Can the IAF evade Chinese Radar Cover?

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  • @PatriotPersonfromIndia
    @PatriotPersonfromIndia 6 місяців тому +3

    "गत्ते के जहाज हैं,
    चलने से मोहताज हैं!
    शी जिनपिंग और चाइना,
    दोनों हवाबाज हैं!!" 🤣🇨🇳🤣
    -शलभ शर्मा...
    जय भारत! 💪🇮🇳❤

  • @roshan-yognamaskar
    @roshan-yognamaskar 6 місяців тому +1

    Shiv sir always brings the clarity which is very rare to get in lot of noise.

  • @vimalkumar3815
    @vimalkumar3815 6 місяців тому +21

    Kindly use better mic in recording..😊. Rest is beautiful ❤️

  • @veekykumar1950
    @veekykumar1950 6 місяців тому +9

    Finally someone who understands technical issues..

  • @ajaichandra8950
    @ajaichandra8950 6 місяців тому +2

    Always Love to hear his commentary about complex security issues.
    Breaks into a simple language
    Gives a good insight
    Thank you

  • @Tech-Inside
    @Tech-Inside 6 місяців тому +7

    My knowledge is very little but if brahmos can do so do iaf jets. Chinese tech is very superior ,only on papers I mean. Jai hind.🙏

  • @Rajveer_Singhhh
    @Rajveer_Singhhh 6 місяців тому +3

    Most people think flying aircraft is a videogame. Nothing is achieved until your enemy is in your favorable range, so you have to come closer awwacs or stealth

  • @VijeDerm
    @VijeDerm 5 місяців тому +1

    Fantastic analysis Shiv.

  • @Archway16
    @Archway16 6 місяців тому +2

    CORRECTION:
    Indian Rafales are not based out of Bagdogra, but are based out of Hasimara. Bagdogra at the moment only has a Helicopter Unit with provisions for the operations of transport aircraft. Also, in war time location of a squadron is usually, if not always, changed.

    • @paul1729
      @paul1729 6 місяців тому

      I have seen Sukhois based at Bagdogra

  • @Ronifromearth
    @Ronifromearth 6 місяців тому +6

    tactics may help IAF
    but not always to fight China we must re-equip IAF with more aircraft both 4.5 gen and 5th gen
    Acquiring Tejas mk1a in greater numbers is a good step but we must focus now on tejas mk2 and AMCA

  • @abhikdas844
    @abhikdas844 6 місяців тому +5

    Looking at the comments it feels like some people who don't have money to by groceries, paints chinese cheap jets and calls their own indigenous, had already surrendered 93000 army and also has credibility only in terrorism are suggesting India about hunger index, efficiency of their airforce and its personnel and their equipment. Some paper dragon fellow also has joined these hypocrites.

  • @rangak3976
    @rangak3976 6 місяців тому +1

    As usual, cool and appropriate visuals and good explanations. 🙏👍. Good topic you covered here sir.

  • @hitzrocks4225
    @hitzrocks4225 6 місяців тому +2

    Very informative video sir..
    Please keep posting such videos..
    Jai Hind 🇮🇳

  • @rajinderkumar6455
    @rajinderkumar6455 6 місяців тому +2

    Thanks for your sharing knowledge like in textbooks.
    And we agreed this point that war is not only won with weapons and men
    But also on good generals, guts and strategy😮.......
    And why india buy only those advance weapons which are actually useful for her prescibed by generals not by social media📺
    And now we and other youtuber audience sleep well at night🌃. 😅😅😅.
    Indian defence army sufficiently prepare to any threat from 🇨🇳China.

  • @mercedesbenz3751
    @mercedesbenz3751 6 місяців тому +6

    What if China has installed thousands of small radars in thousands of valleys in the mountains? Do not understand them, they are smart. At that time we can't say, Oh we didn't know that.
    All those time Indian Army had not even thought about the Light tanks on high mountain regions, only after watching Chinese tanks we realized the need of light tanks. Imagine if there was a war, we would have been caught by surprise.

    • @docshiv5798
      @docshiv5798 6 місяців тому

      This is the type of double ignorance or terrain and radar that helps to create mythology and Lord of the Rings type of stories. Ignorance of terrain is mentioned in the video.

