THE BIGGER THE LIE - Media Bias in the Scottish Independence Referendum

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  • @Boon1333
    @Boon1333 10 років тому +62

    Scotland has only 8.3% of the UK's population. 8.3%! Remember this important figure... 8.3%
    But we DO have...
    32% of the land area.
    61% of the sea area.
    90% of the fresh water.
    65% of the natural gas production.
    96.5% of the crude oil production.
    47% of the open cast coal production
    81% of the untapped coal reserves
    62% of the timber production
    46% of the total forest area
    92% of the hydro electric production
    40% of the wind wave and solar energy production
    60% of the fish landings
    30% of the beef herd
    20% of the sheep herd
    9% of the dairy herd
    10% of the pig herd
    15% if the cereal holdings
    20% of the potato holdings
    ...obviously 100% of the Scotch Whiskey industry.
    We have a...
    17 billion pound construction industry
    13 billion food and drink industry
    10 billion business services industry
    9.3 billion chemical services industry
    A 9.3 billion tourism industry
    7 billion financial services industry
    5 billion aeroservice industry
    4.5 billion pound whiskey exports industry
    3.1 billion pound life sciences industry
    Scotland still has 350 million pounds worth of textile exports
    We have 25% of Europes wave and wind energy potential.
    And finally we are blessed to have 1.5 trillion pound worth of oil and gas reserves.
    All of this, yet only 8.3% of The UK's population... Whaow Scotland should be rich!
    IGNORANCE...
    If you hear anyone saying "I DONT LIKE ALEX SALMOND" or "I DONT LIKE SNP"...
    THIS VOTE IS ABOUT SCOTLAND'S RIGHT TO ELECT ITS OWN GOVERNMENT... IT HAS NOTHING WHATSOEVER TO DO WITH ALEX SALMOND OR THE SNP.
    DONT LET POLITICAL IGNORANCE RUIN THIS OPPORTUNITY.
    Do you know... This is the UK's legacy of success in our history of being better-together is as follows...
    The UK has the 3rd lowest pensions in the 34 OECD countries of the world
    The UK has the single most expensive childcare in the European Union
    The UK has the second lowest-paid economy in the entire developed world
    The UK has the 3rd longest working hours in the EU
    The UK has the lowest number of holidays in the EU
    The UK has the 8th highest gender inequality pay gap out of the EU's 28 countries
    The UK has the highest likelihood of poverty in disablement in the EU
    The UK has the highest rail prices in Europe
    The UK has the second highest housing cost in Europe
    The UK has the highest fuel poverty rates in Europe.
    The UK is the 4th highest country of wealth inequality in the entire planet!
    But surely these awful figures cannot be possible when you read the following Scottish statistics...
    Now, finally, did you also know that in all of the UK's elections for Westminster ever!... Not one vote cast in SCOTLAND has ever mattered! Because of the Westminster numbers, whatever government England votes for, the UK gets. So we have no democracy here!!! 4 decades of tory rule that we voted against is proof enough, and our defiance was punished by the closure of all the mines; closure of all the steelworks; closure of all the shipyards losing hundreds if thousands of jobs. The term used by Westminster's Thatcher when these industries needed some assistance was "let the markets decide". Funny how when the greedy bankers collapsed everywhere they were bailed out to the tune of over a trillion pounds of our money... Not a mention of "let the markets decide".
    FACTS:
    Fact: Scotland has an oil boom waiting to happen on the West Coast, but Michael Hesaltine signed a cessation of any form of oil exploration in the entire area in the 80's to make way for nuclear submarines which Scotland doesn't want!
    Fact: Scotland has shown its revulsion time and time again to nuclear weapons but they place them here against our countries wishes. A recent contingency report was carried out a out the feasibility of relocating them in Portsmouth. The report stated that it was unfeasible because the detrimental risk to the area of an incident was too high. (Ok for the Clyde though)
    Fact: Scotland, with only 1 Tory MP, was forced to take the shocking attack on the poor & disabled called The Bedroom Tax, even though as our nations government, Holyrood voted to utterly reject this awful tax on the poor. Westminster gave us it anyway!
    Fact: We are led to believe that the oil in our waters is finished and its a dying industry. Yet 13.5 billion has been invested by oil companies in the last 2 years alone!
    Fact: The Clair Oil Field is about to open, and on its own has over 650 million barrels which will be extracted over 20+ years with production reaching a hundred thousand barrels a day!
    Fact: Scotland gives more to Westminster than it gets back. Do you really think they'd be so keen to keep us if we were being subsidised like they'd have us believe?
    Fact: Westminster has amassed over £1.3 trillion debt and still growing at nearly £6000 a second. Thats another £516 million today alone which YOU will have to pay for.
    Fact: Of the 178 countries that have gained their own independence across this planet, not one single one of them has ever asked to reverse this independence, and very few of them have the assets we have.
    SCOTLAND, WHAT ARE WE SCARED OF? WE HAVE A CHANCE... WITHOUT A SINGLE BULLET BEING FIRED, WITHOUT A SINGLE DEATH... TO GET OUR FREEDOM AND INDEPENDENCE, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS PUT A CROSS IN THE YES BOX.
    SCOTLAND, ITS TIME TO STAND UP AS A NATION AND VOTE YES ON THE 18TH OF SEPTEMBER... AND BECOME A FREE AND CARING NATION AGAIN!!!
    VOTE YES AND SET OUR COUNTRY FREE!!!!
    Y E S ! ! ! Y E S ! ! ! Y E S ! !

