I have a small 12v solar power system in my garage and want to charge my Parkside 20v batteries in the most lossless way possible. your conversion looks exactly what I've been looking for. thank you so much for posting this 👍
Отново страхотна идея и добра реализация. Един съвет - ползвай флюс на паста, когато запояваш платките. Много улеснява нещата и се избягват нежелани прегрявания.
Hello and thank you for all this important info regarding this outstanding modification. Can you please take a look inside PLGS 2012 A1 (Parkside Smart Charger 20V / 12A) ? Being the most powerful charger for 20V series at this moment, i would like to see where shall we can connect the boost converter of 21.5V. At the first glance, it looks like the copper it's controlled by the ICs, and no voltage it's present with battery disconnected. Thanks again and keep doing this great work.
Awesome job! I am trying to do this with the 2.4 amp charger (I have 2 of these). However I read other people's commenrts and heard they couldn't make it work. Do you or anybody have an update on the 2.4A charger mod? Another question: cutting the AC-DC source away from it didn't affect the charging curve? I mean is the charging time / capacity affected or same as original? Last but not least, there is the Octocoupler "U1" which you left out of the mod but I saw other video where they included it too.. Cheers from Romania!
Обмислям да използвам такива батерии за къмпинг цели. Идеята ми е подобна, ще се зареждат от соларния контролер. Но тъй като мисля и да разреждам батерията, май тази модификация с оригиналната платка няма да работи. Дали тази батерия може да се зарежда без третия ID ПИН ?
Батериите на Parkside може да се зареждат без ID пин но трябва да зареждате със модул която напрежението е фиксирано на 21V и 2,4A за 2Ah батерия и около 4,5A за 4Ah батерия.
do these batteries have a bms included? i would like to use just a step-up connected to the cigarette plug and to the -+ of the battery. do they know when to stop charging?
Very nice! love it! :-) To push it even further, I think ultimate charge for best battery health would have on/off undercharge (for example 85%) and choice of slow or fast charge. When not in hurry, there is no point in charging 4A, battery would be more happy for longer lower amps charge. Solution could be for example parallel step up module connected directly to battery and set only to 19.5V and only 1 amp (cell protection is not needed while doing undercharge). It could fit in bigger casing of 4.5 charger. What do you think, ErCan?
Yes, this can be done with 1 key with several options with the addition of certain resistors. And you can choose to charge with 1A, 2A, 3A or 4A with an additional switch, in the same way you can adjust the desired voltage🙂
@@ErCanEverything Yes, putting parallel resistors to potentiometers on DC converter is nice idea. In the end I decided to add XT60 to PAA 20-Li B2 and in combination with DC-DC converter with display it is neat solution when I am getting my desired variable charger (reduced charging speed for battery life) and also universal power source. For charging I don't need cell protection because I will undercharge to 20.5V (longer battery life) when independent cell balancing in the battery can do its job (it runs on cells > 4.0V). Thank you for inspiration!
Good idear but not for this... People will build this to do quick 12V charge on the at the car.. Time=Money Lidl already offers smart charger with storage function
Nice video, but won't work for newer charger series (I.e. "C1" or newer) but if you are lucky to have older one (like Ax in this video), then go for it
All nice, but you forgot to include in the description the link to the piece with display for voltage and ampere control. If you enter it I can try to build. Thank you so much...
This meter has been discontinued and I have now added the new version in the description. But this cable for the cigarette lighter also did not turn out to be reliable, it is desirable to look for a quality one, just the wires of the cable are not copper
I used a slightly older version there, which I don't have a link to, but in this video I have left a link in description for the Energy Meter 32V 5A device ua-cam.com/video/RNUBXrXvtGc/v-deo.html
Great project and great video, congratulations! If you vary the input voltage (I am thinking about using a solar panel), does the output of the converter remains stable?
good. i have broken plg 20 a1. The 220 volt part burned out, the 20 volt part was intact. Do you have a video on how to redo it? there are 2.4 a and another board. I want to charge the solar panel
Very interesting, can you thing it's possible to do the same thing with a battery charger ULGD 5.0 ? The idea is to create a cheap DC-DC charger with floating mode for charging an auxiliary battery in a vehicule.
