Ethiopian orthodox deacon here. And I am really happy you guys are doing this. As Ethiopian myself I will be happy to help on your journey if anyone come here. My home and my country is open for anyone with good intentions.
Former Rastafari that was born & raised Protestant in the American South here with a question: What does one need to do, or what is the process for becoming an Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Christian? I have long felt a conviction to both become as Orthodox & as Torah-Observant a Christian as I can manage, particularly inviting the sacraments & liturgy back into my spiritual life that was once so vibrant & central to the life of my ancestors.
@@reeferfranklinHello dear , you just go to the nearby orthodox tewahdo church and introduce yourself , tell them your intensions they will guide you all the way , 1st you become catechumen and you will learn about the dogma and all , because you have to believe not only in your heart but also by your head Then there will be baptism , anointment ,holy communion ....and all , this is the highlight But really just go to nearby Church they will be more than happy to guide you
If this channel didn't exist I would have no awareness about any of this stuff. This Universal History/Ethiopia series is top notch, I look forward to more.
"Unknown Empire: The True Story of Mysterious Ethiopia" by Dean Arnold is a must read for all Christians, history buffs, and people interested in human destiny.
loved this conversation. very helpful and revealing of the history of Ethiopia and the ties to Christian faith. I've been so fascinated recently by the Rastafari and their ties to Christianity and Salasie, these videos shed light on some of the principles the Rasta's hold dear. Inspired.
@@ChristIsKingPhilosophy That we are part of a greater storyline. That our current nations and politics are irrelevant in comparison to the history and trajectory Christendom.
We’ve been predisposed to poor narratives with a sterilized form of Christianity. The growing pains in actively including ALL the beautiful chaos of the Christian myth (non-derivative) are real but the slow cultivation of the Story is endlessly rewarding and enchanting. Thank you both for the rehab project. God Bless you both ☦️
Looking forward to you guys covering the Armenian and Coptic Churches as well, got excited at that church of the east teaser in regards to the Chinese and Mongols
Absolutely, Armenia is wild with the whole inventing a written language for the purpose of translating scripture to the vulgar tongue...and the musicality of the Coptic tradition is astounding.
What is wrong with me? Its midnight and im watching video about Ethiopia :D Amazing conversation. I learned so much. Please continue with the series and God bless you both.
My fevered topic of all time "ancient Ethiopia " I knew Alexander has a lot to do with Ethiopia since I was very young and almost forgot about it. Thanks to you guys for refreshing my memory as an adult....love and BIG respect to my brothers in Christos!!!
Pls keep doing more Ethiopia videos! I must say that I was a little more engaged with the first video, but... Honestly I have ADD. It is probably me. 😂 And I still look forward to another one :)
These discussions are amazing. Hopefully you both continue. I have no idea what the difference between orthodox and non orthodox. But I get so much out of these videos!
Someone who was a saint in my own life was taken up to heaven at a young age and I really did feel that it was a “judgment on the world”, like the world failed to live up to the gift of having him here. He was a drunk, but he was also a celibate, a lover, a wise man, known by others as a “Mad Jester King”, he chose to live in destitution and homelessness for many years, a brilliant musician, a poet. He was incredibly kind others living in the street and taught them how to maintain dignity even in tough circumstances. He especially protected women and children who found themselves to be homeless. When I found out he died, it also felt like reality fell apart for me personally, for how could it exist without him? When I first found out that he passed on, I would speak to him nightly. When I ask him why I cannot move past the grief, he says so that I am able to remember what “deep love” is. Now, I no longer speak with him, but I started praying to God instead. So my friend brought me to God through his death. How could someone who brings others to God not be a saint?
What is the symbolism of Constantinople lasting for 1000 years? These are my favorite videos Jonathan has done so far. Love these. Thanks Richard and of course Jonathan, God bless.
Yeah, I Love when you two guys get together. You have an absolute chemistry thewhen you get together in also the other chapters of different to Ethiopia that you've done together. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE: Consider making a saga together, or create a podcast together; you would Rock if you made the Symbolic Channel together. Jonathan, you would bloom much more you channel if you do so. Please consider it!!!!!
There is a book in Ethiopia 🇪🇹 , the book of Alexander called the news of Alexander the Great, it is found in a big monastery and written in Ge’ez and it’s not translated up to now, it talks about Gog-Magog in detail and it also tell about different planets like multiverses in detail and different creatures rather than angles and demons in detail which is so difficult even to understand it till this time. It’s kinda funny to me when the NASA brag about the 🛸 and 👽 this days 😂
I did some research on the Huns for my thesis at St Vlad's. (The Council of Chalcedon occurred during the era of Attila, and the threat he presented to Constantinople was a major motivating factor in trying to settle the doctrinal dispute fomented by Eutyches.) The Huns controlled territory ranging from the North Sea to the Caspian Sea, but it was a loosely organized confederation of various ethnic groups, including a lot of Germans. Gothic was the lingua franca of the Hun's empire. If you want to learn more about the Huns, the book to read is The World of the Huns, by Otto J. Maenchen-Helfen.
the history of the Philippines also has this parallel. During the same year of the protestant reformation in the west in 1521, the light of Christ first shone here through the Spanish missionaries and it unified scattered islands into a whole country
This guy has amazing symbolical intuition and insight + combines that with his historical knowledge. Finally a guy who can outtalk Pageau in a symbolism disgussion and not be totally out of cohersion and accuracy.
