When Lions Ruled Europe

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  • @G-Mastah-Fash
    @G-Mastah-Fash 2 роки тому +229

    I always found it strange that cavemen seemed to have a better grasp of drawing anatomy and persepective in their paintings than 90% of medieval artists.

    • @forickgrimaldus8301
      @forickgrimaldus8301 2 роки тому +60

      Its because in Medieval art it was on purpose, the art style of the Medieval period was more stylized than Rome and later, where realism is focused.

    • @itzhellraptor._.9923
      @itzhellraptor._.9923 2 роки тому

      @@forickgrimaldus8301 just admit that it was ugly man

    • @sambeaumont4337
      @sambeaumont4337 2 роки тому +51

      A lot of medieval artists based their bestiary illustrations on second- and third-hand accounts, so it’s inevitable that they’d be terrible. The Cro-Magnons and other prehistoric artists depicted animals that they interacted with on a routine basis.

    • @Rephundos
      @Rephundos Рік тому +21

      I imagine if you carve up animals on the daily you become very familiar with how they physically are

    • @BananLord
      @BananLord Рік тому +4

      ​@@sambeaumont4337 explain why the cats, dogs and all farm animals look weird in medieval art

  • @craigstephenson7676
    @craigstephenson7676 4 роки тому +1114

    How to name a Pleistocene mammal:
    Step 1: discover it
    Step 2: find a modern mammal it looks like and is related to
    Step 3: add cave or wooly to the name

    • @Apokalypse456
      @Apokalypse456 4 роки тому +76

      Ohhh, thats where wooly mammoth comes from. WAIT.

    • @whynottalklikeapirat
      @whynottalklikeapirat 4 роки тому +80

      Or "saber tooh" ... in the days when "Saber Tooth Field Mice" ruled the world.

    • @nayeemhaque1064
      @nayeemhaque1064 4 роки тому +19

      Woolly man?

    • @whynottalklikeapirat
      @whynottalklikeapirat 4 роки тому +10

      @Freddythegreat09 Shriplton Smilodon Corleone

    • @whynottalklikeapirat
      @whynottalklikeapirat 4 роки тому +9

      @@nayeemhaque1064 I've seen him down at the beach as a kid. He would come around to watch the sunset, only in his shorts and his magnificently curly gorilla shirt ...

  • @SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist
    @SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist 4 роки тому +1386

    It's amazing that during the Ice Age animals that we typically associate with Africa such as lions, hyenas, elephants, and rhinos coexisted with animals we typically associate with North America such as bears, wolves, elk, and bison.

    • @diegocaceresmarquez5007
      @diegocaceresmarquez5007 4 роки тому +193

      North America? We still having bears, wolves, elks and bisons in Europe, actually Eurasia, and even more during Ice Age times.
      Tipical of a world ruler wannabe Yankee...

    • @alexl572
      @alexl572 4 роки тому +27

      ​@@diegocaceresmarquez5007 This maybe be true or may be, we have little/no evidence of some of those creatures surviving. Also, why incinerate the to claim it's due to wannabe Yankees' its a hyperbole.group this all having anything to collective hate. wannabe Yankees'.

    • @harislittle9241
      @harislittle9241 4 роки тому +104

      Not to mention Giant sloths, American cheetahs, giant beavers and armadillos, as well as all the other interesting megafauna from South America and Australia that early humans wiped out

    • @diegocaceresmarquez5007
      @diegocaceresmarquez5007 4 роки тому +39

      @@alexl572 Wannabe Yankees no, I tried to say wannabe world ruler yankee (or a yankee world ruler wannabe, honestly I don't what is the correct form), a person from the USA that thinks the only important and the best country in the world is USA ignoring the rest of the world.
      Sorry for my not correct english, my bad.

    • @SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist
      @SpinosaurusTheProudSocialist 4 роки тому +100

      @Diego Cáceres Márquez Did I say those animals are only found in North America? No, I said we typically associate those animals with North America. Lions, hyenas, elephants, and rhinos can all be found in Asia, yet we typically associate them with Africa. It's true that bears, wolves, elk, and bison can all be found outside of North America, but we typically associate them with North America.
      I don't want to rule the world, nor do I believe that the USA is superior to European countries. And I don't appreciate you implying that I do or you putting words in my mouth either.

  • @jasepoag8930
    @jasepoag8930 4 роки тому +855

    From the title, I thought this was PBS Eons for a second.

    • @needfoolthings
      @needfoolthings 4 роки тому +26

      I was relieved when I neither heard Ms Squeaky nor saw Nerd McBadtaste.

    • @UmbraXCVII
      @UmbraXCVII 4 роки тому +2

      @@needfoolthings Mr squeaky? 😂

    • @Zakimals
      @Zakimals 4 роки тому +40

      @@needfoolthings yeah PBS eons is interesting but the way the people present it is childish and annoying

    • @needfoolthings
      @needfoolthings 4 роки тому +15

      @@UmbraXCVII Ms. As in MISS. Girl. You know, the one with ... the voice. Which may be caused by her veeeeeeeeerrry tight pants. I wasnt sure tight pants had this effects on girls, too, but there she is squeaksplaining paleontology to me.

