The Maestro Rhythm & Sound always sounds like instant late 60's Frank Zappa. The Rhythm & Sound and the Woodwind W-2 model are both all over the place on late 60's Mothers of Invention recordings. Glad you discovered it. I am not sure if Tom Oberheim helped in designing this, but some of the Maestro pedals of the late 60's are part of what became early sythesizers. Oberheim designed a few of them( for sure the Filter Sample & Hold, PSA-1 Phaser and Ring Modulator, I bet he designed the Fuzz Phazzer and Brassmaster as well. I can find no mention of Oberheim playing a part in the G2). They were quite revolutionary decades before your co-host was in gestation. The engineers barely had transistors in the mid 60's, so the fact that this device was even built for guitar players is fairly remarkable. They didn't design the G2 for people in the 21st Century that had 5 decades of sythesizer development behind them to evaluate how well they did. I am not sure a digital G2 would necessarily be better than the original though it would likely track better. Part of the charm of the G2 is its inherent lack of perfection. That's where the action is happening. Kind of like a Mellotron with stretched tapes vs a sampled Melllotron. Digital reproductions are often like having sex with a condom. The "echo" seems simlar to a Vox Repeater. I wouldn't be surprised if the Maestro R&D had a Vox Repeater on hand at their Lincolnwood, IL facility. For sure some organs had similar circuits, so it could from that end. The engineers basically took parts of early drum machines that came onboard with late 50's early 60's organs and combined it something like a band pass envelope filter & fuzztone. A tech said the fuzz is a simplified Maestro FZ-1. I think sounds it sounds far better. That fuzz circuit works great for recording fuzz bass. I am glad I bought mine for $300 though it seemed expensive at the time. As a piece of constructive criticism, you're playing the theme from Peter Gunn a bit incorrectly. First off it's in F. More importantly, you're missing the chromatic walkup to the 4th back to maj 3rd part. Most players don't play it correctly. It's just one small pickup note, but it makes the riff turnaround better. Here is a clip of Bob Bain, the original guitarist on the TV theme recording, playing the riff a couple of years before he died. He plays the riff a bit after 1:30. The sound quality isn't the best, but you get idea of how he uses the open A string. He's playing his famed early 50's Telecaster that he played the riff on. ua-cam.com/video/77EnFTmOZCs/v-deo.html Anyways thanks for the video clip. It was a fun way to spend a 1/2 hour.
I've been crazy about the G2 for ages but they're always so expensive - the fuzz is the greatest sound ever but it's not the same as their other fuzz (I think). I just want that circuit in a new box please please please !!!!
One of my favorite guitar riffs ever is Me And Your Mama by Childish Gambino, and this pedal was all over that song, and all over the entire "Awaken, My Love!" album! Im pretty sure it was used for the guitar solo on Redbone too! I'm high key envious ngl
Very weird tech period...this is also the same timeframe that gave us madness that IS the Vox Starstreamer and, a bit later, Electra's weird built-in effects guitars. There's also a confusing thing that Ludwig had out around the same time that was...if I remember right...an FX unit for percussion. Very hip candy-color lighted switches, incomprehensible pedal switches, bizarre housing that sorta "puked" out the pedal controls when opened. Oh...and the EMS Hi-Fly, but that was a tad later. Still all over the place on "DSOTM", tho. I've seriously had a jones for that Maestro's woodwind sibling, actually. Never likely to find one without giving up a kidney, tho...best examples of that little monster are Ian Underwood's work on Zappa's "Uncle Meat" (+ Frank on the one you've got there) and Van Der Graaf Generator's "Pawn Hearts". David Jackson is the perfect player to seriously push the hell out of the W3. Nuts! But while you push whoever owns Maestro now to put out the G2jr, put a bit of a nudge on Josh and get him to reissue the Ross Stereo Delay. I've coveted those literally for decades since first running into one in some Nashville studio or another where it was being used as an outboard slap...in the control room!
