Our F1 Driver Ratings for the 2023 Singapore Grand Prix

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  • Rating all of the F1 driver performances from the 2023 Singapore Grand Prix...
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  • @NunoSalvaterra
    @NunoSalvaterra 11 місяців тому +338

    Matt and Tommy: "let's name the ratings videos F1-to-10!"
    Also Matt and Tommy: "Lance Stroll 0"

    • @connoreyestone3186
      @connoreyestone3186 11 місяців тому +26

      to be fair it is what stroll deserves

    • @thecompanioncube4211
      @thecompanioncube4211 11 місяців тому

      ​@@connoreyestone3186every time.

    • @louissouness4794
      @louissouness4794 11 місяців тому +7

      ​​@@connoreyestone3186A 0 is an insult, should be in the negative numbers

    • @GryphLane
      @GryphLane 11 місяців тому +4

      @@connoreyestone3186 I thought it was rather generous

  • @andrewcurtis4568
    @andrewcurtis4568 11 місяців тому +1134

    If Liam Lawson is not on the grid in 2024 and Lance Stroll is it will be a bloody outrage.

    • @TStizzle19
      @TStizzle19 11 місяців тому +90

      I'll guarantee it happens, unfortunately

    • @erikvermolen8371
      @erikvermolen8371 11 місяців тому +81

      plus does anybody still believe that Tsunoda is a (potential) topdriver, because I don't.

    • @frietjedemeeuw9591
      @frietjedemeeuw9591 11 місяців тому +20

      ​@@erikvermolen8371people believed that? 😂

    • @vpnconsult
      @vpnconsult 11 місяців тому +2

      No.

    • @magicjack4076
      @magicjack4076 11 місяців тому +7

      Helmut won’t let that happen as he knocked the golden boy out of q3 cause skill issue

  • @TravelGeeq
    @TravelGeeq 11 місяців тому +393

    10/10 for Matt finally being able to smile about Ferrari

  • @emmaginger7160
    @emmaginger7160 11 місяців тому +226

    I’m absolutely shook at some of the ratings. Sometimes you take into account qually, sometimes you don’t. Sometimes you give a 5 for someone who didn’t even finish 1 lap but someone who did 61/62 gets a 1. I know it means nothing but Tommy was all over the place today. Usually I agree with the ratings. Madness. 😂😂😂

    • @LFC1PG
      @LFC1PG 11 місяців тому +17

      Thats the problem with these ratings

    • @bigsmudge3232
      @bigsmudge3232 11 місяців тому +9

      And they used a photo of Lance stroll instead of Fernando Alonso.... Absolute madness

    • @Emulator833
      @Emulator833 11 місяців тому +7

      Can you give an example when they gave 5 to someone who crashed in the first lap? They give 5 for someone who didnt finish 1 lap because it wasnt their fault they didnt finish a lap so they cant judge their race so they give the average score. For example last year Leclerc crashed in France and they both gave him an F which is 1-2/10. I would say Tommy is consistent at least. But i agree that sometimes they dont consider quali.

    • @15freerun
      @15freerun 11 місяців тому +16

      Completely agree with you. I honestly was thinking 7 for Russell (8 if he didn't crash), great qualifying, hell of a race, possibly quickest car out there that day through most of it. Just that error pushing too hard, and yes it cost him all his points but it's not that big of a deal if you look at where the standings are. I'd rather see what they're made of for the rest of this season and play it safer maybe smarter next year when it all starts over again. 1 felt pretty biased

    • @Ch3mG33k
      @Ch3mG33k 11 місяців тому +13

      who cares lol its just for fun.

  • @ljkerr4497
    @ljkerr4497 11 місяців тому +724

    I don't understand how Tommy could only give Oscar a 7 then give Pierre an 8

    • @LednacekZ
      @LednacekZ 11 місяців тому +158

      because their rating is extremely arbitrary and heavily influenced by their opinion on how strong the car is.

    • @xamsedalabay6809
      @xamsedalabay6809 11 місяців тому +2

      Oscar teammate is in p7 they were generous towards Oscar.

    • @never1163
      @never1163 11 місяців тому +119

      @@xamsedalabay6809 Norris had an upgraded car

    • @ch00xd65
      @ch00xd65 11 місяців тому

      Tommy is a vanilla fraud

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 11 місяців тому +11

      I think Piastri and Gasly deserve the same grade.

  • @Stephan1988
    @Stephan1988 11 місяців тому +157

    This Sainz win is such a feel good F1 moment. I felt the same when Gasly won in Monza.

  • @belladonnaRoot
    @belladonnaRoot 11 місяців тому +48

    Piastri's race was one of those where he did extremely well, but did it so quietly that no one noticed. Including Tommy. Quali, he put up a good first lap; P7 at the time. Yes, the second lap was mediocre, but Stroll meant he didn't get a third lap. And in-race he did everything he could to gain positions without ruining the strategy that gained him 9 positions. I don't think one mediocre lap and being unable to pass Gasly at Singapore without ruining his tires deserves a drop from 10 to 7.
    And Carlos, tbh, race of the year. It's one thing for a Red Bull to break free and take off. It's another to win in the third fastest car by packing up the whole field, then bolting with Norris at the pitstop, only to use him as a shield on the last 4 laps. Managing the people behind you while managing your tires while running around Singapore while managing your team...absolutely the most deserved win of the year.

  • @j.3o21
    @j.3o21 11 місяців тому +154

    The fact Tom gave Russell a 1, and Perez a 5 is just outrageous.

    • @justinwalpole8956
      @justinwalpole8956 11 місяців тому +29

      Russel got 0 points in a car that was capable of winning. Perez got points in the 4th best car

    • @timorburmensky3870
      @timorburmensky3870 11 місяців тому +53

      ​@@justinwalpole8956at least russel didn't ruin the race of 2 otter drivers

    • @dr2165
      @dr2165 11 місяців тому +3

      @@justinwalpole8956 also with a little bit more luck, or not having totally bungled quali Max would have won that race. His Pace on his last stint was monster. The RB wasn't the 4th best car out there, Max made a rare fuck up in qualifying and Checo just did what he has been doing all season and performed incredibly mediocre.
      I am broadly ok with a 1 for George its harsh but he DNFed himself. Checo getting a 5 though is just absolutely outrageous, As is Esitban getting a 9 for DNFing himself.

