah is a jerk
Nick was almost the best guy of the season 😂 didn't lie, didn't cheat, didn't push for sex, listened patiently to everything she had to say despite her condescending way, and Hannah lost a good guy. He lives with his parents but honestly i found that endearing. Like he has not had a ton of girls to his bachelor pad.
Agree I really like Nick too. this show usually has a bunch of overachievers. there's nothing wrong with where he's at at 28
I completely agree 🙌🏾🙌🏾
@@cheery-hex -overachievers- *liars😅. Like Tyler who's occupation has switched 4× so far.
@cheery-hex especially because housing is so expensive right now
I feel like, maybe, that's part of the problem.. Hannah seems to be aware that Nick is actually a good catch! That's why she's jealous whenever someone says he's attractive.
You are spot on when it comes to Hannah she can be mature about household stuff bills etc but when it comes to actually being in a relationship she goes below the belt and will emotionally manipulate the person she is with
Exactly. If a woman told me that they made me from a boy into a man, that’d be the end of it.
@@bobschnittman2856such a cringe thing to say
@@bobschnittman2856 Jesus is coming back. Repent pleease.
@@yara-um6tx Jesus is coming back. Repent pleease.
Yup Narcissists are exactly this way
If even your own family thinks you are too rude, something is up. I hate when people are being rude and think this is just being straightforward. No, you can be straightforward without being discrespectful.
Like the way Katie spoke with him.
Hehe my little sisters boyfriends have asked before if she always freaks out or if it's a bad day. I let them know its all she knows. If you're terrible, your family will act it and say so 😂
Ramses is such a disappointment - Acts progressive when it serves HIM but don’t sees women as equal human beings. Disgusting.
There's so many of these kinds of performative male feminists. They only pretend to be progressive only to get into women's pants.
Facts sadly there’s a lot of men like thu out there
wow are you sure you're interpreting objectively?
@@cheery-hex it’s absolutely an accurate interpretation of what we are seeing. he’s a classic case of a misogynistic pig masquerading as a progressive, enlightened man.
@@cheery-hexit is absolutely a spot-on interpretation of what we as the audience are seeing. he is the quintessential miso.gynistic p.ig masquerading as a progressive, enlightened “modern man.”
If I were Nick, I would've broken down crying multiple times. He just gets berated and bullied by Hannah no matter what he says. I really don't think he deserved any of it.
Same. Katie seems sweeter.
Hannah talks so much about maturity while having none of it. hilarious.
She's got some serious insecurities
I mean she constantly says I am super mature, and Nick is below me in every aspect. Her parents seem normal and humble so not sure how she got that inflated ego point. And she does not give off mature vibe at all. I think she confuses being mature with having decently paid job.
Shes only 2 years younger than me but sounds like 15 year old, honestly so cringe
@@yara-um6tx that’s exactly it, she does sound like a high schooler 😅
Claiming you’re mature is one of the biggest tell tale signs that you’re inmature
For Ramses to be as worldly as he tries to appear, he is somehow more misogynistic than any of the other men
facts.
Latin American cultures are extremely misogynistic. Catholicism is also extremely misogynistic. Ramses only cares about progressivism when it has impacted him directly, ie US imperialism in Venezuela. He is not progressive at all when it infringes upon his personal wants and desires.
He gives off "equality for all, but I'm more equal"
You can literally see it every time he speaks. He’s always searching for the correct therapy speak to weaponize
He's that type of guy who makes feminism and all that stuff ABOUT HIMSELF and how great he is for having those views😅
Hannah is the worst. She is a „i am not mean, i just speak the truth”. Someone being immature doesnt mean we need to disrespect them.
Agree.
The things he could have said to her… he was so respectful. He really could have popped off on her but he didn’t.
Nick is a champ. Sat there and listened while Hannah dug her own hole 🫡👏🏽 really smart way to expose someone
Nick should RUN
True it shows strength and maturity to not lash out back. He is a good man
He deserves better. He may be immature but Hannah is sooooo cruel for sure
You caught that too? Nick may be a little under developed but he's no dummy
Honestly props to him for taking it all in stride, really spoke to his character. When he literally recalled that bullshit she wrote on that note in Mexico, I was like damn he’s a good listener 😂 You could tell he was actually trying
This woman Hannah is unemployed and only knows how to run her mouth and complain all day, waiting for her man to come home to boss him to walk her dog and take out the trash. She is indeed entirely wrong and she is abusive. She is the opposite of mature and ready. She is the classic immature person who thinks because she complains and berates others that she is smarter and more mature than them.
