US Combat Cutlery of the 20th Century | HCF
Вставка
- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Become an HCF Patron on Patreon:
( / gurilla47 )
HCF PRESENTS:
A short history of edged weapons used by American forces during the 20th century. Issued items and private purchases, in addition to items being made as combat knives. There were entrenching tools that did double duty as improvised edged weapons.
NJACC Website:
(www.njacc.info/)
SUBSCRIBE HERE FOR MORE: ( / gurilla47 )
INSTAGRAM: ( / gurilla47 )
Thanks for watching! Sound off in the comments below!
Tags
Bolos, Philippine bolo, Filipino bolo, trench knives, commando daggers', KBAR, Randall KNIVES, KNIFE BAYONET, BAYONET KNIFE, knife COMBATIVES, Rex Applegate, Mike Echanis, John Stivers,Fairbane-Sykes, Collins machete, LF&C, Au Lion, Gerber MKI, Gerber MKII, OKC, M3 Trench knife, improvised weapons, fighting knife, pig sticker, fix bayonets, blade bayonet
Just wanted to let you know what a fantastic and informative video you made! I’m more of a small arms guy, but am branching out to blades. After watching this, I definitely have a knowledge baseline to work with! My first piece was a 1904 hospital corps bolo!
Very nice collection. My father as a Marine aviator also had the Western Knife Shark aviator knife, which I carried as a Boy Scout and still have today. Heavy blued blade and leather handle. In addition, another blade that always interested me was the WW2 USMC M1910 Medic Corpsman Bolo Knife, in order to comply with limited offensive weapons, this was a hunk of rounded steel with one sharp edge. It was better suited as a club than a knife. Thanks for sharing, there are so many stories regarding these blades.
My late father made his own Fairbairn Sykes/V-42 from a file and leather washers in WW2 - which I still have. He was an Ordnance officer and actually knew Major (that was his rank then) Rex Applegate. I have my eye on the Fox Fairbairn Sykes (690 steel w/actual edges). For regular use I'm partial to Cold Steel and K-Bar. Not had good luck with Gerber. I had the first or second edition Boker Applegate Fairbairn that was only single edged. It grew legs... I wish Boker still made that exact version because it was, to me anyway, the closest thing to a "one knife" concept - self defense, utility, bushcraft. Enjoyed your video !
i was just the opposite.
my k-bar's broke often ( the tang was too narrow ), and the steel was of poorer quality.
my viet-nam era gerber mark II was a delight.
@@grayman7208 I think gerbers quality might have dropped in more modern times. Their products seem to be chinese made junk these days i have had experience with so i have not bought their knives either, but this just my opinion, and peoples milage may wary
@@lalli8152 perhaps.
i can only speak about the ones i have owned and used.
the ones i owned and used in the 1980'swere high quality, and much better than a k-bar.
Damn well said I myself have not had the best luck with Gerber they are nice just not "robust" enough for my use lol I also favor cold steel and will always have a special place in my heart for the k-bar lol
the old V-42' wasn't part of the fairbrain & Sykes blades
In 1978 I was on bivouac with MWCS 28 at Bogue Field when I decided to sharpen my fellow Marines' cutlery as a pass time. Most Marines in those days objected to "charity" so I charged a nominal fee of $1.00 USD. I sharpened at least one of each of the knives on that table except the silly spike contraption. One 1st Lt. brought me a pristine Gerber Mk II in stainless steel that he had just bought from the PX. It took me an hour of steady work to make that blade shave my arm because stainless resists abrasion. But the look on that Lt.'s face was priceless when I gave him my price.
Great story… DAD was a Marine, 58-67( wounded in nam ended his career) but I inherited his collection of bayonets , knives… Bogue field isn’t far from home… thank you for your time, Semper Fi
At the 9:10 minute mark I have that Airforce pilot knife , same leather handle and sheath dated 1985 ,
I bought it brand new in 1985 and had it ever since .
Where is the Ek and the Western Bowie?
No Case V 42?