    • @miltonalejandrohernandezlo4204
      @miltonalejandrohernandezlo4204 11 місяців тому

      @@dr2165 oh stfu Max didnt have a broken wing and he wasnt doing lift and cost and he literally didnt fight like Perez did, Perez asked the team to box 2 laps before he was overtook by Alonso, Gasly, Ocon and Piastri, you know why RedBull didnt pit him? because they wanted Perez to make the gap for Max, he made the 10 seconds gap fighting while Max literally let Lando, Charles and Lewis pass. And Max wouldnt won, the first stint was horrible for RedBull a,d Mercedes was literally the fastest at the end

    • @miltonalejandrohernandezlo4204
      @miltonalejandrohernandezlo4204 11 місяців тому

      @@dr2165 Also, once Perez overtook Lawson, he made a 12 seconds gap in 2 laps

  • @52347HanSolo
    @52347HanSolo 11 місяців тому +101

    Not a Max fan but I think it was his best drive of the season. That RB wasn’t good, no front end, and somehow managed P5 after two horrible safety car timing shots? Amazing. With him and Lewis clearly the two fastest cars at the end you can understand the difference between championship drivers and the pack.

    • @thecompanioncube4211
      @thecompanioncube4211 11 місяців тому +21

      He showed that you don't become WDC on accident. The way he closed that gap up to Charles was frightening. 1 -lap- corner more and he'd have passed him. I just wish they didn't get screwed over with the VSC.

    • @geertwilders4806
      @geertwilders4806 11 місяців тому +2

      What😂😂😂😂😂

    • @mcgoo721
      @mcgoo721 11 місяців тому +2

      His recovery was scary good

    • @rodsitamara
      @rodsitamara 11 місяців тому +1

      @@terencevangaalen4127 he was impeding everyone in quali and deserved penalties. charles and pierre got penalties for exact same situations this yr but max doesnt

    • @ddha0000
      @ddha0000 11 місяців тому +1

      @@mcgoo721 he wasn't really, Max massively benefited from the fact the sainz was purposely slowing the pace of the race for the the first stint which meant he and all the cars behind were much closer than they would normally be in a normal race. he also should have had a couple of penalties for qual. the second safety car did not actually cost him that much as if he had stayed out longer, the few extra laps he would have lost a lot of time as the tires were done and so the overall benefit would not be huge.

  • @cholatepnabangchang4834
    @cholatepnabangchang4834 11 місяців тому +63

    Suggestion for Matt's golden 10/10 system:
    At the end of the season, Matt and Tommy get 1 'gold buzzer' each, so that they can award to the best drive of the year. It can be worth 1 or 2 extra points or whatever arbitrary score you might suggest.
    It's not much, especially if you guys were not planning to tally up the points and calculate an average score.
    But I think a drive like Sainz's deserve a recognition in some other form than just a regular 10/10.

    • @dpot2231
      @dpot2231 11 місяців тому +1

      Or you can give an 11/10 for an outstanding result, ie a non red bull win. For example if Albon finished 6th in a race then he’s going to get a 10, but if he gets a podium he should allowed to get higher

    • @cholatepnabangchang4834
      @cholatepnabangchang4834 11 місяців тому +2

      @@dpot2231 To me, allowing to go 11/10 is going to end up in a ratings 'inflation' of sorts, get what I mean?
      If you are free to give out unlimited number of 11/10s, there will be other times in the future when you think "Oh, ___ deserves more than a 10/10." Then everybody can get an 11, and it's going to go into a vicious cycle of 12, 13, 20 out of 10 and so on.
      Plus, giving 11/10 only for non RB wins is kind of discriminating against them. Who knows, there may be times when Max really earned it for an amazing masterclass drive.

    • @sirrabhsurya5087
      @sirrabhsurya5087 11 місяців тому

      Or maybe only 1. 11/10 rating per race.
      Or make the scoring system out of 11 lol

    • @ninety_ldn
      @ninety_ldn 11 місяців тому +2

      they should just learn how to properly rate. 10's shouldnt be given out every week.

    • @dpot2231
      @dpot2231 11 місяців тому

      @@cholatepnabangchang4834 11/10 can only be given for a win and a brilliant drive and not in the best car or a podium for a back marker with a brilliant drive

  • @dylanmccarthy5404
    @dylanmccarthy5404 11 місяців тому +10

    The Piastri disrespect from 4 eyes is incredible

  • @adamcam3
    @adamcam3 11 місяців тому +34

    That 1 for Russell may be the harshest rating I've ever seen... P2 in quali and on for a podium for 99% of the race, no way you can say that's worse than the entire rest of the grid even with the shunt

    • @justinwalpole8956
      @justinwalpole8956 11 місяців тому +5

      He got 0 points in a car that was capable of winning. The only thing that matters in f1 is points, he made a huge error, which meant he got no points.

    • @HotBoyCorey
      @HotBoyCorey 11 місяців тому +2

      I agree 100%. There's no real logic behind this. He was arguably the second fastest overall driver of the weekend. Made one mistake with bad timing. That's not a rating of a 1 at all.

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 11 місяців тому +2

      @@HotBoyCorey Exactly. It’s because some people are unknowingly biased against George and they don’t realise it.

    • @066kshitizvsingh4
      @066kshitizvsingh4 11 місяців тому

      George himself would've probably agreed to the 1 imo

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 11 місяців тому

      @@066kshitizvsingh4 Because George is incredibly tough on himself. They all are.

  • @ReeceDH
    @ReeceDH 11 місяців тому +98

    Esteban and Pierre getting 9 & 8, and Oscar getting a 7 is mental…
    Verstappen got an 8 too?! Madness.

    • @los_blancos4499
      @los_blancos4499 11 місяців тому

      What do you think should change here?

    • @JaiSanthosh09
      @JaiSanthosh09 11 місяців тому

      And Perez 4???

    • @RobertoRodriguez-fe2ts
      @RobertoRodriguez-fe2ts 11 місяців тому

      Ocon is just better than Oscar🤷‍♂️

    • @sieme8282
      @sieme8282 11 місяців тому +5

      max def deserves the 8, maybe even more. the redbull was awful and finished 35s be4 perez

    • @rodsitamara
      @rodsitamara 11 місяців тому +2

      @@sieme8282 he was impeding everyone in quali and deserved penalties. charles and pierre got penalties for exact same situations this yr but max doesnt

  • @darkman030
    @darkman030 11 місяців тому +67

    You are forgetting... But Piastri is a rookie as well. You can't give 7/10 for 10 positions gained 😮

    • @crabnix
      @crabnix 11 місяців тому +1

      Damn I didn't even realise it's his first season just until your comment. He's been doing so good, even during the first half of the season when McLaren were slow.

    • @Grayfl1cks
      @Grayfl1cks 11 місяців тому

      Doesn’t matter. Tommy’s the worse. Constant Perez and Bottas hater.