Thank you guys! Guys open up #Ethiopia genuinely! It will greatly help fix a very demanding missing link of knowledge and spirit of the world. There is useful truth with #Ethiopia buried under a very little secretive individuals. There is a huge reluctance to give a clear, coherent and full fact about #Ethiopia. Why? 🤔
I’m so happy Christian’s are waking up the importance of unity all Christian’s regardless of denominations. I hope discussions like this will grow and bring more christians together. Amen 🙏🏼
The last king 🤴🏾 is tewodros 1st , it’s talked a lot about him till this days and there are lots of prophesy about him out of biblical too like some written in books and some as local folklore
I might have to subscribe to see if he mentions the Coptic Tau cross on Tory Island. And the Celtic Church contact with the Levant, Egypt and Ethiopia.
In regards to the "sneak peek" you gave us of the upcoming episode on the US, I read an interesting observation someone made: America has often been compared to Rome, symbolically mirroring if not outright repeating events that occurred in Rome. There was an ever-present and occasionally violent conflict in Rome between West and East until the West fell and the East emerged as Byzantine Empire. America has had an ever-present conflict between North and South that at least once has erupted into violence. Therefore, if the US continues down its symbolic path, then Dixieland will become the American Byzantium. I'm not saying that this is an accurate interpretation of the symbolism, just that it's an interesting idea.
The North/South split doesn't exist today, but there is a clear split between urban and rural/suburban. You'll find rural washington, new mexico, ohio, jersey, and texas are all very similar. As are chicago, houston, nyc, seattle, LA, etc.
@@JovialApps there's at least one notable expetion where the North/South split still applies: religion. The South is known as the "Bible Belt" for a reason. Sixty percent or more of the population of each Southern state identifies as extremely religious (with the exception of Florida, but even it has a small majority that identifies as extremely religious). Most Southern Chrisitians are also members of the same denomination, the Southern Baptist Convention. Look up a map of the US by denomiation to get an idea of how strong a grip the SBC has on the South. If the assertation that US is symbolically mirroring Rome is accurate, the SBC may very well mirror the Orthodox Church.
hi Jonathan and Richard I am Ethiopian and married to Irish american and I always wonder why we are so similar. Our son is the best part of the two of us. Do you think there is a connection between Irish people and Ethiopian people? Please let me know if you know any thing. I am currently researching but not seen anything yet. thank you
The discussion around 26:00 regarding the different sons of Noah and the necessity of a European-Semitic alliance against Arabia - could it be part of the reason for America's current relationship with Israel?
What is the best way for a Russian Orthodox American to learn more and discover more about the church traditions in Ethiopia? I would love to visit the country and learn more in depth, but I do not know where to begin. Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated!
Abram Petrovich Hannibal Gannibal A. P. (1696-1781) Sòld into Turkish slàvery, Abram Petrovich Hannibal was brought as a Black servant to Czar Peter I, known as Peter the Great. He became one of the royal favorites, a general-in-chief, and one of the best-educated men in Russia 🇷🇺 in his era. His great-grandson was Alexander Pushkin, the famous Russian writer who later glorified the deeds of his Black ancestor in his book, The Negro of Peter the Great. Hannibal was born on an unknown date around 1696 in the principality of Logon in present-day Cameroon. 🇨🇲 Abducted by a rivàl ethnic group, Hannibal was sòld to Turkish slave traders who brought him to Constantinople in 1703. As an eight-year-old boy he was brought to the court of Peter the Great who adopted him immediately. Being the Czar's godson, Hannibal assumed his name, Petrovich, and became his valet on Peter's various military campaigns and journeys. When the Czar visited France 🇫🇷 in 1716, Hannibal was left behind in Paris to study engineering and mathematics at a military school. Two years later, he joined the French army and fought in the war against Spain. In January 1723, Hannibal finally returned to Russia 🇷🇺 To Hannibal's misery, his protector, Peter the Great, dièd in 1725, leaving the young Black artillery lieutenant dependent upon the royal advisor Prince Menshikov, who, due to his dislike of Hannibal, assigned him first to Siberia and later to the Chinese border where his task was to measure the Great Wall. Hannibal’s fortunes changed in 1741 when Empress Elisabeth took the throne and Hannibal was allowed to officially return from his exile although in fact, he had done so clandestinely in 1731. Five years after his illegal return, he married his second wife Christina Regina von Schöberg, the daughter of a Swedish army captain, who bore him eleven children. One of his sons, Osip, was the grandfather of the poet Alexander Pushkin. Although it had been Hannibal's wish to retire, Empress Elisabeth did not want to abandon him or his engineering skills. He was made military commander of the city of Reval, serving between 1743 and 1751 and by 1760 had been promoted to the rank of a full general. During his military career, he oversaw various projects including part of the expansion of the 73 miles Ladoga Canal near St. Petersburg which linked the Neva and Svir Rivers and Russian fortresses throughout the empire. Abram Petrovich Hannibal died on April 20, 1781, as one of the leading military figures in his country and probably the first outstanding engineer in Russian history. Sources: Hugh Barnes, Gannibal: The Moor of Petersburg (London: Profile Books, 2005); Allison Blakely, Russia and the Negro: Blacks in Russian History and Thought (Washington, D.C.: Howard University Press, 1986); N. K. Teletova, “A.P. Gannibal: On the Occasion of the Three Hundredth Anniversary of the Birth of Alexander Pushkin's Great-Grandfather,” Under the Sky of My Africa: Alexander Pushkin and Blackness, Ed. Catharine Theimer Nepomnyashchy, Nicole Svobodny, and Ludmilla A. Trigos (Evanston, Northwestern University Press, 2006). You can support my page through tipš/dònations on: ko-fi.com/Historicalafrica Guys let's get our Twitter page to 20K followers. Kindly click on the link to follow us on Twitter: twitter.com/historical_Afr
31:16 Hungarians are on a similar position. Some people relate them to the Huns, some to other ethnicities, but the fact is they also came from the East, had a nomadic culture, and were in constant contact and intermingling with other peoples (9% of Hungarian words come from Turkic languages). Two centuries after they settled on the Carpathian Basin and became Christian, around 80% of the Hungarian population was genocided by the Mongols. After that, the Hungarian king invited other peoples to settle in Hungary, most of them Slavs and Germans. By the way, the name Attila is quite common in Hungary nowadays.