    • @westbrit4714
      @westbrit4714 10 років тому +3

      Boon1333 Cut an paste crap most of which is wrong or irrelevant

    • @Boon1333
      @Boon1333 10 років тому +10

      yes its cut n paste but its not wrong or irrelevant .. prove one thing thats wrong

    • @westbrit4714
      @westbrit4714 10 років тому +2

      Boon1333 Well several things stand out Switzerland has the highest price per km for Rail travel ,the £1.5 trillion figure for oil reserves is a Scottish government (ie SNP) figure not accepted by the- UK government or the oil industry and much more.
      But you have asked for proof that one thing is wrong Scotland's voted decide the 1974 election en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_general_election,_February_1974
      And it is the case that without Scotland the Tory's would have won a majority in the last election

    • @petergrossett6763
      @petergrossett6763 6 років тому +2

      Boon1333. Also Scotland has Scots like me who have left, but would love to return. There is a drift effect (Lowland clearance)? Just as the population didnt climb between The Bruce & Mary Queen of Scots. So the population is managed today.

    • @Endorsky
      @Endorsky 5 років тому

      Boon1333 typical Scottish person desperate to keep Scotland relevant by copy and pasting crap so other overlyproud Scottish people can have something to talk about as well Hahaha, just remember that England owns you forever and always, keep speaking our language and pretending that Scotland has something to offer :)

  • @geoden1645
    @geoden1645 10 років тому +10

    Great post Prof. Robertson, you're the first pundit I've seen who's had the courage and honesty to reveal their political leaning.

  • @Justmyopinionlol
    @Justmyopinionlol 10 років тому +8

    I'm English and I support independence for Scotland.

  • @phantompower4519
    @phantompower4519  10 років тому +18

    Professor Robertson view on Currency Union issue and BBC's bias technique of Ommission:
    BBC Bias by Omission
    When my research revealing BBC Bias against the Yes campaign was published, several people correctly identified that I had not exposed the way good news stories about Scottish independence were often ignored by the BBC. At the time, I knew that to do so would make it easy for critics to accuse me of selection bias. It’s more objective to simply look at what is broadcast and find what is there in the editorial selection and in presentation so that is what I did. But my critics were correct in that bias by omission is a very important form of bias. So, I thought I'd point to examples of it now in the last few weeks before the vote and disseminate them as widely as I can. I’ve set up a Facebook page (at my age!) and invited friends to contribute. I’m already indebted to the very well-informed Cindie Reiter who sent me the very useful Adam Smith Institute piece below and to newsnetscotland.com which on a daily basis provides a powerful counterbalance to BBC Scotland’s bias. In only two days, three excellent examples have emerged, countering the criticism of alleged weaknesses in the Yes campaign - currency, the banks, detail - and from high status ‘establishment’ sources which former chancellors will be hard placed to contradict. It’s a pity FM Salmond didn’t make much of them in his debate with Alistair Darling. BBC Scotland has ingnored them all.
    Tuesday 5th August 2014
    Let's see if BBC Scotland report this important expert view from former RBS Chief Executive and Chairman Sir George Mathewson in yesterday's Financial Times. He probably knows a bit more about this than the BBC financial 'experts'.
    'A split from the UK would not threaten Scottish banks. Ignore the unionists’ scaremongering about the financial sector.'
    www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ecd409fc-1b37-11e4-b649 00144feabdc0.html?siteedition=uk#axzz39WsfLS8j
    Wednesday 6th August
    In a press release from the Adam Smith Institute, champion of liberal capitalism and no friend to the Social Democracy favoured by Scots, Kate Andrews, Research Director, demolishes Better Together’s suggestion that the SNp’s lack of a plan B matters so much. She writes:
    “An independent Scotland could flourish either by using the pound sterling without the permission of the rUK (or by setting up a “ScotPound” pegged to sterling through a currency board, which would achieve a similar end). This ‘sterlingization’ would emulate a number of Latin American countries that use the US Dollar without an official agreement with the US government. Because Scottish banks would not have access to a currency-printing lender of last resort, they would have to make their own provisions for illiquidity, and would necessarily act more prudently.
    “Scotland actually had this system of ‘free banking’ during the 18th and 19th centuries, during which time its economy boomed relative to England’s and its banks were remarkably secure. And Panama, which uses the US Dollar in this way, has the seventh most stable financial system in the world.
    “Everyone says Mr Salmond needs a Plan B if the rUK does not agree to a currency union with Scotland. But unilateral adoption should be Plan A, making Scotland’s economy more stable and secure. The UK’s obstinacy would be Scotland’s opportunity.”
    www.adamsmith.org/news/press-release-an-independent-scotland-should-keep-the-pound-without-ruks-permission/
    Wednesday 6th August
    What exactly happens if you vote no?
    We've heard repeated calls for the Yes campaign to provide more information on currency, the EU and pensions. BBC commentators have encouraged viewers to see these as areas of failure by, especially, Alex Salmond.Yet we hear no real criticism of the No campaign's failure to explain exactly what voting No would mean. So much for balance? Ian Bell of the Glasgow Herald wrote beginning with this below.
    ‘If the long argument over independence has had a sub-text, it has been the demand for information.
    To hear it told, there's a national shortage. Nervous voters are asked to make a leap into the forbidding dark without so much as a few flimsy parachutes of facts.
    So the No side would have it, at any rate. Yet where the future is concerned they don't stock many facts themselves because that is not, it seems, their job. Will David Cameron and Nick Clegg be offering another coalition if we vote No? Will Scotland remain in membership of the European Union beyond 2017? Which coalition deeds - which deeds specifically - will be undone if Ed Miliband wins office?...’
    www.heraldscotland.com/comment/columnists/talking-of-hard-facts-exactly-what-happens-if-you-vote-no.24930155
    Powerful arguments from mainstream sources omitted from coverage because….? I’ll keep this up till the big day.
    My Facebook page is at: facebook.com/profile.php?id=100005589228387&sk=wall

