DESTROYED WWII KNIFE! - Can we restore it?
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- Опубліковано 31 бер 2022
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Can we repair and restore this old world war 2 treasure? Rust removal, and replacing a leather stacked handle on this knife.
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I made two comments, hit 'reply' and they disappeared !
I have an old knife here and it is in crape condition I’d like to know how much you would charge for me to send it to you to restore for me and turn it in to a video I’ll send photos
@kyle It's actually Cattaraugus 225Q (not 2250). I have one on my desk as I type. I was really excited to see this video pop up! I'm going to send you an email with some pictures shortly; there are a few things that are different than original. Apparently several different companies made knives like this during WWII with KA-BAR naturally being the most famous. My grandfather was in the Merchant Marines and brought back a few interesting things. This knife was one of them. When my dad died last fall I got this knife. I fully intend to continue honor those that came before by continuing to use it.
The second (middle) of the three steel discs rotates 90° and locks the pommel in place on the tang which has two slots on each side. Before you can do that, you have to remove the two nails that go into the leather in order to hold the outer most piece. The end of the tang is not peened over. I cringed watching this.
Now he knows it, but it's too late. The damage is done.
Dexeter,, you are correct sir. I have one just like this. I wish he had done a little more research before he ruined the authenticity of this knife. Orwell what’s done is done. He still did a good job. I love to watch his videos he always does a great job.
Cringed..? I was friggin’ crying!
@@tonybletas431 100%
I have no response but I agree
I knew you'd bring it back to life, Kyle. It looks like something that's been handed down a few generations already is ready for a few more. Great work, my friend! Stay well.
Thanks Michael! I love heirloom pieces!
You got that fixed...and sharp...a reborn ww2...cool
The knife is a Cattaraugus 225Q knife made for the US military quartermasters. Cattaraugus knife company was in Cattaraugus County New York. This robust knife was designed to be a heavy duty knife for opening and resealing crates. The pommel is heavy so it can be used as a hammer.
I’ve got a decent condition one of these with the leather sheath. It’s actually in great shape and an absolute beast of a knife compared to the Kabar
@@ADVlife287 It is beast for sure and considerably heavier than the Ka-Bar as well. Overall, it is one of my favorite heavy duty knives.
That's a myth. People who have done considerable research show thru numbers ordered and photos etc, that, that just doesn't add up
@@robertmoran7024 What is a myth?
@@FreeAmericaChannel That it was made for the Quartermaster Corp for opening and resealing crates, etc.
It was designed and meant to be a combat utility knife in the same vein as the MK2.
Someone over on Blade forums looked at the numbers, and enough were ordered that everyone in the Quartermaster Corp would have two. Other research points to the same. Also read stories of individual marines trading or otherwise acquiring them after breaking the issued mk2
You made a nice job of saving that knife 👍🇬🇧
Hahaha that part at 15:43 got me. Love the reaction "Welp, that's enough of that!" and moves right over to the knife. Beautiful job man. Great looking knife!
Outstanding truly beautiful knife restored
Kyle, Kye Meeks has a restoration video of the same knife from a year ago. He shows how the pummel comes apart.
I had a buddy that got one of those at a sale. The guy had old rail cars full of surplus he’d gotten over the years. The knife was brand new but completely dull. It took a long time to put an edge on it, the steel was so hard. It was years ago before I had any diamond stones. Once I finally got an edge on it the blade held its edge through several hunting seasons. When he wanted it sharpened again it would still shave some hair. Biggest problem with that knife was that once I got an edge on it and he used it he wouldn’t sell it to me.
Love the stacked handle
I have two of those with sheaths, they are great knives for splitting/processing hind quarters of large game or as a survival knife that can process wood or build an emergency shelter. I am always impressed with the edge you get on your knives.
That is a Cattaraugus 225Q combat or "Quartermaster's" knife from WWII. The rear pommel is in 3 parts on purpose. The tang is keyed and the center metal ring on the pommel is key holed. To properly disassemble, you punch out the two nails and then rotate the center disk 90°. Didn't need to be broken and welded... I've worked on one previously. Supposedly the pommel was deliberately built thick and with knurling to double as a "hammer".
If Kyle had known that in time, he'd had done a lot less damage to the blade tang and pommel and possibly had preserved the original knurling. Too bad, really!
I love your videos - try soaking the rusty metal in a rust remover over night before hitting it with a wire wheel or grinder.
I wager that 3 piece pommel had the middle slot rotated 90 degrees or something. so it could grab those slots on the end of the handle. Very weird.
A new lease of life nice tool
Lovely handle
Very cool restoration
Your respect for the blade and its history really stands out in this piece. Keep 'em coming, Mr. Noseworthy.
Thanks Marty!
sincerely hope the owner of that knife appreciate the labour of love that has gone into it. Cheers mate. Cowabunga.