I have Hungarian ancestry. As a result, I know, and had it repeated to me numerous times, that they are not descended from the Huns. That’s a misconception due to the similarity of the names. They are Magyar.
@@vaportrails7943 yes, even though nationalistic speech takes a Hunnic ancestry for Hungarians as a given, truth is no one knows for sure who the Huns were anyways.
I can't wait for the discussion on how the US fits into the story. I have a sense there will be some talk about whether or not Christopher Columbus' family were refugees from Constantinople.
@@AJWRAJWR I wasn't making any statement about whether or not Americans are "Almighty." My statement was regarded to their topic of Universal History. They laid out how Troy is related to Rome and how Rome is related Constantinople. The fall of Constantinople is quite possibly one of the primary reasons America was "discovered," not just because of the possibility of Columbus' family being Greek refugees of the city, but also because the trade routes to the far east were shut down so alternative routes were needed which ultimately led to Columbus' voyage. If they wish to talk about about the Ugandans, the Burkinese, or the Philippinos I have no power to stop them even if I did, which I do not. But as an American I have a interest in my nations place in the Universal History, as I would expect of people from other nations.
Prophecy of the King going to Golgotha sound like of this time now, in WW2, Emperor Haile Selassie I went to Jerusalem to pray before going to exile in Britain (Empress Menen made a vow to give Her crown to Church in Jerusalem if Ethiopia was liberated, and She did) ...His Majesty Haile Selassie was last King of Ethiopians and He conquered the "Roman Empire" of Mussolini in WW2....fascinating conversation, thanks
University students that were sent out to Russia to study during that time came back with an idea of building a new socialist/communism regim in Ethiopia and came up with a slogan called "Land to thiller" and managed to convince the whole society including farmers and soldiers so they all turned their backs on the Imperial majesty Haile Selassie I.
@@gamerh1040 they also promoted atheism as being "modern" while holding onto their faith as backwards (hint hint, it was during this era that Protestantism expanded aggressively in Ethiopia). We are still feeling the repercussions that the Derg and TPLF regimes had on the Ethiopian Orthodox Church today.
You spoke of the limits and extremity. Well Africa and Ireland did trade between themselves, and we even have early christian african manuscripts in Ireland. Both of them did a lot of illuminated manuscripts of the Bible at about the same time. From a more "evident" point of view, there was a LOT of monks VERY early on in Ireland, and these ideas came from North Africa and the Middle-East. Both of them have monastery in the middle of chaos (desert in one case, sea in the other; for this see Skellig Michael) and their monastic stories are compared a lot (on that, see "Hermits, Saints, and Snakes: The Archeology of the arly Ethiopian Monastery in a Wider Context"). I remember a monk that went from Africa to Ireland or the other way around, but I can't seem to find it now. I do know some went to Constantinople for books and learning before coming back to Ireland.
Here is what I understood so far: 6:20 „Universal History“ as a theology of history: Every nation is at the periphery by default, before it encounters Christianity. 12:53 Giants, or: how the rift in the human line occurred in the first place: Demonic forces at play. Exploring why there’s a historical rift that needs historical healing to begin with (- from the theological standpoint of this Byzantine „Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius“ from the 7th(?) century, that is dealing with the inside threats (schism) and outside threats (barbarians at the gates), by viewing it through a teleological lens, which means, that there is a theological fate of nations that needs to play out in history. Exploring the concepts: 42:04 freely joining in unity without annulling the multiplicity (UK); in contrast: fusion leads to confusion (Baphomet) 46:52 Holy shit (Lincoln (re)establisher and guarantor of unity) 49:38 more holy shit (schism vs Ethiopia symbolically and in person uniting Macedonians and Romans; well: „mastery“ sounds more like“ superseding“ to me…) 55:51 Ethiopia rectifying the problem of Cain (by story wise bringing together again the human seed lines of the different people so they can be considered saved hereditary or even genetically/ biologically); similarly as Pentecost rectifying the problem of the Tower of Babel (by bringing together the languages of the people thus ending the confusion between the nations) 59:01 Next chapter: How can the all-encompassing fall? Well: In a way it can, but also in a way it can’t… (I assume the actual / temporal church vs the true / ideal / eternal church, which is the endpoint?) 1:00:56 We can embrace the enculturation of Christendom in all nations and feel good about where everybody came from, but ultimately the rise and fall of nations doesn’t matter, until we reach the end-times / the Eschaton. 1:14:57 Recapitulation of what the Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius is reflecting upon: the schism of the non-chalcedonian churches and the rise of Islam with the Arabian conquest. Intuition and Causation
