Dang! You're good! Those verses in Hebrews make it hard to argue. I'm very grateful for this teaching. I hadn't ever connected those verses with Torahism. They seal the deal and let us know that the ultimate sacrifice of Jesus was what the Torah was leading up to Jesus taking the sin of the world and covering that sin with his own blood, not the blood of a bull. Amazing teaching Rob!
Thanks, Mike! Yeah, Hebrews goes so deep into the connection between the OT and NT. I feel like I could study that one book my whole life and still not get it all.
lets see what Yeshua said. Matt 5:17-19 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. 18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled. 19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
I’m greatly enjoying your videos. They are helping me discern what to do with Hebrew Roots interpretations. I’ve studied theology in graduate school and find many of their interpretations to be somewhat compelling. In part this is because it is teaching that is new to me, and apparently everyone else since the teaching has only been present in Christianity in any robust sense for the past 30 years of so, as far as I can tell. At any rate, have you done a video comparing Torahist interpretations of Matthew 5 and how they tie that in with the great commission of Matthew 28? I learn towards your interpretations of Paul and Scripture is Scripture so we can’t have a Gospel of Matthew in opposition to the Gospel of Paul, but I do find their interpretation of Matthew 5: 17-20 to be a bit formidable. NT scholars often see this tension and some (imo) simply read Matthew through the lens of Paul or simply emphasis that Matthew has a Jewish flavor, which is of course true. 5:18, “until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.” A. Often the “until all is accomplished” is understood in terms of Jesus’ death and resurrection, ie the Law is in force until Jesus dies and pays the penalty for our sins. B. Of course the sacrificial aspects of the Law are truly dealt with in the death and resurrection of Jesus, but “heaven and earth have not passed away.” C. And can we say that “All is accomplished” since we are still awaiting the second coming of Jesus, the resurrection, the New Jerusalem, etc? D. This seems to me to mean either, 1. the entire law will remain in effect until the new heavens and the new earth (yet even HRE advocates admit to the death of Christ fulfilling the atonement aspects, at least for now) or 2. The Law remains in effect until the recreation of the heavens and the earth, but this fulfillment is a progressive fulfillment. It is accomplished in stages. Ex: the death of Christ fulfilled the sacrificial aspects, The ingrafting of the gentiles into true believing Israel is the fulfillment of the elements of Theocratic Israel, ie. Many of the ceremonial and civil laws (even if the bible doesn’t explicitly divide the law into the three categories). And some aspects in the Law and prophets (Torah), that Messiah will come and restore Israel and rule over her, are awaiting fulfillment? 5:19 “whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.” A. What commandments are Jesus referring to? Those in the Law and the prophets (vs 18). We aren’t to relax any of them, not even the least of them, unless we want be least in the kingdom of heaven. Jesus statement seems very general. He doesn’t say whoever keeps the moral law, or even the 10 commandments, but the commandments (from greatest to least) found in the law and the prophets. B. Torahists of course tie Jesus admonition here with Matthew 28 where Jesus says “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them… teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you… A. Since Jesus taught his disciples in Matt 5 that “whoever does them (the commandments in the law and prophets) will be called great in the kingdom of heaven, this they taught to new believers in the great commission. Forgive me if this is unpolished. I’m just trying to put the argument out there as I’m seeking the truth of the matter. I am struggling with how to interpret this. Can you help me out?
Hey, Adam! Thanks for your kind words. Your questions are deep and valid. I have not yet published a video on Jesus' teaching in Matthew 5:17-20, but I've been doing some work on it. It's oft-cited by our HRM friends. And while I don't think it's quite as simple as they make it out to be, they do have some valid points. This is one of those difficult teachings of Jesus that needs to be interpreted in light of His clear teachings. The theological and canonical ramifications of the passage are significant. At stake are the relation between the testaments, the place of law in the context of gospel, and the relation of this passage to other NT passages that unambiguously affirm that certain parts of the law (at least) are no longer in effect (e.g., Mark 7:19; Acts 10-11; Heb 7:1-9:10). So I am holding off on publishing a video until I've complete by deep dive and have a better grasp on it. Stay tuned!
@@TheBiblicalRoots in Matthews own account of the Gospel in chapter 9 he talks about how no one puts a piece of unshrunk cloth on a new garment nor wine in old wineskins. This probably lends to the discussion. I'm also reminded of Jesus in John's Gospel who speaks of the time when true worshippers will worship in spirit and in truth. I think I need to get a better understanding of how Jesus viewed the law, not only in his context (I see him keeping the law), but also in how he explains the God's dealings with his people after the sending of the Spirit. Of course Jesus communicates his thoughts on the matter to Paul as well!
@@adamhorstman3398 True! Another factor is that Jesus was born a Jew and, as such, He was born under the Law of Moses. "But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons" (Gal 4:4-5).
All the verses that Jesus puts out there about the Jewish Tanakh…….are phantom verses….they don’t exist! The NT is false, antithetical to the Jew Tanakh!
@@adamhorstman3398 Who cares what he thought about the laws……he went against the commandments and died for them! He was a man not God. Jeremiah 16:20 Can man make themselves gods? They themselves are not gods!
There actually is NO sacrifice for “intentional” sins. The sin sacrifices were for “unintentional” sins. All sins are different, and have different consequences, and Not all sins are worthy of death. But if a man remains in his crookedness and doesn’t turn from his evil ways, he will pay the consequences, sometimes that punishment is death. For “intentional” sins, the ONLY way to atone is through reconciliation. We reconcile through repentance and doing what is right in God’s eyes. Yom Kippur is known as the most sanctified day of the year. In ancient times, the Bible tells us that the sins of Israel are SPOKEN over the goat; and then, the goat is NOT sacrificed, but the goat is SET FREE. Some call this the “scapegoat.” What a beautiful picture of God forgiving us for our sins and casting our sins away! This is truly a special day that we are instructed to remember forever. But it’s not the only day that our sins can be forgiven. Our sins can be forgiven any day and from any place in the world, but the sacrifices could only be performed in the chosen place. If you recall that God made a special covenant with the tribe of Levi. Levi would be God’s ministers and the teachers of the Law. All other 11 tribes were given an inheritance of LAND; however, Levi was given a different inheritance. God made a special covenant with Levi that they’d be His ministers and the teachers of the Law. And within the Levites, only the sons of AARON were allowed to be priests. This was an everlasting covenant. God caused Aaron’s rod to bud as a sign for the one whom He’d chosen to be priests. Then, God instructed that Aaron’s budded rod be placed in the ark of the covenant as an everlasting reminder that only the sons of Aaron were His priests. The FATHER’s tribe determines the tribe of the child. Jesus wasn’t a descendant of Aaron. Therefore, he can’t be a priest. Actually, Jesus never claimed to be a priest…This would be a sin. The author of Hebrews is counseling rebellion against God and His Torah and adding to Jesus’ testimony. The only way our sins can be atoned for is through our own merit. We are justified by our works and not by faith alone..Faith without works is dead. The author of Hebrews is abolishing the Law of Moses. This is lawlessness and it is a sin worthy of death according to the Law. He’s adding and taking away from what Moses wrote. He’s teaching doctrine contrary to the testimony of Jesus. The new covenant is NOT new laws. Creating new laws or abolishing old laws is a sin (see Deuteronomy 4:2 & 12:32.) Nothing can change. The NEW covenant is “TORAH” written on Israel’s heart”(see Jeremiah 31:31-34 & Ezekiel 36:26-27). New covenant just has better promises. When this happens, we will no longer need to make disciples or teach others to know YHVH, because we will all know Him and will obey all of His Torah.” The new covenant is foreshadowed in the Torah itself. We are commanded to circumcise our hearts, and in Torah, God says that His people will rebel against Him, but eventually they’ll turn back, and He will forgive and He will circumcise our hearts for us so that we will never walk away from his Torah again.
Interesting! How did you come to your conclusion about intentional sins? You mentioned the scapegoat which is not sacrificed. But Yom Kippur includes another goat which _is_ sacrificed as a sin offering. And a bull is also sacrificed for sin. “Aaron shall offer the bull as a sin offering for himself and shall make atonement for himself and for his house. Then he shall take the two goats and set them before the Lord at the entrance of the tent of meeting. And Aaron shall cast lots over the two goats, one lot for the Lord and the other lot for Azazel. And Aaron shall present the goat on which the lot fell for the Lord and use it as a sin offering, but the goat on which the lot fell for Azazel shall be presented alive before the Lord to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Azazel." (Lev 16:6-10). Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots You’re correct. In the Torah, there are sacrifices and offerings for different things. For verses about sacrifices brought for “unintentional”sins, we can read about this in Leviticus chapter 4. So, yes, the priests do make sacrifices for their own sins and to cleanse the holy place. Often, God’s people fail to recognize their sins, or they fail to confess their sins, and these “failures” effect God’s people as a whole, and these sins that are unconfessed, or are not repented, make us spiritually sick. Man is sinful, but through God’s mercy and lovingkindness, He gives many, many chances. “Yom Kippur” is the most sanctified day of the year. This is a day in which we “afflict our souls.” We do deep self-reflection, confess our sins, pour out our hearts to God, and we make sincere repentance and restitution for God and our fellow man who we’ve wronged. We do this every year to recommit ourselves to live according to God’s commandments. And with the ritual of the scapegoat, it’s a reminder that sacrifices aren’t required and that God still casts our sins away, never to be seen again. No sacrifice is needed for the door to be opened to God. The circumcision of our hearts in order to love His Torah and the confession of our lips for our sins is all that’s required for the door to be opened. “For You do not delight in sacrifice, otherwise I would give it; You do not take pleasure in burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; A broken and a contrite heart, God, You will not despise.” Sacrifice for sin is the least effective means to forgive sins. The most effective means is to have a heart that mourns over our sin and turns back to His ways. BUT, we must understand that Torah is His way. We must return to His ways, because this is what’s required. When many people read the Hebrew Scriptures and see all the texts about slaughtering and blood, they are offended. It can seem pretty gruesome. But in an agricultural society, it wasn’t offensive. Since the Levites had NO land inheritance, the offerings and sacrifices (most) were their food, it was their inheritance. God ordained it this way so that the common people would take care of their religious leaders. The sacrifices and offerings were also the food for the widows, orphans, and strangers in the land. YHVH has deep, deep love for the widows, orphans, and strangers. If we oppress them, or don’t take care of their needs, it’s a sin. We were strangers in Egypt, and we were oppressed, and YHVH heard our cries and rescued us. We are to do the same for those less fortunate among us. According to the Bible, Sacrifices and offerings may ONLY be brought when there is an Levitical priesthood and when a chosen place is standing, whether it’s the Tent of Meeting or Temple. Otherwise, they are FORBIDDEN. Remember, God is sovereign. He wouldn’t set up a system of atonement in which His people didn’t have access to. Our prophets confirm that sacrifices for the forgiveness of sins isn’t required. Praise God! We all have access to God, no matter where we are. We all have access to God and no mediator is needed, no priest, NO MESSIAH, no saints, nobody…we all go straight to God in confession and repentance and praise and with our petitions, just like all of our patriarchs did. Nothing has changed.