  • @mr.malcolmthegreat
    @mr.malcolmthegreat 11 місяців тому +62

    I really don’t understand a 7 for oscar. I’m not sure what you could’ve expected from him, after having to abort his lap due to the crash in Q1. Can’t qualify well if you weren’t given the opportunity to qualify.
    Also to still make up 10 positions in the race is nothing short of spectacular and fully deserved at least an 8/10

    • @nisharathi4073
      @nisharathi4073 11 місяців тому +7

      if piastri got a 7 lawson should get an 8, the bias is crazy, he is a rookie too. Lawson wouldnt have been in q3 if verstappen hadnt impeaded tsunoda and if he had finished the race their ratings would have been different. Lawson has been impressive but tom rating piastri 7 is stupid

    • @JohnnyMaverik
      @JohnnyMaverik 11 місяців тому

      He inherited a lot of those positions though, it's not like he made 10 overtakes. Don't get me wrong he did well and I could see an 8 but 7 is also fairly on the money for me.

  • @lane5477
    @lane5477 11 місяців тому +43

    One thing y’all have forgotten is Mercedes were the only one that had saved a medium through practice and GR spoke about it during his interview after qualifying

    • @JIKwood
      @JIKwood 11 місяців тому

      Well leclerc didn't start on a medium so didn't he have one as well?

    • @muhammadsyafiq6121
      @muhammadsyafiq6121 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@JIKwooddidn't have a new one

    • @ElMoShApPiNeSs
      @ElMoShApPiNeSs 11 місяців тому +2

      No one has forgotten it. They wouldn't stop talking about it.

  • @Tommyplodocus
    @Tommyplodocus 11 місяців тому +323

    A 7 for Piastri is shocking!

    • @lachlansteffen1665
      @lachlansteffen1665 11 місяців тому +85

      Absolutely agree. Singapore rookie. Screwed in qualifying when Stroll bins in in front of him. None of the upgrades Norris had. 17th to 7th on a track not conducive to going forward. Inherent British bias again. When will these guys realise that Norris is just the first of many that Oscar will overcome on his way to the top. Generational talent. And Lawson gets a 10 for pottering around behind him after starting well in front of him????

    • @TheBest14184
      @TheBest14184 11 місяців тому +5

      @@lachlansteffen1665Piastri did good. Calm down though, he’s not on Landon’s level yet. He might be soon, but stop acting like he is already clear of him

    • @drugoviic
      @drugoviic 11 місяців тому

      he has been ahead of Lando twice and the team swapped them in pitstops next season Piastri will get a win bwfore lando @@TheBest14184

    • @touringband
      @touringband 11 місяців тому +28

      @@TheBest14184he’s a rookie! They gave Lawson a ten

    • @sirrabhsurya5087
      @sirrabhsurya5087 11 місяців тому +9

      The bias is real. There’s no consistency when you account for the events of the race and qualifying. Something makes me think Tommy didn’t watch this race closely since Verstappen didn’t win.

  • @Smackenty
    @Smackenty 11 місяців тому +13

    PIASTRI DESERVED AT LEAST AN 8, IF NOT HIGHER TOMMY. MATT’S RATING WAS PERFECT

  • @HoopleHeadUSA
    @HoopleHeadUSA 11 місяців тому +19

    7 for Piastri?
    1 for George?
    Savages!

    • @gatograsso
      @gatograsso 11 місяців тому +1

      how does crashing in last lap gets u good rating?

  • @vezokpiraka
    @vezokpiraka 11 місяців тому +83

    Leclerc was nursing a cooling issue since like before the VSC. He really couldn't do more. He wanted to pit during VSC, but the team read the telemetry and knew the car would break way before the end.
    I really wouldn't hold this race against Charles. Imagine the scenes if he got pole and his car broke down 4 turns before the end.

  • @Benspi
    @Benspi 11 місяців тому +240

    Charles asked to pit during the VSC and he was turned down straight away, otherwise he would've been in the final battle

    • @veljkomihajlovic4583
      @veljkomihajlovic4583 11 місяців тому +4

      On point!

    • @francesco153
      @francesco153 11 місяців тому +21

      he would have lost time with the double pitstop of mercedes

    • @saiyerugara9038
      @saiyerugara9038 11 місяців тому

      Should have got 8 maybe.

    • @adityadasari2214
      @adityadasari2214 11 місяців тому +21

      No he had engine problems at the end

    • @Benspi
      @Benspi 11 місяців тому +7

      @francesco153 not as much as he lost on old tires lol, there was an adequate gap that he wouldn't have been hampered too much and with his pace on the fresh tires he would've caught up quickly

  • @pierreyammine1599
    @pierreyammine1599 11 місяців тому +23

    Piastri only 7 is crazyyyy

  • @karthiksub
    @karthiksub 11 місяців тому +10

    Oscar gained 10 places (P17 to P7) -> 7/10
    Gasly gained 6 places (P12 to P6) -> 8/10
    Come on Tommy!

  • @s-pracing8514
    @s-pracing8514 11 місяців тому +31

    Liam is the reason we got a new race winner this season, and then topped the weekend off with points. Get that man a seat on the grid

  • @xandertreffers
    @xandertreffers 11 місяців тому +18

    I actually think it's one of the best drives of the season of Verstappen. Overtaking 2 cars while on the hard tyre. Then after getting the medium, overtaking 6 cars in just 14 laps. He did everything with ease that Russell couldn't do in many rounds.

    • @kiekiek
      @kiekiek 11 місяців тому +9

      Yeah, Max drive was every bit as good as Sainz victory. These ratings are dumb anyhow, far too much emphasis on end results while factoring out external factors.

    • @AlexSteenOlsen
      @AlexSteenOlsen 11 місяців тому

      Russell had other cars ahead bozo

    • @saiyerugara9038
      @saiyerugara9038 11 місяців тому +4

      @@kiekiek He got knocked out by his junior in qualifying whilst Sainz got pole, there can be no way they're the same.

    • @066kshitizvsingh4
      @066kshitizvsingh4 11 місяців тому

      ​@kiekiek But his quali was no where near as good

    • @kiekiek
      @kiekiek 11 місяців тому

      Because his car bottomed out like crazy during braking, and having no rear grip at all, due to to bad setup choice by his engineers. Qualifying 11th with a car with such bad drivability only outlines the quality of Max performance. Is it that hard to just watch and objectively see what happens in a raceweekend, and not only being biased because you do not like a driver and therefore neglecting all circumstances.@@066kshitizvsingh4

  • @xXkeiran1097Xx
    @xXkeiran1097Xx 11 місяців тому +6

    Oscar gained 10 positions and gets a 7 from Tom can't understand this one

  • @SusanStorm217
    @SusanStorm217 11 місяців тому +11

    Going from 11th to 2nd and then 15th to 5th, Max must have set an F1 record on that track for most passes by a driver in a single race. Don't get points for that, but did get 10 points out of the race and another story to add the legend.