I have one 1910 bolo that came with a metal green scabbard
That's based
@@donjuanmckenzie4897 thank you
No you don’t
@@danieloshea3326 I don't know what happened to the original scabbard but I got it like that. There's was a dried leather tab that had the brass wire hanger but it broke off so I sewn on a nylon one with the same hanger. Works well lol
I have a bolo that looks a lot like the early 1900’s bolo. It’s not that old though.
I was told that it’s a British paratrooper survival knife. Maybe from the 1960’s or so.
One of the wooden handle scales has cracked over the years, but it’s still tough as hell on down trees. 😎
In 1975 I started out with a Gerber MKII. Mine had a brown leather scabbard. Shortly I went to a model 14 Randell. Still have it and a later gerber that I carried in my ruck as a backup. I ran ops for the company. Started out in 101st at 17 then went to the company.
Great video. I recently sold my entire collection. I kept the Gerber MK two I carried in Vietnam for a nephew
Thx for the informative video. Beautiful collection. USMC KABAR still my favorite for its balance/ ergonomics. Kydex sheath, your done! ✌ Col. Rex Applegate and Will Faibirn had a nice fighting collaboration and John Ek's commando knife is deluxe!
Have you seen DBK'S video on it
the old M-3' fighting knife had an original leather sheath designated M -6'
I've got 3 different bolos. They're awesome. I have a 1912 m1909, 1911 m1910, and a plumb 1917
That's a amazing collection
@@donavantew8278 thank you
Amazing collection of badassery! Those last blades were back when Gerber made quality stuff...now they're throw-away crap, but I think they're starting to see the light & have recently came out with batter materials and qc..so that's good! Thanks for sharing💪😎👍
06:35
they weren't "junk" ... they did exactly what they were designed to do.
it was meant to be just a "stabber" ... that was the point.
stabbing is the quickest way to dispatch the enemy.
just like early rifle bayonets.
and daggers used by commandos, etc.
they are specialized tools for a specialized job.
in the trenches of ww1 there was not room to get into a knife swinging brawl.
you jump in and begin stabbing.
ww1 was primarily a static war.
so the soldier could have a more specialized knife ...
and it did exactly what it was meant to do ... penetrate heavy clothing in the most
efficient manner.
the reason the government sold them off (just like all their other military equipment)
was because ww1 was so terrible it was supposed to be the "war that ended all war."
(little did we know)
also ... "left hand use" in the military is irrelevant.
90%+ of people are right handed ... the military makes gear for the majority.
the minority have to adapt.
it is the same today.
ww2 was primarily a mobile war.
so ground soldiers carrying equipment preferred to have equipment that can multitask.
thus a knife that can stab and cut developed later.
Wow Chris just another great great video!! With so much amazing info! Can’t thank you enough! Would love to see more
I agree my friend, outstanding demonstration of military cutlery,
Great overview. It seems to omit the Cold Steel SRK (standard issue to SEALs) and the variety of tomahawks that re-emerged during the GWOT.
V-42 combat knife would have been a good item to hear about
CORRECTION! It was "a rolex, a randall, a chevy truck, and a divorce". I was a rebel and didn't get the divorce. Still have the randall, the rolex and a later model truck.
What no v42 fight knife from the first special service force?
Don't own one. wish i did.
Thanks for a fascinating history. I was wondering about the Smatchet Fighting Knife that seems so closely related to the US Bolo design. A relative had one from his time in the Pacific theater during WW II. Like the Fairbain Sykes dagger it was developed by Colonel William Fairbairn for the OSS. Supposedly on a design carried by the Royal Welsh Fusilliers in the WW I. However, since Fairbairn spent many of his formative years in Shanghai it seems more influenced by the Bolo design to me. Were these ever issued to regular US troops or airmen besides the OSS?
The short sword you are alluding to is known in Welsh as a . . . "cledd" . . .
Never understood the concept of knife throwing. I mean unless you get very lucky and do a perfect throw that kills your enemy outright you've just thrown away your weapon. And even if you do kill him... his mates won't be far away. No thanks... if it came down to me and a knife vs the enemy that knife wouldn't leave my hand.