@@AbrahamsBridges Agreed! You stated that very well. I also would like to compliment your comments by pointing out that God didn’t require sacrifices outside of the land of Israel. We can see this truth illustrated in the previous two Jewish exiles. God accepted their repentance, without sacrifices while we were in Egypt and in Babylon. Furthermore, we can see that the prophet Jonah told Nineveh to repent for their sins or God would would bring his wrath. No mention of a sacrifice as a condition, nor did they bring forth a sacrifice. God had to honor his promise of life and death through repentance found in the Law. Shalom!
6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else. 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. 8 Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it. 1611 KJV This was before the Christian church decided to change the words of God. @@TheBiblicalRoots
Hi rob this limited view on atonement is a bigger discussion.the altar need to be atoned for the temple needed to be atoned for did the altar and temple sin no.when Ex19 God mentions. Kingdom ex 20 gives instructions for that kingdom. Love God love your neighbor.it’s a covenant of love.then gives instructions for a temple that God may dwell with them.then give the instructions on how to keep the temple unpolluted,no unclean animals don’t offer them don’t eat them as to enter sacred space .this was done to protect Gods house because we want God to continue to stay. The sacrifices we for unintentional sin read lev ch 4 and 5. And this was to cleanse for ritual impurity again keeping Gods house clean . So the worshipper can enter Gods sacred space and .not pollute it .numbers 6 about the man that violated the sabbath was stoned .why could he not offer a bull for his sin. Because it was intentional .bigger disscusion which can only be understood by reading Torah …shalom
Hey Rob! My name is Diego and unfortunately we had a false teacher come into our church and cause division on this very believe system, “torahsim”. They even convinced my father to follow it and he was the very one who taught me from the beginning the Christ was the way. Not by works. I’ve tried to win him back for the Lord, but when thing I was always noticed that he argues is that the Bible we use such as the King James Version is not viable and was changed by the Roman’s and so on. So they use a different type of Bible. I forgot what the name was. But what I’m asking is how do you present a good argument against this. Thank you! I’ve learned a lot from your videos!
I'm sorry to hear that you have to deal with that, Diego. How frustrating! I would be curious to know what translation they use and why they believe it is better than the mainstream translations we use today. With Torah-keepers, there are often a lot of unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. Sometimes it helps to press them for details to see if there is any reasonable justification for what they're saying. Blessings, Rob
Sure, in modern Judaism, prayer, repentance, and good deeds are said to replace the sacrifices as a means of atonement. And interestingly, there no longer seems to be much urgency to rebuild the temple. Nor does there seem to be a reason to since prayer, repentance, and good deeds are now accepted as substitutes for the YHWH's commandments. The fact is the Torah _does_ require blood sacrifice to atone for intentional sin. For example, Lev 6:2 says that fraud, lying, and even theft are to be atoned for by repentance, restitution, and blood sacrifice. Also, Lev 5:1 (still speaking of the sin offering) mentions a failure to rescue an innocent plaintiff with truthful testimony and 5:4 mentions the violation of rash oaths as forgivable under the rules of the sin offering. And more than that, not all of the types of sacrifice are said to be limited to unintentional sin. Burnt offerings are said to “make atonement” (Lev 1:4). And offerings for the festivals (e.g., Passover and Yom Kippur) certainly have an atoning effect. And the sin of the “high hand” is for the very intentional sin of “despising” God’s commands in a defiant and blasphemous manner.
@@TheBiblicalRoots Your reply’s are scary……….and totally ignorant. 1. If you think humans will built the temple…….you are not reading. 2. If prayer, repentance and good deeds replaced the sacrifice of animals after the fall of the temple…..why would you ever need Jesit…..you are not reading. Please give the Jewish scripture that says that prayer, repentance and good deeds…..replaces commandments……. Please answer this….!?!? Even though I know why you didn’t give a verses that prove what you told this person…..because you can’t. Professor your answers are becoming sloppy to one’s who study the Jewish scripture daily. Please keep reading!
You are correct! His reply is false, hence why he didn’t give a verse for his opinions. If he knows that a blood sacrifice was never for atoning for sin…….he would never need Jesit in his life. Christianity is pure idolatry, the book of Esau!
I agree. It’s also important to point out that you are only held accountable to sins you know you committed. Once you know of your sin the first requirement is to repent This is not a confessional with your priest, or a desperate plea to Jesus, but a command to make it right with the one you sinned against. Only after confession and restitution have been completed are you allowed to bring a sacrifice. Some sacrifices had nothing to do with sin at all but were for things like menstrual cycles, or burying the dead etc. Some sacrifices had absolutely nothing to do with death or blood . Like incense, or bowl offerings.
@@tactup23 Leviticus 5:17 “If anyone sins and does what is forbidden in any of the LORD’s commands, even though they do not know it, they are guilty and will be held responsible. Ecclesiastes 11:9 You who are young, be happy while you are young, and let your heart give you joy in the days of your youth. Follow the ways of your heart and whatever your eyes see, but know that for all these things God will bring you into judgment. Ecclesiastes 12:14 For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil. Proverbs 7:2 keep my commandments and live; keep my teaching as the apple of your eye; Proverbs 4:4 he taught me and said, "Let your heart lay hold of my words; keep my commands and you will live. Exodus 20:6 But showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments. Deuteronomy 10:12-13 “And now, Israel, what does the Lord your God require of you, but to fear the Lord your God, to walk in all his ways, to love him, to serve the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, and to keep the commandments and statutes of the Lord, which I am commanding you today for your good? Ecclesiastes 12:13 The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. Exodus 15:26 Saying, “If you will diligently listen to the voice of the Lord your God, and do that which is right in his eyes, and give ear to his commandments and keep all his statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you that I put on the Egyptians, for I am the Lord, your healer.” Deuteronomy 5:29 Oh that they had such a mind as this always, to fear me and to keep all my commandments, that it might go well with them and with their descendants forever! Deuteronomy 4:40 Therefore you shall keep his statutes and his commandments, which I command you today, that it may go well with you and with your children after you, and that you may prolong your days in the land that the Lord your God is giving you for all time.” Psalms 119:172 My tongue will sing of your word, for all your commandments are right. Psalms 119:151 But you are near, O LORD, and all your commandments are true. Psalm 119:142 Your righteousness is everlasting and Your law is true. Psalm 119:150 Those who follow after wickedness draw near; they are far from Your law.
Another good video. Have you covered the epistle of 1 John and Torahism's proof texting of it? It strikes me as staving off a proto-Gnosticism, defiantly not how Torahism uses that letter. And also because you brought up eschatology 2 Peter 3:16 is one verse Torah promoters like to use to say we get Paul's words wrong. But why would Peter in the middle of talking about The Day of the Lord suddenly interject with the idea that people misunderstand Paul generally instead of specifically Paul's eschatology? Do you know anything about early false teachings on eschatology? Any insight would be most helpful.
Thanks, Rocketman! I've not looked much into early false eschatological teachings in the Church. But I've often heard "Torah-keeping" Christians quote 2 Pet 3:16 when trying to reject the traditional understanding of Paul's teachings. Which, as you pointed out, is a misapplication of that verse. ~Rob
@Rocketman..........The Johannine Logos ( Gordon H. Clark) Not that John was unaware of the philosophical use of the word. Gnosticism flourished in the second century. By implication it mush have appeared in some form in the first century. Evidence from the New Testament itself ( Ephesians, Colossians, and the epistles of John) corroborates this inference. This situation may help to explain why John wrote his Prologue. If we suppose that Gnostic ideas were growing in popularity before A.D 90, it seems reasonable that a Christian author, not to say an apostle, might warn his readers against false views of the Logos. There were such false views. But there is some Old Testament background as well. When the Jewish scholars in Alexandria about 200 B.C. translated the Old Testament into Greek, they had to decide how to speak of the word of God. The Hebrew root is DBR. What Greek word should be used for " word"? From Genesis to Ruth the Jewish translators preferred the Greek word " rheema". In the prophets, however, the Alexandrian translators preferred "Logos". Hence even from the standpoint of the Jewish background, John had reason to use this term; but the way he used it in the Prologue can, I believe, best be explained as a denial of pagan religions.
My understanding is that when they ate of the tree of good and evil, they lost eternal salvation. Meaning their souls would die. Fear the one who can kill the body and the soul. In a very old Bible I have, it says repeatedly they died by death. Yah does not mislead or speak in generalities. By disobeying Yah, they lost their salvation. More commonly known as the second death.
Don't you think God knew they would eat of the tree of good and evil, and it was his plan to give all of us the chance to live by his commandments, or use our free will to go against him, we all pay for our own sins but if we repent and change our ways God forgives us, we don't need anybody to die for our sins, we just have to repent and mean it, Adam and Eve showed us we have a choice, and if we choose wrong we pay for it.
@@robinq5511 You don't read the old testament or you would know that nobody can die for our sin, Ezekiel 18. 20 The soul that sins, it shall die; a son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, and a father shall not bear the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself. 21 And if the wicked man repent of all his sins that he has committed and keeps all My laws and executes justice and righteousness, he shall surely live, he shall not die. 22 All his transgressions that he has committed shall not be remembered regarding him: through his righteousness that he has done he shall live. 23 Do I desire the death of the wicked? says the Lord God. Is it not rather in his repenting of his ways that he may live? 24 And when the righteous repents of his righteousness and does wrong and does like all the abominations that the wicked man did, shall he live? All his righteous deeds that he has done shall not be remembered; in his treachery that he has perpetrated and in his sin that he has sinned, in them shall he die. 25 Yet you say, 'The way of the Lord is not right!' Hear now, O house of Israel: Is it My way that is not right? Is it not rather your ways that are not right? That is God speaking to Jews and Gentiles, so your Jesus died in vain, he could not die for our sins.
@@robinq5511 Deuteronomy 24:16; New International Version Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin. King James Bible The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin. New American Standard Bible “Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin alone. All the bibles say the same thing, Jesus could not die for our sin.
@@richardbluett958 Which is why you shouldn't pull a verse out of its context. This was a law given to MEN not to God: xo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me. Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth: Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me; Exo 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
THE OLD COVENANT MADE OBSOLETE AS A MEANS OF SALVATION OR ATTAINING RIGHTEOUSNESS IN GOD'S SIGHT! The Law “KILLS” (2 Cor. 3:6) We are “dead” to it (Rom. 7:4) The Law is “WEAK” and “unprofitable” (Heb. 7:18) The Law was “AGAINST US” “contrary to us” (Col. 2:14) The Law is “the LETTER…written and engraved IN STONES” (the 10 commandments) (2 Cor. 3:7) The Law was “BLOTTED OUT” (Col. 2:14) The Law was "TAKEN OUT OF OUR WAY"! (Col. 2:14) The Law is “decaying and waxing old, ready to vanish away” (Heb. 8:13) The Law was “our school teacher to bring us to Christ” (Gal. 3:24) The Law has been “ABOLISHED” (2 Cor. 3:13) The Law has been “ANNULLED” (Heb. 7:18) The Law was fulfilled by Christ- "It is FINISHED!" The Law was “NAILED TO THE CROSS” (Col. 2:14) John Gill, a Hebrew Christian commentator wrote “this is true of the whole law of Moses…the abolition of it is owing to the cross of Christ; where and when He bore the curse and penalty of the law for his people, as well as answered all the types and shadows of it (John Gill’s Commentary)
Great Teaching Rob, I love watching your Videos! You Can’t teach Narcissists and Jesus Didn’t waste his time on those whom rejected coming to him that they might be saved. You can only lead a “Jackass” to the Water of Life, but you can’t force him to drink from it. They are blind guides leading the blind!