31:50 Attila is derived from Gothic "Atta" this means "father"(Papa) , the "ila" at the end is a "diminutive" but indicating affection so "Attila" means "little-Papa" or "Daddy"... curiously enough spanish still preserves that way of constructing words: Papa-Papito (Atta-Attila) another important Gothic name is "Wulfila" (little-Wolf ) he was the bishop of the Goths, he compiled the "Wulfila bible" the oldest "germanic" document in existance "Our Father" in Gothic: Atta unsar, þu in himinam [Father ours, thy in heaven] weihnai namo þein [Hallowed name thein] qimai þiudinassus þeins, [come kingdom thein] wairþai wilja þeins, [become will thein] swe in himina jah ana airþai. [so in heaven and on earth] Hlaif unsarana þana sinteinan gif uns himma daga["loaf"ours that-is-daily give us this day] jah aflet uns þatei skulans sijaima [and forgive us those that sinful are] swaswe jah weis afletam þaim skulam unsaraim [so-as we forgive those sinful to us] jah ni briggais uns in fraistubnjai, [and don't bring us in temptation] ak lausei uns af þamma ubilin; [but lead us off the evil] unte þeina ist þiudangardi, jah mahts, [for thein is the kingdom, and might] jah wulþus in aiwins AMEN. [and glory in ages, Amen] I've being studying the "rabbit hole" that is Gog and Magog some interesting references: -"Josephus refers to Magog son of Japheth as progenitor of Scythians, or peoples north of the Black Sea. According to him, the Greeks called Scythia " Magogia " (Ant., bk. I, 6)." -"Johannes Magnus (1488-1544) stated that Magog migrated to Scandinavia (via Finland) 88 years after the flood, and that his five sons were Suenno (ancestor of the Swedes), Gethar (or Gog, ancestor of the Goths), Ubbo (who later ruled the Swedes and built Old Uppsala), Thor, and German. Magnus' accounts became accepted at the Swedish court for a long time, and even caused the dynastic numerals of the Swedish monarchs to be renumbered accordingly. Queen Christina of Sweden reckoned herself as number 249 in a list of kings going back to Magog. Magnus also influenced several later historians such as Daniel Juslenius (1676-1752), who derived the roots of the Finns from Magog." - TARTARIA was of old known by the name of SCYTHIA, whose inhabitants were the prosterity of MAGOG, the son of Japhet, called MAGOGINS, afterwards SCYTHES from SCYTHIA their first king. This name also SCYTHIA extended itself into Europe, even unto all regions laying north of Danubins, called also SARMATIA, and SCYTHIA EUROPEA…": archive.org/details/microcosmusorlit00heyl/page/341 -"it was formerly called "Scythia" but now for three hundred years is "Tartary" , people who came out under the "Gran Chingi"(Genghis Kahn), from a canton of Asia called it that way in their Mongol language, who have occupied the domain and have also changed the name, under which it contains (leaving aside Tartary "minor" of which we have spoken in other place) a little less than half of the mainland of Asia..." i.pinimg.com/originals/ae/f0/54/aef0544e585c7865aca8aadc67df8874.jpg
The book of Enoch is found in Ethiopia there has been already a study done. I think you should look into it. It’s interesting all the persecution going on against Ethiopian orthodox right now as we speak it has been going on. Intentionally destroying the Orthodox Church;( I just admire the resilience while been persecuted even the current “Ethiopian government “ is attacking the Orthodox Church with his followers
Ethiopian orthodox deacon here. And I am really happy you guys are doing this. As Ethiopian myself I will be happy to help on your journey if anyone come here. My home and my country is open for anyone with good intentions.
Former Rastafari that was born & raised Protestant in the American South here with a question:
What does one need to do, or what is the process for becoming an Ethiopian Orthodox Tewahedo Christian?
I have long felt a conviction to both become as Orthodox & as Torah-Observant a Christian as I can manage, particularly inviting the sacraments & liturgy back into my spiritual life that was once so vibrant & central to the life of my ancestors.
@@reeferfranklinHello dear , you just go to the nearby orthodox tewahdo church and introduce yourself , tell them your intensions they will guide you all the way ,
1st you become catechumen and you will learn about the dogma and all , because you have to believe not only in your heart but also by your head
Then there will be baptism , anointment ,holy communion ....and all , this is the highlight
But really just go to nearby Church they will be more than happy to guide you
@@reeferfranklinmeet someone from a orthodox tewahado church, it’s easier that way
🙏🏼
The Richard Rohlin eps are probably one of the ones I look forward to the most, here
Same! Like small a Christmas!
Yeah these guys are beast together
agreed
same
Same
I want the Pageau Rohlin podcast. Every other week at least. Call it... Rollin Deep
That would be perfect. They make a very good duo.
If this channel didn't exist I would have no awareness about any of this stuff. This Universal History/Ethiopia series is top notch, I look forward to more.
You two are my favorite teachers ever.
"Unknown Empire: The True Story of Mysterious Ethiopia" by Dean Arnold is a must read for all Christians, history buffs, and people interested in human destiny.
Thanks for the recommendation. Gonna peep this for sure.
It probably has something to do with Prester John, right?
@@klieben9942No
I look forward to when you guys cover the Celtic West.
Indeed. Hopefully the Irish & Welsh mythical cycles, which include folks like St. Patrick and King Arthur
Yessss, we definitely need deep dives in the Celtic Orthodox Church, British Orthodox Church & the Orthodox West altogether.
Two years later... and nothing. Is this guy like a store brand version of Kermit Peterson?
@@notsocrates9529 he's a bit like if Peterson was Christian, though that's an over simplification.
@@jamersbazuka8055 [hands rub] ok
People get excited when you talk about Ethiopia. 😀
loved this conversation. very helpful and revealing of the history of Ethiopia and the ties to Christian faith. I've been so fascinated recently by the Rastafari and their ties to Christianity and Salasie, these videos shed light on some of the principles the Rasta's hold dear. Inspired.
It’s something everyone in Ethiopia would be grateful for. Thank you brothers.
Yes, another video on Ethopia! I love this series.
Keep rohlin' rohlin' rohlin' rohlin'
They hatin'
You have no idea how much I like when you guys discuss universal history. Watching these all twice!!
God bless you guys
Yes! I love this series with Richard!
You both are so amazing mind and keep it up about Ethiopia 💚💛❤️
these discussions are always so insightful
I'm curious, what did you get from them?
Your podcasts are also very thought provoking. ☺
@@ChristIsKingPhilosophy
That we are part of a greater storyline. That our current nations and politics are irrelevant in comparison to the history and trajectory Christendom.