The front pocket 13:12 on the M9 was for a spare Berretta magazine. The problem with that is when the magazine was in the pocket it was next to impossible to undo the retaining snap holding the M9 in the scabbard. Usually the pocket was left empty or used for small items.
I bought a Gerber mark 2 used decades ago and when I was messing with it, The blade flopped out from the handle (No wonder it was 20 bucks). I had a bolo and everyone who looked at it said it's the real deal, Until I looked at a fine stamp, Made in Japan. About the early sixties.
Gerber now has them made in China...
@@nickdannunzio7683 are they any good?
@@dragdragon23 Gerber hasn't made a good knife in decades.
@@lumpyzx2645 SO! Your sating the Chinese made ones are the junks or they are all junk for decades, Even the American made ones? Mine is an old American made one that the blade flipped out of the handle!
@@dragdragon23 Gerber had some good knives in the past but not for a long time, the new tan rubber handled fixed blade everyone seems to like apparently has been a step in the right direction, but it's still just made with 420c which is pretty garbage, but better than the mystery steel they were using. I have multiple Gerber knives, regret buying all of em except the skinning knife, only reason I don't regret that is because it was cheap and I specifically bought it because of the blade and handle shape, thankfully it will take a sharp edge but it's still a low quality knife like the rest.
Basically what I'm saying is you won't ever catch me buying a new Gerber unless they decide to make something with quality materials and that appeals to me, then I might, but I don't see them doing that.
This was a awesome video, job well done my blade brother 👍
I have heard that UK special forces used the trench knife and called it a 'fanny'. No idea why .
Good display, I have some of those in my collection, I remember the when all the Gerber knives came out in the 80’s, I got a Tac 2 , still have that knife, very good survival/ combat knife. The market really exploded with new knife technology in the 80’s.
What a treasure of knowledge… thank you for sharing it with us…
Commercial tang is a rat tang I would guess?
OKC =Ontario knife company, great value, still in business today.
Yes sir I was an edger there right at the outbreak of the pandemic. Hands down the coolest job I've ever had
There was also the early"Collin's"1/8 inch thick bolo it was Sharpened on one side ( much like a lawn mower blade) & Also pre Ka Bar was the Cattaraugus 2250.
Lol price tag said $37 on the Gerber. Their like $200-$300 now. P.X. is cheaper but not that much cheaper. Cool collection. Loved the SA bolo's nice looking tool. Now days everything is cheaply made even if it is expensive unless it's a Randell 👍
Awesome collection and super informative. Thank you
My Collins machete is very similar to yours but the stamp seems to have been laser etched??
Fantastic content! Knowing how to properly use a knife is an art and can be very lethal in close quarter combat. I always respected the knife way more than a fire arm.
That first one on the left is really cool i love it
Does make me laugh to my self the way when ever Americans discus the Philippines attempting to obtain independence as America tried to enforce their own colonial rule they ALWAYS call them ‘rebels/insurgents/etc’ they where fighting for an independent country free from foreign control ! Doh !
Well yes when you're fighting your countries government you are a rebel. Same with the founding fathers.
At least he's moving away from the term "insurrection."
It's interesting that you mentioned the machete not being meant to be a combat weapon. One thing about the US military is the ability to adapt. The entrenching tool was also not intended for combat but personnel learned early that it could be used effectively in that role.
Same holds true for a framers hammer...
Especially the German WW2 Entrenching tool!
@@nickdannunzio7683 A very apropo statement.
Well, my buddy's dad did pretty good with his machete in Vietnam. Still has it. I bought an M1917 for that very reason.
It was designed with a broad handguard on both sides of the blade. That's a combat knife design.
Show me a dam randle please ...love the four things an operater has...did u ever run into Paul vunak in knife culture..
I throw m7 Vietnam bayonet... beleive it or not the fly vary well for military half spin throwing...
Also check bayonet is excellent for throwing...cheers
The M8 was trash. They broke all the time. Terrible
Wow no mention of the mk1 knife and the "kabar" is the mk2 fighting/utility knife kabar just had the largest markings/ branding Camillus actually made more in WWII.
Thankyou for this fascinating and well presented tutorial. Greetings from Scotland.