I am glad I found your videos. I have relatives who are HRM and they condemn christianity and say we must follow Torah because Jesus is coming again to separate the sheep (those who follow Torah) and goats (those who do NOT follow Torah), and they condemn those who celebrate the Birth of our LORD and HIS Death and Resurrection! and they condemn those who go to church on Sunday!
John 14:15 - If you love me, obey my Commandments John 12:49 - I have not spoken on My own, but the Father who sent Me has commanded Me what to say and how to say it. Matthew 5:17 through 19 - 17Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. 18For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19So then, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven Matthew 7:22 and 23 - 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’ Colossians 2:8 - See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, which are based on human tradition and the spiritual forces of the world rather than on Christ. Ecclesiastes 12:13 and 14 - 13Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep His commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. 14For God will bring every work into judgment, including every secret thing, whether it is good or whether it is evil. 2 Peter 3:15 and 16 - 15Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. 16He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. 17Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard so that you will not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure standing. Acts 24: 14 "But this I do admit to you: I worship the God of our fathers in accordance with the Way (which they call a sect). I continue to believe everything that accords with the Torah and everything written in the Prophets. Romans 3:31 - Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law....
you must be a seven day Adventist? we Christians keep the law the all 9 commandments by love not by works, and another thing we also obey the tenth which is the Sabbath? but not the way the Adventists do? our Sabbath is in Christ, because he is our Sabbath , and we have our rest in Jesus, that means we can worship him any day of the week. for the simple reason that has accomplished all things on the cross God bless
The misstake Prof. Solberg does is not to see the unity of the whole Bible. Christian today keep 204 commanments without to think about it, which show that the laws and statures is put into the believers heart, which was the Goal of the Torah. Some Christians keep 275 commandments. Jews keep as a group keep somewhat 290 commandments. Just now there is no Temple but it will be built yet again in order to teach about the meaning of sacrifice. The back into Israel alla the 613 commandments will yet again be fulfilled. But no gentile has the calling to keep the commandment. The Torah is given to the Jews and this rule is still valid. Christian has Jesus, so his sacrifice is for the gentile. But even Jews who has become Christians has still the calling to live as Jews. This is a command.
Would it be more accurate to say that Jesus shed his own blood for all sinners, rather than all believers? Through his shed blood and death on the cross, all sinners are forgiven. In turn, our free will decision to believe that Jesus is the Son of God makes us believers. Our sins were already forgiven before we believed.
Knowing that Yahushua - Jesus die for our Sins Once and for all, Do we keep Sinning (Breaking God's Law 1John3v4)that Grace may abound, may it never be. Rom 3v31 We Establish the Law. Something doesn't fit Here?
Hi, Karl! You may find this video I made helpful: *How do Christians uphold the law? A bible study on Romans 3:31* ua-cam.com/video/X8on5zSXv0Q/v-deo.html. Shalom, Rob
Why didn't the sprinkle the blood of Jesus on the alter to make it a real sacrifice to God, and Jesus was not without blemish because he had been whipped and wore a crown of thorns on his head, and where in the O.T. Does God say I will send my son to die for our sins, Just curious.
Hi Richard. I see you take a hard, literal stance on these issues. Respectfully, that's not a biblcal approach, even when reading the Tanakh. And especially regarding prophecy. (Look at all the metaphor and imagery in Isaiah!) Jesus was not a literal animal sacrifice. Those animal sacrifices were actually only given as a reminder of sin, as a shadow that pointed to Ultimate Sacrifice (Heb 10). Jesus was "without blemish" in terms of sin. As far as predicting His death, we see it hinted at as far back as Gen 3:15. Abraham's near-sacrifice of Isaac was also a foreshadowing of it. (In fact, Jesus was sacrificed on that same hill.) And the death and resurrection was explained explicitly in Isaiah 53. Blessings, Rob
Why is that good news….? If Christianity is correct, no prob…..say they name before dying and the Jews are good…… However, if the Jews are correct………man……….should of listened.
Keeping Torah can't save you, but death and Resurrection Yahushua Hamashiyach by blood. Rom 6v1 Do we Sinning that Grace may abound, Yah Forbid. 1John 3v4 breaking the Torah-Law.
Hi, Karl. You’ve got me curious. If sin is defined as the breaking of the Law of Moses-which is what you are saying about 1 John 3:4-then how can Scripture tell us that Adam and Eve sinned? Which mitzvah of the Mosaic Law did they break?
@@TheBiblicalRoots torah means "instructions". It is a standard of righteousness that had never changed. Adam and Eve did disobey God's instructions... that was sin. Paul's letter to the Roman's tells us the instructions given at mount Sinai were added because of transgressions.... transgression of what??? His standard of righteousness... people sinned (violated God's standard of righteousness) before it was even given at mount Sinai. Heres a good anology: As a parent, you have a standard of how you want your child to be raised. However, when they are a toddler they are very ignorant to many of the things they could possibly do as an older kid or a teenager... theres no need to give them all of the household rules at two, nor rules about driving a car when they are 10. However, as your child gets older and goes about their life, things come up that become relevant and need to be addressed. So it was with God's people. We see the patriarchs all transgress the God's standard of righteousness given later at mount Sinai. We see those things clearly addressed so no body would be ignorant to those things any longer. I hope this brings clarity to your understanding of the purpose of God's instructions.
@@krissysedlak7490 Exactly, Krissy. Thank you! This is the concept I outlined in my video *The unchanging law of God* ua-cam.com/video/YqpcV0AGPPM/v-deo.html Shalom, Rob
nobody argues that the law saves us or cleanses us. the law is how a child of God born of the spirit should live. as the spirit of God cannot lead someone to break his laws but to conform and live according to them as new creatures in Christ. there has to be a definition of right and wrong. and if there is no law, there is no sin because sin is by definition the transgression of the law. Paul was accused in the book of Acts of teaching against the law and defended himself and sought to prove this false. why would he do such a thing? Gods laws are instructions for righteous living. without them, is just lawlessness and Messiah said depart from me workers of lawlessness. i surely dont want to be a worker of lawlessness.
Hey Jacob. The argument isn’t about whether the general Law of God needs to be obeyed, but specifically the Law of Moses that God gave to Israel at Sinai. And even more specifically, are Gentiles required to keep that law. Best, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots there is no difference between Jew and Gentile. one body one mind, one law. grafted inyo one tree. the body of Messiah is not divided. Paul and all tge early believers kept the law, so I believe we should want to as well
Hi, Pete! The Gentiles were not commanded to keep Sabbath, eat kosher, be circumcised, keep the feasts, and so on. These are the primary identifiers of Torah-keeping and are very easy for a Gentile to learn and adapt. Yet they were given just the four restrictions. So how did you come to the conclusion that they were taught to "keep Torah?" Shalom, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots so you agree gentils were given four commandments straight from the law? They must be starting out laws, because christs law isnt in that 4. So theres the 4 given to gentils. Then 2 more for christs law? So that would be 6 total. Are these 6 the only laws for gentils? Or are there more from the law they must keep? There must be more than 6 because paul says people partaking in witchcraft have no inheritance in kingdom. So i guess theres 7 total now? You see where im going with this. Theres one behavior for jew and gentile. It seems your picking and choosing which laws you are supposed to follow. Most christians dont even care about not eating strangled meats. Most dont follow that law. So let me get this straight. Gentiles are not to eat strangled meats. But they can eat unclean ( pig) ? That makes no sense. Eat unclean, but make sure its killed properly (not strangled)? That makes no sense
@@TheBiblicalRoots gentils were not commanded to circumcise? Abraham was a gentile. So yahweh commanded a gentile to circumcise but now he doesnt want gentiles to get circumcised? That makes no sense. You need to be responsible and face the facts. And change your stance. Considering your in a teaching position
@@TheBiblicalRoots so in the mellenial kingdom, you being a gentile will be eating pork, but jews and jesus arent? Jesus and jews are gonna keep shabbot on Saturday, but gentils wont? Makes no sense. Acts 15 proves the torah is for gentiles. Also, you questioned if my understanding of acts 15 was just 4 starting out commandments. Of course, your position agrees with it. If it didnt, ud have to throw away christs law. Which are the two greatest pulled straight from torah. So technically your stance agrees those 4 are just starting out laws.
@@TheBiblicalRoots zach 14 is prophecy on “ the day of the lord”. Isiah 66 is prophecy on “ the day of the lord”. Ezekiel 40-47 is prophecy on the mellenial kingdom. Within the scriptures i provided we see yahweh choosing new priests and levites for the temple. Scripture clearly tells us yahwehs feast days continuing in mk. So according to your position , in the mellenial kingdom, jesus and the jews will partake in feast days? But gentils will not? Makes no sense.
@@TheBiblicalRoots 2 Timothy 3 (KJV) ¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯¯ ⁷ Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. ⁸ Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith. ⁹ But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was. NEITHER jew nor greek .... it reads ALL ISRAEL ....shall be saved....the dogs are not: “For without the commandents are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.” Revelation 22:15 (KJV) It defines DOG quite well, happy you agreed!!
@@codyalexander3290 Ezekiel 18:20 The person who sins is the one who will die. The child will not be punished for the parent’s sins, and the parent will not be punished for the child’s sins. Righteous people will be rewarded for their own righteous behavior, and wicked people will be punished for their own wickedness. Very relevant……..just a verse that Christians want to devalue………..kind of goes against the ideology of Christianity. Like….. Jeremiah 31:33 “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,” declares the LORD. “I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. Still a covenant for the Jews…..same covenant…..just now every Jew will love the Torah and never leave its ways again. Ezekiel was an understudy if Jeremiah’s…..prophets from prophets only expound the words of Torah and the prophesies of the one before them. Most Christian’s don’t even know what the origin of the NT is……… Yet Christian’s cannot play Jesit in the beginning……the Torah! Isaiah 46:10 I declare the end from the beginning, and ancient times from what is still to come. I say, ‘My purpose will stand, and all My good pleasure I will accomplish.’ The Torah is the beginning……so that means the end is in the Torah……so why do we need an alternate ending? The NT cannot be, it is not in the beginning….therefore it cannot be the end! The Torah cannot be false, and the NT true, anything true isn’t new, and anything new isn’t true! Ecclesiastes! Jesit debunks himself…….but men do!
@@codyalexander3290 And what verse from the Jewish Tanakh isn’t relevant? That’s like saying…..something God said…..isn’t relevant …………be careful…..or He will make you irrelevant!
Rob......How often does the HRM/ Torahism deny the imputed righteousness of Christ? There is a person defending Zach Bauer on an old video ( Galatians) done by Beginning of Wisdom. This person thinks Jesus only died for the forgiveness of sins. " imputed righteousness" is not in the Bible...and it's only Christianity that believes this. Paul quoted Gen 15 :6 to say Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him for righteousness." I know there are many " confused evangelicals" that argue Jesus only died for the forgiveness of sins. Then why did Jesus live an obedient on this earth for 33 years? If Jesus only died for the forgiveness of sins......you are then back at the starting point in the Garden of Eden. Adam was under a covenant of works. The second Adam, last Adam, was also under the covenant of works. It is either your righteousness ( and you can't obey the law perfectly, ever) or it is Christ's righteousness.