Thanks!
We’ve been predisposed to poor narratives with a sterilized form of Christianity. The growing pains in actively including ALL the beautiful chaos of the Christian myth (non-derivative) are real but the slow cultivation of the Story is endlessly rewarding and enchanting.
Thank you both for the rehab project. God Bless you both ☦️
I am so thankful for discovering Jonathon Pageau and all his friends.Thank you Jesus
You guys are blowing my mind. Please keep it up. So informative and crucial. Thank you.
I love this concept of universal history. Can someone suggest some good readings to get my foot in the door here???
Looking forward to you guys covering the Armenian and Coptic Churches as well, got excited at that church of the east teaser in regards to the Chinese and Mongols
Absolutely, Armenia is wild with the whole inventing a written language for the purpose of translating scripture to the vulgar tongue...and the musicality of the Coptic tradition is astounding.
What is wrong with me? Its midnight and im watching video about Ethiopia :D Amazing conversation. I learned so much. Please continue with the series and God bless you both.
This pair could talk about any topic regarding Universal history and I would eat it up.
My fevered topic of all time "ancient Ethiopia "
I knew Alexander has a lot to do with Ethiopia since I was very young and almost forgot about it. Thanks to you guys for refreshing my memory as an adult....love and BIG respect to my brothers in Christos!!!
Pls keep doing more Ethiopia videos! I must say that I was a little more engaged with the first video, but... Honestly I have ADD. It is probably me. 😂 And I still look forward to another one :)
These are wonderful! Im so glad you guys are doing this
These discussions are amazing. Hopefully you both continue. I have no idea what the difference between orthodox and non orthodox. But I get so much out of these videos!
Love this conversation!! Embodiment!
Someone who was a saint in my own life was taken up to heaven at a young age and I really did feel that it was a “judgment on the world”, like the world failed to live up to the gift of having him here. He was a drunk, but he was also a celibate, a lover, a wise man, known by others as a “Mad Jester King”, he chose to live in destitution and homelessness for many years, a brilliant musician, a poet. He was incredibly kind others living in the street and taught them how to maintain dignity even in tough circumstances. He especially protected women and children who found themselves to be homeless. When I found out he died, it also felt like reality fell apart for me personally, for how could it exist without him? When I first found out that he passed on, I would speak to him nightly. When I ask him why I cannot move past the grief, he says so that I am able to remember what “deep love” is. Now, I no longer speak with him, but I started praying to God instead. So my friend brought me to God through his death. How could someone who brings others to God not be a saint?
I’m sorry about the loss of your friend 😔. Am praying fit your consolation 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️🕊
What is the symbolism of Constantinople lasting for 1000 years? These are my favorite videos Jonathan has done so far. Love these. Thanks Richard and of course Jonathan, God bless.
These discussions with Richard are wonderful. Thanks for all your work Jonathan.
what did you get from this?
Amazing, esp appreciate the chronological flow. Finding that these stories are not merely myths anymore. Helping me understand our past and reality.
1:19:02 Fun fact, Dean Arnold is Jay Dyer's godfather.
Epic
Yeah, I Love when you two guys get together. You have an absolute chemistry thewhen you get together in also the other chapters of different to Ethiopia that you've done together. PLEASE, PLEASE, PLEASE: Consider making a saga together, or create a podcast together; you would Rock if you made the Symbolic Channel together. Jonathan, you would bloom much more you channel if you do so. Please consider it!!!!!
These videos are great. I am excited for them to get to Britain, Arthur, and the symbolism/importance of the modern royal family.
Beautiful. Just Beautiful. Glory to God!
God bless you for the good work you’re doing. Please do a video on the nine Saints 🙏🏽
This is incredible content. And I've seen a few good ones in my lifetime.
Yesss was waiting for this
I really love that talk you guys have about the saints upholding the world
There is a book in Ethiopia 🇪🇹 , the book of Alexander called the news of Alexander the Great, it is found in a big monastery and written in Ge’ez and it’s not translated up to now, it talks about Gog-Magog in detail and it also tell about different planets like multiverses in detail and different creatures rather than angles and demons in detail which is so difficult even to understand it till this time. It’s kinda funny to me when the NASA brag about the 🛸 and 👽 this days 😂
The Book translated from Sabaen to geez to Amharic to English called “Mountain Air Chariot” look it up
@@fyaheart1 thanks i will
@@fyaheart1we never had a language called Sabaean, which basically is named after Queen Saba who spoke Ge’ez. We have enough artifacts to prove it
Thank you Jonathan for the excellent content
I did some research on the Huns for my thesis at St Vlad's. (The Council of Chalcedon occurred during the era of Attila, and the threat he presented to Constantinople was a major motivating factor in trying to settle the doctrinal dispute fomented by Eutyches.) The Huns controlled territory ranging from the North Sea to the Caspian Sea, but it was a loosely organized confederation of various ethnic groups, including a lot of Germans. Gothic was the lingua franca of the Hun's empire.
If you want to learn more about the Huns, the book to read is The World of the Huns, by Otto J. Maenchen-Helfen.
the history of the Philippines also has this parallel. During the same year of the protestant reformation in the west in 1521, the light of Christ first shone here through the Spanish missionaries and it unified scattered islands into a whole country
This guy has amazing symbolical intuition and insight + combines that with his historical knowledge. Finally a guy who can outtalk Pageau in a symbolism disgussion and not be totally out of cohersion and accuracy.
Love these discussions. Keep it up y'all!