    • @AzureKite
      @AzureKite 11 місяців тому

      To be fair that 11th to 2nd was during a bunch of pitstops, so he didn't actually have that many overtakes. His stint after the second pitstop was legendary, though.

  • @dylanburston7453
    @dylanburston7453 11 місяців тому +15

    Leclerc actually cost George and Lewis 2 seconds, which given their pace differnce meant they had one less lap to overtake Carlando.

  • @bourkey07
    @bourkey07 11 місяців тому +44

    9 and 7 out of 10 for Piastri making up 10 places at Singapore after being screwed in quali.... 10 out of 10 for Lawson. Please do explain? Both Rookies... Are your expectations just so high for Oscar that if he doesn't beat lando in a car without upgrades it's just not good enough? I'm not sure what more he could have done to be honest.

    • @Ramtinss
      @Ramtinss 11 місяців тому

      It's the third race for Lawson. I'm sure if Oscar did what Lawson did here in his 3rd race he would've got a 10 too.

    • @Zer0G101
      @Zer0G101 11 місяців тому +6

      7 from tommy is just stupid.... its singapore and Oscar made 10 places!!!!! at a track you cant pass....

    • @78drea
      @78drea 11 місяців тому

      ​@@Zer0G101He didn't really pass anyone on track, just with strategy and other people making mistakes.
      He still did bloody well ofc, to just not making any mistakes and taking all opportunities.
      It's brilliant.
      McLaren have gold with both their drivers.

    • @Zer0G101
      @Zer0G101 11 місяців тому

      @@78drea a 7 but…. Serious. Guy couldnt have done any better !

    • @ajwasthere
      @ajwasthere 11 місяців тому +4

      @@Zer0G101 Actually he did pass many they just didn't show them on the broadcast. But then why would they when they can show lando not passing Sainz for 2 hours.

  • @juliusfaller5585
    @juliusfaller5585 11 місяців тому +70

    I think Lawson will be a serious title contender in the future when he gets his hands on a good car

    • @ElMoShApPiNeSs
      @ElMoShApPiNeSs 11 місяців тому

      Either that or he'll never drive an F1 car again because Helmut is embarrassed by his failure with De Vries.This sport is stupid.

  • @illyricus.
    @illyricus. 11 місяців тому +64

    I’m starting to think these guys don’t actually watch the race. Bottas got screwed over by the SC just like with Max and Checo. But ofc, they don’t care about all that.

    • @smokeybandit9760
      @smokeybandit9760 11 місяців тому +10

      I feel like they only see what they want to see and don't account for everything that's happening. Although in fairness, it's kinda hard to do that, but still

    • @illyricus.
      @illyricus. 11 місяців тому +9

      @@smokeybandit9760 I agree that It can be fairly easy to miss something, but keep in mind that they’re rating a driver and they have a public that acknowledges their opinions and will probably follow suit on their opinions. It’s precisely bc of that, they shouldn’t miss anything. It’s not like they’re out of time and need to put out videos right away. They have all the time in the world to rewatch the key moments during the race. If they’re rating them, they should at least know what said driver’s race looked like.

    • @Vislow
      @Vislow 11 місяців тому +1

      And why would you care so much about the opinions of some strangers on the internet?

    • @illyricus.
      @illyricus. 11 місяців тому +7

      @@Vislow why shouldn’t I? Especially if there are facts that make their opinions irrelevant

    • @Vislow
      @Vislow 11 місяців тому

      @@illyricus. Because their personal opinions on how different drivers did should be irrelevant to anyone but themselves, regardless of facts.

  • @jsmr451
    @jsmr451 11 місяців тому +4

    Harsh on Oscar Tommy! in a non upgraded car lacking downforce, on a track hard to pass, He made 10 positions by being patient and driving it like its a Formula 1 Grand Prix. Worthy of a 9 minimum.

    • @justinwalpole8956
      @justinwalpole8956 11 місяців тому

      His first lap in q1 was 6 tenths slower than his teammate. He had a large roll in being out in Q1.

  • @jmc5885
    @jmc5885 11 місяців тому +49

    1 for Russel is WILD. He did one mistake, one. And it was a normal one to do, following the car you're trying desperately to catch. To beat Hamilton, almost hit pole, run a flawless race and strategy and hit the wall as the car ahead of you only to get a 1 is crazy, even 4 is imo. You'd think he was running on a redbull, missed q2 and crashed when he had a chance at a result or something.. Oh wait, that was Perez before and I don't even know if he got a 1 then lmao.

    • @Allblue1
      @Allblue1 11 місяців тому

      Perez is way worse dislike this video

    • @mrkos87
      @mrkos87 11 місяців тому +6

      A HUGEEEE mistake that is worth a 1/10. You don't crash in the last lap when u are in 3rd position. Rooky mistake, but he is not a rooky anymore.

    • @geraldsitorus
      @geraldsitorus 11 місяців тому +3

      @@mrkos87 "The wall just turned into me!"

    • @justinwalpole8956
      @justinwalpole8956 11 місяців тому

      He got 0 points in a car that's capable of winning. Crashing out of the race Is only one mistake, but it's a huge mistake.

    • @robh9577
      @robh9577 11 місяців тому

      It was pure sloppiness. Sure there's the latifis strolls and Sargents that make it to F1, but to be the cream of the crop you don't just drive into a wall randomly and throw away a podium on the last lap..

  • @touringband
    @touringband 11 місяців тому +7

    TOMMY - how did Oscar not get everything out of his car? Geeez … what do you want?

    • @JohnnyMaverik
      @JohnnyMaverik 11 місяців тому

      Driving to the pace of your car is the expectation not the cherry on top. He did well, he didn't do anything exceptional. A lot of his +10 positions were inherited through other's misfortune and having a clean race himself. Everybody he overtook you'd really expect him to be able to overtake. He did well, 7 is a good score. He didn't blow Tommy's socks off, get over it.

  • @Kendo47Wowgeek
    @Kendo47Wowgeek 11 місяців тому +259

    Alonso had damage to the car from the start of the race. The pit entry error was because the car couldn't turn.

    •  11 місяців тому +29

      Maybe, maybe not (for the cause of the error) and maybe his suspension was functioning but an important element broke that ruined aero efficiency. More drag, less downforce, the car was just bad. The second mistake, well I believe that was mostly because of that issue also I think he had enough. I mean the team totally ruined the pit stop, he tried what's possible. I think a 2 and a 3 are very harsh. It wasn't his best but also he couldn't do much. The car was trash.