  • @zhidapang8825
    @zhidapang8825 3 роки тому +2

    Free Scotland.. Voice from Malaysia

  • @picklevid
    @picklevid 10 років тому +6

    I think you have articulated and analysed using good research and statistical methods what most of us have already felt. Great job.

  • @picassomicasso1
    @picassomicasso1 10 років тому +23

    MAY YOUR DECISIONS REFLECT YOUR HOPES NOT YOUR FEARS - Nelson Mandela.

    • @boardgamer447
      @boardgamer447 10 років тому

      "may your decisions reflect your hopes not your fears"..otherwise known as wishful thinking.

    • @iii-ei5cv
      @iii-ei5cv 10 років тому +3

      ***** see I don't know why you people do this. "Tartan disneyland"? No why they want to leave- and everything I see coming from the "Better Together" crowd is full of snide comments about Scottish culture. Maybe if the English weren't such ASSHOLES to everyone you could actually convince people to stay with you.

    • @chiefgilray
      @chiefgilray 8 місяців тому

      ​@@rabbitsplifffunnily enough, the only people using the cult rhetoric like 'utopia' are the fear fed unionists

  • @DEBBIEGIBSON22
    @DEBBIEGIBSON22 10 років тому +3

    this video should have millions of views, why arent scots passing this around on facebook? such a shame

  • @stoneyascension7250
    @stoneyascension7250 10 років тому +23

    A vote yes; is a vote against all the centuries of wrongs England has perpetrated against the Scottish nation through ethnic cleansing, mass murders & total subjugation of the Scottish people. This is a chance for Scotland to right the wrongs of the past & finally bring honour to their history & people.

    • @chiefgilray
      @chiefgilray 8 місяців тому

      Not England, the UK government

  • @Meta_was_my_idea
    @Meta_was_my_idea 10 років тому +3

    As Sean Connery has said many times in the past, in his wonderful Scottish brogue, "My Scotland must be a free Scotland." Let it be finally and have no doubt the vote will be for independence.

    • @freeforester1717
      @freeforester1717 Рік тому

      Hey ho! Fun fact - he was a tax exile, did not even live in Shcotland.

  • @SI-vb7hd
    @SI-vb7hd 2 роки тому +3

    Fascinating video with well articulated research

  • @carolinearmit4040
    @carolinearmit4040 10 років тому +5

    Thank you for this evidence based research. Information is power. This confirms what attentive people have obsserved, particularly in the last few weeks. Well done and keep up the good/ethical work.

  • @lovepeace8991
    @lovepeace8991 10 років тому +1

    I know a lot of Scots and a lot of English and they are very, very different people I have to say. My Scottish friends always emphasized how much Scotland got suppressed by the English government etc. I think you should vote 'YES', it may cost you at the beginning a bit but at the end it will be a win win for Scotland, I am sure. Scotland has so much potential. And it saddens me to see how much the English government tries to scare the Scots 'cause their desire for independence. Please vote 'YES'. Don't let the English intimidate you. You are a great nation!

  • @LillianHannah1973
    @LillianHannah1973 10 років тому +1

    Proff Robertson... one of the most entertaining lecturers I have ever had!!

  • @tomgrant295
    @tomgrant295 8 років тому +3

    Very good interview, and very believable!!

  • @Figserello
    @Figserello 10 років тому +3

    A tirade of biased misrepresentations and underhanded tactics. That's how you know how valued and respected you are by the British establishment. Vote Yes, Scotland!

  • @fitzer1980
    @fitzer1980 10 років тому +2

    Vote YES for a brighter future!
    This land is your land

  • @bobmcbride7139
    @bobmcbride7139 10 років тому +1

    Professor you have highlighted the clever activities of the intelligent people who have real power in this country, the media and the commentators working within.