Thank you guys! Guys open up #Ethiopia genuinely! It will greatly help fix a very demanding missing link of knowledge and spirit of the world. There is useful truth with #Ethiopia buried under a very little secretive individuals. There is a huge reluctance to give a clear, coherent and full fact about #Ethiopia. Why? 🤔
Love the Cosmic Mountain! Bought the t- shirt ☺
My favorite dynamic duo 💞🙏💫
I’m so happy Christian’s are waking up the importance of unity all Christian’s regardless of denominations.
I hope discussions like this will grow and bring more christians together.
Amen 🙏🏼
Super interesting about Lincoln
i could watch this for 3 hours!
The last king 🤴🏾 is tewodros 1st , it’s talked a lot about him till this days and there are lots of prophesy about him out of biblical too like some written in books and some as local folklore
As long as you guys have something new to tell about Ethiopa, please go ahead! :D
I might have to subscribe to see if he mentions the Coptic Tau cross on Tory Island. And the Celtic Church contact with the Levant, Egypt and Ethiopia.
Great video! Looking foward the next one!
Thank you guys!! I learned so much, very thankful
Please write a book together. I need this stuff in ordered ways.
Interesting!
Great presentation of important history. Thanks. Please spell the name of the mother of Alexander mentioned in the video. Thank you.
So so so excited for this
Such excellent streams, fascinating!! Thank you
You two really keep me glued to the screen. It’s a case of 1+1=3
Luckily I have so much more to watch.
You guys need to do a video about coptic history
In regards to the "sneak peek" you gave us of the upcoming episode on the US, I read an interesting observation someone made: America has often been compared to Rome, symbolically mirroring if not outright repeating events that occurred in Rome. There was an ever-present and occasionally violent conflict in Rome between West and East until the West fell and the East emerged as Byzantine Empire. America has had an ever-present conflict between North and South that at least once has erupted into violence.
Therefore, if the US continues down its symbolic path, then Dixieland will become the American Byzantium.
I'm not saying that this is an accurate interpretation of the symbolism, just that it's an interesting idea.
one can dream...
I've never herd that parallel to Rome like that but I have wondered the same thing about dixieland
The North/South split doesn't exist today, but there is a clear split between urban and rural/suburban. You'll find rural washington, new mexico, ohio, jersey, and texas are all very similar. As are chicago, houston, nyc, seattle, LA, etc.
@@JovialApps sure but the fault lines in a split would still fall between north and south
@@JovialApps there's at least one notable expetion where the North/South split still applies: religion. The South is known as the "Bible Belt" for a reason. Sixty percent or more of the population of each Southern state identifies as extremely religious (with the exception of Florida, but even it has a small majority that identifies as extremely religious). Most Southern Chrisitians are also members of the same denomination, the Southern Baptist Convention. Look up a map of the US by denomiation to get an idea of how strong a grip the SBC has on the South. If the assertation that US is symbolically mirroring Rome is accurate, the SBC may very well mirror the Orthodox Church.
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Why is it being from the sea of Ethiopia so interesting to Jonathan?
Monsters come out of the sea
Also modern day Ethiopia is landlocked, so there would have to be significant developments to allow for the prophecy to take place.
hi Jonathan and Richard I am Ethiopian and married to Irish american and I always wonder why we are so similar. Our son is the best part of the two of us. Do you think there is a connection between Irish people and Ethiopian people? Please let me know if you know any thing. I am currently researching but not seen anything yet. thank you
I think there is.
I can't call out which one but Answers in Genesis., DID mention the Irish & Ethiopia...geez I don't know which tape 😢
The discussion around 26:00 regarding the different sons of Noah and the necessity of a European-Semitic alliance against Arabia - could it be part of the reason for America's current relationship with Israel?
I so love these series keep bring it!
What do you guys think of the Noah movie with Russel Crowe?
Jonathan wrote an article on this: orthodoxartsjournal.org/what-is-missing-from-aronofskys-noah/
This looks like a good conversation.
What is the best way for a Russian Orthodox American to learn more and discover more about the church traditions in Ethiopia? I would love to visit the country and learn more in depth, but I do not know where to begin. Any and all suggestions are greatly appreciated!
Start with the Russian Orthodox Church, they have connections with the Ethiopian Orthodox Church
Abram Petrovich Hannibal Gannibal A. P. (1696-1781)
Sòld into Turkish slàvery, Abram Petrovich Hannibal was brought as a Black servant to Czar Peter I, known as Peter the Great. He became one of the royal favorites, a general-in-chief, and one of the best-educated men in Russia 🇷🇺 in his era. His great-grandson was Alexander Pushkin, the famous Russian writer who later glorified the deeds of his Black ancestor in his book, The Negro of Peter the Great.
Hannibal was born on an unknown date around 1696 in the principality of Logon in present-day Cameroon. 🇨🇲 Abducted by a rivàl ethnic group, Hannibal was sòld to Turkish slave traders who brought him to Constantinople in 1703. As an eight-year-old boy he was brought to the court of Peter the Great who adopted him immediately. Being the Czar's godson, Hannibal assumed his name, Petrovich, and became his valet on Peter's various military campaigns and journeys. When the Czar visited France 🇫🇷 in 1716, Hannibal was left behind in Paris to study engineering and mathematics at a military school. Two years later, he joined the French army and fought in the war against Spain. In January 1723, Hannibal finally returned to Russia 🇷🇺
To Hannibal's misery, his protector, Peter the Great, dièd in 1725, leaving the young Black artillery lieutenant dependent upon the royal advisor Prince Menshikov, who, due to his dislike of Hannibal, assigned him first to Siberia and later to the Chinese border where his task was to measure the Great Wall.
Hannibal’s fortunes changed in 1741 when Empress Elisabeth took the throne and Hannibal was allowed to officially return from his exile although in fact, he had done so clandestinely in 1731. Five years after his illegal return, he married his second wife Christina Regina von Schöberg, the daughter of a Swedish army captain, who bore him eleven children. One of his sons, Osip, was the grandfather of the poet Alexander Pushkin.
