Oilskin Tarp out of a Cotton Bed Sheet
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Do it yourself (DYI) oilskin tarp out of a King size Cotton bed sheet. This video goes over the steps I took to make the oilskin tarp and test it for water resistance. The oilskin tarp finished out to be roughly 8x9 and it weighed around 6lbs.
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Awesome tarp. Looks like it worked well. All in all fairly inexpensive compared to the expensive nylon tarps.
***** Thanks, it was inexpensive I already had the sheet so I think had like $20 dollars into the whole thing. Thanks for watching. I hope you find some more of my video enjoyable.
Jason
I would like to try using gorilla tape as reinforcing on the corners and tie outs, I saw Lonnie from far north bushcraft do it while making a teepee
It worked, that is very cool. Appreciate the shout out and good luck on your deer hunt. I plan to get real serious about hunting next week. Have some orders to get out this week. Again, nice tarp and you have to love the weight vs size and durability of oil skin.
Thank you for taking the time to do this diy. It's absolutely fantastic idea for my boys who love to camp with their youth groups at church. They also love to show their friends all kinds of things they have learned and this is right up their alley and just what the doctor or rather campers ordered. Thanks again and keep up the great works.
i make drop cloths doing this with minwax oil and no thinner. (takes 3 weeks to dry here in humid florida) Works great.Camo sheets look great too. Also can re--coat it if needed (thinned 50%).Im a furniture refinsher and if the truth be known ive never seen a difference in any of the oils tho linseed is good because its all natural/non toxic, used on baby furniture alot,Thxs for upload!
just watched William Collins' 3 parter on this subject a few weeks ago yet again a few moments again to make sure I have everything straight. Plannin a vacation trip for some hammock camping in February & anxious to get mine done for testing before hand. Thanks for the video, be safe, God bless, see ya 👍
I love it when a project is simple and turns out exactly as expected. Thanks for taking the time to shoot and post. I will definitely be trying this one out!
Brian Liles It was a fun project and I enjoyed using the tarp last winter but it did eventually fall apart I don't know if it was because I used an old sheet and the material was warn out or if the linseed oil ate the material or combination of both.
Jason
Good to know, Jason. My guess is that it was the light weight of the material. Canvas is much heavier and durable. And a lot more expensive. When I do this project, I will keep the longevity (or lack thereof) of the finished product in mind.
It will also be interesting to see if the harsh desert conditions in my area shorten the lifespan even further. Just curious, how long did your tarp last, and roughly how many uses did you get from it?
EXCELLENT!!! When I did ACW re-enactments,we used Homer Fornbee's wooden deck stain. We would set up the tent, and use rollers and brushes.Turned but pretty well, aged the material and water proofed it, but streaked it.And if you tried to even it out, it just made itworse. I like your method much better.Thanks!!!
WOLFFENHAWKKE Cool I am glad you liked it.
Jason
Like the tie out reinforcements. I used William Collins' 50/50 mix recipe and it worked great! I had one tie out rip. Need to use your reinforcements on it. Great job!
Survival Sherpa If I do another I will use 50/50 as well thanks for watching and the nice comment.
Jason
Very cool, that sure beat packing in a blue plastic trap that always seems to come with at least one hole from the Chinese factory. Pretty aggressive test too, that's a lot of hours of keeping the water out. Good stuff man!
backyardmeat I really wanted to test it good nothing would be worse than having it leak all over while up trying to hunt. Not that I need to worry about that this weekend its suppose to be 80 degrees this weekend and sunny, lol. Thanks for watching, Aaron.
Jason
Thanks for the vid, not many on this subject.
I've been learning oilskinning over the last ten years, with a lot of trial and error. It's an artform, and takes a good eye for materials and ingredients. A lot can go wrong. It often happens oiling ruins an item, be it through increased bulk, rigidity, and increased tendency to tear. They simply become unusable.
My most successfully items have been thin, lightweight nylon, thin sport-style synthetic sweaters, and lightweight blends of cotton of no more than 50% - like dickies pants.
Cotton always needs reinforcement stitching, double layers, and a lot of work to prevent tears. Joints in clothing wear out rapidly, and tears run a long way in the stiffer fabric. Items shrink, the material can become like sandpaper, and the bulk/weight can increase dramatically. Starting with a synthetic reduces all of those concerns.