    • @needfoolthings
      @needfoolthings 4 роки тому +9

      @Zach Jones I get it. From your comment, I also know what age bracket you must be in.

  • @thenerdbeast7375
    @thenerdbeast7375 4 роки тому +505

    Did anyone notice that based on the cave art cave lions might have had more prominent tear markings like that of cheetahs than that of African lions? An adaptation to cut down on snow glare perhaps?

    • @spaceartist1272
      @spaceartist1272 4 роки тому +6

      Lion Heart sure,! cheetas are on snow all the time you re right..

    • @thenerdbeast7375
      @thenerdbeast7375 4 роки тому +172

      @@spaceartist1272 If you are gonna be sarcastic at least be smart enough to spell. Cheetahs use their marking to cut down on sun glare, snow glare can also be blinding so it might make sense to have some built in eye protection.

    • @spaceartist1272
      @spaceartist1272 4 роки тому +2

      Lion Heart why cheetas just dont use sunglasses! easy enough!

    • @Vespuchian
      @Vespuchian 4 роки тому +54

      I noticed that myself. It's not in all the examples of cave art shown in the video, but tear lines are depicted often enough I suspect it might have been present on individuals. Didn't see any on the preserved cubs but it may have been regional or seasonal (wild guessing here).

    • @spaceartist1272
      @spaceartist1272 4 роки тому

      Lion Heart its gepard on my language why should i call it monkey 🐒

  • @floot1919
    @floot1919 4 роки тому +1056

    For the lion man sculpture “religious purposes” usually means archeologists and anthropologists have no idea what it was for.

    • @woodenbean7424
      @woodenbean7424 4 роки тому +268

      It was clearly one of the earliest examples of a fursona.

    • @TheZapan99
      @TheZapan99 4 роки тому +187

      It could be the first action figure ever, from the series of shaman tales "The Adventures of Lion-man" is an hypothesis of equivalent validity.

    • @karlkarlos3545
      @karlkarlos3545 4 роки тому +42

      yeah it certainly was just a stone age action figure. Damn someone beat me to it.

    • @woodenbean7424
      @woodenbean7424 4 роки тому +51

      @@TheZapan99 Lol, love your theory. In all seriousness, I would think that whoever made it may have been hoping to "harness" or channel the power of lions. If someone held it and carried it around, perhaps they were also hoping for protection.

    • @TheZapan99
      @TheZapan99 4 роки тому +53

      @@woodenbean7424 Do you mean the carrier held up the figure and shouted "By the power of Gray-Lion, I have the power!"

  • @brobamathegreat7527
    @brobamathegreat7527 4 роки тому +250

    The Barbary lion maybe the last lion subspecies in modern history to went extinct after their ice age cousins.

    • @MarkVrem
      @MarkVrem 4 роки тому +14

      Simba killed him

    • @daliborjovanovic510
      @daliborjovanovic510 4 роки тому +35

      According to recent studies, there are only 2 lion subspecies, the southern lion (P. leo melanochaita) and the northern lion (P. leo leo) which includes the Barbary lion and Asiatic lion, so technically it's not extinct but still very endangered.

    • @thegodfather_8455
      @thegodfather_8455 4 роки тому +26

      @@daliborjovanovic510 yes if im correct 90% of lions in European zoos are Barbary lions and with selective breeding can become "pure" and it's said their two pure Barbary lions in the morrocan royal zoo

    • @RRW359
      @RRW359 4 роки тому +16

      @@thegodfather_8455 A lot of zoos in North Africa and Europe claim to have Barbary Lions, but most are reluctant to allow DNA tests and the few that have been tested have found a lot of hybridisation with extant lions, although they do have some Barbary DNA.

    • @thegodfather_8455
      @thegodfather_8455 4 роки тому +1

      @@RRW359 yes I know their not pure but with enough selective breeding they potentially can become genetically "pure"

  • @pinkdaruma8942
    @pinkdaruma8942 4 роки тому +62

    I'm always impressed by the amount of detail in prehistoric art. People tend to forget they were humans just like us and had the same capabilities. It's just that our society evolved.

    • @briangarcia7384
      @briangarcia7384 3 роки тому +6

      Actually it is even possible that ancient humans had higher intelligence but that it had started to decline from around the last few thousand years.

    • @pt.bonesy
      @pt.bonesy Рік тому +2

      @@briangarcia7384 I can fully believe we’ve gradually lost intelligence.

  • @manichaean1888
    @manichaean1888 4 роки тому +72

    If I remember the Ancient Greek mythology correctly, they fought with lions every now and then. Means the European lions still lived about 2500-3000 years ago.

    • @m.wallace2705
      @m.wallace2705 3 роки тому +25

      And later than that. The very last lion population in Europe was a population in the Transcaucasia area in the middle ages (10th Century AD).