ULGD 5.0 is a Ultimate Speed 12V battery chargeur. It's turn the 220V into 14V 5A for charging car batterys. It's like the PARKSIDE x20team chargeur but for the 12V car baterys. Do you think it's possible yo replace the 220V power supply by a 12V car cigarette lighter plug like you have done with the PARKSIDE x20team chargeur ?
If you want to charge a 20V battery with ULDG 5.0, it will not work because it will not allow 21V output voltage. The best option is adjustable DC Boost converter from 12V to 21.6V.
I tried this with a spare 2.4A parkside charger, but the red and green LEDs are flashing simultaneously when I connect a boost converter and plug the battery.. The charger has a similar layout and components to yours, I checked carefully that I didn't damage any components.. Any idea why?
With a 2.4A charger you have to set it to 21.6V and 2.4A. It should work, if you did this I have no idea. Maybe 3.5A are among the successful chargers🤷♂️
Здравейте, поредното добро видео. Поздравления! Имам следният въпрос , предвид че накрая тестваш зарядното на 12 в, дали ако зарядното се ползва при запален автомобил когато напрежението е по високо, оптимално 14.4В, дали няма напрежението към батерията да се повиши нсд 22в
Не, няма да се повиши напрежението. Напротив, по този начин тока пада от около 8A към 6-7A. Това е добре и за конвертора, и за кабелите. Колкото е по високо входното напрежение, толкова повече пада консумираният ток.
Платката, която вгради вътре е за тази цел, тя подава стабилно напрежение и ток независимо от входното. Има си ограничения разбира се, но 2-3 волта разлика не са никакъв проблем за схемата!
Сърдечно благодаря че задоволихте любопитството ми. всъщност съм ползвал степ уп платка за една по масивна блутут колонка която конструирах, но признсвам си незнаек че изходящото напрежение не се влиае от входящото.
Всъщност точно обратното - частта със захранването 220v си струва да се остави, а другото (зарядната част) да се махне. Тя е с контролер без datasheet, с който е изграден и таймер и изключва заряда след известно време. Което е проблем ако си си намалил зарядния ток (както аз съм направил) - трябва да вадиш батерията и да я слагаш обратно за да свърши заряда след рестарт на таймера.
Cześć potrzebuje mini przetwornice ,żebym mógł dać adapter baterii Parkside z 20v na zasilanie 12v chce otrzymać. Starą zakretarke 12v chce używać na baterii 20v, coś podpowiesz?
hello Ercan! I am a fan of your videos and I follow them all. your ideas are brilliant! do you think it is possible to charge parkside x12v team batteries via cigarette lighter? and what about the x20v team always via cigarette lighter? I see that in the video you used an uncommon 3.5 amp charger model and I don't know how to do with the other models. I thank you in advance. happy holidays from Italy
Thank you very much for your kind words. 🙏🙂🤝🤝 You can charge, but you will still need a similar board to regulate the voltage and current. at X20V the charger boards are 80% identical
This hotgun is not a best method, because power booster can be heat and will the fixing melt down. Booster have poor effiency 100W in and 65W out... 65% effiency in my opinion is very low. But the idea is very good.
Not very practical unless ya plan to run ya car or van for at least an hour be different if was a 15min fast charger ....so would have to take 2 chargers but depends on the job you bound to have more than one battery maybe add solar to the van and have few of these parkside do have a dual charger aswell
Most expensive way to charge a battery ive seen, gas price is going up who is smart enough to build this but dumb for not understanding thermodynamics.
If your car battery is 35A and is designed for a 500W UPS, the car should run during charging. I don't have such a problem and I did it for camping purposes.
I have a small 12v solar power system in my garage and want to charge my Parkside 20v batteries in the most lossless way possible. your conversion looks exactly what I've been looking for. thank you so much for posting this 👍
Отново страхотна идея и добра реализация. Един съвет - ползвай флюс на паста, когато запояваш платките. Много улеснява нещата и се избягват нежелани прегрявания.