    • @xamsedalabay6809
      @xamsedalabay6809 11 місяців тому +30

      Alonso fangirls are coming with their excuses.

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 11 місяців тому +7

      The highs of the start of the season to the lows of now. I like to think things would be better if Fernando didn't have to carry the team on his back.

    • @Glegh
      @Glegh 11 місяців тому

      ​@@xamsedalabay6809 He did get damage

    • @brunorodriguez3655
      @brunorodriguez3655 11 місяців тому +5

      You're most likely right, but still, even if this was not 100% his fault but the car, this was one of the worst races he has had. Probably the worst since his return.

  • @ChalkyWilston
    @ChalkyWilston 11 місяців тому +18

    I'm not understanding the hype around Lawson finishing 9 when you have Russell/Ocon DNFs, Stroll DNS, and Alonso stinking it in last place after mistakes. Even if you assume he beats Yuki, that would be a P13 under normal circumstances, which is about where the car ought to be. Good on him for taking the car safely to the checkered flag and being in a position to capitalize on the mistakes of others, but I don't view finishing ahead of Williams, Haas, and Alfa as indicators of mega pace.

    • @LFC1PG
      @LFC1PG 11 місяців тому +10

      But he got points, the ratings are biased by position

    • @robh9577
      @robh9577 11 місяців тому +7

      Hey hey hey, we dont use logic here. Only superfan personal opinions...

    • @TomoBystedt
      @TomoBystedt 11 місяців тому +6

      Agreed. He was consistently 3-4 tenth slower than Yuki in each session. Not bad for a first timer there but probably not a 10/10.

    • @mamavswild
      @mamavswild 11 місяців тому

      Because Lawson is a sub…a fill-in. This was his third ever race. He’s not even a rookie and he managed to get those points and was the man to knock out Verstappen in Q2…that’s why.

  • @TrustworthyFox37
    @TrustworthyFox37 11 місяців тому +141

    I think Sainz deserves an 11

    • @Persoc
      @Persoc 11 місяців тому +4

      For what

    • @karavitis
      @karavitis 11 місяців тому +1

      strategy, brilliance, "it's on purpose"

  • @MazeMouse
    @MazeMouse 11 місяців тому +11

    Interesting how you rate Alonso so low when he did most of the race with damage to his front left suspension, likely from Tsunoda debris. He had to steer slightly right on the straights to keep the car going directly forwards (Which even the commentary on sky noticed)
    Is such damage taken into account in the grading? Because right now I'd say he's deserves better for even finishing instead of having the car retired.

    • @bullymaguire14
      @bullymaguire14 11 місяців тому +1

      Right sometimes it's not all winning, it's about your fighting spirit and personality on track, I love her didn't retired and kept going

  • @61072955able
    @61072955able 11 місяців тому +29

    Albon goes from 14 to 11th, gets an 8 from Tommy, Oscar goes from 17th to 7th and gets only 7 points

    • @BeneathTHeaveans
      @BeneathTHeaveans 11 місяців тому +7

      Context, Albon in a much worse car would’ve gotten 8th if Pérez didn’t punt him

    • @JohnnyMaverik
      @JohnnyMaverik 11 місяців тому

      @@BeneathTHeaveans Don't blind him with logic.

    • @josephsun3755
      @josephsun3755 11 місяців тому +1

      ​@@BeneathTHeaveansso what? Alpha Romeo is the WORST car, Zhou started from pit, end at 12 and get a score of 6? What is the logic about that then? Not to even mention the 42lap medium tyre stuff

  • @bourkey07
    @bourkey07 11 місяців тому +35

    Matt's rating were pretty on point overall, but Tommy was all over the shop.

  • @manlikemarley2703
    @manlikemarley2703 11 місяців тому +38

    Oscar 7, Pierre 8, Ocon 9, George 1 no Logic can’t lie

    • @TheBest14184
      @TheBest14184 11 місяців тому +10

      Why?
      George binned it own his own.
      Pierre and Ocon were in front of Piastri in a worse car.

    • @Allblue1
      @Allblue1 11 місяців тому

      dislike video cuase of that

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 11 місяців тому +1

      @@Allblue1 Tommy gave Checo 5/10 too 😂. No logic.

  • @megacup3977
    @megacup3977 11 місяців тому +14

    when they talked about fernando i disagree, they didnt even see the twitters, they just rate by feelings by only watchin the race. Well if you had seen the aston twitter youwould know that fernando had a broken suspension since lap 2 and the pitstop of 30secs was a team error, I would have given him a 5 out of 10, cause his qualy was also decent

  • @kevikevkev8942
    @kevikevkev8942 11 місяців тому +163

    Yuki's unluckiness has been so frustrating this 2nd half.

    •  11 місяців тому +19

      Yeah and also that means it's very hard to compare him to Liam Lawson. Not saying Lawson isn't impressive. He's doing a perfect job so far! Deserves all the praise but Yuki is so unlucky.

    • @vi14753
      @vi14753 11 місяців тому +2

      The safe thing here is that he will mostly race for AT or whatever it's gonna be called next year. Deserves to have a ride in the Red Bull soon tho.

    • @Ramtinss
      @Ramtinss 11 місяців тому +5

      It wasn't all luck here, he messed up his second run in Q2 which is the run that is important.
      And in the crash with Perez he wasn't faultless, You can watch Perez's onboard, he should've gave Perez more space.

    • @ras_732
      @ras_732 11 місяців тому +4

      As a Yuki fan, the frustration of his bad luck is too sad, here's hoping his home race will bring some glimmer of hope~

    • @joep4life
      @joep4life 11 місяців тому

      The word for "unluckiness" is "misfortune" or "bad luck"

  • @atharvtambekar1552
    @atharvtambekar1552 11 місяців тому +16

    charles was having power unit issue that's why he couldn't offer defence to mercedes and finished 19sec behind

  • @crazycjk
    @crazycjk 11 місяців тому +66

    I'm not even a George Russell fan, but a ONE out of ten!? Steady on! Amazing in qualifying and blistering in the race right until the (untimely) end. Matt's 4/10 is far more reasonable

    • @HotBoyCorey
      @HotBoyCorey 11 місяців тому +5

      Yeah, that 1/10 was completely ridiculous and not driven by logic

    • @mpolinsk22
      @mpolinsk22 11 місяців тому +5

      @@HotBoyCorey it's more than fair. Qualifying doesn't get you points and doesn't win championships, Lewis was better in the race, and he stupidly put his car in the wall (again) through no fault but his own. He tanked at worst a 3rd place in a race he should have won. Further, no one was "blistering" in the race, at least for most of it. The only time they actually pushed was in the last dozen or so laps. And once he was pushing, he crashed himself out.