    • @Dennodq
      @Dennodq 3 роки тому +10

      @@m.wallace2705 those were modern lions

    • @akapbhan
      @akapbhan 3 роки тому +8

      Those are not cave lions but asiatic lions

    • @arolemaprarath3248
      @arolemaprarath3248 3 роки тому +2

      @@Dennodq Is there way to resurrect the Cave lions? Along with Woolly Mammoth, Woolly Rhino, Saber-tooth, terror bird, etc.

    • @agonzalez7095
      @agonzalez7095 3 роки тому +3

      @@arolemaprarath3248 We have preserved cave lions and woolly mammoths.

  • @ndinawechamunda6633
    @ndinawechamunda6633 4 роки тому +137

    Cave lions are genuinely remarkable.
    Could you also make a video about their American cousin (the American Lion), please?

    • @chriscurran7756
      @chriscurran7756 3 роки тому +3

      Or the American cheetah which I believed evolved into the modern mountain lion!!???

    • @nownow1681
      @nownow1681 3 роки тому +1

      @@chriscurran7756 the american cheetah didn't evolve into the mountain lion

    • @chriscurran7756
      @chriscurran7756 3 роки тому +12

      @@nownow1681 the American cheetah and the cougar both had a common ancestor and only by parallel evolution people thought it was related to the African cheetah. According to Wikipedia......

    • @Bradchoksondik
      @Bradchoksondik 3 роки тому +3

      @@chriscurran7756 they could share an ancestor but the cheetah didnt turn into a cougar lol

    • @chriscurran7756
      @chriscurran7756 3 роки тому

      @@Bradchoksondik me and you have got a common ancestor but we're not different species 😂

  • @denistyrant
    @denistyrant 4 роки тому +964

    African Lions: Who are you?
    Cave Lion: I’m you but *Stronger.*

    • @bskec2177
      @bskec2177 4 роки тому +132

      Also with a decent haircut. Hippie.

    • @Spongebrain97
      @Spongebrain97 4 роки тому +63

      @@bskec2177 the atlas lion had a pretty good mane too. It was dark and spread from their belly to their necks

    • @jurassicroom7673
      @jurassicroom7673 4 роки тому +15

      @@Spongebrain97 Same with Cape Lions.

    • @denistyrant
      @denistyrant 4 роки тому +27

      Jurassic Room But when the modern day lions see the American Lion: MANELESS! MANELESS! MYEYES!

    • @religionisatragedy9742
      @religionisatragedy9742 4 роки тому +30

      (American lion) hold my beer

  • @comradepolarbear6920
    @comradepolarbear6920 4 роки тому +47

    200,00 B.C. "Help me steppe lion, I'm stuck"

  • @rolmodel12.
    @rolmodel12. 4 роки тому +51

    LOVE the new channel logo!
    I liked the old one, too. But, the simplified Tree Of Life-like theme, and new color scheme make for a aesthetically pleasing design.
    Good job!

  • @Jon-yy9qs
    @Jon-yy9qs 4 роки тому +19

    I really liked your display of gratitude to the ancient artists. I think it actually helped me humanise our potential ancestors. Great video, mate!

  • @BobLoblawbob
    @BobLoblawbob 4 роки тому +106

    Caveman: "Damnit kids! Quit drawing on the walls, we'll never get our deposit back. Go ahead and bury your dead grandpa, I don't care if people think we're 2 million years older."

    • @SenorTucano
      @SenorTucano 4 роки тому +1

      Bob Loblaw 👏

    • @aamirwesley8718
      @aamirwesley8718 3 роки тому +4

      How many grunts oogas and Boogas does this translation include ?

  • @christianbontempo8859
    @christianbontempo8859 4 роки тому +741

    Look Simba, everything the light touches is our kingdom.

    • @brobamathegreat7527
      @brobamathegreat7527 4 роки тому +58

      Except that shadowy place over there is ruled by your uncle.

    • @mrsanity
      @mrsanity 4 роки тому +21

      And that dark place? That, my son, is Bridgwater!

      /;Somerset joke mode off.

    • @Alias_Anybody
      @Alias_Anybody 4 роки тому +42

      Except for that foggy place over there...
      Shivers in Britain

    • @dshe8637
      @dshe8637 4 роки тому +4

      @@mrsanity 🤣😂🤣😂

    • @jurassicroom7673
      @jurassicroom7673 4 роки тому +18

      You should never go to that place...it's where our ancestors f'd up.

  • @optimalhazza
    @optimalhazza 4 роки тому +958

    In the cave, the rocky cave, the cave lion sleeps tonight, in the cave, the echoey cave, the cave lion sleeps tonight.

    • @denistyrant
      @denistyrant 4 роки тому +53

      Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    • @aproposracer855
      @aproposracer855 4 роки тому +38

      Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

    • @NoobPTFO
      @NoobPTFO 4 роки тому +45

      Aeeeeoooh wommm ba waaaaay

    • @sebastianyu5383
      @sebastianyu5383 4 роки тому +12

      Eeeeeeeeee

    • @Qbliviens
      @Qbliviens 4 роки тому +36

      In the Tundra, the icy Tundra the lions slept 23.000 years ago

  • @woodenbean7424
    @woodenbean7424 4 роки тому +29

    Yesss, videos on ancient animals are my favorite! Great video as usual, Ben, you are always an inspiration.

