How to Improve Line Quality

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  • Опубліковано 28 січ 2020
  • A caller's question about line quality. Taken from season 1 episode 22 - • Delegation, Staying Or...
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    Stan Prokopenko and Marshall Vandruff are art instructors. If you love the arts, particularly the craft of drawing and painting and image-making… and you want to level up your skills or even make a living with your skills, we are here to answer your questions. We’re here to offer you advice, refer you to our resources, share your love of the craft and maybe inspire you! Learn to Draw - www.proko.com Marshall Vandruff. Subscribe to the podcast at bit.ly/DraftsmenPod
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 62

  • @allluckyseven
    @allluckyseven 4 роки тому +271

    Boy, Marshall has just a crazy impressive memory.

    • @MystiqWisdom
      @MystiqWisdom 2 роки тому +10

      Well, it's like someone who owns a record store and you ask them which classic rock bands and artists you should check out. It's what they know and their major interest, what they do all day.

    • @teriyaki_chicken
      @teriyaki_chicken Рік тому +1

      You can tell he truly loves art

    • @Lizard1582
      @Lizard1582 9 місяців тому

      What was crazy about his memory here?

  • @Montragon29
    @Montragon29 4 роки тому +122

    We want Draftsmen! And more Marshall singing...

  • @amanofnoreputation2164
    @amanofnoreputation2164 3 роки тому +143

    If you want to conscientiously improve your line quality, there are certainly ways of doing that, but it does gradually get better on it's own too.
    The biggest difference you can make as a beginner is learning to interpolate instead of extrapolate.
    Exterpolating is where you take a spray and pray attitude, draw a bunch of lines, pick the one that's the closest fit, and then awkwardly erase the ones that don't
    This is the "feathering" which is such a prevalent problem. Interpolation is actually learning to make the line go where you want it to by mentally plotting it out in advance. Beginners usually think about where the line starts, but aren't very specific about where it's supposed to end up, which forces them to use guesswork. So an easy fix is to lightly place a dot where the line i supposed to go before drawing it. The same can be done even with complex contours by simply adding more dots and joining them up. If one dot still doesn't get the line in the right place, draw another one in the middle closer to where the line starts. Making a connect the dots puzzle to produce art sounds ridiculous but it does hit the nail on the head when it comes to the feathering problem. It's like using the pen tool in Photoshop.

    • @user-qr5jr3uo5c
      @user-qr5jr3uo5c 2 роки тому +7

      It took me 1.5 years to come up with the same idea (yes, I'm a bit slow)

    • @pauljerome01
      @pauljerome01 Рік тому +1

      Thanks for the advice, it makes the peterhan stuff make more sense

    • @tejeraillustrator3810
      @tejeraillustrator3810 Рік тому

      Thats a great way of explaining it. Thank you!

    • @hommeburgersupreme
      @hommeburgersupreme 5 місяців тому

      thank you for this extremely helpful comment! 🙂

  • @artsyen2103
    @artsyen2103 3 роки тому +51

    4:28 Study from Jeff Watts Line Quality
    5:35 "There are musicians who imitate and study their favourite musicians"
    5:56: Great draftsmen to study from: Jacob De Gheyn II, Guercino, Albrecht Durer, John Tenniel, Beatrix Potter

  • @drawingmaniacsterben7144
    @drawingmaniacsterben7144 4 роки тому +56

    rendering in pen and ink by Guptill helped me so much i cant even express it. Its not just about ink... it is really book that will change the way you think

  • @jacobpolansky8096
    @jacobpolansky8096 4 роки тому +18

    Oh hey, I found Rendering in Pen and Ink for $2.99 in my antique store, and I’ve been getting ready to go over it.

  • @equesdeventusoccasus
    @equesdeventusoccasus 3 роки тому +21

    I am a disabled artist and using my entire arm for drawing is not a possibility for me. That being said, I do not have a problem drawing straight lines using wrist only.
    I usually draw very slowly which causes no issues with my line quality, and even improves my straight lines. It makes no discernable difference in my curved lines.
    It makes no difference between circles, ovals, ellipses, squares or triangles. On extremely long lines, because I am methodical in lifting my pen from the paper, I can reposition paper or my arm, pick up the line where I left off without a detectable stop / start point.
    As with any other style of drawing, it just takes practice. Advice such as you must use your whole arm if you want to draw a circle is bad advice for anyone who has a disability that involves the shoulder or the neck. There are other methods that work equally well for those who either by necessity or choice keep their wing tucked in and not flapping about as if they are ready to fly.

  • @moeykaner1
    @moeykaner1 4 роки тому +29

    I'd also recommend the new Book: 'Framed Drawing Techniques: Mastering Ballpoint Pen, Graphite Pencil, and Digital Tools for Visual Storytelling' by Marcos Mateus-Metre

  • @sketchartist1964
    @sketchartist1964 3 роки тому +19

    I agonized for years trying to learn how to get the interesting line quality that I saw in old master drawings. I think the best way to learn it is by copying their drawings as best one can then try to apply what one learns in ones own drawings. I think some of the best books on the topic are those by Robert Beverly Hale.

  • @onimanga5197
    @onimanga5197 4 роки тому +30

    Man ive seen all of draftsman twice and i still watch these clips when you post them 💕

  • @jackiehonda
    @jackiehonda Рік тому +2

    Marshall: "Just imitate a bunch of their lines [artists you admire] until you feel like you own it, then move on to the next one..."
    Couldn't agree more. Thank you, guys!