@@TheBiblicalRoots Why? Laziness? Can’t improve? Why choose to make God in man’s image, instead of man in Gods image? Jesit has no connection to Torah. Except as a warning, as well as Islam. What desire is it that you can’t let go of?
@@Pverb623 "But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it-the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith." Romans 3:21-25
@@TheBiblicalRoots That verse is a clear lie……and a lack of trust with the creator! Proverbs 19:7-8 The law of the Lord is perfect, reviving the soul; the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple; the precepts of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart; the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes; the fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever; the rules of the Lord are true, and righteous altogether. Isaiah 33:22For the Lord is our judge; the Lord is our lawgiver; the Lord is our king; he will save us. Proverbs 28:4 Those who forsake the law praise the wicked, but those who keep the law strive against them. Ecclesiastes 12:3 The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. Joshua 1:8 This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success. Psalms 119:10 With my whole heart I seek you; let me not wander from your commandments! Deuteronomy 28:1 “And if you faithfully obey the voice of the Lord your God, being careful to do all his commandments that I command you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations of the earth. Psalms 119:165 Great peace have those who love your law; nothing can make them stumble. Psalms 119:30 I have chosen the way of faithfulness; I set your commandments before me. Psalms 103:17-18 But the steadfast love of the Lord is from everlasting to everlasting on those who fear him, and his righteousness to children's children, to those who keep his covenant and remember to do his commandments. Deuteronomy 39:16 If you obey the commandments of the Lord your God that I command you today, by loving the Lord your God, by walking in his ways, and by keeping his commandments and his statutes and his rules, then you shall live and multiply, and the Lord your God will bless you in the land that you are entering to take possession of it. Malachi 4:4 “Remember the law of my servant Moses, the statutes and rules that I commanded him at Horeb for all Israel. Psalms 119:1 Blessed are those whose way is blameless, who walk in the law of the Lord! Joshua 22:5 Only be very careful to observe the commandment and the law that Moses the servant of the Lord commanded you, to love the Lord your God, and to walk in all his ways and to keep his commandments and to cling to him and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul.” Deuteronomy 10:12-13 “And now, Israel, what does the Lord your God require of you, but to fear the Lord your God, to walk in all his ways, to love him, to serve the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, and to keep the commandments and statutes of the Lord, which I am commanding you today for your good? The commandments are attached to life, creation……..as the Torah shows the ten utterances, Ten Commandments and ten plagues coincide and are ingrained with everything created. So commandments cannot be excluded, nor taken away……..add to them and be found a lier. Law, even in all of society must be fulfilled each and everyday……you break that law…..you serve out what the punishment/corrective training, then you are released , thus re-fulfilling said law. If I didn’t get arrested for said law….then I am fulfilling it….and must do each day! David loved the commandments, listen to the love of them in psalms 119…….why does Jesit exclaim that the commandments are a wondrous mercy that God gave us…….when David did? You know the genealogy problem has……..and Jewish laws from Torah that prohibits certain family dynamics to not allow a seat on King David’s seat. Why believe in Jeremiah 31:31……yet not v.29…..or…….v.32,33,34-37? And truly the verse you gave……did not answer the question! Not that I don’t except your answer……if the Jewish scripture didn’t refute every verse of the NT……then I would be denying your answer………this way it’s only God refuting it.
The Law is perfect and fortunately for us that same law doesn’t require perfection. It’s such a beautiful thing! Some people feel obligated to obey the law because they believe in God. I feel sorry for them. I believe in God because his Law is so enriching, so fulfilling, so incredibly full of underserved grace and mercy! His Torah is proof of his absolute goodness. How fortunate we are to have his commandments, statutes and ordinances to guide us through this world full of theological stumbling blocks, mystical bunny trails, dogmatic racism, & empty pursuits! There is only one standard for mankind everything else is foolishness. It’s good to be a Yid!
Blood isn’t required to atone for sins. The Christian Bible takes this verse in Leviticus out of context. If you read the verse in context, you will see that it is referring to the consumption of blood. This command is forbidding the consumption of blood. Consuming blood is forbidden. The Bible says that the only purpose of blood is to atone for sins, but blood is NOT required to atone for sins. Many things can atone for sins, such as fine flour, the giving of charity to the poor, prayer, and repentance. Do you believe that the God of Israel would set up by system of atonement that only the rich could use? What if a persons financial state was very poor and he couldn’t afford an animal? Torah teaches that he could bring flour. These sacrifices were the food for their teachers. The Levites had NO land inheritance. they were the ministers of the Lord. Their payment for their services was the privilege to serve and they received food in this manner from the sacrifices. In fact, blood sacrifices were the least effective means of atonement. Blood sacrifice weren’t “required”. What did all the prophets teach? They taught…Return faithless Israel! No sacrifice required! Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be white as snow. The nations around them poisoned their minds and taught them wrong doctrine. Simply repent…it’s the most effective means to get right with God.
"For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life." (Leviticus 17:11)
@@TheBiblicalRoots I’m aware of the text. However, it’s taken out of context. The context of this verse is to say that consuming blood is forbidden. The only purpose of blood is to atone for sins; However, Blood sacrifice isn’t the ONLY means to atone for sins.
@@AbrahamsBridges 22 In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness. 23 It was necessary, then, for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with human hands that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God’s presence. 25 Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. 26 Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.
All you've done with this video is make the point of the hebrew roots movement. We don't want to bring back the sacrificial system of the levites. We have the sacrificial system of an older priesthood, Melekhesidic (Christ) is our sacrifice. So this video doesn't disagree with the hebrew roots. And that 3rd temple stuff is far out there. I've been in the hebrew roots over 10 years and I've never heard that one. So yes, this is how any hebrew roots person would interpret the book of Hebrews.
@@yakovmatityahu स्वागत हे! According to my DNA test, I am from India, too. :-) Or at least I am a small part Indian. When I told this to my Indian friends here in Nashville, they said, "We are not surprised. There are 1 billion of us!"
You keep saying "TORAHISM" But the TORAH is the LAW, in English. But isn't the TORAH given by YAHUWAH ELOHIM? If You keep asking the CHRISTIANS to IGNORE the TORAH, meaning IGNORE YAHUWAH ELOHIM all together. YAHSHUA Hamashiach came to Fulfill the FATHER'S TORAH. HE did not come to DESTROY it. But You are asking the CHRISTIANS to basically DESTROY the TORAH in Their HEARTS as to NOT be TORAHIST. PS: The TORAH is NOT Dangerous, it is You that is DANGEROUS, Chief. SHALOM
Actually, Erwin, the Hebrew word תּוֹרָה (torah) means “teaching, doctrine, or instruction.” However, the words law and Torah are often used interchangeably. And when the word torah is used to mean “law” it can give a wrong impression and open the door for misinterpretation and confusion. Jewish Rabbi Adin Even-Israel warns that, "To translate Torah as 'law' misses the mark, even though the Bible may be seen as a book containing laws and moral instruction for living. On the other hand, this aspect of instruction-the teaching-is certainly basic to Torah; without it the Torah would be just a monumental work of literature." For Christians, the Torah (which is a term that refers to the first 5 books of the Bible) is a vital part of our sacred Scripture and should never be ignored or destroyed! The term _Torah-ISM,_ on the other hand, refers to a distorted, unbiblical view of the Torah, and more specifically the Law of Moses. Remember that not every command that God has given applies to every person at all times. Some of His commands were only given for certain people or certain times. And we're each only expected to keep the commands of God that apply to us. Blessings, Rob
Christians don’t follow the commandments because they are not Jews nor Noahides…….so they don’t believe that God is one, and only one! Psalms 50:16 But to the wicked person, God says: “What right have you to recite my laws or take my covenant on your lips? Why do you ignore scripture professor…? Isn’t the pursuit of truth, where I you find where your wrong, and adjust accordingly!?!? Or is denying just easier? Pride before destruction!
Dang! You're good!
Those verses in Hebrews make it hard to argue. I'm very grateful for this teaching. I hadn't ever connected those verses with Torahism. They seal the deal and let us know that the ultimate sacrifice of Jesus was what the Torah was leading up to Jesus taking the sin of the world and covering that sin with his own blood, not the blood of a bull.
Amazing teaching Rob!
Thanks, Mike! Yeah, Hebrews goes so deep into the connection between the OT and NT. I feel like I could study that one book my whole life and still not get it all.
Maybe that is the point. We have to keep reading. Keep studying. That's definitely one thing that keeps us closer to God.
Where does God say he will send his son to die for our sins against God, I can't find it.
Please read more….he is not impressive at all!
He skips verses and chapters, religiously!
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Because in the Jewish scripture, it is not there….ever!
lets see what Yeshua said.
Matt 5:17-19
Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil.
18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
19 Whosoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whosoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
Yep! That's what He said, Jacob. Thanks.
I’m greatly enjoying your videos. They are helping me discern what to do with Hebrew Roots interpretations. I’ve studied theology in graduate school and find many of their interpretations to be somewhat compelling. In part this is because it is teaching that is new to me, and apparently everyone else since the teaching has only been present in Christianity in any robust sense for the past 30 years of so, as far as I can tell.
At any rate, have you done a video comparing Torahist interpretations of Matthew 5 and how they tie that in with the great commission of Matthew 28? I learn towards your interpretations of Paul and Scripture is Scripture so we can’t have a Gospel of Matthew in opposition to the Gospel of Paul, but I do find their interpretation of Matthew 5: 17-20 to be a bit formidable. NT scholars often see this tension and some (imo) simply read Matthew through the lens of Paul or simply emphasis that Matthew has a Jewish flavor, which is of course true.
5:18, “until heaven and earth pass away, not an iota, not a dot, will pass from the Law until all is accomplished.”
A. Often the “until all is accomplished” is understood in terms of Jesus’ death and resurrection, ie the Law is in force until Jesus dies and pays the penalty for our sins.
B. Of course the sacrificial aspects of the Law are truly dealt with in the death and resurrection of Jesus, but “heaven and earth have not passed away.”
C. And can we say that “All is accomplished” since we are still awaiting the second coming of Jesus, the resurrection, the New Jerusalem, etc?
D. This seems to me to mean either, 1. the entire law will remain in effect until the new heavens and the new earth (yet even HRE advocates admit to the death of Christ fulfilling the atonement aspects, at least for now) or 2. The Law remains in effect until the recreation of the heavens and the earth, but this fulfillment is a progressive fulfillment. It is accomplished in stages. Ex: the death of Christ fulfilled the sacrificial aspects, The ingrafting of the gentiles into true believing Israel is the fulfillment of the elements of Theocratic Israel, ie. Many of the ceremonial and civil laws (even if the bible doesn’t explicitly divide the law into the three categories). And some aspects in the Law and prophets (Torah), that Messiah will come and restore Israel and rule over her, are awaiting fulfillment?
5:19 “whoever relaxes one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do the same will be called least in the kingdom of heaven, but whoever does them and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven.”
A. What commandments are Jesus referring to? Those in the Law and the prophets (vs 18). We aren’t to relax any of them, not even the least of them, unless we want be least in the kingdom of heaven. Jesus statement seems very general. He doesn’t say whoever keeps the moral law, or even the 10 commandments, but the commandments (from greatest to least) found in the law and the prophets.
B.