    • @ameliabarron3160
      @ameliabarron3160 11 місяців тому +1

      Was completely fair. The point of racing is to win or get points and he got neither from his own mistake.

    • @brianrasmussen2956
      @brianrasmussen2956 11 місяців тому +1

      Ok it was a rookie mistake, but I'm with you on this. This verdict is far too harsh.

    • @TheZimbeatz
      @TheZimbeatz 11 місяців тому

      @@HotBoyCorey He's Spot on. Lost a place at the start and pused Lewis wide.. Lewis had better overall race pace.. AGAIN.....despite being .5 off in qualifying.. and CRASHED after failing to pass Lando of all people..

  • @jmacd8817
    @jmacd8817 11 місяців тому +23

    Perez ruins 2 other drivers' races, and finishes 30 seconds behind his team mate AND did a crap quali, and you give HIM a 5, and Russell a 1?!?!?

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 11 місяців тому +7

      Because hating on George is the popular thing to do online. Seen it for ages.

    • @jonathanmonge4455
      @jonathanmonge4455 11 місяців тому +2

      You are right, and Perez scored points. How many points did George scored? No more questions.

  • @c-pw8fc
    @c-pw8fc 11 місяців тому +4

    Holy, Tommy's been smoking something strong this weekend. 1/10 weekend for Russel which is insanely harsh, 7/10 for Piastri which is also completely deluded. And then gives Perez a 5/10 for messing up qualifying, killing 2 other drivers in the race and then still finished 30 seconds behind Verstappen. Sort it out for next week as that was hard to listen to. Opinions are opinions but let's not base them on 5% of the facts.

    • @justinwalpole8956
      @justinwalpole8956 11 місяців тому

      Russel got 0 points in a car that was capable of winning. That's a horrendous perfomance. It doesn't matter that he was fast, the only thing that matters is the points you take home.
      Oscar was 6 tenths slower than his teammate in the first run in Q1, so he had a large role in going out in Q1.

    • @c-pw8fc
      @c-pw8fc 11 місяців тому +1

      @@justinwalpole8956 1. That is not the entire basis of these grades. If we're just to grade performance relative to car performance then the show may as well not exist.
      2. Piastri in a car without upgrades that Lando has. He was going to make Q2 but got screwed by Stroll. Things are sometimes out of your control and yes, his initial lap could have been better but in ordinary circumstances, his qualifying performance would have put him through. The same way that Albon deserves an 8 because he was punted off track should be applied here.

    • @Lucid34
      @Lucid34 11 місяців тому

      @@c-pw8fcSo what should we grade Russel on then? Getting 0 points in a car capable of winning? Repeatedly failing to overtake Norris? Slowing down his teammate behind him who could of won if he wasn’t being blocked?
      The good things he did ended up not mattering. The bad things he did lost him and his team points and a possible race win. That’s a 1/10

  • @joimirrow
    @joimirrow 11 місяців тому +11

    So tired of these overrated Albons ratings, this Williams car is decent. 2-3 for Alonso is a joke as well, bro was driving since lap 2 with damaged suspension

    • @JohnnyMaverik
      @JohnnyMaverik 11 місяців тому

      If we presume that generally, even with the upgrades, the Williams is usually slower than the Mercs, Red Bulls, Astons, Ferraris and McLarens, then 11th should be where the car is aiming to finish and he got 11th despite multiple set backs (not of his own doing) through the weekend.

  • @JnManuelAG
    @JnManuelAG 11 місяців тому +27

    1 for Russell 💀. Tom becoming the punisher is mad. 🇪🇸11 for Sainz, I agree. Eleven stars, legendary Pokémon, OP smooth operator
    🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟

    • @Persoc
      @Persoc 11 місяців тому +1

      11 for what pas de bataille rien on a juste conduit devant

  • @SammEKayy
    @SammEKayy 11 місяців тому +22

    Another miss is the fact that Charles also had an overheating issue with the engine the last 1/4 of the race, and they didn't have a fresh set of mediums to put him on anyway. Both of these have been overlooked. Most everything that happened to Charles on Sunday was not of his doing...hes just always the fall guy.

    • @AzureKite
      @AzureKite 11 місяців тому +2

      Leclerc has had some ungodly bad luck this year.

  • @sht4433
    @sht4433 11 місяців тому +3

    Aston Martin confirms that Alonso had damage on his left suspension cover since lap 2. According to AMUS, Alonso's damage to the car has cost him downforce and drag has increased. Just to mention it if u didnt know about it

  • @godfather2084
    @godfather2084 11 місяців тому +12

    Leclerc didn't have any new mediums
    People keep forgetting that

    • @JohnnyMaverik
      @JohnnyMaverik 11 місяців тому +1

      Which is surprising considering it's all Russell could talk about from FP3 to the race start.

  • @derosiflo6524
    @derosiflo6524 11 місяців тому +120

    Normally I agree more with Tommy than with Matty but this times this isn't it chief

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 11 місяців тому +56

      Yeah that Russell rating is something I’ve pointed out for ages. There is an unconscious bias against George. 4/10 or 5/10 is fine. 1/10? That’s straight hate.

    • @calebhernandez4233
      @calebhernandez4233 11 місяців тому +3

      @@gameofender4463 agree

    • @williamvanderscheer4327
      @williamvanderscheer4327 11 місяців тому +16

      ​@@gameofender4463 Eh, they always rate low when someone fucks up a race win in spectacular fashion, which George did. I wonder what they rated Leclerc in france last year... Either way its a statement, Russel fucked up big time, the kind of fuck up that makes you think.

    • @jameshogg601
      @jameshogg601 11 місяців тому +3

      ​@williamvanderscheer4327 both lando and Russell hit the wall on the same point half a second apart.
      Lando was so lucky not to take himself out yet that doesn't effect is score.
      These lot talk some bollocks

    • @TheBest14184
      @TheBest14184 11 місяців тому +17

      @@jameshogg60118 pts vs 0 pts. F1 is a game of fine margins. Lando just kissed it, Russell smashed it. 1 is harsh but it’s not absolutely crazy

  • @crackadax
    @crackadax 11 місяців тому +8

    Lando a 10 when he made effectively 2 spots with a fully upgraded spec car and a friendly tow from Sainz - Piastri a 7 when his qualifying was wrecked due to Stroll, no upgrades on car and made 10 spots?!! 🤔You’re having a freaking laugh Bellingham. Not denying Lando had a great race but surely Piastri had just as good if not better based on above.

  • @martinvanzura9134
    @martinvanzura9134 11 місяців тому +11

    Tommy is smoking some good stuff to come up with these numbers XD

  • @pietervanbreda4360
    @pietervanbreda4360 11 місяців тому +10

    IF Lando gets 10 Oscar also gets 10.