For natural fibers, mold will set in without consideration, and the addition of bees wax and pine sap almost necessary. Both protect against decay, add suppleness, smell natural and increase the shine. If I can't get either, I'll smoke the item not unlike an animal hide.
I've had more failures than successes, and wasted a lot of supplies trying to figure out what works. When it does, the results are spectacular, unique, and draw a lot of attention. Everyone wants one, and wants to talk about it. Over the years, a few of my creations have truly been one of a kind, and priceless in form and function.
You should make some videos about your knowledge.
Elusive Eluvate make some videos please
Yup been there myself. I almost had a fire over some scrap materiel I did not dispose of properly. Be careful this process can and will cause spontaneous combustion.....
Very cool project. I enjoy your viewing your vids. I am new to bushcrafting and live in the Portland metro area. I was thrilled to find a community of you guys in my own state to learn from. Keep the vids coming Jason. Thanks!
***** I am glad you like the vids and its always nice to meet people that interested in Bushcraft and the outdoors that are fairly local.
Jason
Sprinkler tests sold me; great job!
yea adding some turpentine will really help it dry specially if it is not warm and dry weather. It will also make your tarp lighter, as will making a twin which I am about to do for a hiking kit. If you make it too thin though you might have to do 2 coats, depending on your thread count I know 300 is not enough for 1 to 1 ratio. I might try 1to 1 on an 800 count but 2 parts oil and 1 part turpentine really does a good job on bags and pouches, and it is still pretty thin.
Jason.. Sweet.. gear made from oilskin awesome! I had never really thought about the bed sheet as a cotton source, but now it's got me thinking. Keep us up dated on the wear and waterproof aspects.
I have heard of using a 50-50 mix of BLSO and MS but never tried it. It's supposed to dry faster but makes for a thinner coating. I have used a mix of BLSO, paraffin, and beeswax that works quite well.
Thanks for he video..
Shad
shadowcastre William Collins has done a few videos on the 50/50 and seemed to work out ok for him so I figure I will try it on my next one make which will probably be smaller one. Thanks for watching.
Jason
Most excellent! This is a money saving project except the oil of course but still a great task for me to look into.
+Man Land (Midnight121) This was a fun project unfortunately I used a old sheet and it didn't last very long :(.
Jason
Thank you. I need a low cost temporary basis cover for a tiny hoop greenhouse for a few seedling trays. I do not have canvas so I will use old jeans.
+2LearnMore Cool idea I hope it works out for you.
Jason
I really enjoyed and appreciate all the work you put into this. If I were to do it, and I may, I think I'd skip the tie-outs and just haul along some tarp clips, especially since I have no clue how to sew! Thanks for sharing this informative vid.
+cmrsvids Thanks I appreciate the compliment, tarps clips would work fine or just tie around a pebble would also work.
Jason
That's a great job. I see your sewing skills trump mine got to practice some more. Thanks.
+Opal Preston Shirley Thanks I am glad you like it,
Jason
I would have mixed the boiled linseed oil in a 50/50 mix with mineral spirits. The mineral spirits acts as a drying agent and will let the linseed oil dry completely. Linseed oil by itself will never completely dry.
I totally agree. I have taken Naptha and 100% silicone window and door caulk and mixed it in a bucket at a ration of 1 caulk canister with 5 times the amount of Naptha for a 1/5 ratio. Hang to dry and hit it with water to test it.
Vinegar
Vineger?
@@silentwarrior2385 nature's solvent. patience is a virtue. longer drying time = more pliability.
Boiled linseed oil has drying agents. It is better that basic linseed oil.
Nicely done jason. Will have to give that a go. Have water proofed canvas tipis and wall tents before, but never using just the linseed oil.
SeanSquatch PNW Thanks I am not sure how well using linseed oil will work in a more humid climate but I live in a high desert climate and it seemed to work just fine. Thanks for watching.
Jason
Great idea! Been wanting to make an oilskin tarp and bedroll.Will try this asap
Russell Suender It worked ok but to be honest don't know that I would do it again. Thanks for watching.
Jason
Just made one in, its hanging in my shed, will add gromets after its dry. really looking forward to using it ,thanks
Cool I hope it works good for you.