Благодаря ти Приятел🙂🤝
Използвам Колофон, рядко и Флюс.
Но както казваш, и пастата върши перфектна работа🙂🤝
Good job brother👍
Thank you my Friend🙏🤝🤝🤝
This is exactly i was looking for, thanks for sharing!
Харесва ми много ! Ако трябваше да го правя и аз щях да го направя като теб!
Благодаря🙂
Hi, I'm excited, I wonder: but would this be possible on a 20v 4.5ah parkside charger? The 3.5ah one is no longer around.
Thank you so much...
Wow. That's great idea and awesome video 👏👏👏
Thank you my Friend🙏🤝
Perfect job again and again 👍👍👍
Thank you my Friend🙂🤝
Hello and thank you for all this important info regarding this outstanding modification.
Can you please take a look inside PLGS 2012 A1 (Parkside Smart Charger 20V / 12A) ?
Being the most powerful charger for 20V series at this moment, i would like to see where shall we can connect the boost converter of 21.5V. At the first glance, it looks like the copper it's controlled by the ICs, and no voltage it's present with battery disconnected.
Thanks again and keep doing this great work.
Pekná práca👍
Prajem veľa úspechov.
Friend you are very talented ... Congratulations on what you do !!!
Mega Genial 😍💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Thank you my Friend🙏🤝🤝🤝
Great job, very interesting
Could you do the same thing with x12v batter?
Thats what I am looking for
Awesome job! I am trying to do this with the 2.4 amp charger (I have 2 of these). However I read other people's commenrts and heard they couldn't make it work.
Do you or anybody have an update on the 2.4A charger mod?
Another question: cutting the AC-DC source away from it didn't affect the charging curve? I mean is the charging time / capacity affected or same as original?
Last but not least, there is the Octocoupler "U1" which you left out of the mod but I saw other video where they included it too..
Cheers from Romania!
sos un genio un super inteligente saludos de guatemala
Thank you very much🙏🤝
greetings from Bulgaria👋
Bravo Brate
Fabuloso 👏🙌👍saludos desde España 👍😉
Greetings from Bulgaria👋
Thank you🤝🤝🤝
Good idea and good work! I would have added a fan to extract hot air from dc dc step up 12/22V and high charge current 😉
Обмислям да използвам такива батерии за къмпинг цели. Идеята ми е подобна, ще се зареждат от соларния контролер. Но тъй като мисля и да разреждам батерията, май тази модификация с оригиналната платка няма да работи. Дали тази батерия може да се зарежда без третия ID ПИН ?
Батериите на Parkside може да се зареждат без ID пин но трябва да зареждате със модул която напрежението е фиксирано на 21V и 2,4A за 2Ah батерия и около 4,5A за 4Ah батерия.
do these batteries have a bms included? i would like to use just a step-up connected to the cigarette plug and to the -+ of the battery. do they know when to stop charging?
@@myloalex I am pretty sure the bms is in the battery, but I still did not try to charge it your way.
Very nice! love it! :-)
To push it even further, I think ultimate charge for best battery health would have on/off undercharge (for example 85%) and choice of slow or fast charge. When not in hurry, there is no point in charging 4A, battery would be more happy for longer lower amps charge. Solution could be for example parallel step up module connected directly to battery and set only to 19.5V and only 1 amp (cell protection is not needed while doing undercharge). It could fit in bigger casing of 4.5 charger. What do you think, ErCan?
Yes, this can be done with 1 key with several options with the addition of certain resistors. And you can choose to charge with 1A, 2A, 3A or 4A with an additional switch, in the same way you can adjust the desired voltage🙂
@@ErCanEverything Yes, putting parallel resistors to potentiometers on DC converter is nice idea. In the end I decided to add XT60 to PAA 20-Li B2 and in combination with DC-DC converter with display it is neat solution when I am getting my desired variable charger (reduced charging speed for battery life) and also universal power source. For charging I don't need cell protection because I will undercharge to 20.5V (longer battery life) when independent cell balancing in the battery can do its job (it runs on cells > 4.0V). Thank you for inspiration!