  • @gohokar
    @gohokar 6 місяців тому +3

    The efficacy of AWACS is not all that it is made out to be. While LoS from "altitude" might be better than ground, the compression of equipment and power supply to suit an aircraft compromises the suite. Secondly, the cross-section of the surveillance beam is narrower than the ground based system because of aerodynamics and avionic limitations. Third would be the command and control of the theatre. Unless the ATC is transferred to the AWACS, like in the case of Balakot Operation, coordination delay cannot be avoided. And it's well known how hawkish the PLA & PLAAF is about relinquishing command and control.

    • @hiteshadhikari
      @hiteshadhikari 6 місяців тому +1

      That being true, if a datalink exists, it does improve situational awareness

  • @sunilmande
    @sunilmande 6 місяців тому +2

    It is like a Yen to Dollar discussion. If China claims 14 times more aircraft, in quality it is equal to 3 of IAF.

  • @roshanchachane142
    @roshanchachane142 6 місяців тому

    Very well explained. This channel deserves way more subscribers. Thanks, Sir.

  • @rajpreetsinghaulakh8145
    @rajpreetsinghaulakh8145 6 місяців тому +3

    You are a blessing Sir.
    Two things are clear. One PLAAF's ability to deploy is limited. Second momo's stress on their air defence is a clear acceptance of their lack of offensive capabilities.

  • @direwolf7491
    @direwolf7491 6 місяців тому +1

    It's like Saurin's eye trying to find Frodo.

  • @attaboy3357
    @attaboy3357 6 місяців тому +5

    The game has shifted to a different dimension. We are talking about radar coverage while Chinese satellites hover at altitudes where the term “airspace” melds into darkness. Sure, the Indian territory and the aircraft have the advantage of terrain shielding but VLRTRs coupled with the satellites provide a real time image with a resolution better than any imaginable radar system which are uplinked to the entire AWACs network.
    Funnier even, it is repeated often that PLAAF is operating from high altitude airfields and are severely limited by payload. I have frolicked at how the so called experts here conveniently ignored the role of midair refuellers. Get an aircraft airborne from these airfield with maximum armament and minimal fuel. Once at comfortable altitude, refuel and deliver the weapon. Yet, we keep on banging the drum that IAF is operating from sea level bases. Ridiculous.
    We are observing massive improvements in infrastructure along the eastern corridor. But to be honest, we are about 40 years behind our adversaries. The best opportunity was back in 1961 when IAF aircraft patrolled over Lhasa unmolested. Now, even with Rafales and new fangled toys, the eastern region of the country is in a precarious place.

    • @chandranshuamola5840
      @chandranshuamola5840 6 місяців тому +5

      you have a great point but neither VLRTR nor the satellites can be used for weapon guidance unlike a awacs that can vector missiles in real time, and due to the large scope of search in the case of satellites time taken to collate and analyze images is a big duration which cant be used in real time environments like flight vectoring, yes satellites may be good for detecting plume from a ballistic missile.

    • @cybersurg
      @cybersurg  6 місяців тому +6

      Not really. Real time updates of aircraft good enough for targeting are not possible via satellite. You need to brush up on radar theory over social media mythology

    • @attaboy3357
      @attaboy3357 6 місяців тому

      @@chandranshuamola5840 sir AI and modern digital image processing will reduce the lag to bare minimum by the end of this decade.

    • @attaboy3357
      @attaboy3357 6 місяців тому +1

      @@cybersurg well I operate in the eastern region on a daily basis in a civilian aircraft. The number of holes there are where the radars are not able to pick us up despite of having SSRs onboard is simply astounding. If I had to survive on social media mythology, I would be sitting on the grassy knells watching radars swivel in Tezpur chewing hay.

    • @billyjoequit1031
      @billyjoequit1031 6 місяців тому

      ​@@attaboy3357Not sure whats changed in cyborg but hes devoloped a cocky attitude he used to be great when he started .

  • @mercedesbenz3751
    @mercedesbenz3751 6 місяців тому +4

    Looking at the terrain and the height of the mountains. In Air warfare, whoever attacks first will win. And as we know India will never attavk first. Because we have a disease of not taking pre-emptive measures.