She's the kind of woman who'd be a boy mom and put all her insecurities on her daughter.
She's a Karen in the making once pretty privilege disappears further
Yeah like if you bring a pet into a relationship it’s still your responsibility. Unless your partner loves your pet so much and wants to contribute equally.
@@Miaumiau175THANK YOU. My bf acts like I need to care for his dog like it’s my own. Doesn’t act appreciative when I pick up its poop or take it for walks. He acts like I’m expected to do these things. Like uh no buddy that’s your dog not mine
@@ac-jn1iq I also live with my boyfriend and I bought cats so it’s my responsibility to feed them, clean the litter and so on… he only does it when I’m not around
Hannah broke up with Nick because she was terrified of him rejecting her at the alter. She knew her insecurities and also being complete trash to him was catching up to her
Sooooo true wow
They break up? Oh thank God! He's better off without her.
*Altar
Nah she’s just not physically attracted to him, which is why she’s so mean to him. If she was attracted to him, she’d have respect for him
Her lack of her attraction to him stems from her insecurities in herself. She doesn't want to feel big and tall, and so she projected those insecurities on Nick and believed he didn't find her attractive because of her own insecurities. @@yara-um6tx
Honestly big respect to Alex for prioritizing sleep. And for still enjoying her dinner during the breakup
Cor-rect. Homegirl said, "now what we're not going to do is heat up these fries a second time." 😄
No respect for that nasty-ass apartment.
Tim looked like he wanted her to cry hence he went below the belt, I was so happy when she didnt, moron.
Respect…what is more important big plate of food or mature conversation in respect of your relationship 🤔🤔🤔 Good for him, straight forward…he is done 👏
@@krassiablehe sucked
It isn't a shade of grey. Hannah is not mature. Being good at household chores and understanding stocks does not equal maturity.
She went on love is blind then threw several weeks of tantrums punishing Nick for not being tall. She is not a smart girl and should not have ever been allowed on the show if surface level stuff is all she cares about.
Ashley telling Taylor that Gareth omission of the fact that he text back is a lie had me gasping. I wish she had that energy for Tyler.
Big deal that Garrett texted his ex back that he’s engaged. Or if he liked an IG post it’s really NO BIG DEAL
Honestly, it might be BECAUSE of her situation with Tyler why she feels so strongly about it
It did feel like she was projecting 😅
Thank you for clocking Hannah for embellishing & making things a much bigger deal. If she met Katie in the pods, she can’t be her “best friend” - just chill. Honestly, she’s highly conflictual, domineering, overbearing and hypercritical… Nick definitely needs work but you can’t stab a man into change LOL. He’s actually quite chill and ready to change, if she’d been gentler and more ACTUALLY mature herself. You’re spot on that Hannah is projecting her own shit on to him - her delusion, her immaturity, her lack of respect, her ego issues, etc. UGH!!!
Lastly Tyler saying he doesn’t think the kids know what he looks like when there are so many photos and videos of him with them going around is WILD. Absolutely unhinged. The reunion is gonna be interesting.
Nick would actually be very easy to work with for someone willing to communicate with kindess. He is willing and ready to grow.
...that being said if she's as horrible off the show maybe she has a hard time keeping friends?! The show finishes about a year before airing so are the photos definitely taken before then?
Hannah has been embellishing the truth in her favour since the outset. She told the other girls at the first get together that the older duck riding lady called her a jealous bitch. Gurl pls! No one called u a bitch. U were being a bitch, spot the difference!
No, actually Hannah says she's mature all the time so dang it she's mature
@@debbieparnell7582 yes, according to the kids’ mom Tyler cut off contact with the kids around filming last year, which devastated them as they did know him. All photos circulating are pre-LIB. Awful thing to do and then to lie about on tv for the kids to watch one day 😭
It was so uncomfortable watching Hannah berate Nick.She was borderline abusive.
She is abusive.... imagine if I man kept a passive aggressive list of insults on his partner and left it around for her to find. Mocked her in front of friends, family etc. Said you were a girl I've made you a woman, and only ever said anything nice as part of a manipulation tactic along with a bunch of insults too.
@@debbieparnell7582If she were a man, she’d be one of the worst men on the show. There are guys on this show who have been absolutely loathed despite being one tenth as directly insulting as she was.