Forget relying on Gibson: why is it that with this golden age of guitar pedal maker sthats been happening for years - all of them making Klones and TS copies, etc.; why has none of them remade this? This is an amazing sounding device. No one can copyright a circuit after all.
The echo sound is a repeat percussion like the Vox unit or EQD hummingbird :) Check out the Vox Starstream or Ultrasonic guitars that have these built in
'Maestro W-3 Sound System for Woodwinds' will always be the most successful effect in this series. If Sweetwater is going to jack the $400-$500 market into a $4,000-$5,000 thing, perhaps they should encourage reissues. Although the Thomas Band Box & Playmate sequencer (below) seem light years ahead of Maestro's Rhythm 'N Sound in the same era, they just had better drum sounds and organ has 2 keyboards and pedals for three trigger sources instead of just 1(guitar) on the Maestro. CONTROL VOLTAGE (cv), VCA's, and VCO's were in their infancy. Bring back the 1st Ring Modulator, Maestro RM-1 ! Tom Oberheim's college thesis, with incredible Control Voltage In (CV-in).The 'demo record' isn't anywhere close to what it can do. The Thomas Organ Band Box with the Playmate Rhythm is total interactive genius on Thomas organs from 1966 to 1974 or so. Your total notes amplitude on each keyboard manual (upper and lower) determine the sound level of each drum/rhythm sound. Each drum sound is assignable to upper or lower manual [inc. pedals]. You might be surprised to know that the incredible snare, open/closed hi-hat, toms, kick, etc. on the Band Box are all 1-transistor sounds (and blow away this Maestro they're playing). The Band Box can be played in real time with your fingers, as there is a soft scissor contacts button below each rhythm sound. It was Grand Master Flash's first drum machine. Devo built their first electronic drums from Band Box circuits. 1 transistor sounds with a little EQ and a little reverb can sound realistic. The Drum Roll and Castanets use 2 transistors. Someone should remake the Thomas Band Box & Playmate sequencer, and have 3 adjustable CV-in's. This way the dynamics of the straight 'drum beat' is controlled in real time by the dynamics of the guitar, bass, keys, etc. SAVE THE ORGANS!!
i would buy this, even with all the bongos and stuff, but honestly the aesthetic of it is what is most attractive to me, but that fuzz, i don't even like fuzz but that is tasty
Maybe it isn't "perfect" but for something over 50 years old it's pretty spot on. Modern technology could make it smaller and probably better simulation of the instruments but, I don't think they could make it any better than they did back then.
That is a cool bit of retro tech that can have modern applications. I think the two questions on everyone’s mind are. Does Josh from JHS have one and if so does he have the box. I would hate to see it modernized, the beauty of old analog is the weird shit that can just happen. All those things can be done digitally and sound “perfect” but that’s not what makes the thing brilliant what makes it brilliant is the way it does the stuff it does. Digitizing it would ruin it.
The original came in a briefcase with a Maestro logo. The case has a molded interior with a small area to put the power cable. I would assume Josh would have the briefcase if he owns a Maestro G2
That fuzz is wicked.
Yes, I'm on the toilet and I can hear it
The Maestro Rhythm & Sound always sounds like instant late 60's Frank Zappa. The Rhythm & Sound and the Woodwind W-2 model are both all over the place on late 60's Mothers of Invention recordings. Glad you discovered it. I am not sure if Tom Oberheim helped in designing this, but some of the Maestro pedals of the late 60's are part of what became early sythesizers. Oberheim designed a few of them( for sure the Filter Sample & Hold, PSA-1 Phaser and Ring Modulator, I bet he designed the Fuzz Phazzer and Brassmaster as well. I can find no mention of Oberheim playing a part in the G2). They were quite revolutionary decades before your co-host was in gestation. The engineers barely had transistors in the mid 60's, so the fact that this device was even built for guitar players is fairly remarkable. They didn't design the G2 for people in the 21st Century that had 5 decades of sythesizer development behind them to evaluate how well they did.