  • @adrianrg75
    @adrianrg75 11 місяців тому +57

    Alonso sustained damage to the suspensions on the second lap. That caused the car to have even less pace than it had this weekend, and also caused the pit lane error (which, btw, a 5 second penalty for that is an absolute joke. Checo had the same penalty after ending Albon's and Tsunoda's races)

    • @cademitchell2042
      @cademitchell2042 11 місяців тому +8

      More like a 5 second penalty was fine for that but Perez should have got more

    • @user-lc5km3td8y
      @user-lc5km3td8y 11 місяців тому +1

      Five seconds is a yoke

    • @batandy23
      @batandy23 11 місяців тому +6

      there was no suspension damage. The aero case fell off. The suspension was fine. It would cause minimal drag and would not cause a front right lock up. F1 cars used to not all even use aero casings. They help they dont alter the car

    • @F1ll1nTh3Blanks
      @F1ll1nTh3Blanks 11 місяців тому +1

      5 second pitstop is fine. It's a matter of safety that you don't cross the line for any reason. If Aston wanted to protest that under the grounds of damage, they should have, if not then that's there problem, not the FIA.

    • @coreyrod
      @coreyrod 11 місяців тому +3

      there was no suspension damage. he was awful no excuses

  • @Zzzlol94
    @Zzzlol94 11 місяців тому +4

    Alonso drove with damage the entire race just around the suspension area on the left front. I'm pretty sure that's the reason he just couldn't turn in the pit lane, so it wasn't entirely his fault.

  • @cy9nvs
    @cy9nvs 11 місяців тому +2

    With Haas, it's always like: "Oh, they're actually in a pretty good position."
    Then you don't pay attention for a couple of minutes, and they're dead last with 4 pit stops.

  • @YoshiplayerX
    @YoshiplayerX 11 місяців тому +14

    Tommy so savage and harsh today, i like it!!

  • @clintonmaher6930
    @clintonmaher6930 11 місяців тому +21

    How the hell can Tom give Piastri 7 and Albon 8... geez

  • @Haru_Fujimiya
    @Haru_Fujimiya 11 місяців тому +7

    Oscar only getting 7, then Gorge getting 1 is ridiculous.
    And Max getting an 8 shows you really forgot qualifying. Max could have easily got into Q3 if he didn't made that mistake himself. Even if the car was not that good on qualifying still they got knocked out by an alphatauri. And Perez also deserves to have even lower rating than that.

  • @PatrickBijvoet
    @PatrickBijvoet 11 місяців тому +8

    I could not agree more with the 9 of ten for Estaban Ocon. What an amazing drive. I felt more for him then George to be honest.

    • @ElMoShApPiNeSs
      @ElMoShApPiNeSs 11 місяців тому

      No one is talking about how that's two years in a row for an Ocon dnf at Singapore. The renault engine is just so trash. Unreliable mess of an engine for a decade.

  • @trautsj
    @trautsj 11 місяців тому +19

    Lawson seems to be the real deal. Just another prime example of F1 not having enough seats for all the TRULY talented drivers trying to make their way into the sport.

    • @bigwoodbury88
      @bigwoodbury88 11 місяців тому +2

      They have enough seats, it’s just money talks and no one wants to drive the crappy cars

    • @BlissifiedHH
      @BlissifiedHH 11 місяців тому +6

      Although true, the hypetrain on him right now is overhyping him, and its going to get too high expectations of him and too much pressure for when he does get into F1

    • @deanchur
      @deanchur 11 місяців тому +1

      @@BlissifiedHH Yep. He's no doubt been impressive with only 3 races but points are now going to be an expectation, and in an Alpha Tauri that's an extremely tall ask.

  • @ericcartman4923
    @ericcartman4923 11 місяців тому +3

    Jesus Christ tommy 7 for Oscar? Trippin

  • @arminmuftic4092
    @arminmuftic4092 11 місяців тому +16

    1/10 for Russell ? Started at the Front Row,was probably the fastest out of them all and almost could get a win and the only mistake was him crashing in the end. 5/10 for Perez? He ruined the race for Tsunoda and Albon AND was struggling to even get to top 10 in the beginning while Verstappen was in the points almost from the start.What is Tommy smoking ?

    • @mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168
      @mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 11 місяців тому +2

      He doomed Mercedes this weekend, you realise that? Russell is one mistake away from losing to Norris, & Mercedes losing to Ferrari

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 11 місяців тому +1

      @@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168
      Not entirely his fault this season. Even you’ve admitted that in the past.

    • @TheyCallMeKent
      @TheyCallMeKent 11 місяців тому +2

      ​@@mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168how did he doom them? He was better them Hamilton by miles in quali, and then made a mistake. Which he btw, probably wouldn't even have done if Lewis wasn't INSIDE his gearbox for no reason. Lewis had no business stressing him out like that after the team said "no fighting"

    • @mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168
      @mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 11 місяців тому +4

      ​​@@TheyCallMeKent he doomed them because now he's lost total 35 pts on his own. Ferrari is only 20ish pts behind, lando 12 behind George. Lewis put that team in 2nd, now it's at risk again

    • @mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168
      @mohammadnashitsiddiqui2168 11 місяців тому

      ​​@@gameofender4463 not all of it, but 35 pts is no joke when Ferrari is that close now. Very odd of George for that 3rd major mistake this year

  • @bruceonlife
    @bruceonlife 11 місяців тому +2

    8 for Gasly who finished P6, but 9 for Ocon who DNF??? Tommy's giving birthday points

  • @maxcygnar5309
    @maxcygnar5309 11 місяців тому +2

    Fernando had a problem with his chassis on the second lap. He managed to drive to the end.

  • @kiekiek
    @kiekiek 11 місяців тому +14

    Clearly Max deserved more than an 8. Yet again a perfect race,after a disaster setup he had on Saturday, and with only ever so slighly more favourable circumstances could have won the race.

  • @andrewcurtis4568
    @andrewcurtis4568 11 місяців тому +11

    I was gonna give Max and 8 but you talked me into a 9.

  • @PLBeeBSM
    @PLBeeBSM 11 місяців тому +1

    Alonso had damage on his car since lap 2, there was a piece of the car that was stuck in the front suspension on the left. That altered the balance of his car which is probably why had a few mistakes and couldn't pass Perez for such a long time. It was a race to forget..

  • @LPNSebi
    @LPNSebi 11 місяців тому +4

    how can tommy give george a 1 and checo a 5

  • @hanstubben
    @hanstubben 11 місяців тому +8

    I would give Max a 9, he was very unlucky with the safety and virtual safety car, but at the end he was on Charles's tail who had started in third.
    Max did 8 of the total 42 overtakes during the race.