    • @TheZapan99
      @TheZapan99 4 роки тому

      Driven to extinction by early human entertainment. Thanks Rome!

  • @1MJfollower
    @1MJfollower 4 роки тому +305

    "They should be living alongside me where I am in Britain, but they are not here."
    I can feel the sadness in your heart when you said that 💔

    • @brindlebriar
      @brindlebriar 4 роки тому +22

      Well, that's a foolish sadness.

    • @Kwodlibet
      @Kwodlibet 4 роки тому +24

      Truth be told, if they did live "alongside him, right now in Britain" his next words would probably be "AAAAAAAAAAAHHH HELP! AAAAAHH!....OH GOD NOOOO! AAAAGHHHH!"

    • @h.b.hatecraft953
      @h.b.hatecraft953 4 роки тому +10

      Well if nothing changes we won't have any English left in Britain soon either.

    • @zennyfieldster4220
      @zennyfieldster4220 4 роки тому +6

      Mr. Little City yes sad, but at least he doesn’t have to worry about lions breaking into his house for a snack like they did for cave bears.

    • @Chris-jw8vm
      @Chris-jw8vm 4 роки тому +11

      Scew that. I rather like being able to walk the countryside with needing to bring a bazooka for person protection.

  • @henry-thepizzaeater-morgan704
    @henry-thepizzaeater-morgan704 4 роки тому +85

    Like your new Profile Pic. I think covering the eurasian megafauna before and at the start of the holocene would be great, not many people are familiar with it.

  • @LauraTeAhoWhite
    @LauraTeAhoWhite 4 роки тому +11

    Those cave drawings of the lions is really well done. Its clear that our early ancestors had an understanding of point perspective and how to draw in proportion.

  • @jokuvaan5175
    @jokuvaan5175 4 роки тому +275

    I think for April fools day you should do a video of "the evolutionary history of furries" and use the human-animal statues as proof of cave-furries etc ;P

  • @Tony-ey8ne
    @Tony-ey8ne 4 роки тому +18

    I just want to say thank you for making videos like this!! Love your walking with dinosaurs series too :)

  • @Zeruel3
    @Zeruel3 4 роки тому +20

    I read The Missing Lynx a few months ago, it's amazing what wild animals and megafauna were in the UK until very recently in palaeontological terms, it would be amazing to see Lynx, Wisent and Wolves back here

    • @davidbarnard860
      @davidbarnard860 4 роки тому

      it would only be amazing until one of them took your baby

    • @Zeruel3
      @Zeruel3 Рік тому

      @@user-gb3rq9ol4c European bison

    • @AnnaMarianne
      @AnnaMarianne Рік тому

      ​​​@@RI-kl3giThe European sister species of the North American bison.

  • @turkeytrac1
    @turkeytrac1 4 роки тому +18

    Perhaps the figurine is an artistic rendition of a shaman in a lion pelt, or a dancer doing the same.

  • @jthomas8263
    @jthomas8263 Рік тому +4

    Asiatic Lions are Panthera Leo Leo population found in Historical Range like Arabia, Eastern Turkey, Caucasus, Mesopotamia, Palestine, Iraq, Iran and South Asia and few of these survivors lived in the Gir Forest in India's Gujarat State.

  • @dr.polaris6423
    @dr.polaris6423 4 роки тому +3

    Fantastic video! The new logo looks very professional as well.

  • @Vespuchian
    @Vespuchian 4 роки тому +8

    Love the new logo, although I'm not sold on the 'studio' style of 7DOS presentation. I'm sure it'll just take a bit of time to acclimatize.

  • @warface4881
    @warface4881 3 роки тому +8

    I remember learning about the European Lions in a Zoo Book back in the 90s. It blew my mind! That particular edition also detailed the American Lion which if I remember correctly was even bigger than it European relative.

  • @kathryncarter6143
    @kathryncarter6143 4 роки тому +1

    Absolutely great presentation! Thanks so much!

  • @niaisabroady6543
    @niaisabroady6543 4 роки тому +53

    Heynas was beefing with loins way back in the ice age.

    • @icemanchambers1207
      @icemanchambers1207 4 роки тому +8

      I think the Cave Lioness was already dead when Cave Hyenas came. So..

    • @gutemorcheln6134
      @gutemorcheln6134 4 роки тому +7

      @@icemanchambers1207 Nope? They lived together in Eurasia for thousands of years

    • @megadracosaurus
      @megadracosaurus 4 роки тому +4

      @@icemanchambers1207 Nope, they did live together. New studies even point out to the cave hyena being the dominant and most common large predator in Pleistocene Europe.

    • @icemanchambers1207
      @icemanchambers1207 4 роки тому +7

      @@megadracosaurus I haven't seen any source claiming cave hyenas "the most dominant" or "most common" predator. Bears and Wolves were the most common. And the Cave Lions were pretty much the Apex predator of Europe so no. Cave Hyena wasn't the dominant. Big Cats were.