By telling him he’s not an equal and he won’t be treated as such, she’s making the argument that she is *entitled to abuse him*. I’ve seen dudes get lambasted for saying just a few hurtful things. Imagine a guy who says twice as many hurtful things and then argues it’s his right to hurt his wife’s feelings because she doesn’t know how to cook.
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@@EWall1498You are right! Some women do an over correction to misogyny and become exactly what we loath. There should be a term for it but I find it sooo much worse when women behave like horrible men. Sis you should know better. STOP
@@EWall1498 exactly!
The worst thing Hannah could have done for her dating life is come on this show because now there is digital evidence forever of how she behaves and a clear warning to run to the hills
Some alpha males will feel challenged by it and think, "she won't do that to ME, cause I'm better 🙄". Especially now that she's Ozempic'd and surgeried herself.
Hannah seems like that mean girl in high school who never grew out of it. Her ego is so massive and fragile at the same time. Hopefully, she gets therapy for her insecurity and stops taking it out on other people like most bullys do.
No wonder Ramses is divorced. Marissa run 🏃♀️➡️
I feel like not enough people comment on Tim's ego and fragile masculinity. From the beginning, Tim has judged Alex on every tiny thing and refused to try to see things from her perspective. When she didn't do something or say something exactly how he wanted her to, he flipped. That "man" doesn't want a partner, he wants a second dog.
You could tell that at the beggining when he said that nothing bothers him and she can try to convince him to do something but nothing will work.
@@grocraftym5871 Such a red flag!! Anyone in a lasting marriage knows that it’s all about give and take. Marriage is compromise built upon a mutual respect for one another, and even his own parents tried telling him that.
I knew he was bad when he bought the shirt that his ex didn't like just to spite her, and then bragged about it on tv. Yikes
Thank you!!! How is no one seeing his dismissal of her?! He talks forever, interrupts her and is upset when she interrupts to CORRECT him since he runs on emotions and not facts
She’s lazy. Messy. Not wife material. Once he saw her apartment he knew it was over
Hannah calling Nick immature is so ironic considering she left a note of several “concerns” rather than just talking to him
He is immature though.
@@hollyfabiani never said he wasn’t?
Birds lack comprehension. And they always deflect. Just like Hannah. I understood your point clearly 💯 @@gateor8
@@gateor8 I'm a woman, and I agree with you. I know the term gets thrown around a lot these days, but I genuinely think she's a narcissist.
@@mitsukai7192 She is not a narcissist, she just has a below average EQ.
Just a reminder- being single is an option. It's kinda nice being able to do whatever you want, whenever you want, plan your future goals, handle your finances, and not feel pressured to do anything that you don't want to. Nobody criticizing you or monopolizing your time.
THIS. 👏🏼
Absolutely ❤
As a married person….. this is all so true! You only have to answer to you. No worries about anyone’s past.
Enjoy it!
@dinaboop who needs a reminder of that though 😶 these people are all ~30 years old lol
So at this point I think we can all agree the show has jumped the shark in that it has attracted people who just wanna be on TV and the initial premise of the show is no longer in play.
💯💯
It feels gross and disgusting and honestly unwatchable.
Which I’m totally fine with because I never watch these for the romance anyway 😂
Honestly no, it's still around the same level of successful couples that it's had since the beginning afaik
These people are less influencer-wannabes than a lot of other shows like Love Island imo
Omg. Hannah is gonna be 50 year old wine aunt wondering why no one wants to date her.
😂
No she'll be on Facebook talking shit about men and getting likes from equally pathetic wine aunts
She don’t know love
Ramses sucks. He’s fake af.
I will never forgive Tim for making Alex's dad cry and actually believe he was genuine🙄
He didnt make her father cry. Lol. He is not a tear duct. Its not avout the dad. Alex comes across as vapid and lazy.
@Poeticfloetic if that was the case, he could have ended it BEFORE meeting her dad.
@Poeticfloetic To 'make' someone cry is a very common turn of phrase.
Randomly trying to insult Alex in this specific comment thread also adds absolutely nothing to the actual discussion
It’s almost like people shouldn’t get married when they’ve only known each other for two seconds
It would be completely possible to build a show on deeper connections outside of appearance without pressuring them into an unnecessarily fast marriage. They check in on the couples after a year anyway... why not use some of that time scale? Why not at least set a wedding for the end of the year?! Plus for people who are used to shallow and superficial connections, there's a real danger of becoming obsessed with the first person they actually connect with. The show needs to tackle the danger of them mistaking the value of deep connection for the value of the person they spoke to.