  • @nitishpanday4566
    @nitishpanday4566 6 місяців тому +6

    Sir please started creating content on daily basis.

    • @vivek-420
      @vivek-420 6 місяців тому +1

      I am soon going to start making content based on IMINT and OSINT, especially on Pakistan.

    • @vbalyan4353
      @vbalyan4353 6 місяців тому +2

      Whats your channel name?​@@vivek-420

  • @vikramtalwar7450
    @vikramtalwar7450 6 місяців тому +2

    Great analysis 👍

  • @NipunCDG
    @NipunCDG 6 місяців тому +2

    Big fan..I passionately wait for your videos...

  • @AK-pt1pn
    @AK-pt1pn 6 місяців тому +4

    "Dusra Banda" got it😂

  • @thesciencekid3546
    @thesciencekid3546 6 місяців тому +1

    Amazing explanation!! ❤❤❤

  • @atulahluwalia2735
    @atulahluwalia2735 6 місяців тому +2

    Informative, explained in very good way

  • @pawanyadavaps
    @pawanyadavaps 6 місяців тому +2

    What about mysterious sightings of flying objects in imphal? CISF had reported. What about the Indian radar system of forces to track unidentified planes or objects. Took too much time to respond means they were unknown about a mysterious object flying in their sky for minutes and only people who saw it and airport director of imphal airspace reported it. And that object went away without any action being taken by Indian Forces. Is this our readiness against unknown things coming into our NE skies and sluggish response? No further news came from that incident.

    • @saibalbh31
      @saibalbh31 6 місяців тому +2

      It was a weather balloon.

  • @protikbanerjee5933
    @protikbanerjee5933 6 місяців тому +2

    Posing a counter question, what if satellite imageries are used instead of radar by the chinese?

    • @captainparv5009
      @captainparv5009 6 місяців тому +2

      sat just like radars dont send a vid feed of the grnd they take pics every time they revolve arond the POI .... plus sats arent like hovering ... they are revolving around the earth ... plus again trying to locate a flying plane (in mountain region) is like finding a single blue bottle
      in a ocean (almost impossible to find in time to intercept )

    • @protikbanerjee5933
      @protikbanerjee5933 6 місяців тому

      @@captainparv5009 I understand the visibility aspect and also the fact that sats generally have a 24 hr lap time minimum, but what about geostationary satellites? Is that a possibility and do we have countermeasures for that?

    • @cybersurg
      @cybersurg  6 місяців тому +2

      @@protikbanerjee5933 No. Extraordinary power supply is needed for radar even at 300 km. Geostat satellties at 36,000 km cannot generate that power. Besides, the time that it takes for just one pulse of radar to reach a target and bounce back is just too long. But thanks for asking this question. Satellite radar is another myth that people ask about China. Basic ignorance of radar physics is used to make such claims.

    • @Bellx1-f4d
      @Bellx1-f4d 6 місяців тому +1

      Revisit time of satellites is less(weeks in some cases) you could use geostationary but they would have a hard time tracking the fast moving fighter jets(Inverse square low of radiation)

    • @protikbanerjee5933
      @protikbanerjee5933 6 місяців тому

      All the comments together start making some good sense. Thanks guys, great discussion

  • @vedaprakashmanavalan7933
    @vedaprakashmanavalan7933 6 місяців тому

    1:43, TCR is Thoothukudi

  • @shaanmehta4014
    @shaanmehta4014 6 місяців тому +1

    great content as usual. Perhaps you could consider getting a better microphone

  • @nileshkosambi1860
    @nileshkosambi1860 6 місяців тому +1

    Agreed. Nice information

  • @selvinkumar1289
    @selvinkumar1289 6 місяців тому

    Sir why you changed your channel name???

  • @sanjaysathe3218
    @sanjaysathe3218 6 місяців тому

    Excellent presentation.

  • @VikasSinghMinimalist
    @VikasSinghMinimalist 2 місяці тому

    Sir you are a gem ❤

  • @debarya
    @debarya 6 місяців тому

    Cannot we ask them in Hot line swinging on a jhula ? 🙃

  • @truecaller2302
    @truecaller2302 6 місяців тому

    Smart presentation.