Two thumbs way Up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Fantastic find; one I'd give my eye teeth for!! That knife was most likely produced in the Village of Little Valley, which is the County Seat of Cattaraugus County, in Western, NY. Over the years the company was sold, went bankrupt, emerged from bankruptcy, was incor[orated into other companies, and became the roots of CutCo/KaBar cutlery in Olean, NY, and Case Knives in Bradford, Pa, a mere 20 miles south of Olean; Olean is only 35 miles from Little Valley. I'd love to find one and donate it to the County Museum.
👍 Excellent work!
If that was a military-issued K-Bar it should have been parkerized or a matt-blue... either way, darn fine work, Kyle!
nice restoration
Thanks for such a nice, historically correct resto. on that client's heirloom! As the son of U S Marines of WWII era (yes, mother & dad), I inherited 3 issue blades, from my dad (a career officer), ranging across that many war's vintage that I took on as fixer upper projects. Fortunately, all leather was fit for cleaning and a good soaking w/ neatsfoot oil. None were heavily rusted, so a good buffing w/ 4 ought steel wool, followed by a fine diamond "stone," then AR stone sharpening, and the lot of them are ready for another generation, handles & sheaths intact, as well as significant portions of the original Parkerizing
Again, thank you as well as your client for keeping these mini-history lessons as intact, & original as possible for following generations, it's important.
You're a lucky one inheriting 3 of those old military blades, and sounds like they're in amazing condition..w/sheaths even!! Hopefully whoever you bless with these heirlooms..they understand & appreciate what they are! Thank you for sharing👍
I was just gifted my great grandfather's Cattahargus knife and it needs restoration of the handle and blade.
Quality work man 👍🏻
Superb video
Really good job
Cattaraugus 225Q, My platoon Sgt carried and jumped with one, I carried the same one in DS/DS, still have it.
They were the best knife of WW2, despite the love affair with the MK2(kabar).
If you did some research you would see how the 3 piece pommel and 2 twisted nails fit together
Kyle my father bought home the same knife from WW2 It is called a Quartermaster knife. Untoucched a bit or wear but still razor sharp I think the model is 225Q Enjoy your videos
Yes. Supposedly it had extra thickness to open boxes and that knurled pommel was for driving small nails or clenching them.
I always enjoy your content Kyle and it's nice to see the care you take in restoring such an old relic. Very beautifully done.
Nice work Kyle and well shot video. Enjoyed that thoroughly.
Thank you . Excellent job 👍 . Glad to see your rouge take off across the shop I'm not the only one 👍👍
I love that old knife...😉👌
Like I said before, God given talent! Another beautiful job!
You will need a sand blasting machine for rust removal, nice videos
Kyle you are a true craftsman. If I ever get the opportunity I would love to purchase one of your knives. Great how you bring these rusty treasures back to life.
I can’t believe I didn’t get notified for this one. I’m stoked to watch a new restoration. Take care Kyle, from Alaska. Just a tip from a fellow full time welder. When you were tig welding the tang I’d suggest clamping it again closer to the break point as well so the steel doesn’t bow up or away from you, it’ll save you time and possible bends in the long run. 👍🏻
Excellent!
What an excellent video Kyle. The knife looks fantastic.
I have found your channel recently (I think it was through researching Mora and finding your sharpening videos). I have been binge watching your videos since. It is really almost ASMR craftsmanship, amazing to see how much care you put in your work and your videos.
Great rebuild. Love the character of that well used generational knife
My dad had one of these he got as a kit. He carried it in Korea. I am the youngest of his four sons so when dad passed my oldest brother got the knife and not me. Lol but he does let me see it when I visit him. It was a great knife made out of a. Great price of steel
Cattaraguas 225 Q used by the USMC, and USN. I own a few of my grandfathers, WW2 US Navy Seabee.
Thanks for the information, Christopher! I don't usually have the time to do the research while working in the shop, but I did find that info once I came into the office. Very neat. Glad you own some from your grandfather. I'll thank you for your grandfathers service, since I can't thank him.
Beautiful resto! I may send you one of mine!
I have one also, near perfect condition, from the research i did they were isseud to marines in the South Pacific during ww11
They were made in Cattaraugus NY and the Quartermasters liked them because the thick blade was useful opening wooden crates, and the flat pommel was useful in nailing them back closed. The trick with the pommel (as someone else mentioned) was to drive out the two nails, and then rotate it 90 degrees and the whole thing comes off. You did a great job restoring the knife...thanks.
Absolutely mind blowing skill and processes.... Love your work and appreciate the videos!
I’ve never seen a leather handle made like that! Super cool to watch, such an interesting process. Love the video!!
Finnish puukko knives often have a similar stacked handles, but instead of leather bitch bark is used. Provides a grip akin to cork and is somewhat water and dirt resistant.
I've seen it. You can also check out episodes of forged in the fire where some of them have done it on the show too.
Beautiful restoration!