@@debbieparnell7582 EXACTLY. Like at best they're still in the honeymoon phase. I feel like the only way to come out of this as winners is to agree to keep dating and see where things go
@@debbieparnell7582Because that’s not sensationalized TV. Honestly, these are ADULTS, they sign up knowing what it is and can break it off or say no at the alter. But arranged marriages are still a thing in some cultures and many of those work fine with people knowing far less about who they are marrying then these folks. With marriage being on the line, you also can’t really walk away from this show with a ‘for clout’ relationship. Of the people who DO get married on LiB the divorce rate is actually pretty low. The said ‘no’ at the alter rate is high, but the ones who did say yes…most of them are still married.
How many of these shows are we gonna see problematic sadistic whte girls before we stop worshiping them?
@@TheDawnofVanlife I can't agree with the narrative of people deserving something they couldn't have possibly fully anticipated simply for signing up. The relationships are often toxic and even in abusive territory. At least in the UK, we have a lot more safeguarding in place - especially after a few reality TV suicides.. considering things are already more sensationalised in America it's hard to believe that won't be an issue there. I don't enjoy watching suffering and cringe TV... - I want to see genuine relationships. It's a shame more people don't find good ethics entertaining enough.
“She’s the worst🎶” 😂😂 I can’t stand one more second of this woman. Run Nick!!
Hannah is verbally abusive, you don't need to belittle to get your point across
How many of these shows are we gonna see problematic sadistic whte girls before we stop worshiping them?
I have felt bad for nick this whole time. She's so mean.
I can't wait to see Tyler's baby mommas's tea.
I hope Garrett and Taylor make it, and only them.
I used to want Garret and Taylor to make it BUT Taylor over blew the situation with his ex texting him. He answered that he’s engaged, big deal. Or if he liked an IG post. Taylor is ridiculous - get over the small stuff. I’m also not happy Taylor went on a DC dating show but wants G to leave his job, family and friends to move to San Diego. Taylor is over the top.
@@Leslie27275the very reason I'm even here is because of everything u said lol, I'm literally watching it right now but paused 2 get a consensus 😅
@@schuylercolley5920 same, i was so annoyed with her and was really hoping others have a similar opinion. Garrett seems as close to perfect as possible and Taylor just came across as very insecure
@@Leslie27275 She is insecure, but she's been cheated on before, and LIB is such a FAST process between getting to know someone and marrying them. It sounds like they were able to talk through it. I don't think Garrett did himself any favors by not being 100% honest about the text and how he answered. His answer was fine, so he shouldn't have felt the need to hide anything. I think there's hope for these two.
marissa run. he doesnt like your past career.
doesn't respect you.
and i know your friends are already iffy on him.
👏 spot on
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Her past career literally sucks.
@@bloom4096 doesn’t matter. he chose her knowing that background. if he thinks it “sucks” and he has that big of an issue with it, he shouldn’t be with her.
@@bloom4096 why? She was a sailor on a ship. His cia rant has nothing to do with her career
Hannah isn't even working so why is she talking crap about nick
Right, she tries to make herself feel superior any way she can. I hope Nick is doing better
Tim’s body language while Alex was talking to his parents was all I needed to see to know they were about to break up. They were not only on opposite ends of the couch, he was leaning as far away from her as possible, and the slight facial expressions he made when she was talking, idk… it screamed he was over it. And tbh, I believe he’s been over it since the fight in Mexico.
That's what I said to my husband while watching. He had that same far away look in his eyes when Alex met his parents, that he did when they were trying to make up in Cabo. Dude's been checked out since that big fight. He was so over her from that moment on...
Hannah pulling out the notebook and going over the same things wrong with Nick that she was nonstop talking about, to the point where he even finished saying the list was like my boss quizing me on what our company's core values are after doing training modules. Poor guy
They “couldn’t afford” a sperm donor but financially supporting 3 kids was not a concern? Sure, Tyler.
Yeah it’s weird. He’s hiding smth
Sound like an excuse to have a threesome to me😅
@@ilyssago719 To be fair, I don’t think they expected twins but the point 100% stands if they can’t afford IUI with a donor (it’s at least cheaper than IVF), kids may not be a good idea.
I haven't gotten to that part of the show yet, so I don't know the whole conversation, but I honestly believe him. That whole process is super expensive and they probably wanted to save the money for the pregnancies and baby toys, clothes, etc. They also probably wanted the children to have similar features to him (possibly to match either of the mother's features?)
That's just my thought, but I could be way wrong.