I am not sure a digital G2 would necessarily be better than the original though it would likely track better. Part of the charm of the G2 is its inherent lack of perfection. That's where the action is happening. Kind of like a Mellotron with stretched tapes vs a sampled Melllotron. Digital reproductions are often like having sex with a condom. The "echo" seems simlar to a Vox Repeater. I wouldn't be surprised if the Maestro R&D had a Vox Repeater on hand at their Lincolnwood, IL facility. For sure some organs had similar circuits, so it could from that end. The engineers basically took parts of early drum machines that came onboard with late 50's early 60's organs and combined it something like a band pass envelope filter & fuzztone. A tech said the fuzz is a simplified Maestro FZ-1. I think sounds it sounds far better. That fuzz circuit works great for recording fuzz bass. I am glad I bought mine for $300 though it seemed expensive at the time.
As a piece of constructive criticism, you're playing the theme from Peter Gunn a bit incorrectly. First off it's in F. More importantly, you're missing the chromatic walkup to the 4th back to maj 3rd part. Most players don't play it correctly. It's just one small pickup note, but it makes the riff turnaround better. Here is a clip of Bob Bain, the original guitarist on the TV theme recording, playing the riff a couple of years before he died. He plays the riff a bit after 1:30. The sound quality isn't the best, but you get idea of how he uses the open A string. He's playing his famed early 50's Telecaster that he played the riff on.
ua-cam.com/video/77EnFTmOZCs/v-deo.html
Anyways thanks for the video clip. It was a fun way to spend a 1/2 hour.
@60 Cycle Hum - The tremolo/repeat is likely a UJT powered tremolo much like the Vox Repeat percussion .
I've been crazy about the G2 for ages but they're always so expensive - the fuzz is the greatest sound ever but it's not the same as their other fuzz (I think). I just want that circuit in a new box please please please !!!!
Makes me feel good just to know a device like this exists!!!!
Now you are talking my language!!!! Would love to own one of these!!!!!
Paiging warm audio! Paiging warm audio! Paiging warm audio! Paiging warm audio!
Finally found the guitar effect they used for Do Your Thing by Isaac Hayes
I can listen to you jam 24/7!!
I’m on the toilet, and I can hear it
And she's calling a cab
While he's having a smoke
And she's taking a drag
1st!...I saw this online on Reverb a while back... Great content!
One of my favorite guitar riffs ever is Me And Your Mama by Childish Gambino, and this pedal was all over that song, and all over the entire "Awaken, My Love!" album! Im pretty sure it was used for the guitar solo on Redbone too! I'm high key envious ngl
Im pretty sure it was just used specifically used for redbone only as demonstrated by Ludwig.
Ludwig is the man! That whole video deconstructing Redbone is amazing.
I need one NOW!!
Very weird tech period...this is also the same timeframe that gave us madness that IS the Vox Starstreamer and, a bit later, Electra's weird built-in effects guitars. There's also a confusing thing that Ludwig had out around the same time that was...if I remember right...an FX unit for percussion. Very hip candy-color lighted switches, incomprehensible pedal switches, bizarre housing that sorta "puked" out the pedal controls when opened. Oh...and the EMS Hi-Fly, but that was a tad later. Still all over the place on "DSOTM", tho.
I've seriously had a jones for that Maestro's woodwind sibling, actually. Never likely to find one without giving up a kidney, tho...best examples of that little monster are Ian Underwood's work on Zappa's "Uncle Meat" (+ Frank on the one you've got there) and Van Der Graaf Generator's "Pawn Hearts". David Jackson is the perfect player to seriously push the hell out of the W3. Nuts!
But while you push whoever owns Maestro now to put out the G2jr, put a bit of a nudge on Josh and get him to reissue the Ross Stereo Delay. I've coveted those literally for decades since first running into one in some Nashville studio or another where it was being used as an outboard slap...in the control room!