Jason
if you want grommets not tie outs you should really enforce the locations. grommets don't spread the force well and the back side of the tension will be very likely to tear of just like the cheap blue ones. Plus when you clamp them in place it cause a rub point around where the metal clamps to the fabric.
thanks I was going to re enforce with thin leather.
Nice! Looking forward to the 50/50 mix.
***** I am not sure I will do a video on it but you can check out William Collins channel to see a video on the 50/50 mix.
Jason
primalarcher
Thanks! I will check him out. I am intrigued.
Great tutorial and very simple. Has anyone reading this ever tried this with a nylon/parachute-type material to reduce weight?
I guess nylon wouldnt soak the oil up like cotton.
I use a king sheet. I also use ripstop fabric from old bdu pants for my reinforcement where I add loops. I also spray camo paint on the sheet before dunking in the oil mix.
Did you just use the rustoleum camo spray paint colors? & did it bleed or wear?
If you add a strip of canvas around all the edges of the sheet it is much tougher and wont rip in high winds.
Great idea.
Jason
Another option is to use is Thompson's water seal for canvas. Use a airless sprayer to apply it to the material. It may take multiple coats, but it will dry faster then two weeks.
I have heard about that method but have never tried it. Thanks for watching.
Jason
Be careful with that stuff; even when it dries and doesn't smell anymore, it still is potentially putting off toxic fumes
im going to make a vid very similar to this in the near future great job explaining how to do it
coydog outdoors Cool I look forward to it.
Jason
+Primal Outdoors can you make a waterpoof poncho from a bed sheet?
This was a very good idea. Cheap and easy. And if it held the rain out and you dry, this is something I will make my self. For how long time will the tarp be water proof ?
Thanks for sharing.
+NorseMan I can't really answer that question my got destroyed in a wind storm.
Jason
Very nicely done. I am going to have to give this a try. Been talking about making our own SilNylon with a friend too.
Take Care.
Lars Londian Good luck its a great project making a silnylon would be great too I may do that myself.
Jason
I like the 1/4" double stick tape tip. that should make things much easier
+Andrew Willis It really does help a lot holding things together before you sew.
Jason
Linseed+ cake of bee wax. Great vid
Really cool project. Looks great.
Caveman Outdoors Thanks hopefully it works well for me this weekend.
Jason
Great video, really useful. I haven't invested in a nice tarp yet, so maybe il give this a try!
Cool. Thanks for sharing. I just use Tyvek (construction house wrap). Tough enough to put under you sleep pad and water proof from above when raining... Light too for the pack
Gary Emerick Thats cool idea I may check that out.
Jason
Put the tyvek in the washing machine to quiet it down and make it not so stiff. U can then put it in a 5 gallon bucket with some dye to get the bright white color to fade. U can also use duct tape on the corners and sides to make tie-outs.
Primal.... terrific video. How is it holding up today?? Also, when you made it, was it stiff and difficult to fold or roll or was it pliable and easy to manage.... like a regular canvas tarp?? Very nicely done, especially the part on sewing in the tie outs and attachments. Please let us know how it worked for you and if you are still using it currently. Best wishes.... Ax
I have not tried this yet. I'm going to, though. Like you said, I think I'm gonna do a twin sheet...much more my speed. 6lbs. Sheesh! LOL.
briargoatkilla 6lbs is a bit heavy for back packing but you have to keep in mind I am 6'4" and I need the larger size to proved enough cover. I do want to make a small one that I can keep in a day pack just for those times I need to get out of the weather for few minutes. Plus I mainly plan to use this one for truck camping where weight won't be issue, though I am taking it with me today for my rifle deer season and I am going to pack in a couple of miles for a few days and with the cooling weather I may need a fire to help stay warm. Thanks for watching.
Jason
primalarcher I had no idea you were that big. I'm only 5'9. A twin would be a decent enough shelter for a night or two...about like a poncho hooch. I'd definitely want a big one on a bad weather trip, no matter what the weight, though. I'm using a 10x6 nylon (non sil) tarp now and I wish it was bigger sometimes.
man this sort of project is really popular. Can you speak any further to the spark resistance? You've had it for a year or three...any further results?
Great idea! Amazing really, old school technology at it's best! Love to try it but do not have a sewing machine.
+kc329191 I am glad you liked it, you can pick up a used sewing machine for pretty cheap if you check around.