  • @gf-ek9ps
    @gf-ek9ps 6 місяців тому +1

    Chinese radar they don't need 10 seconds to do one scan. they need only 0 second.

    • @RedSupergiant
      @RedSupergiant 6 місяців тому +2

      Just like the way Chinese HQ9 air defence works.

  • @shivohamb5015
    @shivohamb5015 6 місяців тому +1

    But this will be true for Xhina jets and our radar too?

  • @jitendrakumarpuri1361
    @jitendrakumarpuri1361 5 місяців тому

    heartly thanks you for such a detailed data

  • @victor256in
    @victor256in 6 місяців тому

    Yes. By walking

  • @redbullwarrior-ip4ch
    @redbullwarrior-ip4ch 5 місяців тому +2

    Indian fighters definitely can avoid Chinese radar as till now Chinese radar cannot detect Indian 5th generation fighter AMCA

  • @selvinkumar1289
    @selvinkumar1289 6 місяців тому

    Sir many are claiming china occupied 50% of Arunachal pradesh.. pls make a video on that

    • @odorlessflavorless
      @odorlessflavorless 6 місяців тому +12

      which clowns are making this claim 😅 I recently returned from the NE , spent time with an Arunachali. Even he hasnt heard of such bs !

    • @vishmoon
      @vishmoon 6 місяців тому +5

      Thats fake propaganda due to elections. Last China occupied some border areas in 1962 after that nothing. They tried but our forces blocked.

    • @cybersurg
      @cybersurg  6 місяців тому +8

      If you try to get all your information from videos made by unknown people you will only get misinformation. The fact that this is a lie is something you can find out for yourself by reading the news, and looking at Google maps.

  • @Terracotta-warriors_Sea
    @Terracotta-warriors_Sea 6 місяців тому +1

    Chinese AWACS especially the more numerous KJ500 have three array AESA housed in an non rotating dome that ensures 360 radar coverage at fast refresh rates as the radar beams are rotated electronically. Then there is a huge Devine Eagle AEW drone with two AESA arrays. Then there are Jilin satellite earth observation constellation that can provide a realtime continuous video and target recognition and now like US they are developing low orbit radar satellites to replace or supplement AEW aircraft and guide missiles over long distances. China also has indigenous low altitude look down radars to cover gaps. Overall its a formidable surveillance capability. But nothing is 100% there will always be gaps, effects of terrain, weather, etc that can be exploited as the opportunities present.

    • @mercedesbenz3751
      @mercedesbenz3751 6 місяців тому

      You are true. China knows each of its 1.4 billion population by face. I mean they have biometric data of all of them.

  • @dheerajkochhar970
    @dheerajkochhar970 6 місяців тому

    What if Chinese use multiple....., use a to detect .....

  • @theintrovert894
    @theintrovert894 6 місяців тому

    super informative video

  • @prakharthapliyal4658
    @prakharthapliyal4658 6 місяців тому +4

    What was IAF on about when they were claiming that our Su30s were able to pick up radar signatures of chinese j20s patroling tibet?

    • @suryamitra7397
      @suryamitra7397 6 місяців тому +1

      An aircraft flying above the mountains does not have the same advantages of terrain. You did not listen to the argument presented in the video. Catching sight of the aircraft on Radar does not men targeting and actual destruction.

    • @prakharthapliyal4658
      @prakharthapliyal4658 6 місяців тому

      @suryamitra7397 IAF is operating at lower ceiling than chinese af. Thats not the point. The point is that is it possible for IAF to catch J20 signatures (cuz it was said specifically that Su30 was able to detect j20). J20 already is claimed to be a 5th gen so we can assume that it has advanced stealth technology which im sure we cannot simply just detect with a su30 radar. And if terrain is such a hindrance then alreadg it should have been difficult to detect any aircraft let alone a stealth one. So my point is whether or not the IAF is capable or not to do this

    • @liangxu
      @liangxu 6 місяців тому

      Obviously IAF will count on magic to find approaching PLAAF aircrafts on Tibet airspace to give it enough time to take the advantage of the blind spots of Chinese radar for intercepting. Otherwise due to the fact that IAF only has 3 AWACS, which isn't enough to maintain patrolling the border 24/7; and since the radar blockage caused by mountains goes both ways which causes Indian ground radar also can not detect these Chinese aircrafts before it is too late, practically these radar blind spots wouldn't give IAF the edge which Indian military fanboys claimed if PLAAF indeed launched such kind of attack on IAF. The 2019 Jammu and Kashmir airstrikes proves that without AWACS's support, IAF won't have enough time to assemble enough fighter-jets to intercept the invasion aircrafts.