When I was in the army I bought used and still have a Gerber mark II that I purchased from the PX.
I have a few of those. Some I didn't know the names of. I also possess a K-Bar because I'm a Jarhead '82.
F/S are actually really good for throwing but DON'T. The tang is a threaded rod and ends up unscrewing. There's no slot in the end of the hilt to re-tighten it unless you cut one. Just warning anyone out there before they do what I did.
it's Michael enchanis a Vietnam vet and former mercenary soldier who was assassinated while doing work for the old somoza regime an expert in unarmed H2'H close quarter combat , knife fighting and counter insurgency warfare and many may not know it but he was the closest thing to an american bruce lee only better because as the very knowledgeable know mr lee was not a competitive fighter and did not ever compete but a helluva mombo dancer in his youth
I really enjoyed this video. Some of it was like a trip down memory lane. 👍🏼
I had the Gerber Mark II in 1987… broke it in 1989.
I guess I’m hard on my cutlery, because I’ve broken three KaBar Fighting Utility knives including the one issued to me by the Marine Corps in 1977. I have one now, and the Big Brother, but I don’t use it. It’s just for looking at.
I’ve been carrying TOPS knives for the last eight or nine years, and have yet to break one. 🇺🇸
One of the members of my platoon bought a KABAR and threw it into a tree at Fort Drum NY. It broke. I am not sure the ones made after WWII were the same quality as the war versions.
Hello from Oklahoma! OK!
Good stuff
Do you think this guy uses his fingernails as a CQB weapon?
Awesome display and discussion of your Combat Fixed Blades. :-) Peace, Stiletto :-)
Great presentation .
Happy trails
The most famous of them all, the Fairbairn-Sykes was breezed by, didn't show the blade. No Randall fighting knife was shown or any EK dagger. Why not?
Maybe cause that one was just the crappy m3 version with the garbage alloy ribbed handle. The brass knurled m2s were my fav by a long way. By the time the m3 was being made it had just become cheap junk
USN Mark 1 and the Quartermasters cartugas 225Q would be cool additions. the Mark 1 was basically the M3 of the Navy and the 225Q was utility for none frontline army troops.
Thank you for sharing your expertise.
Love your work
Phrobis III M9 bayo is of very POOR quality! It even has NO TANG! The USMC had no choice, but to develop their own: the standard "bowie" type and the OKINAWA TANTO type for the OKINAWA KARATE usmc H2H training!
Don't know if the Gerber 'Guardian' by RW Loveless, was ever available as issue but it sure is handy.
I have both the Army M9 and USMC OKC. Both are neat. The USMC is a better fighting knife and 1/2" longer with a thinner blade. The Army is a thicker blade and a better overall survival knife. Historically, the Army wanted knives to be general-purpose tools for various tasks such as opening ammunition crates .
My favorite combat knife was and still is the Gerber Silver Trident. It was robust, big, very sharp, double edged and well balanced and not too heavy. Prefers it to the No II, the M-9, Airforce Survival knife and the Army version of the La Bar.
There are several "holes" in your collection. Like the USN Mark 1, V44, V42, LC-14-B, and 1905 bayonet to name a few.
Yeah he missed a few... I have a V44 handed down by my father from WW2... nice knife. (edit) Forgot to say it's the Kinfolk model.
I have a USMC Hospital Corps knife in its Boyt 1944 sheath. Didn’t see one in this display. I understand these massive choppers gained a following in WWII, though the knife has a very rounded “point.” We just used it as a trail machete in forested western Washington.
Lot of discussion on the Gerber MarkI & II. However , I was surprised that the narrator did not discuss the variation, Vietnam era, that had an off-set (i.e. not centered on the middle) to enhance a front stab into the pressure point behind the collarbone.
The off set is hard to find as some were sent back to Gerber on the grounds they were "bent' so they stopped making that design.
That 1909 is definitely not a bolo..you literally have four separate examples of a bolo style knife next to it 🤦🏼♂️ the first one is based off of the classic Latin machete. It’s one of the most common machete profiles around the world. Unless you really start delving into South East Asian designs.