Jason
Turned out great man! Well done.
***** Thanks, Justin. Now we just got to get your made.
Jason
Amen. I might stop being a cheap ass and buy one this weekend.
very cool hack, thank you for the info.
that's outstanding. ive been wanting to do this for years but never make the time
Survive Without Quit slacking and get on it, lol. Thanks for watching.
Jason
Very cool ! Ive been planing to make one also . Glade to know it worked out well for you.
Jason Good I am glad it worked out as well, now to see how it holds up. Thanks for watching.
Jason
Excellent
+aliza day thanks
I need to try this. Thanks!
I like what you did. I have a concern. An oil soaked cloth is excellent tinder. Would silicone be as waterproof, and less able to catch on fire? Thank you.
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Good stuff
Dang, that is a great idea and very good vid.
But still very cool and i think i might try it .
Good stuff Jason... Looks great!!!
Todd
Central Oregon Survival Network Thanks, Todd.
Jason
Definitely will try it.I made a tarp with cotton painter's canvas about 10 oz weight.Though I should've sewed hems(too much sewing by hand,and I don't have a sewing machine)due to great tendency to fray at edges.,it's a decent tarp with nylon loops at 4 corners and in the middle(8 loops total).Problem is it's too heavy and takes up alot of room in my pack(Trapper Nelson canvas pack with wooden frame)being 9x12.I watched the video to see how you waterproofed it.I'm wondering if just applying the Linseed oil by a big paint brush versus dipping it like you did.would work as well.
+Russell Suender Yeah don't know it may work but I have never tried it that way.
Jason
+Russell Suender no so far as I know or can remember from the old timers you have to completley saturate it . I was looking for the tin cloth think it is linseed oil and beewax and mineral sprits
Thankyou
Nice job on your tarp for sure. I just may have to try this out for myself, I'm needing another tarp too. : )
Hello mate that's a cracking tarp you've made . Atb Martin
Outlander Bushcraft Thank you, I appreciate you watching.
Jason
Great idea...I want to pack a tarp big enough to have a floor..my 3x3 nylon seems to roll up bigger than My California king sheets do....I may try this..
You can use essential oils in that as well, like mint for bug repellent
Veeery nice! So ... How's it holding up after 4 years? :-)
Very well done video. Thank you.
Sounds great.
Although a list of supplies would be helpful ( especially for non-americans). Did you say "boiled linseed oil"? Did YOU boil it, and what for? ... Did you have to use special needles for sewing on the canvas and "webbing"(? what kind of webbing?).
Thank you for sharing this. I've often wondered about this, when wearing my wax-parka.
Excellent video.
I know the video is good . just pointing one safety note boiled linseed oil is capable of self combustion, just so you know , it probably won't ignite but can .. happy new year and god bless .. Lee
So I've seen many videos on turning a bed sheet into a waterproof tarp . Why doesn't anyone put tie outs / pull outs on the ridgeline , the middle , and the diagonal like a DD hamock tarp or a Gold Armour tarp ? Can it be done and still be waterproof ?
nice project thanks for the video
+Amra Survival Thanks you,
Jason
I have been using a regular plastic tarp for a backpacking shelter so I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on the pros and cons of a plastic tarp vs an oilskin tarp. Obviously weight is a big concern for backpacking but do some of the other qualities of the oilskin tarp make it worth the extra weight? Thanks!
+OctopusHook The biggest plus I see for the oilskin is that it won't get pin holes from sparks not saying it is fire resistant I know I said that in the video but I later found that not to be true, but I did have embers from my fire land all over it and they didn't burn any holes. Now with that being said it was extremely heavy and even if you make it yourself it is more expensive than a plastic tarp and if you do burn a hole in a cheap plastic tarp you can replace pretty inexpensively. If you plan to use it on a long term trip I would go for the oilskin as think it is sturdier and will last much longer, but short term trips where its not such a big deal if the tarp holds up I may just go with the cheap plastic tarp.
Jason
Thanks for the info. Its an interesting project and im all for making my own gear but i think I'll stick with the plastic tarp until i can finde somthing that is lighter. I woulder if a oilskin tarp could be made from silk? That might get the weight down considerably. It was an interesting video anyway and the tarp looks great. Thanks!