@@ErCanEverything hi can you build one for me and post to me in ireland i will be happy to pay
@@MrGodsking I don't have the necessary materials at the moment, and shipping abroad is a bit inconsistent for me.🙂
Good idear but not for this...
People will build this to do quick 12V charge on the at the car.. Time=Money
Lidl already offers smart charger with storage function
thanks 10/10 (for me i will use XT60 connector but ok)
Nice video, but won't work for newer charger series (I.e. "C1" or newer) but if you are lucky to have older one (like Ax in this video), then go for it
nice one !!👍
Thank you my Friend❤🙂🤝
All nice, but you forgot to include in the description the link to the piece with display for voltage and ampere control. If you enter it I can try to build. Thank you so much...
This meter has been discontinued and I have now added the new version in the description.
But this cable for the cigarette lighter also did not turn out to be reliable, it is desirable to look for a quality one, just the wires of the cable are not copper
super idée , je voudrai m'en faire un pareil mais je ne vois pas quel model utilisé pour l'afficheur .
I used a slightly older version there, which I don't have a link to, but in this video I have left a link in description for the Energy Meter 32V 5A device
ua-cam.com/video/RNUBXrXvtGc/v-deo.html
@@ErCanEverything merci, serait-il possible de faire ce montage avec un chargeur PLG 20 A1 car je ne trouve pas de PLG 20 A2 dans mes chargeurs ?
Great project and great video, congratulations! If you vary the input voltage (I am thinking about using a solar panel), does the output of the converter remains stable?
Fantástico trabajo 👌👍💯👋
And if you connect it to a house adapter thats lets say 12V 1A will it work or fry the adapter?
good. i have broken plg 20 a1. The 220 volt part burned out, the 20 volt part was intact. Do you have a video on how to redo it? there are 2.4 a and another board. I want to charge the solar panel
merhaba, videoda usb volt ammer metre kulanıyorsunuz bu cihaz kaç ampere kadar ölçebiliyor veya kapasitesi nedir
Very interesting, can you thing it's possible to do the same thing with a battery charger ULGD 5.0 ? The idea is to create a cheap DC-DC charger with floating mode for charging an auxiliary battery in a vehicule.
Like this?
ua-cam.com/video/bWuANoC3T0g/v-deo.html
ULGD 5.0 is a Ultimate Speed 12V battery chargeur. It's turn the 220V into 14V 5A for charging car batterys. It's like the PARKSIDE x20team chargeur but for the 12V car baterys.
Do you think it's possible yo replace the 220V power supply by a 12V car cigarette lighter plug like you have done with the PARKSIDE x20team chargeur ?
If you want to charge a 20V battery with ULDG 5.0, it will not work because it will not allow 21V output voltage.
The best option is adjustable DC Boost converter from 12V to 21.6V.
I tried this with a spare 2.4A parkside charger, but the red and green LEDs are flashing simultaneously when I connect a boost converter and plug the battery.. The charger has a similar layout and components to yours, I checked carefully that I didn't damage any components.. Any idea why?
With a 2.4A charger you have to set it to 21.6V and 2.4A. It should work, if you did this I have no idea. Maybe 3.5A are among the successful chargers🤷♂️
@@ErCanEverything Thanks for your reply. I did exactly that, but sadly still no luck. I get the flashing LEDs..
I have the same problem, both LEDS are flashing. I also use the 2,4A charger. Any suggestion?
@@tonyvanhoucke556By any chance did you manage to get it to work?
Very nice
Thank you my Friend🙂🤝
Again something useful and interesting 👍
Great project! Thanks for sharing 👌🏻
Thank you my Brother🙏🤝🤝🤝
Merci beaucoup pour la vidéo
Selam, kolay gelsin. İyi bir tasarım. Makita şarj cihazında melodi var. Öyle birşey parkside şarj cihazınada tasarlanabilirmi? 🫡
Здравейте, поредното добро видео. Поздравления!