Same thing I said. I would think a sperm donor is cheaper than 3 children.
The lies😤
Nick is like the person I didn't expect to like, but turned out to be really sweet.
I sincerely and eagerly hope that Hannah sees this and understand her problem!
Yes the way she treated Nick was so unfair. Altho these shows are so messy it really gives an opportunity to grow from the vulnerability
It would be nice, but know she won't.
She's going to come on the reunion show, play the victim, cry, then get let off the hook
@@Aaron-kj8dv yeah like Catherine
These types dont get it and never will
Narcissistic people rarely do
Truth of the matter is Katie spoke life into Nick on a way Hanna could never 🙂↕️ I actually hope they connected
She was so nice and was so happy to just have a conversation with him, not to mention the upgrade in looks
I enjoyed that conversation so much… I didn’t expect it to go the way it did.
Nick isn’t ready for a relationship, especially one with someone like Katie. If he grows up a bit, I think someday he could make a great partner.
@@Aaron-kj8dv Hannah and her 'bob the builder' looking linebacker shoulders' shape 🤮 Seriously one of the worst physical matchups I have ever seen. She had more manly shoulders than Nick and definitely outweighed him a little in addition to having a bigger head than him. I just kept looking at them shaking my head 'no, it doesn't work.' I think if they had more of a mental/personality match like he did with Katie, the physicality issue actually probably wouldn't have even mattered or been quite as noticeable. Also, i kept getting the feeling that Hannah was laboring under some delusion of being some extremely attractive/hot shit type of female. She is/was attractive but I don't think she is as good looking as she thinks she is. Life is going to humble her on so many levels and it may be the best medecine for her to come down to the level of us mere mortals.
@@lane6216 Exactly. Let’s not forget Katie broke up with Nick for literally this same reason: maturity.
Confused me how Hannah kept referring to Katie as best friend....like really? How long were you in the pods together?
Well, if she treats everyone the way she treats Nick, it makes sense that her best friend in the whole wide world would be someone she just met.
I actually thought they were already friends before the show
This! I'm like huh best friends... Did they know each other from before ? Cause of not that's so odd
@@mcp0y3Obviously not or it would have come out.
@@whitneydanielle8882yep then next week she'll have a new best (only) friend
Karen-Hannah is truly sadistic, I don't think I've ever seen anyone who takes such pleasure in hurting their partner. She challenged him, belittled him, and bullied him and for what? So she could feel better about herself?.. what a nasty animal. I hope she will be embarrassed watching herself on tv, but the sociopath in her will probably be unable to take any form of accountability. Everyone is wrong accept her in her mind, how does this woman even have friends? She's insufferable!!
Tim broke up with Alex when he saw her messy apartment. She just didn't know it yet because her mind is clutter 😂
When he explained how he made the meal went shopping early for the groceries, cooked it, put it together, met with her family, AND clean the dishes!! That was probably his done button!!
@@amylege5470yup. He saw that he would be doing all the cooking and cleaning for the rest of his life and said nope
😂😂
Way to go shaming someone for something they clearly struggle with, ya b*tch. I hope you don’t have kids.
all she does is eat and sleep
I know it’s been said but if a man spoke to a woman the way Hannah speaks to Nick there would be no justifying it. It’s very hard to watch.
SO TRUE! I just wrote a comment to point out she wasn't borderline abusive but abusive and painted the picture of what we'd think if a man did what she did.
There is definitely no justifying it at all. It's disgusting! Miss high and mighty is the delusional one thinking treating another person that way is right in any aspect 🤢
Ramses being this uncompromising about sex and supposedly needing it frequently no matter what makes it EXTREMELY likely there are still other women in the picture that he hasn’t cut off… like, what were you doing before meeting Marissa?
It's also pretty rapey. Coercive sex is rape. Making a woman think he'll end the relationship if they don't put out is not consent.
Fr. And come to find out after a while into the episode she had to do something just to “satisfy” his “worries” even though she was dead*as sick 🤢
We'll find a picture of Hannah in a dictionary under EMBELLISHMENT and PROJECTION
She’s honestly not as mature as she thinks she is 😭
And DELULU 😂
and under being a 4 and thinking you are a 10
@@humletfred9767 lol literally.
@humletfred9767 speaking of immature 🙄
Insulting someone's looks is the laziest way to criticize someone's Actual problematic behaviors
I hope that if one person really takes their depiction to heart its Hannah. This could be a real eye-opening experience for her on how she can come across and her treatment of others and just a chance for her to grow as a person. Or to double down, but hopefully she'll choose to grow even if it's uncomfy.