Torahists of course tie Jesus admonition here with Matthew 28 where Jesus says “Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them… teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you…
A. Since Jesus taught his disciples in Matt 5 that “whoever does them (the commandments in the law and prophets) will be called great in the kingdom of heaven, this they taught to new believers in the great commission.
Forgive me if this is unpolished. I’m just trying to put the argument out there as I’m seeking the truth of the matter. I am struggling with how to interpret this. Can you help me out?
Hey, Adam! Thanks for your kind words. Your questions are deep and valid. I have not yet published a video on Jesus' teaching in Matthew 5:17-20, but I've been doing some work on it. It's oft-cited by our HRM friends. And while I don't think it's quite as simple as they make it out to be, they do have some valid points. This is one of those difficult teachings of Jesus that needs to be interpreted in light of His clear teachings. The theological and canonical ramifications of the passage are significant. At stake are the relation between the testaments, the place of law in the context of gospel, and the relation of this passage to other NT passages that unambiguously affirm that certain parts of the law (at least) are no longer in effect (e.g., Mark 7:19; Acts 10-11; Heb 7:1-9:10).
So I am holding off on publishing a video until I've complete by deep dive and have a better grasp on it. Stay tuned!
@@TheBiblicalRoots in Matthews own account of the Gospel in chapter 9 he talks about how no one puts a piece of unshrunk cloth on a new garment nor wine in old wineskins. This probably lends to the discussion. I'm also reminded of Jesus in John's Gospel who speaks of the time when true worshippers will worship in spirit and in truth.
I think I need to get a better understanding of how Jesus viewed the law, not only in his context (I see him keeping the law), but also in how he explains the God's dealings with his people after the sending of the Spirit.
Of course Jesus communicates his thoughts on the matter to Paul as well!
@@adamhorstman3398 True! Another factor is that Jesus was born a Jew and, as such, He was born under the Law of Moses. "But when the fullness of time had come, God sent forth his Son, born of woman, born under the law, to redeem those who were under the law, so that we might receive adoption as sons" (Gal 4:4-5).
All the verses that Jesus puts out there about the Jewish Tanakh…….are phantom verses….they don’t exist!
The NT is false, antithetical to the Jew Tanakh!
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Who cares what he thought about the laws……he went against the commandments and died for them!
He was a man not God.
Jeremiah 16:20
Can man make themselves gods? They themselves are not gods!
This is an incredibly helpful video. Thankyou sir.
Thanks, Tyler!
Helpful for what?
There actually is NO sacrifice for “intentional” sins. The sin sacrifices were for “unintentional” sins. All sins are different, and have different consequences, and Not all sins are worthy of death. But if a man remains in his crookedness and doesn’t turn from his evil ways, he will pay the consequences, sometimes that punishment is death. For “intentional” sins, the ONLY way to atone is through reconciliation. We reconcile through repentance and doing what is right in God’s eyes.
Yom Kippur is known as the most sanctified day of the year. In ancient times, the Bible tells us that the sins of Israel are SPOKEN over the goat; and then, the goat is NOT sacrificed, but the goat is SET FREE. Some call this the “scapegoat.” What a beautiful picture of God forgiving us for our sins and casting our sins away! This is truly a special day that we are instructed to remember forever. But it’s not the only day that our sins can be forgiven. Our sins can be forgiven any day and from any place in the world, but the sacrifices could only be performed in the chosen place.
If you recall that God made a special covenant with the tribe of Levi. Levi would be God’s ministers and the teachers of the Law. All other 11 tribes were given an inheritance of LAND; however, Levi was given a different inheritance. God made a special covenant with Levi that they’d be His ministers and the teachers of the Law. And within the Levites, only the sons of AARON were allowed to be priests. This was an everlasting covenant. God caused Aaron’s rod to bud as a sign for the one whom He’d chosen to be priests. Then, God instructed that Aaron’s budded rod be placed in the ark of the covenant as an everlasting reminder that only the sons of Aaron were His priests.
The FATHER’s tribe determines the tribe of the child. Jesus wasn’t a descendant of Aaron. Therefore, he can’t be a priest. Actually, Jesus never claimed to be a priest…This would be a sin. The author of Hebrews is counseling rebellion against God and His Torah and adding to Jesus’ testimony.
The only way our sins can be atoned for is through our own merit. We are justified by our works and not by faith alone..Faith without works is dead. The author of Hebrews is abolishing the Law of Moses. This is lawlessness and it is a sin worthy of death according to the Law. He’s adding and taking away from what Moses wrote. He’s teaching doctrine contrary to the testimony of Jesus.
The new covenant is NOT new laws. Creating new laws or abolishing old laws is a sin (see Deuteronomy 4:2 & 12:32.) Nothing can change. The NEW covenant is “TORAH” written on Israel’s heart”(see Jeremiah 31:31-34 & Ezekiel 36:26-27). New covenant just has better promises. When this happens, we will no longer need to make disciples or teach others to know YHVH, because we will all know Him and will obey all of His Torah.” The new covenant is foreshadowed in the Torah itself. We are commanded to circumcise our hearts, and in Torah, God says that His people will rebel against Him, but eventually they’ll turn back, and He will forgive and He will circumcise our hearts for us so that we will never walk away from his Torah again.
Interesting! How did you come to your conclusion about intentional sins? You mentioned the scapegoat which is not sacrificed. But Yom Kippur includes another goat which _is_ sacrificed as a sin offering. And a bull is also sacrificed for sin.
“Aaron shall offer the bull as a sin offering for himself and shall make atonement for himself and for his house. Then he shall take the two goats and set them before the Lord at the entrance of the tent of meeting. And Aaron shall cast lots over the two goats, one lot for the Lord and the other lot for Azazel. And Aaron shall present the goat on which the lot fell for the Lord and use it as a sin offering, but the goat on which the lot fell for Azazel shall be presented alive before the Lord to make atonement over it, that it may be sent away into the wilderness to Azazel." (Lev 16:6-10).
Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots You’re correct. In the Torah, there are sacrifices and offerings for different things. For verses about sacrifices brought for “unintentional”sins, we can read about this in Leviticus chapter 4.
So, yes, the priests do make sacrifices for their own sins and to cleanse the holy place. Often, God’s people fail to recognize their sins, or they fail to confess their sins, and these “failures” effect God’s people as a whole, and these sins that are unconfessed, or are not repented, make us spiritually sick.
Man is sinful, but through God’s mercy and lovingkindness, He gives many, many chances. “Yom Kippur” is the most sanctified day of the year. This is a day in which we “afflict our souls.” We do deep self-reflection, confess our sins, pour out our hearts to God, and we make sincere repentance and restitution for God and our fellow man who we’ve wronged. We do this every year to recommit ourselves to live according to God’s commandments. And with the ritual of the scapegoat, it’s a reminder that sacrifices aren’t required and that God still casts our sins away, never to be seen again.
No sacrifice is needed for the door to be opened to God. The circumcision of our hearts in order to love His Torah and the confession of our lips for our sins is all that’s required for the door to be opened. “For You do not delight in sacrifice, otherwise I would give it; You do not take pleasure in burnt offering. The sacrifices of God are a broken spirit; A broken and a contrite heart, God, You will not despise.”
Sacrifice for sin is the least effective means to forgive sins. The most effective means is to have a heart that mourns over our sin and turns back to His ways.
BUT, we must understand that Torah is His way. We must return to His ways, because this is what’s required.
When many people read the Hebrew Scriptures and see all the texts about slaughtering and blood, they are offended. It can seem pretty gruesome. But in an agricultural society, it wasn’t offensive. Since the Levites had NO land inheritance, the offerings and sacrifices (most) were their food, it was their inheritance. God ordained it this way so that the common people would take care of their religious leaders. The sacrifices and offerings were also the food for the widows, orphans, and strangers in the land. YHVH has deep, deep love for the widows, orphans, and strangers. If we oppress them, or don’t take care of their needs, it’s a sin. We were strangers in Egypt, and we were oppressed, and YHVH heard our cries and rescued us. We are to do the same for those less fortunate among us.
According to the Bible, Sacrifices and offerings may ONLY be brought when there is an Levitical priesthood and when a chosen place is standing, whether it’s the Tent of Meeting or Temple. Otherwise, they are FORBIDDEN. Remember, God is sovereign. He wouldn’t set up a system of atonement in which His people didn’t have access to. Our prophets confirm that sacrifices for the forgiveness of sins isn’t required. Praise God!
We all have access to God, no matter where we are. We all have access to God and no mediator is needed, no priest, NO MESSIAH, no saints, nobody…we all go straight to God in confession and repentance and praise and with our petitions, just like all of our patriarchs did. Nothing has changed.
@@AbrahamsBridges Agreed! You stated that very well. I also would like to compliment your comments by pointing out that God didn’t require sacrifices outside of the land of Israel. We can see this truth illustrated in the previous two Jewish exiles. God accepted their repentance, without sacrifices while we were in Egypt and in Babylon. Furthermore, we can see that the prophet Jonah told Nineveh to repent for their sins or God would would bring his wrath. No mention of a sacrifice as a condition, nor did they bring forth a sacrifice. God had to honor his promise of life and death through repentance found in the Law. Shalom!
Thank you, the way this is explained is very easy to understand
I learned a lot today... excellent 👍
Isaiah 45:7
King James Version
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
Isaiah 45:7, ESV, "I form light and create darkness; I make well-being and create calamity; I am the Lord, who does all these things."
6 That they may know from the rising of the sun, and from the west, that there is none beside me. I am the LORD, and there is none else.
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
8 Drop down, ye heavens, from above, and let the skies pour down righteousness: let the earth open, and let them bring forth salvation, and let righteousness spring up together; I the LORD have created it. 1611 KJV This was before the Christian church decided to change the words of God. @@TheBiblicalRoots
Hi rob this limited view on atonement is a bigger discussion.the altar need to be atoned for the temple needed to be atoned for did the altar and temple sin no.when Ex19 God mentions. Kingdom ex 20 gives instructions for that kingdom. Love God love your neighbor.it’s a covenant of love.then gives instructions for a temple that God may dwell with them.then give the instructions on how to keep the temple unpolluted,no unclean animals don’t offer them don’t eat them as to enter sacred space .this was done to protect Gods house because we want God to continue to stay. The sacrifices we for unintentional sin read lev ch 4 and 5. And this was to cleanse for ritual impurity again keeping Gods house clean . So the worshipper can enter Gods sacred space and .not pollute it .numbers 6 about the man that violated the sabbath was stoned .why could he not offer a bull for his sin. Because it was intentional .bigger disscusion which can only be understood by reading Torah …shalom
I’ve told him the same thing…….ego blocks the function of the ears!
Shalom
Hey Rob! My name is Diego and unfortunately we had a false teacher come into our church and cause division on this very believe system, “torahsim”. They even convinced my father to follow it and he was the very one who taught me from the beginning the Christ was the way. Not by works. I’ve tried to win him back for the Lord, but when thing I was always noticed that he argues is that the Bible we use such as the King James Version is not viable and was changed by the Roman’s and so on. So they use a different type of Bible. I forgot what the name was. But what I’m asking is how do you present a good argument against this. Thank you! I’ve learned a lot from your videos!
I'm sorry to hear that you have to deal with that, Diego. How frustrating! I would be curious to know what translation they use and why they believe it is better than the mainstream translations we use today. With Torah-keepers, there are often a lot of unsubstantiated conspiracy theories. Sometimes it helps to press them for details to see if there is any reasonable justification for what they're saying. Blessings, Rob
There is NO sacrifice for an intentional sins!