Instant like for describing that as 'puked out' 👍
Go where no man has gone before and plug that pedal into a theramin.
Man, with all these features and a loop pedal, you don't friends anymore
We played the Peter Gunn riff through this totally independently.
Wait no we didn't.
Forget relying on Gibson: why is it that with this golden age of guitar pedal maker sthats been happening for years - all of them making Klones and TS copies, etc.; why has none of them remade this? This is an amazing sounding device. No one can copyright a circuit after all.
A million times this!
Templo Devices has one coming.
Love the fuzztone very satisfaction like
Adam Yauch used this for "The Maestro." This pedal was so amazing, and I'm dying for one however I'm super broke and can't afford it right now
That Meastro is the soundtrack to the epic dump I'm taking right now. In the sink on this Jetblue flight to JFK.
Why would you dump in the sink
The acid fuzz Sonic Boom 3-in-one pedal is also a good unit with some of these effects
Outstanding username
Why does that remind me of the old sci-fi movie sound tracks from the 60's, 70's and 80's?
Im on the toilet and I can hear it!!!
Literally yes I’m on the toilet with my iphone speaker and I can hear it 😂
I need that fuzz tone
Im listening on the toilet and i can totally hear ;)
That might be the coolest thing ever....cant wait for your next episode of "Your all on the toilet!"
Yes I’m on the toilet and I can hear it
New tee shirt: yes I’m on the toilet and I can hear it… lol 😂
Steve and the other guy
The echo sound is a repeat percussion like the Vox unit or EQD hummingbird :) Check out the Vox Starstream or Ultrasonic guitars that have these built in
Not a fan of the percussive instruments on it, but everything else is brilliant! C'mon Maestro! Make it happen!
...and they landed on the moon with Speak and Spell Tech...😘
Yes, im on the toilet.... and I can hear it.
Kind of.😮
yeah pretty cool...I think the "echo" is trem, but with an envelope so that it decays over time.
Maestro smorgasbord rhythm & sound @2000 is cool beyond control.
I love this machine 👌
I want one. They need to reissue this.
Sounds almost like something used on the original Star Trek, but I think they were using a baritone guitar.
Super creeped out, because I’m literally on the toilet. No lie. Great demo, but I gotta wrap this session up.
I love you always forever
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Everywhere I will be with you
Everything I will do for you
'Maestro W-3 Sound System for Woodwinds' will always be the most successful effect in this series. If Sweetwater is going to jack the $400-$500 market into a $4,000-$5,000 thing, perhaps they should encourage reissues. Although the Thomas Band Box & Playmate sequencer (below) seem light years ahead of Maestro's Rhythm 'N Sound in the same era, they just had better drum sounds and organ has 2 keyboards and pedals for three trigger sources instead of just 1(guitar) on the Maestro. CONTROL VOLTAGE (cv), VCA's, and VCO's were in their infancy.
Bring back the 1st Ring Modulator, Maestro RM-1 ! Tom Oberheim's college thesis, with incredible Control Voltage In (CV-in).The 'demo record' isn't anywhere close to what it can do.
The Thomas Organ Band Box with the Playmate Rhythm is total interactive genius on Thomas organs from 1966 to 1974 or so. Your total notes amplitude on each keyboard manual (upper and lower) determine the sound level of each drum/rhythm sound. Each drum sound is assignable to upper or lower manual [inc. pedals]. You might be surprised to know that the incredible snare, open/closed hi-hat, toms, kick, etc. on the Band Box are all 1-transistor sounds (and blow away this Maestro they're playing).
The Band Box can be played in real time with your fingers, as there is a soft scissor contacts button below each rhythm sound. It was Grand Master Flash's first drum machine. Devo built their first electronic drums from Band Box circuits. 1 transistor sounds with a little EQ and a little reverb can sound realistic. The Drum Roll and Castanets use 2 transistors. Someone should remake the Thomas Band Box & Playmate sequencer, and have 3 adjustable CV-in's. This way the dynamics of the straight 'drum beat' is controlled in real time by the dynamics of the guitar, bass, keys, etc.