She makes Chelsea look real good right about now.
Hannah is emotionally abusive
Yes
Garret handled that text situations like an absolute moron. All he had to do was show her the message and the issue would’ve been put to rest.
Well. All he had to do was tell her the truth as it was happening/right after
I'm with her- I don't want to go through my partner's phone Ever. Once it gets to that point, the trust is gone
Hannah came on the show for clout. She's a bully. She's not mature just because she knows how to handle finances, clean and do laundry...
The way Ramses acts about sex made my skin crawl.
Ramses is the exact reason why women say marriage is a trap. I’d rather be single than be married to anyone who has Ramses’s views
Hannah wants Nick to change, while she apparently is perfect?? Grow up, Hannah!!
Tim is disgusting. 2 days? 2 days before he did all that with her father? To he "never wants to see her again" over a nap?
What he did to her father was nothing short of pure cruelness. That man knew damn well he wasn't all in when he did it.
realistically speaking, he might've been checked out long before the meeting of the dad. it's just a huge shame on Tim's side.
@@fwmnazyup when he saw the apartment, cooked, and did all the cleaning !
So he’s obligated to stay with her just because he met her father and asked for her hand in marriage? It’s him and Alex choice to marry each other. Not based on their families
@@bosstalksports4916read the comment again… slow this time.
@@zaneleleeuo1876Take your own advice condescending woman.
I'm already mad knowing Vanessa is gonna grill Nick and let Hannah off the hook. I really hope Nick got with Katie
Nooooo. I will boycott if Vanessa does that
Her habit, she better not or she will be dragged.
She's soooo disturbed that women can do no wrong in her world. She makes me sick, and I know her husband has many sides B.
Instead of just sitting with the fact that she felt insecure and uncomfortable seeing Nick talking with Katie, she HAD to make it about him and something he did wrong. She can be so nasty and honestly, if she got a teaspoon of it back her ass would be crying.
Even her own brother/friend idk what he was but he said it too!
@@wendyvqzh658 Brother!
@@wendyvqzh658 ... if he stayed with her I was willing him to have an affair with the brother!
tbh I hope someone tells her she's not hot enough to be such a bitch
@@wendyvqzh658 Brother! I hope she reflects on the fact that her own family said she can flat out be mean at times.
If you have to continually convince other people how mature you are, sweetie…. Lol
You couldn't pay me enough to be married to Hannah.
😂 love this comment thank you 🙏
Tyler saying that the kids don't know how he looks like had me rolling 🤣.
It’s clear that Nick was not taught to do much of the tasks one would expect at his age, but it doesn’t mean he isn’t willing to learn or that he doesn’t have anything else of value to contribute to the relationship. It’s ok if Hannah doesn’t want to be with someone who doesn’t have certain skills and she’s free to move on, but she doesn’t have to keep telling him that he’s less than her. In some households everything was taken care of by the parents or servants and so I have friends who never learned basic adult skills. Sometimes people like that grow up to be entitled narcissists but other times, they just never had anyone teach them or expect that from them. There’s a difference
She likes to tear him town so she looks better. I think she's completely oblivious to her own flaws. He seems like he genuinely listen to what she says, and tries to do better.
Then he shouldn’t be on a show to find a wife. He should be on UA-cam learning how to do household work.
The thing is I’m not sure that’s even true about Nick. I feel like Hannah has said it so much, and on the edit isn’t the best for him in that respect 😝, that that’s where my mind goes. Like take the pasta scene, look at Nick not knowing how to boil pasta, he doesn’t even know that pasta’s not in the refrigerator. Maybe that’s true, but it could also be that he was looking for fresh pasta which does get placed in the refrigerator? Maybe he uses one of those self boiling pots and isn’t sure how to boil pasta (or non refrigerated pasta?) in a regular pot? Maybe she’s so critical of him he finds it easier to just ask her for direction instead of wait for her to berate him? Like there’s tons of other explanations but my mind went straight to oh he doesn’t know how to do anything, he’s so coddled and I know it’s bc I hear Hannah in my head. He also knows how to do chores, the man vacuums more than I do. And mounting a tv is not a skill everyone needs to have! It doesn’t reflect poorly on you if you don’t know how to do it at first. Anyway someday I’ll rewatch his scenes and see if he’s really that immature or if it’s just Hannah’s voice in my head. 🧐
tbh i feel like she holds some resentment over anyone who didn't have to learn how to be 'capable' in her own eyes. She has no right to treat him the way she does, and needs to work all this out in therapy or something, but I can understand the frustration of being in a relationship with someone who had a better, less demanding upbringing. Getting immediately kicked out of your family home at 18 and told to fend for yourself and then finding out your partner still lives in Mom and Dad's mini-mansion and can't cook normal pasta would immediately make me feel iffy in the relationship, still no justification in her bullying.