    • @megadracosaurus
      @megadracosaurus 4 роки тому

      @@icemanchambers1207 This is a compilation of the scources I'm talking about. It also has links to the original articles. www.deviantart.com/anonymousllama428/journal/Mammoth-steppe-carnivore-ecology-645479135
      Cave hyenas were extremely succesfull and widespread throughout Pleistocene Eurasia. We found a lot of traces of their presence, and we have evidence they competed (and even dominated) a number of predators, and were even fierce rivals of prehistoric humans. The articles suggest that cave lions, while certainly apex predators, were dominated by hyenas and wolves. It also talks about some lesser discussed predators, such as Ice Age leopards. The cave lion, while high up on the food chain, wasn't the dominant apex predator as once thought.

  • @smerjeevski
    @smerjeevski 4 роки тому +1

    Awesome Video, thank you for sharing!

  • @teaburg
    @teaburg 4 роки тому +22

    Just a thought... when I see these half human/half animal statues or paintings, I wonder if they are the 'demons' that haunted people during sleep paralysis. Back then they wouldn't have had the idea of alien abductions. Just something that crosses my mind.
    And the logo is perfect.

    • @ltchugacast131
      @ltchugacast131 3 роки тому +6

      I will say that ever since my recent deconversion from religion my nightmares and instinctual fears have shifted drastically from images of demons and hell to.....well being piss scared of a panther crawling out of the underbrush...with a lack of religious programming it seems the mind reverts to base fears so you may be onto something.

    • @junebunny0712
      @junebunny0712 Рік тому +1

      Not everyone who experiences sleep paralysis hallucianates, it is just one of the symptoms of sleep paralysis.

  • @ferno.x1484
    @ferno.x1484 4 роки тому +1

    I love that you are spreading awareness about the critical stage most animals are now in. Well done ❤️🙌🏻🙌🏻

  • @SonKunSama
    @SonKunSama 4 роки тому +5

    New profile logo is looking mighty fine Ben!

  • @lunamaria1048
    @lunamaria1048 3 роки тому +1

    This is by far my favorite video of yours, mainly because I love Lions so much!

  • @TheEnabledDisabled
    @TheEnabledDisabled 4 роки тому +19

    I think the person who made the sculpture was propably just making it to burn time and raise moral

    • @flightlesslord2688
      @flightlesslord2688 4 роки тому

      Its possible

    • @evanjames575
      @evanjames575 4 роки тому +2

      Yeah people like to over think things like this. Art is art and rarely does it make sense or have a purpose.

    • @TheEnabledDisabled
      @TheEnabledDisabled 4 роки тому +3

      @@evanjames575 It could have also been used a object to tell stories, which have might later made the object associated with a specieal being. But that would have been long after the original maker passing.

    • @SinethembaNgqiba
      @SinethembaNgqiba 4 місяці тому

      It still could be used for religious reasons tho​@@evanjames575

  • @therealzilch
    @therealzilch 4 роки тому +1

    Another educational and heartfelt video. Thanks again.

  • @auden5236
    @auden5236 4 роки тому +3

    Woke up to this great video. You mad my day bro.

  • @michaelvillegas7158
    @michaelvillegas7158 4 роки тому +14

    I just have to pick a bone with the assumption that the cave lion was eaten by cave hyenas because they were found in a cave together. Hyenas are scavengers and couldve dragged a corpse they found. The cave lion couldve died in its den and then years later the hyenas occupied it and chewed the bones. Nature rarely offers those dramatic battles. Its mostly scavenging and cross occupation that results in fossils being found together. If a bear skeleton from 400 years ago and a modern cemetery are discovered 10,000 years from now people are going to think it was eaten after a feast or buried ceremonially.

  • @TheMagnaknight
    @TheMagnaknight 4 роки тому +3

    One of my favourite mammals of all time! Thanks for giving them the love they deserve

  • @howieisbored
    @howieisbored 4 роки тому +2

    Love the new logo! Keep up the great work!

  • @jiriz0r
    @jiriz0r 4 роки тому +44

    Look I don’t want to be a spoilsport and I get that the sources on the lion-man hybrid state that the figure likely served “a religious purpose”.
    But you’ve got to understand that in Archaeology we label everything we don’t understand that looks weird or without a clear purpose as a “ritual object”.
    To the layman the term looks smart and sophisticated but to fellow archaeologists in the know it translates as “we have no bloody clue what it’s for but we’ve gotta call it something so ‘ritual’ it is”...

    • @alkebulanawah4242
      @alkebulanawah4242 4 роки тому

      Yeah ikr

    • @mickaleneduczech8373
      @mickaleneduczech8373 4 роки тому +1

      True. But there are some artifacts that really have to have been made for ritual purposes.

    • @dv9239
      @dv9239 Рік тому

      Lion man God is still worshipped today tho

    • @SinethembaNgqiba
      @SinethembaNgqiba 4 місяці тому

      A lion have always been seen as mighty and majestic beasts in human history it could still be for religious reasons

  • @robertfletcher3421
    @robertfletcher3421 4 роки тому +2

    Great video. The new logo is great. I like it. The set for 7DOS is very professional but does that mean Doug will have to wear his suit every time?