That's impressive
These knives weren’t assembled with peeled pommels, the pommel itself is rotated 90 degrees locking like a rifle bolt. Nails are then driven into the leather to stop it unlocking.
That's a gorgeous and useful piece of art😍
And yes 17:47 agree 💯💯
Nice job sir 👍🎩🤝
Nice job, great video
Great work Kyle, stunning craftsmanship!!! Always impressive, looking forward to the sheath video. ✌️🙏🏼
Nice job as always, keep up the good work.
Hello, looks very good, but why didnt you try removing the rust with chemicals??
been a sub for many years now. you have out done yourself on this one. amazing sir !!
I have that same blade. One day I'll get it to look like that
Nice, that a WW2 ERA CATTARAUGUS 225Q QUARTERMASTER KNIFE
Hi Kyle, enjoyed that restoration,worked the magic again mate
A 225q quartermaster knife. The cross hatch is for it use as a hammer to close wooden crates after opening.
I'm so looking forward to the making of the sheath!
WWII Quartermaster Knife. I have one in nearly the same shape. It's my next restoration project. Great timing on this video. Watching you beat on the pommel is killing me. The pins c ok me out and the plates rotate to look with the pins keeping it together.
Truly Another Work Of True Craftmanship, Thanks Kyle ! ATB T God Bless
I like how you kept some of the original patina, and especially the Engraved name near the guard, the re-shaping of the blade to reproduce the Point correctly was well done and totally necessary. I have done similar work on knives and Scissors, in the past. I love how well it re-took a great edge, that shows the quality of Blade material back then, even during a war. Great work in restoring this piece of history.
Really enjoyed the video. You do an amazing job!
Awesome restoration!
Watching you make that handle was the best part. I had never seen that before.
This reminds me of a song called “Randal knife”
Great job!
Welding on your dad's equipment really shows that you can handle any size blade.
When you were cutting the handle with a utility knife, it made me want a doner kebab/gyro/shawarma! 😂
Kyle you do nice work, but this made me sad to see you snap off the pommel. Someone else had mentioned the proper way to remove it by removing the pins. I enjoy your stuff but I think you could have done better by not removing the pattern on the end of the pommel. This is not a criticism, but just my observation. Good luck, thanks.
Cheers bud, from GFW I'll be sharing your vids with a few of the b'ys around central for sure. Nice to see a home grown business doing well in these hard times. Take care and best of luck!
Top job
Very nice job Kyle. Really liked the leather stacked handle. I’m thinking it’s all going to add up to another happy client 👍
Thanks Darcy! Leather stack makes for such a nice warm experience when out in the cold and snowy weather
When your buffing wheels spits out your compound that's how you judge when there's enough on the wheel.
Beautiful craftsmanship.
Thanks Matt!
That handle is beautiful!
Kyle you do such great work !!! It's amazing to me how you can take such an old and rusted knife and make it work I'm sure better then new but with didn't lose its originality!! I also didn't know you can burnish leather with leather! Great job Kyle!! Great video as always ! Take care and stay safe my friend!!!
Damn, that knife looks great! Superb skill, sir.
Turned out beautiful.
Just a note, one of those washers on the pummel is actually like a key. It gets twisted 90° to lock in the leather washers and help keep than tight. That's why the tang broke when you tried to hammer it off. Otherwise an outstanding video...
Reminded me of meat stack barbacoa type food on the leather part lol
Kyle, you clearly do nice work. How many client’s work do you take on in a year? I would imagine you have quite a backlog of such requests, along with whatever else you occupy your time with! - Jay
Nice job...
That was VERY pleasant to watch!!! Keep it coming bud!!! ^_^
Great video loved that you left in the shot of the polishing wheel projectile 👏
So satisfying. :)
I suppose that’s one way to do it. I think I would have looked a bit more at those nails on either side of the tang.
Really nice restoration! Those Cattaraugus are some solid knifes, I was surprised by how much even old rusty ones sell for on line.
Looks great your work is awesome
Thanks Marc!
I've seen a few peened pommles like that I assumed they were cut and split to fill the groove as a more secure method
What a nice job of keeping some character but still making a knife to be used and handed down.
Looking forward to seeing the sheath.
Take care Kyle
Hey! Have you ever looked into using chemicals to get rid of some of the rust issues before?
Thanks
Restoring a well used Vintage Puma white hunter would be nice to see and I don't think there is any other videos on doing so anywhere.
What a great restoration. If that knife could only tell us its story!
Kyle, that may be 225q, meaning it's a quartermasters knife, used to open ammo crates, etc, that's possibly why that tip was filled by being driven into the crates n whatever else they needed opened.
9:00 you can still see a crack/gap in the tang
I watch Arab chefs slice up a huge shawerma stack and besides it’s really nice taste it really is satisfying to watch 😇😇
What a wicked knife
Thanks for watching buddy!
I reccomend a dremel tool for these penned out portions.CHeers.