    • @prakharthapliyal4658
      @prakharthapliyal4658 6 місяців тому +1

      @@liangxu yes the PLAAF would be able to function buttery smooth on paper as usual not withstanding as said in the video that the hypothetical PLAAF awacs was at a higher ceiling than anything they possess or the fact that the jammu kashmir air strikes resulted in the pakis dumping their load onto fileds way before reaching their targets and then whimering away like beaten dogs.

    • @suryamitra7397
      @suryamitra7397 6 місяців тому +1

      @@liangxu LOL, you slipped there friend! "invasion aircrafts" are highly, highly susceptible to ground based anti airrcraft systems. Once the Chinese aircrafts come iside Indian air space, they are going to drop like flies caught in a bug spray. Even Russia with their huge experience in combat air battle, cannot operate over ukrainian air space without high risk. China has NEVER, NEVER fought an air battle. Again you are indulging in this "kool-aid" that because we have more AWACs we win. Don't work that way.

  • @mayurshinde1788
    @mayurshinde1788 6 місяців тому +5

    Good thing about Chini is that they just need to throw some money at specific news channels & youtubers… voila the Indian social media is flooded with fake narratives

  • @anonymousanonymous7959
    @anonymousanonymous7959 6 місяців тому

    Same can be said for iaf too . Means it will difficult for iaf with limited no of aewacs .

    • @docshiv5798
      @docshiv5798 6 місяців тому

      Totally wrong. Any ground based radar will detect any chinese awacs radiating into India

    • @arnoldshmitt4969
      @arnoldshmitt4969 6 місяців тому

      @@docshiv5798 GROUND BASED RADAR in mountainous area they will see much less as compared to awacs flying at 10000 meters

    • @docshiv5798
      @docshiv5798 6 місяців тому +1

      @@arnoldshmitt4969 They will see the AWACS.

    • @arnoldshmitt4969
      @arnoldshmitt4969 6 місяців тому

      @@docshiv5798 DOUBT IT , mountains on top of curvature of the earth and the distance from the radar + electronic warfare will make it difficult at best

  • @subinitnandi9744
    @subinitnandi9744 6 місяців тому

    ❤❤❤

  • @saurabhgahlot4675
    @saurabhgahlot4675 6 місяців тому

    vo bhi to aa sakte h aise

    • @AmanYadav-vq1wn
      @AmanYadav-vq1wn 6 місяців тому +1

      They would have to descend to attack

    • @pravindahiya719
      @pravindahiya719 6 місяців тому

      are vidwan - unko take off karna padega Tibbet pleatue se ; jyada height se , flat jagah se - hamaare ground based radar jo mountains pe strategic locations pe hote hain wo un aircrafts ko easily pakad sakte hain ( kyoki Tibbet FLAT hai , uncha neecha nahi ).

  • @Arabboy746
    @Arabboy746 6 місяців тому +1

    A poor country that rank 111th in the hunger index, like india, with GDP per capita smaller than some of the poorest african countries, should focus on lifting poverty first 😂

    • @fortem_praseul7918
      @fortem_praseul7918 6 місяців тому +2

      Economy has its own importance but with hostile nuclear armed neighbours, defence should be the utmost priority.
      Ukraine and even Palestine ranks better than India in GDP per capita and hunger indexes...but I don't see genocides happening against India.

  • @mexikonongthombam758
    @mexikonongthombam758 5 місяців тому

    India think they can challenge China but China dont mind about Indian technology.China is focusing on US,instead India should focus in Pakistan and Bangladesh🎉

  • @waqaraleeem817
    @waqaraleeem817 6 місяців тому +1

    Indian dreams are sweet but not able to evade the china airspace with this vintage fighter aircraft like old junk su 30 aircrafts and old mirage aircrafts only new aircrafts is rafale in whole vintage airforce the deama of tejas is goinig on from past 40 years but with our foreign help and engines this program 4:31 is become major dollar eater for indian defence

    • @fun3721
      @fun3721 6 місяців тому +11

      Indian stuff may be old but it still flies. We have money for fuel. How about you? Last heard your chief of staff was saying you guys dont have money for fuel for your vintage aircrafts and rusty tanks. Also, hear jawans dont have food to eat. Infact, i hear tamatar is selling at 350 rs a kilo. duh too bad.