  • @krisaaron5771
    @krisaaron5771 3 роки тому +3

    Breaks my heart to see the little cubbies. I've always loved big cats, and these glorious animals were part of our ancestors' lives not all that long ago.

  • @zachariaszut
    @zachariaszut 4 роки тому +1

    Great Logo.
    Great Ethos.
    Great Content.
    Thanks.

  • @lindenstromberg6859
    @lindenstromberg6859 4 роки тому +5

    In 2020, cougars rule Europe's nightclubs.

  • @ShiKageMaru
    @ShiKageMaru 4 роки тому +61

    That Mane-less lion appears to have mange, and that may be why it in particular is mane-less; (which is not to say there aren't naturally mane-less males), though what I think is even more interesting is that female lions can sometimes have manes.

    • @TheZapan99
      @TheZapan99 4 роки тому +26

      There is a population of maneless lions in the Kalahari desert, where it is an adaptation to extreme heat.

    • @chancegivens9390
      @chancegivens9390 4 роки тому +9

      @@TheZapan99 what about the tsavo lions?.

    • @baneofbanes
      @baneofbanes 4 роки тому +3

      Chance Givens Exactly what I was thinking.

    • @chancegivens9390
      @chancegivens9390 4 роки тому +2

      @@baneofbanes I mean yeah the tsavo species of male lions dont have manes.

    • @user-Void-Star
      @user-Void-Star 4 роки тому

      Mane mean testosterone black mane mean more testosterone for lion

  • @kaloarepo288
    @kaloarepo288 4 роки тому +6

    Tigers once lived in parts of eastern Europe until quite recent times as well and also in Iran and the areas around the Caspian Sea.Tigers existed in these areas well into the Twentieth Century but tigers probably never lived in Africa.I wonder why -maybe because of competition with lions?

    • @jacksonpavlich8198
      @jacksonpavlich8198 3 роки тому

      Probably competition yeah, they’d occupy the same niche (that being giant death cat)

    • @dv9239
      @dv9239 Рік тому

      People cite sahara desert as the reason for tiger's limited habitat

  • @simmdevereaux3344
    @simmdevereaux3344 4 роки тому +2

    Great video like always, you should do one on the North American Lion now. I’m a Blackfeet Native American and I ask my Blackfeet language teacher a good question awhile ago, what would be the Blackfeet word for a North American Lion, and would they be big influence on our culture if they were still around.

  • @EvelynnEleonore
    @EvelynnEleonore 4 роки тому +188

    "half human, half cat ivory figures from almost 40 thousand years ago" and they say furries have no history

    • @EvelynnEleonore
      @EvelynnEleonore 4 роки тому +25

      it's from germany?
      yeah. it's furries

    • @EvelynnEleonore
      @EvelynnEleonore 4 роки тому +20

      theres more than one??? yep. these are cave person fursonas

    • @ojutay8375
      @ojutay8375 4 роки тому +9

      Darn it humans. We've been degenerate forever I guess

    • @MonographicSingleheaded
      @MonographicSingleheaded 4 роки тому +2

      Furries but no bazongas and no tiddies? Not a furry then. I REJECT

    • @sonicroachdoggjrraven3263
      @sonicroachdoggjrraven3263 4 роки тому

      Michal Zienkiewicz I don’t need bazongas to be cute :3

  • @balthiersgirl2658
    @balthiersgirl2658 4 роки тому +1

    Wonderful video I love your channel Ben G thomas

  • @mikesands4681
    @mikesands4681 4 роки тому +22

    “The main purpose of this hair...”. Well punned!

  • @hankskorpio5857
    @hankskorpio5857 4 роки тому

    One of my favorite videos so far. And since i notice youre changing things around I would just like to request you keep the current background music. I love that track and it fits your channel like a glove. Those earthy almost primitive vibes leading into the futuristic synthesizer tones. Perfect representation of humans perception of time.

  • @tyrannotherium7873
    @tyrannotherium7873 4 роки тому +7

    American lions are my favorite lions and In general liens have been my favorite animal since I was a kid

  • @nebulaentertainment3404
    @nebulaentertainment3404 4 роки тому +1

    This video was so cool to watch. It was fun learning about Cave Lions, since they aren't always shown in media, and are usually replaced with Smilodons. I was hoping to add this creature into a world for a story I was making, and now watching this, it has given a lot of cool ideas, like a cat/man creature that is worship by some cultures.

  • @sergeantsonso3490
    @sergeantsonso3490 4 роки тому +88

    the lion figurine is just the creation of the first furry
    you cant change my mind.

    • @ojutay8375
      @ojutay8375 4 роки тому +4

      First discovered* there's probably more that we just haven't found or were lost

    • @SA-121
      @SA-121 4 роки тому +1

      it's a standing bear

    • @sergeantsonso3490
      @sergeantsonso3490 4 роки тому +1

      @@ojutay8375 no, it's the creation of the FIRST furry

    • @kedarnigudkar6317
      @kedarnigudkar6317 3 роки тому

      you are a furry

  • @dumoulin11
    @dumoulin11 4 роки тому +1

    Great video and great new logo!