In my experience, boiled linseed oil won't dry in humid climates and will become tacky/sticky if humidity remains high.
We have difficulty with black mold taking root in oil-based paints, as well. Not sure if that's dust/pollen that has stuck to sticky paint, seems to be.
Nine years later - how did it last/ turn out? Tx!
Nice work! This is a great idea.
4570levergun Thanks I will see how she works this weekend when I go deer hunting.
Jason
Great idea!
Dude. You are awesome.
that's awesome, I want to do something like this now
Thank you for the video.
Erin Owl Your welcome be sure to check William Collins channel as he has some good videos on this subject as well. Thanks for watching.
Jason
Will do. 8-)
Good stuff.
Great video, I also want to make my own Oil Skin Tarp! Could I ask a question? How durable is this tarp? Will it be easy to break? How long have you been using it? (The video is five years ago!)
Great idea here. My question is if you could take a Super Soaker with some Camp Colors and hit the material as it was, 'pitched'? I wonder if it would accept the colors or not? You should probably pitch and dye it before waterproofing it.
CAMO COLORS. NOT CAMP COLORS. DARN AUTO CORRECT!
you could always try fabric colors (from light to dark ) in few steps before applying linseed oil. it has worked for me, but i dont have "proper" camo pattern but more like mixed colors (from light brown through medium brown down to dark brown with mixes of green in between).
How have I never even heard of this before? This is really neat.
+dustysquito I am glad you liked it,
Jason
has it stood the test of time, and have you had to touch up the tarp with more linseed oil yet? weight isn't a concern of mine and this would make a nice project. nice video man.
thanks for your response! i may still try this once the wife lets me have a sheet lol
Think I'll make one, got the sheet...now I just need some canvas, double sided tape, webbing, linseed oil, a sewing machine and a large place to dry it, along with a month of really hot weather...no problem! 😢
i would use silicone and naptha or mineral spirits. 4 to 1. it won't rot the fabic like linseed oil does when it's not dried.
i did a tarp yeats ago with boiled linseed oil and hung it out for two weeks and it had started roting on the edges. that was a 1000 count cotton fabric wasted. they are not cheap to replace.
That's sweet. I was wondering what the weight was and then you posted it in the video. I was hoping for a before and after weight and get an idea how much oil residue is still embedded in the sheet. Not that it matters, but it would be fun to know.
Sorry I didn't weigh it before I started :(. Thanks for watching though.
Jason
hey, pretty awesome vid , keep it simple , thks
Enjoyed the video, Thanks for sharing
I am glad, thanks for the comment.
Jason
great job!!
really cool man. might try it next summer
AC .Bushcraft Thank you I appreciate the comment and should try it.
Jason
Very nice! I'd like something like this for canoe camping. My nylon tarp has a few pin holes from wayward sparks so a natural cloth would be much better.
I got to ask though, how safe is the Linseed Oil? I've always been told to destroy Linseed soaked rags because of the risk of spontaneous combustion it presents. Though I must confess that numerous attempts to witness this have all failed. Dire warnings are always given where this oil is applied with rags. Perhaps it's only possible while the oil is still wet.
Good video and nice tarp!
All the best, Al.
Knucker Once the linseed oil is completely dry it is safe the risk is when its still wet. I kept this tarp in a hot car all day folded up and checked it several times for heat and felt nothing. Of course do this kind of stuff at your own risk but so far I feel the tarp is plenty safe. Thanks for watching.
Jason
primalarcher thanks for a quick reply and thanks for clearing that up. I look forward to seeing the results of a 50/50 oil/spirit mix. I'm impressed with your test.
Thanks, Al.
Knucker Check out William Collins channel as he made two using 50/50, I did not see his videos until after I started my project.
primalarcher Cheers, I'll go have a look.
Thanks!
Unlike some oils and coatings, linseed oil cures by oxidation, which produces heat. Left in a pile or container, the heat is insulated and can build up. A linseed oil soaked rag, if left to dry flat, like this tarp was, will never build up heat, as the heat dissipates immediately. Then once completely dry, it's very safe.
Amazing project! What's the weight? and is it particularly thick fabric?
It was pretty heavy it was about 6 lbs and fabric was pretty lightweight.
Jason
Hey, great video. I'm looking to do something similar. Have you found that folding the tarp affects the treatment? Does it cause any breakdown in the folded areas?