Although it had been Hannibal's wish to retire, Empress Elisabeth did not want to abandon him or his engineering skills. He was made military commander of the city of Reval, serving between 1743 and 1751 and by 1760 had been promoted to the rank of a full general. During his military career, he oversaw various projects including part of the expansion of the 73 miles Ladoga Canal near St. Petersburg which linked the Neva and Svir Rivers and Russian fortresses throughout the empire. Abram Petrovich Hannibal died on April 20, 1781, as one of the leading military figures in his country and probably the first outstanding engineer in Russian history.
Sources:
Hugh Barnes, Gannibal: The Moor of Petersburg (London: Profile Books, 2005); Allison Blakely, Russia and the Negro: Blacks in Russian History and Thought (Washington, D.C.: Howard University Press, 1986); N. K. Teletova, “A.P. Gannibal: On the Occasion of the Three Hundredth Anniversary of the Birth of Alexander Pushkin's Great-Grandfather,” Under the Sky of My Africa: Alexander Pushkin and Blackness, Ed. Catharine Theimer Nepomnyashchy, Nicole Svobodny, and Ludmilla A. Trigos (Evanston, Northwestern University Press, 2006).
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It would be easier for u to go to your nearby Ethiopia church and talk with clergy members about the church dogma,tradition & history.
Pls do one video about "Prester John"==> Prist-son-John==> (ቄስ ዮሐንስ) of the Ethiopian!
Thank you! Well done!
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Hungarians are on a similar position. Some people relate them to the Huns, some to other ethnicities, but the fact is they also came from the East, had a nomadic culture, and were in constant contact and intermingling with other peoples (9% of Hungarian words come from Turkic languages). Two centuries after they settled on the Carpathian Basin and became Christian, around 80% of the Hungarian population was genocided by the Mongols. After that, the Hungarian king invited other peoples to settle in Hungary, most of them Slavs and Germans. By the way, the name Attila is quite common in Hungary nowadays.
I have Hungarian ancestry. As a result, I know, and had it repeated to me numerous times, that they are not descended from the Huns. That’s a misconception due to the similarity of the names. They are Magyar.
@@vaportrails7943 yes, even though nationalistic speech takes a Hunnic ancestry for Hungarians as a given, truth is no one knows for sure who the Huns were anyways.
@@gabriellawrence6598 They seem to have disappeared from history before 1000 AD.
I’ve been thinking about the Chinese place in all of this for weeks!!!
Love you guys a lot conversation I want you to cover also prester john
Oeh yes, do one about the Mongols! 👍
The story about the last Roman King sounds much like the story of the Great Monarch of France
"It's a work that is deeply concerned with giants..." Everyone gets excited when we start talking about giants
I'm listening to this on Sunday morning does this count as church.....?
So so good!!!
Thanks
It’s interesting how similar the prophecy of the last Roman emperor is to those of the great French monarch
I can't wait for the discussion on how the US fits into the story. I have a sense there will be some talk about whether or not Christopher Columbus' family were refugees from Constantinople.
..And what about the Ugandans or the Burkinese, or the Philippinos? What make you think the Americans are so almighty?
@@AJWRAJWR I wasn't making any statement about whether or not Americans are "Almighty." My statement was regarded to their topic of Universal History. They laid out how Troy is related to Rome and how Rome is related Constantinople. The fall of Constantinople is quite possibly one of the primary reasons America was "discovered," not just because of the possibility of Columbus' family being Greek refugees of the city, but also because the trade routes to the far east were shut down so alternative routes were needed which ultimately led to Columbus' voyage. If they wish to talk about about the Ugandans, the Burkinese, or the Philippinos I have no power to stop them even if I did, which I do not. But as an American I have a interest in my nations place in the Universal History, as I would expect of people from other nations.
Prophecy of the King going to Golgotha sound like of this time now, in WW2, Emperor Haile Selassie I went to Jerusalem to pray before going to exile in Britain (Empress Menen made a vow to give Her crown to Church in Jerusalem if Ethiopia was liberated, and She did) ...His Majesty Haile Selassie was last King of Ethiopians and He conquered the "Roman Empire" of Mussolini in WW2....fascinating conversation, thanks
Yea I like that. Ethiopia is a crazy union like you said
42:26 what happened in Britain?
Jonathan, WHY did the imperial Ethiopian regime fall ???
University students that were sent out to Russia to study during that time came back with an idea of building a new socialist/communism regim in Ethiopia and came up with a slogan called "Land to thiller" and managed to convince the whole society including farmers and soldiers so they all turned their backs on the Imperial majesty Haile Selassie I.
@@gamerh1040 they also promoted atheism as being "modern" while holding onto their faith as backwards (hint hint, it was during this era that Protestantism expanded aggressively in Ethiopia). We are still feeling the repercussions that the Derg and TPLF regimes had on the Ethiopian Orthodox Church today.
Is there a written commentary available for pseudo-Mathodius?
You spoke of the limits and extremity. Well Africa and Ireland did trade between themselves, and we even have early christian african manuscripts in Ireland. Both of them did a lot of illuminated manuscripts of the Bible at about the same time. From a more "evident" point of view, there was a LOT of monks VERY early on in Ireland, and these ideas came from North Africa and the Middle-East. Both of them have monastery in the middle of chaos (desert in one case, sea in the other; for this see Skellig Michael) and their monastic stories are compared a lot (on that, see "Hermits, Saints, and Snakes: The Archeology of the arly Ethiopian Monastery in a Wider Context"). I remember a monk that went from Africa to Ireland or the other way around, but I can't seem to find it now. I do know some went to Constantinople for books and learning before coming back to Ireland.