  • @trillionbones89
    @trillionbones89 4 роки тому +4

    6:45 Thnak you for saying Bavaria and not Germany, it's appreciated.

  • @wietsesartsythings969
    @wietsesartsythings969 4 роки тому +2

    Great video! It is always amazing to see how imensly different our ancestors world was. Do you have any sugestions on books on prehistoric art? I absolutely love those type of things. Also congrats on the new logo, it looks realy good.

  • @Fwufikins
    @Fwufikins 4 роки тому +6

    My immediate thought about the Lion Man is that shamans or particularly good hunters/fighters wore Lion pelts as a religious garment.

  • @1812over
    @1812over 4 роки тому

    Just ordered the book, looking forward to reading it. Thank you.

  • @cynofeliswildlife9967
    @cynofeliswildlife9967 3 роки тому +4

    You didn't even mention they had stripes on their hindquarters because of which they were suggested to be a tiger subspecies.

  • @mirrorblue100
    @mirrorblue100 4 роки тому

    Wow, thank you for this amazingly informative, fascinating program.

  • @MKLettis
    @MKLettis 4 роки тому +226

    One of the first figurines made by humans is a furry. Nice.

    • @Scrinwaipwr
      @Scrinwaipwr 4 роки тому +22

      I bet they used to say UWU even back then!

    • @060steve
      @060steve 4 роки тому +13

      Sgrinwaipwr more like Ugwu amirite?

    • @conways3897
      @conways3897 4 роки тому

      Animals = furrys? Pepega

    • @CS-tj3un
      @CS-tj3un 4 роки тому +1

      @@conways3897 furrys = animals with human characteristics lulw

    • @conways3897
      @conways3897 4 роки тому

      CS i know, but they think just a normal animas is a furry

  • @aaronmarks9366
    @aaronmarks9366 4 роки тому +1

    The studio looks awesome!

  • @edwinreveron870
    @edwinreveron870 4 роки тому +10

    There was an actual true lion subspecies that took over the Cape lions place in Europe, that seems to be the same subspecies as the Asiatic lions, although they call them that European lions....

  • @deborahromilly2766
    @deborahromilly2766 4 роки тому

    Outstanding well researched presentation, thank you.

  • @galaxymew
    @galaxymew 4 роки тому +6

    Unfortunately The Missing Lynx is not on Audible.

  • @ogd5074
    @ogd5074 4 роки тому +1

    Thank you so much for this video I'm so motivated to keep the low numbers of endangered species UP

  • @dshe8637
    @dshe8637 4 роки тому +36

    So these lions shall remain maneless

  • @johndifrancisco3642
    @johndifrancisco3642 4 роки тому

    Excellent logo! I love the animals within the branches.

  • @jabbarmuhammad6167
    @jabbarmuhammad6167 4 роки тому +9

    The lion is one of my favorite big cats

  • @JJAmes-mb4du
    @JJAmes-mb4du Рік тому +1

    I like how we never imagine that small figurines could just be toys for children.

  • @hognigk96
    @hognigk96 4 роки тому +7

    The second lion expansion really sounds like DLC for some game

  • @3452te
    @3452te 4 роки тому +1

    Glad to see this vid. Always wondered about European cave lion.

  • @afs6629
    @afs6629 4 роки тому +3

    I just wanna let you know that I was struggling to find something I actually wanted to do, after binging your videos, imma find a new species of animal just for you

  • @bennystropicalswimmigwolf8691
    @bennystropicalswimmigwolf8691 4 роки тому

    this is so amazing
    really enjoyed the video great job!!!!!!!!

  • @jadedmist
    @jadedmist 3 роки тому +13

    I love the sound lions make, I know it would have been terrifying for earlier humans but I love the noises. Listening to a mother grunt in grief or a male call out over his territory. I actually did my best to memorize most if not all cats species on earth currently, due to my love for wild and big cats. I also learned about a lot of extinct ones, cats are just amazing.

  • @sykens587
    @sykens587 4 роки тому

    amazing video, very educative and well written!

  • @iainhansen1047
    @iainhansen1047 4 роки тому +162

    If only humans had domesticated lions like we did dogs.
    It would be pretty baddass

    • @shaheemallah9953
      @shaheemallah9953 4 роки тому +8

      Were doing that now w white lions and tigers .... we are selectively breeding captive big cats ... again (see rome ,india, etc etc )

    • @TheZapan99
      @TheZapan99 4 роки тому +48

      Nigerian street gangs have done that with hyenas.

    • @lizerdspherex
      @lizerdspherex 4 роки тому +12

      Toxoplasmosis can only influence us so much.

    • @j0int458
      @j0int458 4 роки тому +19

      All these people(mostly rich Saudis) keeping big cats is just plain cruel, we have dogs and cats, lets leave the big cats alone

    • @bjorntheviking6039
      @bjorntheviking6039 4 роки тому +13

      It's possible that humans attempted to domesticate cheetahs, but dumped them in favor of dogs when they spread to Africa.