+Fredi “Fredrockinva” R I made this out of a old sheet and I had some branches fall on it during a wind storm and it put a bunch of holes in it so I trashed it, so I can't give you any long term wear assessment.
Jason
Isn't boiled linseed oil fairly expensive? Either way, great idea. I know in the past a combination of ochre and animal fat was used on sails, on ships. Probably oils such as linseed were used as well. I can't remember exactly. It was so long ago. (jk) 😄😄
An tarps like this be laundered if so how
I stumbled on your channel researching sewing a custom sil nylon tarp for this winter on the Hoh and bogy, steel heading in the national park.I want to get away from the masses down below.
So I found a comment stating you got a winter out of it and suspected a better sheet might of made a difference.Would/are you doing another?I like the idea for the same reason you stated,it will stand up to fire embers better than nylon.I am actually thinking of incorporating both materials for a winter fire friendly/friendlier hammock tarp.thanks in advance for any feed back..Greg
+greg At this time I do not plan to make another I bought a Whelen canvas lean and I have been using it. Are you in Oregon or Washington?
Jason
Thanks for the response!I think I am going to make a king and use it in conjunction with a sil for this winter .I will let you know how it works out.I plan on going off trail up here .....www.protrails.com/gallery/518/washington/olympic-national-park-olympic-national-forest/hoh-rainforest-south-fork
and here
www.wta.org/go-hiking/hikes/bogachiel-river
New to neither river but during the wet season it can get uncomfortable quick.
as you can see from the trail reports I live in Washington on the east side of the Olympics these days as the economy on the west end is suffering badly.
After reading more of your comments and thinking about it I am going to stick with a sacrificial harbor freight tarp.Thanks for your candid comments.straight up.
Awsome!
myName Thanks I appreciate it
Jason
hum didn't know anybody that tried it we were talking one night he said he wanted to make one I suggested 300 Egyptian bed sheet and viola he did it makes a great hammock to I subbed atb Tom kabaruser
Thanks, William Collins also has good videos on the subject. Thanks for watching and the comment.
Jason
Definitely going to try this excellent video have been looking for an easy way to do this for a while so thank you could this be used as an shtf gortex? Maybe
This method is at least two hundred years old. Fish oil and linseed oil were used by by sailors and fishermen on sails, and later on clothing. It doesn't breath as well as Gortex or hydrophilic coatings. It's also smells more and tends to go yellow with age. These days the linseed oil tends to be mixed with wax and turpentine to stop this happening, and to avoid the long drying times. Unlike Gortex, the proofing can be reapplied once its waterproofing wears off. You can buy ready made oilcloth/waxed cotton.
How flexible is it when its dry? It sounded and looked really stiff when u were checking it for water.
+Jon Morgan It is somewhat stiff but not too horribly bad.
Jason
Does it smell of linseed oil?
Just showed up in my feed after 6 years! Have you considered a mix of boiled linseed oil and beeswax?
No sir..you soaked it in boiled linseed oil....you made it even more flammable...not bad mouthing by any means...i want to do this myself...just saying its not flame resistant at all, nothing you mix with oil is, the volatiles are still there...good video other then that..i dig it!
Add some Japan Dryer to the linseed oil and it will dry much faster.
+Wilfred Oikle I don't know what that is but I will look into it.
Jason
Would this be a good idea for for making patio cushions?
I've heard of spontaneous combustion from stored rags soaked in linseed. I hope that doesn't happen with the bed sheet.
Very cool. Let us know how it holds up with some use.
HardWayLearnt I will I plan to use it a lot this winter. I have read that BLO will deteriorate fabric over time but never have got any specifics on how long it will take so I will just have to see how it does.
genius ! is this idea with the linseed oil some thing you only need to do once or every so often to the sheet?
definitely a good idea and money saver, also great idea for and emergence cover of some sort too
Can the linseed oil idea work with ordainer clothing like pants and jackets to????
Thanks for getting back to me, how did you get the holes in it, was it just due to general wear or did that mixture have some thing to do with getting those holes?
All the best and thanks for the info!
+leonardo1480 Some branches fell on it during a wind storm.
that mixture doesn't weaken the material in anyway especially the threaded/stitched areas?
again thanks for the info!