Africa is a continent, Ireland is an island nation…
Will you be doing a breakdown of the new show based on Dan Brown's book The Lost Symbol???
Here is what I understood so far:
6:20 „Universal History“ as a theology of history: Every nation is at the periphery by default, before it encounters Christianity.
12:53 Giants, or: how the rift in the human line occurred in the first place: Demonic forces at play. Exploring why there’s a historical rift that needs historical healing to begin with (- from the theological standpoint of this Byzantine „Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius“ from the 7th(?) century, that is dealing with the inside threats (schism) and outside threats (barbarians at the gates), by viewing it through a teleological lens, which means, that there is a theological fate of nations that needs to play out in history.
Exploring the concepts:
42:04 freely joining in unity without annulling the multiplicity (UK); in contrast: fusion leads to confusion (Baphomet)
46:52 Holy shit (Lincoln (re)establisher and guarantor of unity)
49:38 more holy shit (schism vs Ethiopia symbolically and in person uniting Macedonians and Romans; well: „mastery“ sounds more like“ superseding“ to me…)
55:51 Ethiopia rectifying the problem of Cain (by story wise bringing together again the human seed lines of the different people so they can be considered saved hereditary or even genetically/ biologically); similarly as Pentecost rectifying the problem of the Tower of Babel (by bringing together the languages of the people thus ending the confusion between the nations)
59:01 Next chapter: How can the all-encompassing fall? Well: In a way it can, but also in a way it can’t… (I assume the actual / temporal church vs the true / ideal / eternal church, which is the endpoint?)
1:00:56 We can embrace the enculturation of Christendom in all nations and feel good about where everybody came from, but ultimately the rise and fall of nations doesn’t matter, until we reach the end-times / the Eschaton.
1:14:57 Recapitulation of what the Apocalypse of Pseudo-Methodius is reflecting upon: the schism of the non-chalcedonian churches and the rise of Islam with the Arabian conquest.
Intuition and Causation
31:50 Attila is derived from Gothic "Atta" this means "father"(Papa) , the "ila" at the end is a "diminutive" but indicating affection so "Attila" means "little-Papa" or "Daddy"... curiously enough spanish still preserves that way of constructing words: Papa-Papito (Atta-Attila)
another important Gothic name is "Wulfila" (little-Wolf ) he was the bishop of the Goths, he compiled the "Wulfila bible" the oldest "germanic" document in existance
"Our Father" in Gothic:
Atta unsar, þu in himinam [Father ours, thy in heaven]
weihnai namo þein [Hallowed name thein]
qimai þiudinassus þeins, [come kingdom thein]
wairþai wilja þeins, [become will thein]
swe in himina jah ana airþai. [so in heaven and on earth]
Hlaif unsarana þana sinteinan gif uns himma daga["loaf"ours that-is-daily give us this day]
jah aflet uns þatei skulans sijaima [and forgive us those that sinful are]
swaswe jah weis afletam þaim skulam unsaraim [so-as we forgive those sinful to us]
jah ni briggais uns in fraistubnjai, [and don't bring us in temptation]
ak lausei uns af þamma ubilin; [but lead us off the evil]
unte þeina ist þiudangardi, jah mahts, [for thein is the kingdom, and might]
jah wulþus in aiwins AMEN. [and glory in ages, Amen]
I've being studying the "rabbit hole" that is Gog and Magog some interesting references:
-"Josephus refers to Magog son of Japheth as progenitor of Scythians, or peoples north of the Black Sea. According to him, the Greeks called Scythia " Magogia " (Ant., bk. I, 6)."
-"Johannes Magnus (1488-1544) stated that Magog migrated to Scandinavia (via Finland) 88 years after the flood, and that his five sons were Suenno (ancestor of the Swedes), Gethar (or Gog, ancestor of the Goths), Ubbo (who later ruled the Swedes and built Old Uppsala), Thor, and German. Magnus' accounts became accepted at the Swedish court for a long time, and even caused the dynastic numerals of the Swedish monarchs to be renumbered accordingly. Queen Christina of Sweden reckoned herself as number 249 in a list of kings going back to Magog. Magnus also influenced several later historians such as Daniel Juslenius (1676-1752), who derived the roots of the Finns from Magog."
- TARTARIA was of old known by the name of SCYTHIA, whose inhabitants were the prosterity of MAGOG, the son of Japhet, called MAGOGINS, afterwards SCYTHES from SCYTHIA their first king. This name also SCYTHIA extended itself into Europe, even unto all regions laying north of Danubins, called also SARMATIA, and SCYTHIA EUROPEA…": archive.org/details/microcosmusorlit00heyl/page/341
-"it was formerly called "Scythia" but now for three hundred years is "Tartary" , people who came out under the "Gran Chingi"(Genghis Kahn), from a canton of Asia called it that way in their Mongol language, who have occupied the domain and have also changed the name, under which it contains (leaving aside Tartary "minor" of which we have spoken in other place) a little less than half of the mainland of Asia..."
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That's one aspect of it, Germanocentric. Attila could also be from Turkic Attil = universal ruler, or Atlı = horseman
@@apmoy70 Youre right. For example Ataturk father of the turks...Ata.
Would you talk about France?
What is the legend of the naked philosophers?
YESSSSS, he talks about the hard truth.....giants.
The book of Enoch is found in Ethiopia there has been already a study done. I think you should look into it. It’s interesting all the persecution going on against Ethiopian orthodox right now as we speak it has been going on. Intentionally destroying the Orthodox Church;(
I just admire the resilience while been persecuted even the current “Ethiopian government “ is attacking the Orthodox Church with his followers
44:00 it’s as if we’re living in the Freakolympics where the weirdest wins!