@@mmem4264 That’s a good point. I have been taking Hannah’s version about his abilities.
Do we all remember that Hannah left her job to be on Love Is Blind? How mature!!😆 How can Katie be Hannah's "best friend in the whole world?" Didn't they meet each other on the show, a few weeks ago?
Hannah is ridiculous talking about how she has to guard her fiance's feelings yet she's airs their dirty laundry on national TV???
The way Hannah was pushing and pushing Nick to say out loud everything that is wrong with him as a person… it’s abusive, point blank. If you already know you’re going to leave someone, just walk away. There’s no excuse for the incessantly cruel berating.
I think nick just sitting there during their last conversation shows that he knows there’s no point in having a back and forth which shows a lot of maturity. Some people have an ego to be in the right no matter what like Hannah does.
Grey rock
Hannah gives the vibe of someone that would rather be right then make right. Like she goes into an argument with the goal of winning instead of finding resolution.
*than
I dont know how Nick hasnt cried yet
He probably has, off camera. That thought makes me sad. Like yes, he has some growing up to do but he doesn't deserve straight-up abuse!
He likely just checks out when she's being like that.
I've been in that situation and when you know someone is talking bs, it's easy to roll it off bc it's not real. He knows she's digging her own grave, speaking so nasty to him while he listens patiently lol
The shift of the eye before the lie knowing he got 3 whole kids but just wiped them from the book is wild!
Anywho can't wait till the reunion!
And to think Hannah was so worried about being judged for her looks instead of her personality, yikes.
I had a friend that brought a notebook of reasons we couldn't be friends anymore, all of which were odd speculations and suppositions. I really really felt for him during that scene. OOOF.
Sorry you went through that. That person is heartless and bonkers, as painful as it is it's a blessing in disguise for the trash to take itself out.
That's psycho behavior actually
Hear me out😂 I think having a note on why you don't wanna be with someone anymore is fine and valid, if you have trouble setting boundaries and cutting people off who don't treat you right, to remind yourself why that relationship is unhealthy.
But showing the other person that list is crazy as hell
Wow 😬 yikes
Hannah is upset that Nick’s parent took care of him and did not cut him off at 18 and expect him to fend for himself like her parents did. Her mother couldn’t even give her advice when they were talking. She’s so rude and verbally abusive. He didn’t struggle like she clearly did to get to where he is. Just because he doesn’t know certain things doesn’t mean he’s not willing to learn. She constantly berated him it was horrible to watch.
The glee with which Hannah dresses down Nick is revealing, and not in the way she thinks it is 🤷♀️
Naw i feel for alex. Its astronomically irritating to have someone be meh with you all day and then climb in bed and try to cuddle you when you're asleep. That dudes trash
I just want to give Nick a hug 🥹 Hannah was so abusive towards him and it was very difficult to watch. Poor guy…🙁
Nick run, don't walk!
"Oh, Nick's angry now. He's entered bet mode." GOT ME 💀💀💀
I do not want a wife who takes naps!! 🤣🤣🤣
lmaoooo when you say it like that, it's so much funnier and much more trivial 😂
I want to know what's going on behind the scenes. Where is that.
“Oh nicks angry now he’s entered bet mode”
Lmao
Anyone else screaming at the tv “Nick RUN don’t look back dodge that bullet.”
I was so worried when Marissa came out of the bathroom that they were pregnant and she was going to be stuck dealing with that man.
Me too I actually paused the episode for a good minute to take a deep breath 😂😅 glad we were wrong, for now
Omg smh the way Hannah kept saying “I love you” then immediately proceeds to bully and condescend him….
Hanna is so delusional it hurts. She excuses her narcissistic behavior and not so nice remarks , yet blames Nick for not breathing like she wants lol . i hope he gets with Katie!