Sure, in modern Judaism, prayer, repentance, and good deeds are said to replace the sacrifices as a means of atonement. And interestingly, there no longer seems to be much urgency to rebuild the temple. Nor does there seem to be a reason to since prayer, repentance, and good deeds are now accepted as substitutes for the YHWH's commandments.
The fact is the Torah _does_ require blood sacrifice to atone for intentional sin. For example, Lev 6:2 says that fraud, lying, and even theft are to be atoned for by repentance, restitution, and blood sacrifice. Also, Lev 5:1 (still speaking of the sin offering) mentions a failure to rescue an innocent plaintiff with truthful testimony and 5:4 mentions the violation of rash oaths as forgivable under the rules of the sin offering. And more than that, not all of the types of sacrifice are said to be limited to unintentional sin. Burnt offerings are said to “make atonement” (Lev 1:4). And offerings for the festivals (e.g., Passover and Yom Kippur) certainly have an atoning effect. And the sin of the “high hand” is for the very intentional sin of “despising” God’s commands in a defiant and blasphemous manner.
@@TheBiblicalRoots
Your reply’s are scary……….and totally ignorant.
1. If you think humans will built the temple…….you are not reading.
2. If prayer, repentance and good deeds replaced the sacrifice of animals after the fall of the temple…..why would you ever need Jesit…..you are not reading.
Please give the Jewish scripture that says that prayer, repentance and good deeds…..replaces commandments…….
Please answer this….!?!? Even though I know why you didn’t give a verses that prove what you told this person…..because you can’t.
Professor your answers are becoming sloppy to one’s who study the Jewish scripture daily.
Please keep reading!
You are correct!
His reply is false, hence why he didn’t give a verse for his opinions.
If he knows that a blood sacrifice was never for atoning for sin…….he would never need Jesit in his life.
Christianity is pure idolatry, the book of Esau!
I agree. It’s also important to point out that you are only held accountable to sins you know you committed. Once you know of your sin the first requirement is to repent This is not a confessional with your priest, or a desperate plea to Jesus, but a command to make it right with the one you sinned against. Only after confession and restitution have been completed are you allowed to bring a sacrifice.
Some sacrifices had nothing to do with sin at all but were for things like menstrual cycles, or burying the dead etc.
Some sacrifices had absolutely nothing to do with death or blood . Like incense, or bowl offerings.
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Leviticus 5:17
“If anyone sins and does what is forbidden in any of the LORD’s commands, even though they do not know it, they are guilty and will be held responsible.
Ecclesiastes 11:9
You who are young, be happy while you are young, and let your heart give you joy in the days of your youth. Follow the ways of your heart and whatever your eyes see, but know that for all these things God will bring you into judgment.
Ecclesiastes 12:14
For God will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.
Proverbs 7:2
keep my commandments and live; keep my teaching as the apple of your eye;
Proverbs 4:4
he taught me and said, "Let your heart lay hold of my words; keep my commands and you will live.
Exodus 20:6
But showing steadfast love to thousands of those who love me and keep my commandments.
Deuteronomy 10:12-13
“And now, Israel, what does the Lord your God require of you, but to fear the Lord your God, to walk in all his ways, to love him, to serve the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, and to keep the commandments and statutes of the Lord, which I am commanding you today for your good?
Ecclesiastes 12:13
The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.
Exodus 15:26
Saying, “If you will diligently listen to the voice of the Lord your God, and do that which is right in his eyes, and give ear to his commandments and keep all his statutes, I will put none of the diseases on you that I put on the Egyptians, for I am the Lord, your healer.”
Deuteronomy 5:29
Oh that they had such a mind as this always, to fear me and to keep all my commandments, that it might go well with them and with their descendants forever!
Deuteronomy 4:40
Therefore you shall keep his statutes and his commandments, which I command you today, that it may go well with you and with your children after you, and that you may prolong your days in the land that the Lord your God is giving you for all time.”
Psalms 119:172
My tongue will sing of your word, for all your commandments are right.
Psalms 119:151
But you are near, O LORD, and all your commandments are true.
Psalm 119:142
Your righteousness is everlasting and Your law is true.
Psalm 119:150
Those who follow after wickedness draw near; they are far from Your law.
Another good video.
Have you covered the epistle of 1 John and Torahism's proof texting of it? It strikes me as staving off a proto-Gnosticism, defiantly not how Torahism uses that letter.
And also because you brought up eschatology 2 Peter 3:16 is one verse Torah promoters like to use to say we get Paul's words wrong. But why would Peter in the middle of talking about The Day of the Lord suddenly interject with the idea that people misunderstand Paul generally instead of specifically Paul's eschatology? Do you know anything about early false teachings on eschatology? Any insight would be most helpful.
Thanks, Rocketman! I've not looked much into early false eschatological teachings in the Church. But I've often heard "Torah-keeping" Christians quote 2 Pet 3:16 when trying to reject the traditional understanding of Paul's teachings. Which, as you pointed out, is a misapplication of that verse. ~Rob
@Rocketman..........The Johannine Logos ( Gordon H. Clark)
Not that John was unaware of the philosophical use of the word. Gnosticism flourished in the second century. By implication it mush have appeared in some form in the first century. Evidence from the New Testament itself ( Ephesians, Colossians, and the epistles of John) corroborates this inference. This situation may help to explain why John wrote his Prologue. If we suppose that Gnostic ideas were growing in popularity before A.D 90, it seems reasonable that a Christian author, not to say an apostle, might warn his readers against false views of the Logos. There were such false views.
But there is some Old Testament background as well. When the Jewish scholars in Alexandria about 200 B.C. translated the Old Testament into Greek, they had to decide how to speak of the word of God. The Hebrew root is DBR. What Greek word should be used for " word"? From Genesis to Ruth the Jewish translators preferred the Greek word " rheema". In the prophets, however, the Alexandrian translators preferred "Logos". Hence even from the standpoint of the Jewish background, John had reason to use this term; but the way he used it in the Prologue can, I believe, best be explained as a denial of pagan religions.
My understanding is that when they ate of the tree of good and evil, they lost eternal salvation. Meaning their souls would die. Fear the one who can kill the body and the soul. In a very old Bible I have, it says repeatedly they died by death. Yah does not mislead or speak in generalities. By disobeying Yah, they lost their salvation. More commonly known as the second death.
Don't you think God knew they would eat of the tree of good and evil, and it was his plan to give all of us the chance to live by his commandments, or use our free will to go against him, we all pay for our own sins but if we repent and change our ways God forgives us, we don't need anybody to die for our sins, we just have to repent and mean it, Adam and Eve showed us we have a choice, and if we choose wrong we pay for it.
@@richardbluett958 What about eternal life? You can't pay that price for sin with your own death and still live...
@@robinq5511 You don't read the old testament or you would know that nobody can die for our sin, Ezekiel 18. 20 The soul that sins, it shall die; a son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, and a father shall not bear the iniquity of the son; the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself.
21 And if the wicked man repent of all his sins that he has committed and keeps all My laws and executes justice and righteousness, he shall surely live, he shall not die.
22 All his transgressions that he has committed shall not be remembered regarding him: through his righteousness that he has done he shall live.
23 Do I desire the death of the wicked? says the Lord God. Is it not rather in his repenting of his ways that he may live?
24 And when the righteous repents of his righteousness and does wrong and does like all the abominations that the wicked man did, shall he live? All his righteous deeds that he has done shall not be remembered; in his treachery that he has perpetrated and in his sin that he has sinned, in them shall he die.
25 Yet you say, 'The way of the Lord is not right!' Hear now, O house of Israel: Is it My way that is not right? Is it not rather your ways that are not right?
That is God speaking to Jews and Gentiles, so your Jesus died in vain, he could not die for our sins.
@@robinq5511 Deuteronomy 24:16; New International Version
Parents are not to be put to death for their children, nor children put to death for their parents; each will die for their own sin.
King James Bible
The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: every man shall be put to death for his own sin.
New American Standard Bible
“Fathers shall not be put to death for their sons, nor shall sons be put to death for their fathers; everyone shall be put to death for his own sin alone.
All the bibles say the same thing, Jesus could not die for our sin.
@@richardbluett958 Which is why you shouldn't pull a verse out of its context. This was a law given to MEN not to God:
xo 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.
Exo 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
Exo 20:5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Exo 20:6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my commandments.
THE OLD COVENANT MADE OBSOLETE AS A MEANS OF SALVATION OR ATTAINING RIGHTEOUSNESS IN GOD'S SIGHT!
The Law “KILLS” (2 Cor. 3:6)
We are “dead” to it (Rom. 7:4)
The Law is “WEAK” and “unprofitable” (Heb. 7:18)
The Law was “AGAINST US” “contrary to us” (Col. 2:14)
The Law is “the LETTER…written and engraved IN STONES” (the 10 commandments) (2 Cor. 3:7)
The Law was “BLOTTED OUT” (Col. 2:14)
The Law was "TAKEN OUT OF OUR WAY"! (Col. 2:14)
The Law is “decaying and waxing old, ready to vanish away” (Heb. 8:13)
The Law was “our school teacher to bring us to Christ” (Gal. 3:24)
The Law has been “ABOLISHED” (2 Cor. 3:13)
The Law has been “ANNULLED” (Heb. 7:18)
The Law was fulfilled by Christ- "It is FINISHED!"
The Law was “NAILED TO THE CROSS” (Col. 2:14)
John Gill, a Hebrew Christian commentator wrote “this is true of the whole law of Moses…the abolition of it is owing to the cross of Christ; where and when He bore the curse and penalty of the law for his people, as well as answered all the types and shadows of it (John Gill’s Commentary)
Great line of logic. Great video. 👍
THanks, Riley!
Please explain the logic here?
There is no logical connection between the NT and the Jewish Tanakh?
Great Teaching Rob, I love watching your Videos! You Can’t teach Narcissists and Jesus Didn’t waste his time on those whom rejected coming to him that they might be saved. You can only lead a “Jackass” to the Water of Life, but you can’t force him to drink from it. They are blind guides leading the blind!
I am glad I found your videos. I have relatives who are HRM and they condemn christianity and say we must follow Torah because Jesus is coming again to separate the sheep (those who follow Torah) and goats (those who do NOT follow Torah), and they condemn those who celebrate the Birth of our LORD and HIS Death and Resurrection! and they condemn those who go to church on Sunday!
I'm glad you found them, too, Kathy!
Blessings, Rob
If Jesus or Paul taught against the law or it’s permanence they would be a false prophet by Gods own admission in the Torah when he gave it.
John 14:15 - If you love me, obey my Commandments
John 12:49 - I have not spoken on My own, but the Father who sent Me has commanded Me what to say and how to say it.
Matthew 5:17 through 19 - 17Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets. I have not come to abolish them, but to fulfill them. 18For I tell you truly, until heaven and earth pass away, not a single jot, not a stroke of a pen, will disappear from the Law until everything is accomplished. 19So then, whoever breaks one of the least of these commandments and teaches others to do likewise will be called least in the kingdom of heaven; but whoever practices and teaches them will be called great in the kingdom of heaven
Matthew 7:22 and 23 - 22Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you; depart from Me, you workers of lawlessness!’