  • @martinboumansour5390
    @martinboumansour5390 10 років тому +2

    Excellent work, I think this is also how the BBC tackle the general election, using the same subtle but effective techniques to support their party of choice.

  • @modernityscotland
    @modernityscotland 10 років тому +9

    John, very interesting video, well worthy of discussion. Higher and Advanced Higher Modern Studies students in Scotland would find this very relevant to their studies and I'll share it with my network if that's ok?

    • @phantompower4519
      @phantompower4519  10 років тому +1

      Please do, John. Links to the original research listed above.

  • @alastairbrown8945
    @alastairbrown8945 10 років тому +2

    Excellent!

  • @robertmcsevney
    @robertmcsevney 10 років тому +3

    This is no surprise to me it is what I thought was happening on the media

  • @YesOnSeptember18th
    @YesOnSeptember18th 10 років тому +1

    SCOTLAND FOREVER!!! We're almost there.. This is OUR time! (Say YES) HIGH QUALITY

  • @Bennytet
    @Bennytet 10 років тому +1

    John this documentary is perfectly put. Honesty in politics inspires everyday people to think for themselves. 9:19 is the single most important point you make for this. I will be sharing this :-)

  • @Jimmie16
    @Jimmie16 5 років тому

    Not only bad news but downright lies.

  • @periurban
    @periurban 10 років тому +1

    This was a really fantastic documentary. Actually showing a degree of balance missing from some of the invective thrown at the BBC. The bias is institutionalised around hard wired attitudes, rather than being a deliberate act of sabotage, but even so, it's still not good enough. But despite that I do believe Yes are winning the arguments and making better progress. I think Scotland is going to rock the foundations of the remains of empire.

  • @patlelion
    @patlelion 10 років тому +1

    Not one English media referred Joseph E. Stiglitz is University Professor at Columbia University, recipient of the 2001 Nobel Memorial Prize in economics, one of the TOP 3 economics in the planet. The latest esteemed economist to share their thoughts on the Scottish independence debate has called some of the talk around Scotland’s post-independence economy “fear mongering” and the hot-button issue of currency a “non-issue”.
    He said the greater risk for Scotland is to stay in the UK and for the UK to leave the EU, adding that the standard of living for most Scots could fall with cutbacks in UK public education and health .

  • @sandy7m
    @sandy7m 10 років тому +1

    Although John Robertson is stating the obvious. The analysis that he put forward for the way the bias was given more effect, was very interesting.
    His final comments about media bias backfiring on the perpetrators really struck a cord when he used Russian media as the example.

  • @xz_games
    @xz_games 10 років тому +1

    This was eye opening, especially to an undecided voter.

  • @Toffee8370
    @Toffee8370 Рік тому

    Fantastic that this has resurfaced. Nothing has changed. If anything, it's even worse.

  • @Ade0fSpades
    @Ade0fSpades 10 років тому +2

    makes me sad to think we all missed the biggest opportunity for a long time. I will be forever Scottish and never British though, even though its a no from the majority.

    • @insanityrulestheday
      @insanityrulestheday 4 роки тому +1

      Thanks to the Traitorous SNP we missed the opportunity in March 1979 when it was thanks to the SNP voting against Scottish Independence and back stabbing the working class, tax-paying citizens of Scotland, that Thatcher's Conservative government was elected in 1979 and proceeded to lay waste to Scotland.

  • @onfiremusicman
    @onfiremusicman 10 років тому +1

    I'm a Welshman watching this from London and am very interested in the debate - I would prefer it if Scotland remained part of the UK, but would wish Scotland well if it departed. My views are partly held on the basis of preference for being in a union with several celtic partners, as well as England. I also feel that academic, scientific and business interests are best served in a union rather than across boundaries, although I'm sure the Scots are savvy enough to be a success without the rest of the UK. I'd be interested to read your research paper on this. I would have thought that the majority of our news stories start with a negative slant and then go on the defensive (but I trust your judgment!)? It would be interesting to do a comparison of the Scottish referendum debate against other news stories in which there are two different sides, and to see how the sequential order of ideas compare. You make some particularly strong points and I hope that the BBC and ITV take some of them on board (I just watched a short clip on BBC Wales and thought that the sequential order of points of view was balanced: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-wales-28945524).

    • @onfiremusicman
      @onfiremusicman 10 років тому

      On another note, I wholeheartedly agree with John Clarke, a poster below, who makes a very good point about bias within this piece, e.g. the descriptions of Alex Salmond as being a 'gifted' politician (I actually agree with the professor on this one, but it is an odd thing to mention in the context of an academic report which is attempting to be objective). Evidently, this doesn't diminish the points the professor makes, but it probably isn't the best context for such a subjective comment.

    • @phantompower4519
      @phantompower4519  10 років тому

      Michael Thomas Andrews Michael, thanks for your comments and interesting views on the debate. Please find links to research papers above. There will be range of openings but overall, across the year, they were found to be weigh on the negative. On the 'gifted ' point I understand the word as meaning 'natural ability, intelligence, talent' which does fit Salmond but take your point it could be read otherwise. I have said I am pro- independence but I included the description to counter claims that Salmond was a monomaniacal dictator - the mainstream media/tabloid portrait of him. Respect to Wales.