Tim will be single for a while if this is how he handles relationships. Just out of pettiness i would refuse to give the sisters bracelet back 😃. He should go get it from the dad
I can see why Ramses first mariage did not works; so his wife can't be pregnant , sick or not want to out out? great excuses to cheat
Tyler said his kids don't know what he looks like 🥲🥲 that lie was unnecessary
LIB should start with 2 weeks of therapy first, for all our sakes 😅😂 I'm tired
I don’t think Tim said first ever fiancé implying there would be a second. I think he was highlighting that he had never been engaged before and that she was special enough for him to propose. That said, he’s a jerk. His moment with Alex’s dad made me bawl my eyes out but his actions don’t match his words.
Ok thank you! I usually agree with BF's opinions but that is Not how I read Tim's response at all
Ain’t no one getting married this season.
None of them should. After that meltdown that Taylor displayed over something so trivial, I question her mibdset and see a life of drama with her.
They all need therapy, some of them should be hospitalized, and some of them should be in jail.
@@emhu2594😂😂😂
@@emhu2594the way you're actually not wrong 😂😂
@mindyt5557 oh stop. Finding out your brand new fiance just Lied That Day about communication with his ex?? Who tf wouldn't be upset and confused over that.. Especially since they've been so solid until then
People can show their emotions without it qualifying as a meltdown- she didn't freak out at the party, they discussed it afterwards and were fine. Tbh I feel like that situation was handled pretty perfectly for the issue at hand
I feel bad for Taylor. Hearing that your partner omitted info after being cheated on by a previous partner would be really triggering.
She over reacted. She's a drama queen. Good luck Garrett
I think she needs to heal from it first, before getting into a marriage. And I love both of them and want them to be happy together.
Taylor shouldn't even be on the show. She should be on Love is Blind San Diego if that is where she wants to live. I don't understand these games about immediately uprooting a man from his friends and family to move across the country where he has no job or connections. It must be about control. I hope none of them get married and the show is cancelled after this season.
@emhu2594 what a strange, exaggerated point of view
They clearly had discussed San Diego at length beforehand. He's a whole adult person- she's not forcing this move on him
Tbh it sounds like you've got some issues with women and I truly hope you're able to receive help for that. In the meantime, probably take a break from watching these kinds of shows
Ok, so I think Hannah just likes to play the victim. Saying that everyone is manipulating her; I definitely think Leo was being manipulative, but Nick doesn't come off that way at all (in my opinion). She really needs to do some self-reflection. Even when she was trashing on him in front of her friends, they seemed to have the facial expression of "let the guy speak".
That's true. However the person doing this video isn't exactly pointing out how much nick doesn't do crap for the house and she deserves to be critical. The condescending shit is hypocritical. But he's not prize for marriage.
@hollyfabiani that's the point. She's being so rude and critical and just mean, when a lot of these things she already knew in the pods. Like him living with his parents, his mom cooking, etc
Obviously that's not the ideal marriage partner for Most people, but she said yes knowing his situation. She's not approaching this with respect, actually wanting to learn and grow together- she's literally just bullying him
Nick asked 1 thing of Hannah - not to air their sexual relationship to the world. What does she do? Exactly the opposite. She is unbearable, horrible, and manipulative. She didn't honor this 1 wish of his, yet had a laundry list of issues with him. Yikes. Who cares if he's not experienced? Contrary to popular belief, not everyone wants someone who's been around town with everyone and their mother.
Tim reminds me of Kenneth. "I DID make an effort to be more affectionate! When you were asleep! Don't you remember?!" 😂
hannah is so freaking cruel for no reason
Hannah knew Nick will say no to her on wedding day so she did it before he had a chance. Pure narcissist
There is so much to say about Hannah and Nicks relationship... The fact she made him list his 'responsibilities'... Surely meeting someone with a job, a roof over his head and a solid, loving family are all positives..?? He has complete freedom.. Does she want a divorcee with 10 kids and debt? Wtf 😂
I felt bad for nick he wanted to get married but he dodged a bullet. He better off without hannah she insufferable and toxic.
Ramses says "like" every other word! I fast forward when he talks
Girl it is So Bad!
He's got a Lot to work on. But I do hope his grammar/speech is on the list somewhere
I think Tim was done with Alex after he met her father! He got up early, went shopping, made the food, put everything together, met with her father, AND then went home and washed the dishes!! That did it!! The dirty dishes!!
Ramses literally is one of the worst kinds of people. Thinks he can call himself progressive and have a funky haircut and that makes him an ally to women or something. Gross.
I also applaud Nick for not ever clapping back at Hannah really. If someone was saying that crap to me, I’d lose my temper so fast 😂 he has the patience of a saint for real!!!