Colossians 2:8 - See to it that no one takes you captive through philosophy and empty deception, which are based on human tradition and the spiritual forces of the world rather than on Christ.
Ecclesiastes 12:13 and 14 - 13Let us hear the conclusion of the whole matter: Fear God and keep His commandments, for this is the whole duty of man. 14For God will bring every work into judgment, including every secret thing, whether it is good or whether it is evil.
2 Peter 3:15 and 16 - 15Consider also that our Lord’s patience brings salvation, just as our beloved brother Paul also wrote you with the wisdom God gave him. 16He writes this way in all his letters, speaking in them about such matters. Some parts of his letters are hard to understand, which ignorant and unstable people distort, as they do the rest of the Scriptures, to their own destruction. 17Therefore, beloved, since you already know these things, be on your guard so that you will not be carried away by the error of the lawless and fall from your secure standing.
Acts 24: 14 "But this I do admit to you: I worship the God of our fathers in accordance with the Way (which they call a sect). I continue to believe everything that accords with the Torah and everything written in the Prophets.
Romans 3:31 - Do we then nullify the Law through faith? May it never be! On the contrary, we establish the Law....
you must be a seven day Adventist? we Christians keep the law the all 9 commandments by love not by works, and another thing we also obey the tenth which is the Sabbath? but not the way the Adventists do? our Sabbath is in Christ, because he is our Sabbath , and we have our rest in Jesus, that means we can worship him any day of the week. for the simple reason that has accomplished all things on the cross God bless
The misstake Prof. Solberg does is not to see the unity of the whole Bible. Christian today keep 204 commanments without to think about it, which show that the laws and statures is put into the believers heart, which was the Goal of the Torah. Some Christians keep 275 commandments. Jews keep as a group keep somewhat 290 commandments. Just now there is no Temple but it will be built yet again in order to teach about the meaning of sacrifice. The back into Israel alla the 613 commandments will yet again be fulfilled. But no gentile has the calling to keep the commandment. The Torah is given to the Jews and this rule is still valid. Christian has Jesus, so his sacrifice is for the gentile. But even Jews who has become Christians has still the calling to live as Jews. This is a command.
Would it be more accurate to say that Jesus shed his own blood for all sinners, rather than all believers? Through his shed blood and death on the cross, all sinners are forgiven. In turn, our free will decision to believe that Jesus is the Son of God makes us believers. Our sins were already forgiven before we believed.
Which of the Torah commands do you have a problem with? The prohibition of sleeping with livestock or the cross dressing?
Hey, Bawb! I have a problem with zero of the Torah commands. Shalom, Rob
Knowing that Yahushua - Jesus die for our Sins Once and for all, Do we keep Sinning (Breaking God's Law 1John3v4)that Grace may abound, may it never be. Rom 3v31 We Establish the Law. Something doesn't fit Here?
Hi, Karl! You may find this video I made helpful: *How do Christians uphold the law? A bible study on Romans 3:31* ua-cam.com/video/X8on5zSXv0Q/v-deo.html.
Shalom,
Rob
Christianity cannot hold the commandments of Moses.
It’s for the Jews as scripture says.
Or be Noahide, a journey to Judaism.
Why didn't the sprinkle the blood of Jesus on the alter to make it a real sacrifice to God, and Jesus was not without blemish because he had been whipped and wore a crown of thorns on his head, and where in the O.T. Does God say I will send my son to die for our sins, Just curious.
Hi Richard. I see you take a hard, literal stance on these issues. Respectfully, that's not a biblcal approach, even when reading the Tanakh. And especially regarding prophecy. (Look at all the metaphor and imagery in Isaiah!) Jesus was not a literal animal sacrifice. Those animal sacrifices were actually only given as a reminder of sin, as a shadow that pointed to Ultimate Sacrifice (Heb 10). Jesus was "without blemish" in terms of sin. As far as predicting His death, we see it hinted at as far back as Gen 3:15. Abraham's near-sacrifice of Isaac was also a foreshadowing of it. (In fact, Jesus was sacrificed on that same hill.) And the death and resurrection was explained explicitly in Isaiah 53.
Blessings, Rob
That's some good news!
Amen, Seth!
Why is that good news….?
If Christianity is correct, no prob…..say they name before dying and the Jews are good……
However, if the Jews are correct………man……….should of listened.
Keeping Torah can't save you, but death and Resurrection Yahushua Hamashiyach by blood. Rom 6v1 Do we Sinning that Grace may abound, Yah Forbid. 1John 3v4 breaking the Torah-Law.
Hi, Karl. You’ve got me curious. If sin is defined as the breaking of the Law of Moses-which is what you are saying about 1 John 3:4-then how can Scripture tell us that Adam and Eve sinned? Which mitzvah of the Mosaic Law did they break?
@@TheBiblicalRoots torah means "instructions". It is a standard of righteousness that had never changed. Adam and Eve did disobey God's instructions... that was sin.
Paul's letter to the Roman's tells us the instructions given at mount Sinai were added because of transgressions.... transgression of what??? His standard of righteousness... people sinned (violated God's standard of righteousness) before it was even given at mount Sinai.
Heres a good anology:
As a parent, you have a standard of how you want your child to be raised. However, when they are a toddler they are very ignorant to many of the things they could possibly do as an older kid or a teenager... theres no need to give them all of the household rules at two, nor rules about driving a car when they are 10.
However, as your child gets older and goes about their life, things come up that become relevant and need to be addressed.
So it was with God's people. We see the patriarchs all transgress the God's standard of righteousness given later at mount Sinai. We see those things clearly addressed so no body would be ignorant to those things any longer.
I hope this brings clarity to your understanding of the purpose of God's instructions.
@@krissysedlak7490 Exactly, Krissy. Thank you! This is the concept I outlined in my video *The unchanging law of God* ua-cam.com/video/YqpcV0AGPPM/v-deo.html
Shalom,
Rob
nobody argues that the law saves us or cleanses us.
the law is how a child of God born of the spirit should live. as the spirit of God cannot lead someone to break his laws but to conform and live according to them as new creatures in Christ.
there has to be a definition of right and wrong. and if there is no law, there is no sin because sin is by definition the transgression of the law.
Paul was accused in the book of Acts of teaching against the law and defended himself and sought to prove this false.
why would he do such a thing?
Gods laws are instructions for righteous living. without them, is just lawlessness and Messiah said depart from me workers of lawlessness. i surely dont want to be a worker of lawlessness.
Hey Jacob. The argument isn’t about whether the general Law of God needs to be obeyed, but specifically the Law of Moses that God gave to Israel at Sinai. And even more specifically, are Gentiles required to keep that law. Best, Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots there is no difference between Jew and Gentile. one body one mind, one law. grafted inyo one tree. the body of Messiah is not divided.
Paul and all tge early believers kept the law, so I believe we should want to as well
acts 15 proves gentiles are to keep torah. they literally gave gentiles 4 laws out of torah to start off with. How can you dance around this?
Hi, Pete! The Gentiles were not commanded to keep Sabbath, eat kosher, be circumcised, keep the feasts, and so on. These are the primary identifiers of Torah-keeping and are very easy for a Gentile to learn and adapt. Yet they were given just the four restrictions. So how did you come to the conclusion that they were taught to "keep Torah?"
Shalom,
Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots so you agree gentils were given four commandments straight from the law?
They must be starting out laws, because christs law isnt in that 4.
So theres the 4 given to gentils. Then 2 more for christs law?
So that would be 6 total. Are these 6 the only laws for gentils? Or are there more from the law they must keep?
There must be more than 6 because paul says people partaking in witchcraft have no inheritance in kingdom.
So i guess theres 7 total now?
You see where im going with this. Theres one behavior for jew and gentile. It seems your picking and choosing which laws you are supposed to follow.
Most christians dont even care about not eating strangled meats. Most dont follow that law.
So let me get this straight. Gentiles are not to eat strangled meats. But they can eat unclean ( pig) ?
That makes no sense.
Eat unclean, but make sure its killed properly (not strangled)? That makes no sense
@@TheBiblicalRoots gentils were not commanded to circumcise? Abraham was a gentile.
So yahweh commanded a gentile to circumcise but now he doesnt want gentiles to get circumcised?
That makes no sense.
You need to be responsible and face the facts. And change your stance. Considering your in a teaching position
@@TheBiblicalRoots so in the mellenial kingdom, you being a gentile will be eating pork, but jews and jesus arent?
Jesus and jews are gonna keep shabbot on Saturday, but gentils wont?
Makes no sense.
Acts 15 proves the torah is for gentiles.
Also, you questioned if my understanding of acts 15 was just 4 starting out commandments. Of course, your position agrees with it. If it didnt, ud have to throw away christs law. Which are the two greatest pulled straight from torah.
So technically your stance agrees those 4 are just starting out laws.
@@TheBiblicalRoots zach 14 is prophecy on “ the day of the lord”. Isiah 66 is prophecy on “ the day of the lord”. Ezekiel 40-47 is prophecy on the mellenial kingdom.
Within the scriptures i provided we see yahweh choosing new priests and levites for the temple. Scripture clearly tells us yahwehs feast days continuing in mk.
So according to your position , in the mellenial kingdom, jesus and the jews will partake in feast days? But gentils will not?
Makes no sense.
The commandments are not for dogs
Agreed! The Mosaic commandments were for the Israelites.
RLS
@@TheBiblicalRoots
2 Timothy 3 (KJV)
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⁷ Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
⁸ Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
⁹ But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
NEITHER jew nor greek .... it reads ALL ISRAEL ....shall be saved....the dogs are not:
“For without the commandents are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and idolaters, and whosoever loveth and maketh a lie.”
Revelation 22:15 (KJV)
It defines DOG quite well, happy you agreed!!
Why don't the Hebrew roots folks ever mention the last three words Jesus Christ said on the cross?...Could it be because it debunks their argument?
That’s not true at all.
Because it doesn’t matter what he said!
Another dead man for his sins!
Ezekiel 18:20
@@Pverb623 that’s not a relevant verse
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Ezekiel 18:20
The person who sins is the one who will die. The child will not be punished for the parent’s sins, and the parent will not be punished for the child’s sins. Righteous people will be rewarded for their own righteous behavior, and wicked people will be punished for their own wickedness.
Very relevant……..just a verse that Christians want to devalue………..kind of goes against the ideology of Christianity.
Like…..
Jeremiah 31:33
“This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,” declares the LORD. “I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people.
Still a covenant for the Jews…..same covenant…..just now every Jew will love the Torah and never leave its ways again.
Ezekiel was an understudy if Jeremiah’s…..prophets from prophets only expound the words of Torah and the prophesies of the one before them.
Most Christian’s don’t even know what the origin of the NT is………
Yet Christian’s cannot play Jesit in the beginning……the Torah!
Isaiah 46:10
I declare the end from the beginning, and ancient times from what is still to come. I say, ‘My purpose will stand, and all My good pleasure I will accomplish.’
The Torah is the beginning……so that means the end is in the Torah……so why do we need an alternate ending?
The NT cannot be, it is not in the beginning….therefore it cannot be the end!
The Torah cannot be false, and the NT true, anything true isn’t new, and anything new isn’t true!
Ecclesiastes!
Jesit debunks himself…….but men do!
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And what verse from the Jewish Tanakh isn’t relevant?