  • @martink9701
    @martink9701 4 роки тому

    Loving the new look of the channel

  • @drsuperhero
    @drsuperhero 4 роки тому +4

    How are they finding so many cave lions? Can geologist figure out where ice age slides happened then use ground penetrating radar to look for buried cool things like bodies?

  • @kimberlyparkhurst4925
    @kimberlyparkhurst4925 4 роки тому

    Loved watching ang listening to this video while i was cutting old jeans for future quilts. Thank you for sharing this

  • @Reglei1
    @Reglei1 4 роки тому +19

    Cave lions, cave hyenas, cave bears. caveMEN... holy hell!

    • @Robert399
      @Robert399 4 роки тому +5

      cave squirrels, cave bees, cave sharks, cave grass

    • @k.m890
      @k.m890 3 роки тому +6

      That are also cave UA-camrs.

    • @casper6405
      @casper6405 3 роки тому +3

      Cave crocs
      Cave frogs

    • @misterpin4789
      @misterpin4789 3 роки тому +3

      Cave caves

  • @sethrobinson28
    @sethrobinson28 4 роки тому +1

    That background track is sick. Who made it? Beautifully orchestrated

  • @irkendragon
    @irkendragon 4 роки тому +3

    I wonder about the accuracy of the interpretation of every piece of art as something of religious significance. As an artist, I know I started out drawing and sculpting things with no more reasoning than "I felt like it". Often art is just done for arts sake.

  • @roberthiorns7584
    @roberthiorns7584 3 роки тому

    Some very beautiful art work here if you don't mind me saying Ben,
    accompanying your narrative.
    Kind regards,
    Robert.

  • @kingofthejungle922
    @kingofthejungle922 4 роки тому +3

    Barbary lion: where are you?
    Africa lion: i am In Africa but no one can’t beat me yet!

  • @suecastillo4056
    @suecastillo4056 3 роки тому

    Not my fav animal BUT I do LOVE and enjoy your docus!!! Great vid as usual, and I respect the info you share! I learn! Thank you dear heart! I am a fan always!!!🙋‍♀️💕‼️

  • @batspidey7611
    @batspidey7611 4 роки тому +49

    Do you think we can bring back cave lions by getting DNA from the dead cubs?

    • @ExtremeMadnessX
      @ExtremeMadnessX 4 роки тому +26

      Cloning extinct animals is exciting, but for now we should use that technology to save living species.

    • @brobamathegreat7527
      @brobamathegreat7527 4 роки тому +16

      Eventhough they are not related, Liger is about the same size as the extinct cave lions and American lions that still alive today so you could just presume they are one :)

    • @eljanrimsa5843
      @eljanrimsa5843 4 роки тому +18

      We could let Asiatic lions roam, they still exist. The problem is they have nowhere to live.

    • @brandonshmandon1799
      @brandonshmandon1799 4 роки тому +18

      Extreme Madness Cloning isn’t exactly ideal for protecting endangered species today, considering animal populations need genetic variation which is in sharp contrast with what a clone is.

    • @ExtremeMadnessX
      @ExtremeMadnessX 4 роки тому +1

      @@brandonshmandon1799 They always could make a little changes in DNA so that wouldn't be 100% clones.

  • @Fomites
    @Fomites 4 роки тому

    Thanks. Great music too :-)

  • @flightlesslord2688
    @flightlesslord2688 4 роки тому +3

    I like to think Heracles had a fight with a cave lion

  • @ismnotwasm1420
    @ismnotwasm1420 4 роки тому

    Informative as always! I love this channel

  • @mongooseodon7608
    @mongooseodon7608 4 роки тому +8

    Maybe the “lion man” is a human with a lion skin over their body

    • @mrmoth26
      @mrmoth26 3 роки тому +1

      A furry?

    • @mongooseodon7608
      @mongooseodon7608 3 роки тому +1

      @@mrmoth26 no lol, like the coats they make out of skin, not a suit

    • @mrmoth26
      @mrmoth26 3 роки тому

      @@mongooseodon7608 Nah, it must be a furry

    • @dv9239
      @dv9239 Рік тому

      Cave Hercules?

  • @Dionaea_floridensis
    @Dionaea_floridensis 4 роки тому +1

    new channel logo is awesome dudes

  • @DraptorRonin
    @DraptorRonin 4 роки тому +31

    8:35 >Auroch looks at guy with a case of morning wood
    >me: no. no please. surely we weren't degenerates from the very start. for all that is holy.

    • @WintrBorn
      @WintrBorn 4 роки тому +2

      DraptorRonin Many polytheistic religions have a deity or deities related to sex - Priapus in Rome, for example. I'd be more surprised if our ancestors didn't have an anologue.

  • @amosjl
    @amosjl 4 роки тому

    Great video and I second the book recommendation 👍

  • @DelusionalWarriorsFanChampions
    @DelusionalWarriorsFanChampions 4 роки тому +3

    0:24 The first furries.

  • @Gungho1a
    @Gungho1a 3 роки тому +1

    Chauvet Cave, the gift that keeps on giving.