  • @jimmycormack
    @jimmycormack 10 років тому +2

    The government's official independent forecaster....! Is the BBC having a laugh?

  • @jorobertson7553
    @jorobertson7553 10 років тому +3

    “Propaganda is as powerful as heroin; it surreptitiously dissolves all capacity to think.”
    ― Gil Courtemanche

  • @robbiekirkwood5275
    @robbiekirkwood5275 4 роки тому

    Alex Salmond has the most important voice in Scotland !!

    • @insanityrulestheday
      @insanityrulestheday 4 роки тому +1

      As a Traitor to the hard working, tax-paying citizens of Scotland. FUCK SALMOND who is Nothing but a Rotten FISH, just like his side-kick STURGEON.

  • @wildthing6668813
    @wildthing6668813 10 років тому +2

    The IFS are as independant as the government allows

  • @phantompower4519
    @phantompower4519  10 років тому +8

    Good example of BBC media bias technique of 'Labelling' on BBC Radio Scotland Crossfire 24/08/14. At close of show John Beattie uses the term 'Separatists' in selected listener email - a negative term with extremist connotations. Well done, John.
    www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04f8t6f
    Approx: 58:45

  • @mikecat23
    @mikecat23 10 років тому +2

    Vote YES

  • @phantompower4519
    @phantompower4519  10 років тому +9

    More unadulterated #BBCbias in sickeningly sycophantic Radio 4 profile of 'independent' Treasury Head Sir Nicholas Macpherson - politically partial, empire devotee, vested interests, Eton-educated, 30,0000 acre estate in Wester Ross and bankers best friend all rolled into one. No friend of Scottish independence, this is the guy behind the currency union denial.
    www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b04f8fbg

  • @phantompower4519
    @phantompower4519  10 років тому +25

    Good example of Prof Robertson's example of bias through use of 'independent experts' last night on BBC Scotland2014
    www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b04d85tx/scotland-2014-07082014 - Presenter Sarah Smith presents as independent then feeds loaded questions to Dr Angus Armstrong who is given full 10 minutes to attack Salmond on currency. Armstrong is from the National Institute of Economic and Social Research (NIESR) an 'independent' research organisation located in the City of Westminster, London.
    "Angus Armstrong spent most of his working life at the Treasury before moving to the NIESR, where his 'referendum' work is funded by .... Vince Cable's Westminster department (as is the IFS 'Scotland and the UK' series of papers)." - Eric24A

    • @chrissiboi1
      @chrissiboi1 10 років тому +9

      There is no independent research organisations they are all loaded with a particular bias. This has been how the UK is drowning in propagandabut as its frames by these 'independent organisations' by the BBC another 'independent' organisation.

    • @dcanmore
      @dcanmore 10 років тому +11

      chrissiboi1
      Who pays the piper calls the tune.

    • @vanianfewfew3819
      @vanianfewfew3819 10 років тому +1

      dcanmore this is a rich country....

    • @vanianfewfew3819
      @vanianfewfew3819 10 років тому +1

      David Davies The price of lamb will be increased?
      baaaaa abaaaaaa baaaa

    • @vessel1973
      @vessel1973 10 років тому +3

      David Davies Ah wee bit like what yer auldman done to you then David !

  • @Cybopath
    @Cybopath 10 років тому +1

    Interesting. I've always said the difference between CNN and the BBC is the BBC are subtle.

  • @StuartSeaton
    @StuartSeaton 10 років тому +2

    I've noticed that for a long time with the BBC, they always end with their own negative, biased view point.

  • @denkomandor6658
    @denkomandor6658 10 років тому +10

    Hello from Russia! Freedom SCOTLAND !!!
    FREEDOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Only do not give away the british navy and nuclear weapons!

  • @thekolstad
    @thekolstad 10 років тому +1

    how unsurprisingly spooky.. er, I mean TRUE.

  • @MashX.
    @MashX. 10 років тому +1

    Awesome Research!!!!! This is nice.

  • @ravenslaves
    @ravenslaves 10 років тому +3

    I find this very interesting. The continued focus on the economic impact betrays a much deeper fear. It's not the effect on the economy that has them worried, it's the possibility of having an alternative within driving distance, that has them worried. People will be able to "vote with their feet", as it were. Don't like a particular tax in England, move to Scotland. And if Scotland starts doing well economically, or socially, then that'd put the burden to change things in London as well. The monopoly would be gone. This has more to do with social, rather than economic, stability.
    I'm curious to see how this all plays out, and wish nothing but the best for all concerned.

  • @alanski2005
    @alanski2005 10 років тому +1

    Excellent video!

  • @11nytram11
    @11nytram11 10 років тому

    I am unsurprised by his finding that the media prefer to focus on bad stories because they do that with every subject not just Scottish Independence.