Thanks for sharing. Leatned alot about the history of Bolo knives .
The M9 Bayonet was a piece of junk. Back in the late 80's early 90s, we broke them all the time where the handle meets the guard. Could not do a bayonet assault course without 10% losses in bayonets!
You completely missed the WWII Seabee combat knife as well as the very rare and special Vietnam era Navy UDT only issue stainless steel KaBar combat/dive knife.
Awesome collection
There is a german knife type with similarities to this Bolo knives. Pure civilian hunting knife Waidblatt.
Navy gunboat gunner in Nam in 71-72. Issued a KaBar marine Bayonet. Great knife. Wish I still had it.
I was wondering if you were going to have a Randall in your collection. Glad you mentioned them.
Subbed💯✌🏾 great video.. The knife at 12:45 the M9 i believe. Is the exact same knife Lincoln Clay uses in the game Mafia 3. Highly recommend if you haven't played it aha.
Ok that mark 1 trench knife is awesome I just ordered a KA-BAR single mark but I think im going to order one of the mark 1 trench knife reproductions from ima-usa next month they seem to be made just like the old ones!
Thanks. I don't think you included the very popular Pal RH 36, as given to me by my D-Day vet father.
That’s a sweet collection, it would be amazing if you had a V42 lol but wouldn’t it be amazing for us all lol but again amazing collection 👍🏻
Cant help but notice the handwritng on labels were like ugly handwritings common among americans..reminds me of my american brother in law almost similar handwriting comparable to kindergarden kids' handwriting😂😂
Very interesting vid thanks
You need to acquire the John Ek Commando Knives.
In the '80s I had a Gerber 6-in blade similar it dropped the floor landed on the handle sounded like a tuning for and the blade snapped after ringing for about "10 seconds Gerber would not make good on the blade,
Western bowie knives were also used by Marines in Viet Nam just like Kabar's.In many cases marked USMC on the sheath by their owners.
I've been looking for a Smatchet for a while. Used to be available. Not anymore.
Man very nice I’m jealous great history you have share it often like you are people should know what kind of real men Americans had at one time god bless stay safe
Marine Corps infantryman here, they still teach us to stick a Ka Bar or the OKC bayonet into the enemy's carotid artery. Some things never change
Nice video. I've always liked the V-42 stiletto and its history.
Thank you. Interesting presentation. I am surprised there is no knife for the Navy.
KaBARs, much to my wife's chagrin, are manufactured less than two miles from my house. I have NO idea how many of the knives, including the Becker line I own. Also, Ontario Knife Company is inly 18 miles north of me, and Case Knives are made 18 miles south of us!!!
I plan to visit all three companies this summer. I'm in Ontario,NY. Last month I purchased the KABAR Modified Tanto. It did not have USA and the model number stamped on the tang. I called KABAR and was told that they don't use steel from the US on some models anymore. They can't stamp it USA as the steel comes from Germany.
KABAR USMC is the best, BECKER BK9 is the badest!
You passed over the USMC marked & issued (5,000) M9 by Buck.
Ia am surprised you didn't mention the pamphlet, "Get Tough"!
I bought a cold steel, blade broke and they failed to replace the knife. Would never buy one again from them
Interesting history however the most ubiquitous one of all isn’t there - the M7!
I guess it's safe to say that Filipinos back then introduced blade/knife fighting to the americans
It's very interesting to see the influence of the Philippine War on US military hardware.
Philippine knife fighters are still training tier one units
@@Rakkasan-vr8xt hallelujah,!
The M9 was pretty impressive...thanks for the talk.
It's pronounced " CUTLERY " not CUTTLE-REE.
Fascinating
Good stuff. Thank you. Would the M1915 bolo bayonet fall under the category?
Those were mostly issued to Filipinos.
You got some guy talking loudly in the background, tell him to quiet himself
Compare to german knives its like old dump if you see it in a dumpster you leave it , its such a crap
Gerber the knife of choice for the baby, baby approved 👍👶
The Air Force survival knife is a piece of shit knife.
Really nice collection and very interesting and informative video!
the guys in the background didnt have eny respect