  • @vealgangains6314
    @vealgangains6314 4 роки тому +8

    I love the pain recommendation I do this myself and I recently have taken up silver and metal point where you also have to be precise with lines

  • @okitasan
    @okitasan 4 роки тому +10

    I feel lucky to have studied under both Jeff Watts and Stan. Life-changing experience going to the Atelier

  • @nochipmunks8692
    @nochipmunks8692 Рік тому +2

    The book Marshall recommended is just amazing,what a great person you are Marshall

  • @vernonadams1536
    @vernonadams1536 3 роки тому +4

    Prefect analogy Marshall, that's exactly what I was thinking then you said it. You put scales into context and create instead of just mindless scales up and down the registry.

  • @pjlewisful
    @pjlewisful 4 роки тому +5

    I love you 2 together. It makes learning so fun.

  • @anthonyj719
    @anthonyj719 4 роки тому +13

    can't wait for the next season!!

  • @crazyfly5505
    @crazyfly5505 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you. Guptill's book is on archive.

  • @Sewius
    @Sewius 4 роки тому +57

    We are the art students, your style will be assimilated. Resistance is futile.

    • @blissaethetic
      @blissaethetic Рік тому +1

      now, let us prepare ourselves with an inking pen, paper and some ink

  • @SW12234
    @SW12234 3 роки тому +2

    I find this very helpful! Thanks a lot!

  • @shadowyes3249
    @shadowyes3249 4 роки тому +5

    Hell yeah!! Now I can try improving my lines
    Thx draftsmen

  • @theunassumnglocalguy5441
    @theunassumnglocalguy5441 3 роки тому +3

    I found using a g nib dip pen and ink the most helpful to practice with. It's very unforgiving because it requires your angle and pressure to be consitant to achieve line weight and quality. But once it starts to click, its super satisfying.

  • @BrianMarcWhittaker
    @BrianMarcWhittaker 2 роки тому

    Great video! I’m going to apply it to my work and share it with my students.

  • @MCUPW
    @MCUPW 4 роки тому +1

    Great show, guys! Heard about it a while ago, now I am a regular here.

  • @Straight_to_dust
    @Straight_to_dust 2 роки тому

    Best art podcast on the internet!

  • @imnooneh
    @imnooneh Рік тому

    it would be so cool stan if you and marshall did an episode just drawing, talking about the process. i've never asked for anything 😀

  • @handyboy4178
    @handyboy4178 4 роки тому +2

    It has been 2 months already?
    Time flies.

  • @thekevinjustice
    @thekevinjustice 4 роки тому +2

    what is name and book referenced at the 1:35 mark? Thanks!

  • @LetitiaCollins
    @LetitiaCollins 4 роки тому +6

    Where can we get a Proko shirt? Love it!

    • @Draftsmen
      @Draftsmen  4 роки тому +2

      You can get one here - ua-cam.com/users/ProkoTVstore

  • @James-ip7zk
    @James-ip7zk 4 роки тому +5

    Does Jeffrey Watts have books about drawing/illustration? Like those examples in the video?

    • @seanramsey
      @seanramsey 4 роки тому

      Not sure about a book, but he does have a UA-cam Channel.

  • @afuras2534
    @afuras2534 2 роки тому +1

    Do you think conscious tracing helps with line quality since your just focusing on the lines rather than having to worry about other stuff like proportion or anatomy?

  • @carlocatalano9662
    @carlocatalano9662 3 роки тому

    Check out Urs Graf too.

  • @Joel-wj2gi
    @Joel-wj2gi 3 роки тому +3

    Marshall sounds like space ghost haha

  • @karldarwin1253
    @karldarwin1253 4 роки тому +2

    agh i tought it is a full new draftsmen

  • @joevenuspermana6002
    @joevenuspermana6002 3 роки тому +1

    Who artist have same style sketch as guercino?

  • @greennature1045
    @greennature1045 3 роки тому +1

    nice :)

  • @alonsoesponda1055
    @alonsoesponda1055 4 роки тому +3

    Who,s artwork are the drawings of the thumbnail of?

    • @Draftsmen
      @Draftsmen  4 роки тому +3

      Jeffrey Watts

    • @benjilacoustra6271
      @benjilacoustra6271 4 роки тому

      @@Draftsmen Oh... It looks like Charles Dana Gibson's art. I thought it was from his work.
      Thank you both for sharing your knowledge, btw.

  • @xcreenplay7264
    @xcreenplay7264 3 роки тому

    1:08 I still do this 😔😔😔 but I'm learning to break the habit

  • @zack49
    @zack49 4 роки тому +4

    I thought the first hashtag said inequality for a sec. Stan and Marshall talking politics?I was so confused

  • @yofu2969
    @yofu2969 4 роки тому +3

    Thank you fathers-

  • @PuppetMaster8707
    @PuppetMaster8707 2 роки тому

    I draw with my wrist a lot and I just move the paper around to get a straighter line

  • @yelsew6663
    @yelsew6663 4 роки тому +3

    Ay

  • @MOOEMAN
    @MOOEMAN 4 роки тому +4

    what helps me with line variation is holding my pencil sideways, then when i want fine lines i hold it upright

  • @joevenuspermana6002
    @joevenuspermana6002 3 роки тому +1

    Do you know other artist just like Guerchino?

  • @winandnikolatesla2021
    @winandnikolatesla2021 3 роки тому

    5:55

  • @elcapitan549
    @elcapitan549 3 роки тому +1

    Hobbyist here. The day I become a maven I will have you to thank.

  • @johnmanole4779
    @johnmanole4779 Рік тому

    One problem with me is that my lines always look dirty...

  • @kucftbueouy9902
    @kucftbueouy9902 Рік тому +1

    Try writing the N word over and over again. Worked for me.