  • @MrBeaubonomm
    @MrBeaubonomm 10 років тому

    I'm from QUEBEC (part of Canada) and in 1995 our referendum has been stolen by federalists so don't move back, Thursday go put your "X" beside YES, DON'T believe promises from the UK, don't be influenced by cheers and sympathy coming from UK, don't fear, you can reach your goal.
    In Quebec since 1995 we have lost lots of decision power within Canada. In 1995, the week before referendum, Canada was even GIVING airplane tickets across the country so people could come to Quebec and beg us not to separate... Biggest bullshit EVER!
    Do it for us, this could light up the separatist flame again. Thanks and good luck!

  • @Horsbreh
    @Horsbreh 7 років тому

    3 years on, nothing has changed.

    • @toyotaprius79
      @toyotaprius79 4 роки тому

      Nothing may change in decades, and decades may come to change in weeks.
      And holy fuck lads, ain't we seeing that now.

  • @ScotlandToday
    @ScotlandToday 10 років тому

    BBC and ITV should maybe extensively reconstruct their bias approach.

  • @Iazzaboyce
    @Iazzaboyce 10 років тому

    Jane Hill actually commented live on BBC news that the yes campaigners thought the BBC news coverage was "too biased".

  • @jdgrahamo
    @jdgrahamo 10 років тому

    I recall thinking when the results were announced that if it weren't for the BBC, Scotland could well have gained independence. It was obvious to me as a mere observer that their coverage was largely against separation.
    There are other devices they use regularly, such as the word 'admitted' rather than 'said', or to repeat a claim despite knowing that it is false.They seem to rely to a large extent on stories from the newspapers, and the few correspondents they have left are all sent to the most active war-zone (or, rather, to some hotel as safe distance from where the events are actually taking place).
    Thank you for confirming my suspicions that the media are not entirely unbiased, despite insisting that they are.

  • @haggis230
    @haggis230 10 років тому +2

    Great video.

  • @phantompower4519
    @phantompower4519  10 років тому +3

    Professor Robertson's Research on Media Bias:
    issuu.com/creative_futur/docs/robertson2014fairnessinthefirstyear
    issuu.com/creative_futur/docs/robertson2014goodmorningscotland

  • @RevDevilin
    @RevDevilin 10 років тому +1

    Well made nice links,a thank you from a sasanach :D

  • @marira5930
    @marira5930 10 років тому

    That must be an endlessly busy job.
    I noticed that the day before the voting, I received emails from one currency company announcing that if there was a vote for separation, the pound would likely de-value 10%. This was a fear-mongering announcement in my view, although it was masquerading as a chance to buy alternative currency and make some cash, to gamble on the outcome.

  • @secretmandarin
    @secretmandarin 10 років тому +1

    This is great. Thanks for making this video - thank goodness for social media in this referendum debate. It's made finding a way through the web of media opinion, politicians' comments and big issues possible for ordinary people.

  • @davehas12
    @davehas12 10 років тому +1

    Ah .. the long tentacles of English Imperialism are still alive and well.

  • @phantompower4519
    @phantompower4519  10 років тому +2

    My new film THE NUMBERS GAME is just out - a critical look at the dark art and politics of opinion polls with the brilliant James Kelly of ScotGoesPop
    THE NUMBERS GAME - Politics & Polling in the Independence Referendum
    scotgoespop.blogspot.co.uk

  • @SeanMauer
    @SeanMauer 10 років тому

    I don't get it, If Scotland wants independence, then why would it want into the EU? This is a contradiction.

  • @iaincamdk
    @iaincamdk 10 років тому

    Why is Alistair Darling not asked about what an independent Scotland would do to him personally? He'd lose that flat and job in London, opportunity to schmooze with business people, world leaders, celebs... you too Charles Kennedy. Why not declare your own personal interests in the debate. Then there are the journalists who one day want to be James Naughtie or Kirsty Wark. The big important media person in London is their career aim.
    As Prof Robertson says, the idea of impartiality is ridiculous. And Reporting Scotland, why is your back drop the view out your own window? What does that mean to people outside Glasgow? Are you not the first to complain of a London dominated media...

  • @MorganJServices
    @MorganJServices 10 років тому

    I have a question. Is it possible for the same destabilization and civil war to erupt in Scotland as what happened in Ireland over independence?

  • @johnnynada2511
    @johnnynada2511 10 років тому

    Hope you're going to update this!

  • @videocurios
    @videocurios 10 років тому

    Theirs been too much sucking up to Scottish nationalists in the old days they would have got their independance in Botany Bay. Nationalism is a dangerous mindset yesterday the two faced lieing little toad Alex Salmond had to separate himself from one of his close cronies or is it crankies when the cronie went on about "A Day of Reckoning for business bods who had warned against voting yes" If Scotland get independance,and as sure as the day is long as independant Scotlands miniscule economy spirals down,and the benefits system in Scotland collapses then their is every chance we here in blighty could end up with Northern Ireland situation on our doorstep as desperation settles in,but this time linked by land to us. David Cameron and Ian Duncan Smith have been the best recruiters to the SNP,that the Scottish nationalists ever had,the only problem is and for once I agree with Cameron Independance for Scotland to rid them of the Tory party is not just for Christmas,its permanent,and a country of 5 million people and only about a third of them in paid employment cannot after 300 years of being bankrolled by England suddenly maintain the modern needs of the Scottish population. The Scots already have their own cultural differences which will always be there and are commendable,but seperating from your UK family will bring you nothing but economic disaster there is no pot of gold at the end of the SNP rainbow other than for more here today gone tomorrow nest feathering politicians aka the SNP junta,

  • @frankandersson1406
    @frankandersson1406 10 років тому

    It is totally natural for England to push and pull for a no vote. Self interests are natural, as natural as Scotland's quest to be ruled by government of Scotts alone, by Scotts alone, for the Scotts alone.