    • @Rahul_sharma...
      @Rahul_sharma... 6 місяців тому +1

      Dude su30 is getting upgraded and astramk2 and rudarm2 will be game changer with su30

    • @vipinchauhan2258
      @vipinchauhan2258 6 місяців тому +6

      Chup ho ja be aata khareed le

    • @darkassassin4166
      @darkassassin4166 6 місяців тому +2

      bro called su-30 junk, that stuff is from 2012 and su-30mki is even more upgraded and under the super sukhoi program. keep crying

    • @RedSupergiant
      @RedSupergiant 6 місяців тому

      Tu apna Chinese HQ9 air defence sambhaal.
      Aur wo katora tank Jo china se liya hai, uske spares banale pehle.

  • @gtrinsanegaming3759
    @gtrinsanegaming3759 6 місяців тому

    Please make an video about MI17 which was shot down by your own Air defence system because of chinese jammers

    • @cybersurg
      @cybersurg  6 місяців тому +6

      Why don't you make? Since you know so much?

    • @gtrinsanegaming3759
      @gtrinsanegaming3759 6 місяців тому

      @@cybersurg You should make some videos which lots of indians dont know about ..how the indian radars were jammed by chinese when Pak f16s attacked. You do better job i havent got time for this ..life too busy in Aus 🇦🇺🇦🇺🇦🇺

    • @gtrinsanegaming3759
      @gtrinsanegaming3759 6 місяців тому

      @@cybersurg We dont live here like an 3rd world country bandits .🤣🤣

    • @cybersurg
      @cybersurg  6 місяців тому +8

      @@gtrinsanegaming3759 Ha ha welll played Paki. Jo Lahore mein chutiya woh Australia may bhi chutiya

    • @Bellx1-f4d
      @Bellx1-f4d 6 місяців тому +2

      Blud can’t tell the difference between radar jamming and IFF. If radars were really jammed, You wouldn’t get a lock to fire anything/shoot down.😂

  • @gtrinsanegaming3759
    @gtrinsanegaming3759 6 місяців тому

    Tuhadeh layi pakistan nahin puraa pehna..abhinandva di aao bhagar kitti si na ..bhul gaye ..jad abhinandhan nu gala peh rahiyan si ..tusi apna mi17 helicoptor shoot down karta si. 😂 muchan ralh ke f16 nahin sitteh jaandeh ..Kabaad Mig21 chak ke junga nahin jittiyan jaandiyan😅

    • @cybersurg
      @cybersurg  6 місяців тому +4

      poda okkala ozhi

  • @gtrinsanegaming3759
    @gtrinsanegaming3759 6 місяців тому

    Dont fuck witg china at the end of the day military budget almost similar to USA 😂

    • @hunter_squadron_nda
      @hunter_squadron_nda 6 місяців тому +5

      You stole the Indian balidan badge, why do you always show love to your dads property

    • @Bellx1-f4d
      @Bellx1-f4d 6 місяців тому +2

      See what Ukraine is doing to Russia.

    • @gtrinsanegaming3759
      @gtrinsanegaming3759 6 місяців тому

      @@Bellx1-f4d Russia will potentially win ..23 countries heloing ukraine . Who will help you? That too against china. No western country as most of our products are made in china including our national flag. India is way too behind any smaller chinese city.

    • @gtrinsanegaming3759
      @gtrinsanegaming3759 6 місяців тому +1

      @@hunter_squadron_nda Have a look on google this badge belong to which armed force in the world first 🤣🤣

    • @hunter_squadron_nda
      @hunter_squadron_nda 6 місяців тому +3

      @@gtrinsanegaming3759 idiot, on your dp Balidan is written Balidan is Sanskrit word. I know everything son. Britishers write who dares who win