That’s like saying…..something God said…..isn’t relevant …………be careful…..or He will make you irrelevant!
Rob......How often does the HRM/ Torahism deny the imputed righteousness of Christ? There is a person defending Zach Bauer on an old video ( Galatians) done by Beginning of Wisdom. This person thinks Jesus only died for the forgiveness of sins. " imputed righteousness" is not in the Bible...and it's only Christianity that believes this.
Paul quoted Gen 15 :6 to say Abraham believed God, and it was counted to him for righteousness."
I know there are many " confused evangelicals" that argue Jesus only died for the forgiveness of sins. Then why did Jesus live an obedient on this earth for 33 years?
If Jesus only died for the forgiveness of sins......you are then back at the starting point in the Garden of Eden. Adam was under a covenant of works. The second Adam, last Adam, was also under the covenant of works.
It is either your righteousness ( and you can't obey the law perfectly, ever) or it is Christ's righteousness.
Amen, Carmen. It's either our righteousness or Yeshua's, and I choose Yeshua.
Blessings,
Rob
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Why? Laziness? Can’t improve?
Why choose to make God in man’s image, instead of man in Gods image?
Jesit has no connection to Torah. Except as a warning, as well as Islam.
What desire is it that you can’t let go of?
@@Pverb623 "But now the righteousness of God has been manifested apart from the law, although the Law and the Prophets bear witness to it-the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ for all who believe. For there is no distinction: for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God, and are justified by his grace as a gift, through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus, whom God put forward as a propitiation by his blood, to be received by faith." Romans 3:21-25
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That verse is a clear lie……and a lack of trust with the creator!
Proverbs 19:7-8
The law of the Lord is perfect, reviving the soul; the testimony of the Lord is sure, making wise the simple; the precepts of the Lord are right, rejoicing the heart; the commandment of the Lord is pure, enlightening the eyes; the fear of the Lord is clean, enduring forever; the rules of the Lord are true, and righteous altogether.
Isaiah 33:22For the Lord is our judge; the Lord is our lawgiver; the Lord is our king; he will save us.
Proverbs 28:4
Those who forsake the law praise the wicked, but those who keep the law strive against them.
Ecclesiastes 12:3
The end of the matter; all has been heard. Fear God and keep his commandments, for this is the whole duty of man.
Joshua 1:8
This Book of the Law shall not depart from your mouth, but you shall meditate on it day and night, so that you may be careful to do according to all that is written in it. For then you will make your way prosperous, and then you will have good success.
Psalms 119:10
With my whole heart I seek you; let me not wander from your commandments!
Deuteronomy 28:1
“And if you faithfully obey the voice of the Lord your God, being careful to do all his commandments that I command you today, the Lord your God will set you high above all the nations of the earth.
Psalms 119:165
Great peace have those who love your law; nothing can make them stumble.
Psalms 119:30
I have chosen the way of faithfulness; I set your commandments before me.
Psalms 103:17-18
But the steadfast love of the Lord is from everlasting to everlasting on those who fear him, and his righteousness to children's children, to those who keep his covenant and remember to do his commandments.
Deuteronomy 39:16
If you obey the commandments of the Lord your God that I command you today, by loving the Lord your God, by walking in his ways, and by keeping his commandments and his statutes and his rules, then you shall live and multiply, and the Lord your God will bless you in the land that you are entering to take possession of it.
Malachi 4:4
“Remember the law of my servant Moses, the statutes and rules that I commanded him at Horeb for all Israel.
Psalms 119:1
Blessed are those whose way is blameless, who walk in the law of the Lord!
Joshua 22:5
Only be very careful to observe the commandment and the law that Moses the servant of the Lord commanded you, to love the Lord your God, and to walk in all his ways and to keep his commandments and to cling to him and to serve him with all your heart and with all your soul.”
Deuteronomy 10:12-13
“And now, Israel, what does the Lord your God require of you, but to fear the Lord your God, to walk in all his ways, to love him, to serve the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul, and to keep the commandments and statutes of the Lord, which I am commanding you today for your good?
The commandments are attached to life, creation……..as the Torah shows the ten utterances, Ten Commandments and ten plagues coincide and are ingrained with everything created.
So commandments cannot be excluded, nor taken away……..add to them and be found a lier.
Law, even in all of society must be fulfilled each and everyday……you break that law…..you serve out what the punishment/corrective training, then you are released , thus re-fulfilling said law. If I didn’t get arrested for said law….then I am fulfilling it….and must do each day!
David loved the commandments, listen to the love of them in psalms 119…….why does Jesit exclaim that the commandments are a wondrous mercy that God gave us…….when David did?
You know the genealogy problem has……..and Jewish laws from Torah that prohibits certain family dynamics to not allow a seat on King David’s seat.
Why believe in Jeremiah 31:31……yet not v.29…..or…….v.32,33,34-37?
And truly the verse you gave……did not answer the question! Not that I don’t except your answer……if the Jewish scripture didn’t refute every verse of the NT……then I would be denying your answer………this way it’s only God refuting it.
The Law is perfect and fortunately for us that same law doesn’t require perfection. It’s such a beautiful thing! Some people feel obligated to obey the law because they believe in God. I feel sorry for them. I believe in God because his Law is so enriching, so fulfilling, so incredibly full of underserved grace and mercy! His Torah is proof of his absolute goodness. How fortunate we are to have his commandments, statutes and ordinances to guide us through this world full of theological stumbling blocks, mystical bunny trails, dogmatic racism, & empty pursuits! There is only one standard for mankind everything else is foolishness. It’s good to be a Yid!
Blood isn’t required to atone for sins. The Christian Bible takes this verse in Leviticus out of context. If you read the verse in context, you will see that it is referring to the consumption of blood. This command is forbidding the consumption of blood. Consuming blood is forbidden. The Bible says that the only purpose of blood is to atone for sins, but blood is NOT required to atone for sins. Many things can atone for sins, such as fine flour, the giving of charity to the poor, prayer, and repentance. Do you believe that the God of Israel would set up by system of atonement that only the rich could use? What if a persons financial state was very poor and he couldn’t afford an animal? Torah teaches that he could bring flour. These sacrifices were the food for their teachers. The Levites had NO land inheritance. they were the ministers of the Lord. Their payment for their services was the privilege to serve and they received food in this manner from the sacrifices. In fact, blood sacrifices were the least effective means of atonement. Blood sacrifice weren’t “required”. What did all the prophets teach? They taught…Return faithless Israel! No sacrifice required! Though your sins are like scarlet, they shall be white as snow. The nations around them poisoned their minds and taught them wrong doctrine. Simply repent…it’s the most effective means to get right with God.
"For the life of the flesh is in the blood, and I have given it for you on the altar to make atonement for your souls, for it is the blood that makes atonement by the life." (Leviticus 17:11)
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I’m aware of the text. However, it’s taken out of context. The context of this verse is to say that consuming blood is forbidden. The only purpose of blood is to atone for sins; However, Blood sacrifice isn’t the ONLY means to atone for sins.
@@AbrahamsBridges 22 In fact, the law requires that nearly everything be cleansed with blood, and without the shedding of blood there is no forgiveness.
23 It was necessary, then, for the copies of the heavenly things to be purified with these sacrifices, but the heavenly things themselves with better sacrifices than these. 24 For Christ did not enter a sanctuary made with human hands that was only a copy of the true one; he entered heaven itself, now to appear for us in God’s presence. 25 Nor did he enter heaven to offer himself again and again, the way the high priest enters the Most Holy Place every year with blood that is not his own. 26 Otherwise Christ would have had to suffer many times since the creation of the world. But he has appeared once for all at the culmination of the ages to do away with sin by the sacrifice of himself. 27 Just as people are destined to die once, and after that to face judgment, 28 so Christ was sacrificed once to take away the sins of many; and he will appear a second time, not to bear sin, but to bring salvation to those who are waiting for him.
Hebrews Ch 9:22 says that : without the Shedding of Blood, there is no forgiveness.
@@heidiranger6106 This isn’t what Torah teaches.
All you've done with this video is make the point of the hebrew roots movement. We don't want to bring back the sacrificial system of the levites. We have the sacrificial system of an older priesthood, Melekhesidic (Christ) is our sacrifice. So this video doesn't disagree with the hebrew roots. And that 3rd temple stuff is far out there. I've been in the hebrew roots over 10 years and I've never heard that one. So yes, this is how any hebrew roots person would interpret the book of Hebrews.
Thanks, Michael. To be clear, are you saying that you do not believe that the Law of Moses needs to be kept today by Christ-followers?
Rob
@@TheBiblicalRoots most Torah followers don’t believe it needs to be kept we do it because the law is good if used correctly. Ask king David.
@@TheBiblicalRoots acts clears this up gentiles dont need to be circumcised or keep anybody else to be saved. But we must keep the faith!
Hi are you Jewish???i am a new subscriber
Shalom, Yakov! I am not Jewish. God made me a Gentile.
@@TheBiblicalRoots Thank you so much 😊 i am a Gentile too.i am from india.
@@yakovmatityahu स्वागत हे! According to my DNA test, I am from India, too. :-) Or at least I am a small part Indian. When I told this to my Indian friends here in Nashville, they said, "We are not surprised. There are 1 billion of us!"
@@TheBiblicalRoots wow thats amazing i am from India and born and brought in india...glad to meet you.
@@yakovmatityahu I am happy to meet you, too, जैकब.
You keep saying "TORAHISM"
But the TORAH is the LAW, in English.
But isn't the TORAH given by YAHUWAH ELOHIM?
If You keep asking the CHRISTIANS to IGNORE the TORAH, meaning IGNORE YAHUWAH ELOHIM all together.
YAHSHUA Hamashiach came to Fulfill the FATHER'S TORAH.
HE did not come to DESTROY it.
But You are asking the CHRISTIANS to basically DESTROY the TORAH in Their HEARTS as to NOT be TORAHIST.
PS: The TORAH is NOT Dangerous, it is You that is DANGEROUS, Chief.
SHALOM
Actually, Erwin, the Hebrew word תּוֹרָה (torah) means “teaching, doctrine, or instruction.” However, the words law and Torah are often used interchangeably. And when the word torah is used to mean “law” it can give a wrong impression and open the door for misinterpretation and confusion. Jewish Rabbi Adin Even-Israel warns that, "To translate Torah as 'law' misses the mark, even though the Bible may be seen as a book containing laws and moral instruction for living. On the other hand, this aspect of instruction-the teaching-is certainly basic to Torah; without it the Torah would be just a monumental work of literature."
For Christians, the Torah (which is a term that refers to the first 5 books of the Bible) is a vital part of our sacred Scripture and should never be ignored or destroyed! The term _Torah-ISM,_ on the other hand, refers to a distorted, unbiblical view of the Torah, and more specifically the Law of Moses. Remember that not every command that God has given applies to every person at all times. Some of His commands were only given for certain people or certain times. And we're each only expected to keep the commands of God that apply to us.
Blessings,
Rob
Christians don’t follow the commandments because they are not Jews nor Noahides…….so they don’t believe that God is one, and only one!
Psalms 50:16
But to the wicked person, God says: “What right have you to recite my laws or take my covenant on your lips?
Why do you ignore scripture professor…?
Isn’t the pursuit of truth, where I you find where your wrong, and adjust accordingly!?!?
Or is denying just easier?
Pride before destruction!