  • @22grena
    @22grena 10 років тому

    Come on Scotland, believe in yourselves and ignore the fear mongers. Remember what Goethe said:
    Until there is commitment, there is hesitancy,
    The chance to draw back, always ineffectiveness,
    Concerning all acts of initiative (and creation),
    There is one elementary truth the ignorance
    of which kills countless ideas and splendid plans:
    That the moment one definitely commits oneself,
    Then Providence moves in too.
    All sorts of things occur to help one that would
    never otherwise have occurred.
    A whole stream of events issues forth from the decision,
    Raising in one’s favour all manner of unforeseen
    Incidents and material assistance which
    No Man could have dreamed would have come his way.
    Whatever you can do or dream you can,
    begin it.
    Boldness has genius, power, and magic in it.
    Begin it now.

  • @emersonb.6346
    @emersonb.6346 10 років тому

    Perhaps the BBC was reporting more negative things about independence than positive because the REALITY is there are more things negative than positive about Scottish separation.

  • @paulgeddes9858
    @paulgeddes9858 9 років тому

    has there been a follow up study on this for the last year up to the referendum?

  • @dailypolittics1051
    @dailypolittics1051 10 років тому

    Scotland independence VOTE we say NO @ daily polittics

  • @groMMit1981
    @groMMit1981 10 років тому

    Hmm would the BRITISH broadcaster be biased in favour of Britain, wow, shocking.

  • @zhidapang8825
    @zhidapang8825 3 роки тому

    Support Scotland free from English regime..

  • @bloodhound9638
    @bloodhound9638 3 роки тому

    This should be a much bigger scandal, than some Diana pish from the 90s

  • @davelister1
    @davelister1 10 років тому

    Who wants Boris J as the PM ? Remember what Thatcher done to Scotland last time we had a vote and failed to get away ! We did not vote in to the UK !

  • @DerAua
    @DerAua 10 років тому

    Isn't the focus on bad news typical for the media?

  • @craighouston1150
    @craighouston1150 3 роки тому

    The IFS and OBR are not independent. They will provide forecasts which are in line with what the UK govt wants them to.

  • @MDOY79
    @MDOY79 10 років тому

    think it's a case of Turkeys not voting for Christmas when it comes to the BBC and Scottish independence. My only hope for a yes vote is that our parliament strongly regulates a national media service with a mandate of impartiality.

  • @cuoreveneto2392
    @cuoreveneto2392 10 років тому

    Freedom does not need complicated explanations to support!
    Freedom make rich and is the power for every kind of negotiation!
    Blackmail has a guilty conscience and is weak and fragile!
    W Freedom and sovereignty of the people in their own land!
    Scotland will be one of the richest country of Europe!
    Veneto is with Scotland and we also will be independent as soon!

  • @jimd9110
    @jimd9110 10 років тому

    Conflict of interest = no publication in impartial refereed media
    Publishing it yourself is even less credit worthy than wikipedia
    'Find a Professor who disagrees with me and call me in'? WTF?

  • @bumfie
    @bumfie 10 років тому +2

    brilliant vid thank you for share
    shared

  • @johndavies9589
    @johndavies9589 10 років тому

    If Scotland votes Yes they'll have a separate time zone. When it is 2014 in the UK, in Scotland it will be 1707.

  • @lawrencetarget3059
    @lawrencetarget3059 10 років тому +1

    What you didn't cover was the use of emotive language in the constructed and scripted reporting, I think the use of negative descriptive words to add flavour and bias to the reports is a major consideration.

    • @phantompower4519
      @phantompower4519  10 років тому +1

      Very good point. Reviewing material, I lost count of the amount of 'major blows' Alex Salmond has had.

  • @volaan1842
    @volaan1842 10 років тому

    5m people , GDP 162b , we'll get by i'm sure, vote yes.

  • @kylegibson2314
    @kylegibson2314 10 років тому +2

    Vote YES!

  • @emmmoo8631
    @emmmoo8631 10 років тому

    very good , loved this video, am not in scotland, but watching how debates and everything rolls out, and I can say all I have witnessed on mainland UK is nothing but pure filth ocastrated against Alex salmond, not sure if the scots are fully aware of how much sensational news they have printed over last 6 months about alex salmand this etc etc all set him up for a fail and try to white wash by creating scandal, this is no doubt a atypical ploy that has been used many many times. People need to ask themsleves if the british had any respect what so ever over the elected leader would they permitt this scandal and entertain it? I DONT THINK SO...scottish better wake up now before its too late, not only that people firmly in england believe the scottish dont really have a chance and will vote 'no' as they will have no where to turn with westminster dictatorial propaganda flying at them, the no vote is secure! Once again the scottish are being twarted, and being lead down a path by Westminster! The economic arguments as now more clearer than ever especially about oil, jobs, currancy- alex salmond spells it out, it seems like future will be good if independant.