Имам следният въпрос , предвид че накрая тестваш зарядното на 12 в, дали ако зарядното се ползва при запален автомобил когато напрежението е по високо, оптимално 14.4В, дали няма напрежението към
батерията да се повиши нсд 22в
Не, няма да се повиши напрежението. Напротив, по този начин тока пада от около 8A към 6-7A. Това е добре и за конвертора, и за кабелите. Колкото е по високо входното напрежение, толкова повече пада консумираният ток.
Платката, която вгради вътре е за тази цел, тя подава стабилно напрежение и ток независимо от входното. Има си ограничения разбира се, но 2-3 волта разлика не са никакъв проблем за схемата!
Точно така👍
Сърдечно благодаря че задоволихте любопитството ми.
всъщност съм ползвал степ уп платка за една по масивна блутут колонка която конструирах, но признсвам си незнаек че изходящото напрежение не се влиае от входящото.
Забелязах,че изходящото напрежение при Boost Up конвертери, започват да влиаят когато входното напрежение е равен или е по висок от входното.
Всъщност точно обратното - частта със захранването 220v си струва да се остави, а другото (зарядната част) да се махне. Тя е с контролер без datasheet, с който е изграден и таймер и изключва заряда след известно време. Което е проблем ако си си намалил зарядния ток (както аз съм направил) - трябва да вадиш батерията и да я слагаш обратно за да свърши заряда след рестарт на таймера.
Why there is no ready solution for purchase....
Cześć potrzebuje mini przetwornice ,żebym mógł dać adapter baterii Parkside z 20v na zasilanie 12v chce otrzymać. Starą zakretarke 12v chce używać na baterii 20v, coś podpowiesz?
Why use an AC charger for DCDC convertion. Use the 20V Light dongle and charge it via a adjustable stup up you install in your car much easier.
just a step-up is all you need? is the BMS on the battery not on the charger??
Es wäre gut wenn die verbauten Teile auch benannt werden
Everything is in the description of the video but I do not recommend the cable for the car cigarette lighter that I use because a real fake came out🤦
Нове видео класс 👍👍👍
Thank you my Friend🙏🙂🤝🤝🤝
hello Ercan! I am a fan of your videos and I follow them all. your ideas are brilliant! do you think it is possible to charge parkside x12v team batteries via cigarette lighter? and what about the x20v team always via cigarette lighter? I see that in the video you used an uncommon 3.5 amp charger model and I don't know how to do with the other models. I thank you in advance. happy holidays from Italy
Thank you very much for your kind words. 🙏🙂🤝🤝
You can charge, but you will still need a similar board to regulate the voltage and current. at X20V the charger boards are 80% identical
Greetings from Bulgaria👋
I'll send you my address, I need this in my van! Well done!
maybe you know how to turn on the charger without the parkside battery, to charge batteries from other companies?
This hotgun is not a best method, because power booster can be heat and will the fixing melt down. Booster have poor effiency 100W in and 65W out... 65% effiency in my opinion is very low. But the idea is very good.
You are right, the hot silicone melted after use.
Then I did it with heat-resistant silicone🙂
More Ampere than "max." ;)
Not very practical unless ya plan to run ya car or van for at least an hour be different if was a 15min fast charger ....so would have to take 2 chargers but depends on the job you bound to have more than one battery maybe add solar to the van and have few of these parkside do have a dual charger aswell
Interesting. It consumes 100W, but only 80W are output into the charger PCB. 20W are lost along the way.
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Vreu si eu un comentariu in limba Romina
vezi ca ai buton de translate la comentariile in alte limbi
efficiency level 77% :( but who would care about that :D. A fan inside would be useful.
Ça dépasse mes compétences
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Mujhe ek banakar do
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Thank you my Friend🙏🙏🙏🤝🤝🤝
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Ściema. Ta przetwornica bez radiatora się ugotuje!!!! Konieczny radiator radiator najlepiej aktywny.
Most expensive way to charge a battery ive seen, gas price is going up who is smart enough to build this but dumb for not understanding thermodynamics.
If your car battery is 35A and is designed for a 500W UPS, the car should run during charging.
I don't have such a problem and I did it for camping purposes.
same here, i have multiple of these batteries and they have a lot of W you can use when camping