SAVE THE ORGANS!!
i would buy this, even with all the bongos and stuff, but honestly the aesthetic of it is what is most attractive to me, but that fuzz, i don't even like fuzz but that is tasty
If Gibson don't, Mike Matthews will.
We're doing this of our own derision. LOL.
I feel like Beastie Boys used this. Some of the sounds, sound very much like their sound.
Also you can trigger those sounds with a practice drum pad and a piezo pickup
i've never seen that doubleneck steve is using before
Maybe it isn't "perfect" but for something over 50 years old it's pretty spot on. Modern technology could make it smaller and probably better simulation of the instruments but, I don't think they could make it any better than they did back then.
That was fun!😁
But what do the controls on the top half of the unit do?
28:36 Can I get off the loo now?
Only if you not in "motion" anymore and beware the dead legs
@@spev11 good tip
Still waiting for that Alameda Fuzz Pedal Video
I just need to edit it
I was on the toilet, now I’m not, should I go back in there?
Go when you’re ready. Make sure it’s while you are in the clock though.
@@60CycleHumcast Sadly i'm self employed 😖
@@spev11always on the clock then
@@davedavid7061 the wife says I'm always on the toilet 🤷♂
Were you aware that the 2K and 4K versions of your videos are no longer available in UA-cam Premium?
Toilet works. Hum is old British slang for a strong smell. So 60 Cycle Hum: best enjoyed in the bathroom.
I was thinking that this sounded like something Jack White might use. I'd like to hear what he'd do with it.
I am on the toilet
I knew it!
RYAN, have you heard anything back from Gibson if they are ever going to make this Maestro Rhythm N Sound unit into guitar pedals 2024?
lol no. But templo devices made one and its pretty great. I did a demo recently.
Sheesh!
What doubleneck is that!!!!
I think it was something a Sweetwater employee had commissioned - steve
how'd you know I'm on the toilet?
I’m willing to bet at least 5% of viewers watch these videos on the toilet. So far 3,000 views on this video so at least 150 watched it on the toilet.
That is a cool bit of retro tech that can have modern applications. I think the two questions on everyone’s mind are. Does Josh from JHS have one and if so does he have the box.
I would hate to see it modernized, the beauty of old analog is the weird shit that can just happen. All those things can be done digitally and sound “perfect” but that’s not what makes the thing brilliant what makes it brilliant is the way it does the stuff it does.
Digitizing it would ruin it.
The original came in a briefcase with a Maestro logo. The case has a molded interior with a small area to put the power cable. I would assume Josh would have the briefcase if he owns a Maestro G2
what a weird thing
Behringer,are you watching? CLONE? Only problem is if they decide to clone this, it would take 3 years for it to come out😂
Hey MR. TAMBOURINE Man! Claves BONGO FURY …WTF!
People unable just to go order 'a real cool epiphone'. It might be an EPIPHONE Uptown Kat ES - topaz gold metallic.
That's 100% what it is - steve
Ryan, you're not gonna be satisfied with a pedal that doesn't have the echo and the trem included.
Isn't there a trash can behind the building
I sent in an ad for one of these last year, which you completely ignored, and now it's the greatest thing ever? Unsubbed.
1:29 Men only want one thing and its gross!!! 🤣
wow-wow plus fuzz please. note to crazy person that invented this: percussion on every note is pretty gd annoying
You should have hit the cancel button that would have tripped y’all out
Seems the echo is similar to the Vox Repeat Percussion. ua-cam.com/video/xfI-7Ool8NI/v-deo.html
the fuzz on the bass hurt my ears...
Oh yeah...there's something on the real high end that's a bit painful isn't there? - steve