  • @1990dave
    @1990dave 10 років тому

    England should just become a new state in America

  • @c4hsr
    @c4hsr 10 років тому +1

    i lift my hat to Professor John Robertson. he did his job and the bbc tried to hang him for it. A man with morals well done sir.

  • @c-9233
    @c-9233 10 років тому

    The reference is swayed in that "No" is a negative word. You could get an 'academic' to look into that

  • @Eric24A
    @Eric24A 10 років тому

    ... and Angus Armstrong spent most of his working life at the Treasury before moving to the NIESR, where his 'referendum' work is funded by .... Vince Cable's Westminster department (as is the IFS 'Scotland and the UK' series of papers).

  • @tonyhopkinson8169
    @tonyhopkinson8169 10 років тому

    When did you last vote tory Scotland? Nothing more needs to be said....

  • @georgehunter2124
    @georgehunter2124 2 роки тому

    " the governments independent forecaster"- Really? How?

  • @RainbowWorrior121
    @RainbowWorrior121 10 років тому

    A breath of fresh air, thank you. This is an article posted on 31 August 2014 by the Grimsby Telegraph which I never knew existed, the headline reads "Good news the economy is better now than before the recession" www.grimsbytelegraph.co.uk/Good-news-economy-better-recession/story-21941908-detail/story.html Yet been kept quiet around the country, wonder why?
    Changing the masters of who we are made to serve is not going to deal with the problems of the common man, only exacerbated them as this is going to cost us either way!

  • @MrOrbula
    @MrOrbula 10 років тому

    Its a microcosm of our lives. We are either guided by our heart or by fear. It is only us that knows what feels good and what doesn't. Following the path that feels good to us rather than one rooted in fear is the path that attracts riches of every kind. Follow yourself and everything else will fall into place.

  • @casperwallace9685
    @casperwallace9685 10 років тому

    There should be in investigation into the BBC, and its good example to lose their licence

    • @Stafnger
      @Stafnger 10 років тому

      LOL. Investigation? What do you actually think the purpose of the BBC is or have ever been, other than to manufacture consent? Panem et circenses. Oldest trick in the book. It is used everywhere, and with great success.

    • @casperwallace9685
      @casperwallace9685 10 років тому

      Its a embarrassment, and recognised all over the bais in the referendum.....The should be impartical........they are not. They should lose their licenese........

    • @TheHeraclion
      @TheHeraclion 10 років тому

      i want to stop paying the license fee because i never watch the shitty,tory bbc

  • @clintockmaconaghie3763
    @clintockmaconaghie3763 10 років тому

    YES Mel Gibson should pay for the entire Referendum costs. Get your Check/Cheque Book out Mel - make us proud of yee Son.

  • @smurfandturfer
    @smurfandturfer 10 років тому

    Well it doesnt matter if the bad reasons are bad, who cares if they are biased towards them if they are true

  • @StuartSeaton
    @StuartSeaton 10 років тому

    Bit puzzled as to why he ends by saying the BBC 'is the most important voice in Scotland'. Does he mean it is the most important, or is he simply referring to the fact that it is CONSIDERED to be the most important voice in Scotland by the majority of people. I think I just answered my own question there, but in any case having just illustrated the BBC's tendency to finish with negative tones or their side of the argument it just seems like an odd place to end the clip.

  • @heello2u465
    @heello2u465 10 років тому

    So Scotland will vote yes? I have asked two or more Scottish people and they think so. ^^

  • @thorfinngeddes700
    @thorfinngeddes700 10 років тому

    Experts are predicting the UK debt is likely to double by 2018. This is the same UK that 'Better Together' claim we Scots should 'stick with', amid warnings of the dire financial consequences we will face if we do not. While I am no financial genius I would hazard to say that sticking with a Union that continues to borrow money, thereby increasing the budget deficit, it will never be able to repay, is akin to fiscal suicide for Scotland. Those revenues accrued from the extraction of the oil in the North Sea will, if it remains in UK hands, be frittered away, in much the same manner, it has been for the past 40 years. We don't need the UK, the UK needs us or, at least, our resources, until they run out.

  • @willieboy4508
    @willieboy4508 10 років тому

    so if an "independant" expert gives a positive view on independance issues professor Robertson will also question their bias? I have always thought of the BBC as biased but is the professor any better?
    As for discussing his findings, he himself said his research took over a year, I think it doubtful that many will qualify to challenge him, and in that year of study did the professor find any bias in the "experts" that the yes campaign fielded?

    • @phantompower4519
      @phantompower4519  10 років тому

      Prof Robertson weighed both stances on independence and there was imbalance found in the reporting towards No. He admits the effect of this is hard to prove but the main issues were the emphasis on bad news about the future of independence and the techniques used.
      I get your point about the difficulty of getting a second opinion. The question here is why isn't the BBC, who have a duty to provide impartiality and balance written into their charter, measuring and moderating bias themselves?