  • @pvtshort7779
    @pvtshort7779 11 місяців тому +28

    Am I the only one who sees Lawson's drive as just a good race, a 7/10 not a 10/10?
    He survived this race after an excellent qualifying and I still think he should get the seat over Daniel
    BUT, Alphas Updates seem to have worked pretty well, at least in Singapore. He had a bad start, lost 2 position and would have lost 4 if Perez hadn't crashed Yuki. He rode the Perez DRS train as long as he could and even lost connection to that. He benefitted from every DNF, other than Bottas, and Alonso's bad stop and Perez shunting Albon that's 5 positions for free. And he didn't defend against any Overtakes. I don't know, maybe I'm too harsh.

    • @hideouspatje
      @hideouspatje 11 місяців тому

      All your points are valid.... but considering it's his second and a half weekend in that car it's impressive enough to warrant atleast an 8 maybe 9.....

    • @saiyerugara9038
      @saiyerugara9038 11 місяців тому +1

      @hideouspatje I was thinking 8.5 because I mean, he got their highest finish on short notice pretty much. Yes he did have some luck but tbf, Vettel also had luck with 2 of his 5 wins here so yeah...

    • @soundscape26
      @soundscape26 11 місяців тому +2

      Yes, there's a lot of hype around Lawson. His race was a solid 8, not more.

  • @Drrolfski
    @Drrolfski 11 місяців тому +62

    Max not getting a 9 or 10 for a change is almost shocking

    • @williamvanderscheer4327
      @williamvanderscheer4327 11 місяців тому +16

      Funnily enough they talked him up like it was still a 9 or 10. But I guess result matters, not just driver performance. Ah, guy cant get a 10 every race, think its fair to say there might have been more potential in qualifying, barely missed out on q3 after all.

    • @caijones156
      @caijones156 11 місяців тому +28

      ​@@williamvanderscheer4327it feels like their compansating for the 10/10's. His drive was a 10 in the race. Maybe down to a 9 cause of quali imo

    • @daarom3472
      @daarom3472 11 місяців тому +16

      ​@@caijones156agreed. The RB was the 4th or even 5th best car. He then also got screwed over badly in the race. 9/10 is warranted IMO.

    • @John333Scout
      @John333Scout 11 місяців тому +12

      @@caijones156 A 9/10 in quali is insane given Lawson out qualied him and he didnt make Q3 in the 5th or 4th best car. he should get a 6-7 for quali and a 9 for race so about a 7.5-8 rating is very fair. Bad luck during races always seems to hurt their ratings. Lec only got a 7 when he got screwed in the pits and then was told not to pit at the end for mediums to go on the attack. He only got a 7/10

    • @Drrolfski
      @Drrolfski 11 місяців тому +7

      @@John333Scout Leclerc was out-qualified by his teammate and his defense against the Mercs when it was really needed was nothing special. So it definitely makes sense to give Max a higher rating overall.

  • @vedranb87
    @vedranb87 11 місяців тому +2

    "Finished DNF"!? Are you having a stroke there mate? :D

  • @07Corcaigh
    @07Corcaigh 11 місяців тому +17

    Piastri gained 10 places in a car without upgrades, but yeah a rating of 7 is fine🤔

    • @JohnnyMaverik
      @JohnnyMaverik 11 місяців тому

      How many overtakes did he actually make and who did he actually have to overtake? Also with out upgrades does not mean slow, just means slower than Lando.

  • @einstijn138
    @einstijn138 11 місяців тому +5

    Man, if that VSC came one lap earlier and Max won, I would have absolutely lost it. It would have been the best ever performance.
    Also, if George hadn't crashed at the end, Max most likely would have overtaken Charles. But now they had to slow down in sector 2 of the last lap. Max was only a few tenths behind at the end of sector 1.

    • @argantosnl
      @argantosnl 11 місяців тому +1

      If they didn't make a mistake with the floor height and basicly wasted the FP1&2 Max could have won this race and wouldn't be out Q2.

  • @CMike44
    @CMike44 11 місяців тому +3

    It's obviously a question as to whether the other drivers would've gotten a pit stop gap on Max without the safety car, but it was a great drive from max to almost get P4 despite everything going wrong with the car and 2 bad SCs

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki 11 місяців тому +3

    ALO had aero damage holding him back, 2-3 seems harsh.

  • @baraaamir7891
    @baraaamir7891 11 місяців тому +20

    ALONSO HAD FRONT SUSPENSION DAMAGE !! asgon confirmed damage that increased their drag and slowed them down. Apparently it happened on lap 2 under braking something broke and that's why he was failling behind and couldn't turn the car well.

  • @davidcamel8310
    @davidcamel8310 11 місяців тому +15

    I thought Georges rating was a little too harsh, giving the fact he gave it a go. The Mercedes duo made that race more exciting in my opinion, which gave Sainz and Norris a headache in the latter stages. George, despite his crash had one of his better weekends. Would of rating him a 7, to be fair. If a Championship was to play for, than I would of played it safe and kept the points. It was a gamble that did not pay off. Both your scores were too low IMHO.

  • @Cloxxki
    @Cloxxki 11 місяців тому +5

    There sure was a scenario where Max fought for that win. A later SC, after the leaders had stopped, would have been...tasty. Good luck overtaking Max when everyone smells blood in their DRS trains.

  • @ThaDutchDK1989
    @ThaDutchDK1989 11 місяців тому +2

    Piastri above Verstappen … yeah right . If Liam Lawson didn’t think he was Senna Max would ve been 4th

  • @twomours6198
    @twomours6198 11 місяців тому +5

    I usually agree with these guys’ ratings, but giving George Russell a 1/10 is just ridiculous. Fernando Alonso had an awful, awful weekend. Several rookie-level mistakes dragged him to the back of the grid for a completely underwhelming, zero-points finish. Tom gave Alonso a 3/10, which I don’t disagree with. It was a bad weekend. Russell absolutely gave it his all; he had an incredible qualifying which placed him second on the grid, and up until his crash, had an absolutely fantastic race where he was one of, if not the, quickest driver on the grid. Yet a tiny lapse in concentration gives him a 1/10? Tom’s only reasoning was that Russell was in a car which should have scored points, and he didn’t, and it’s that simple. If that’s the case, why did Alonso, who failed to get points not because of a momentary and incredibly unfortunate lapse in judgement, but because of repeated errors and overall shoddy driving, get triple Russell’s score? Especially considering Alonso is a driver in a car which is on a similar level to the Mercedes this season, and has FAR more experience than Russell. Lance Stroll got a 0/10 for crashing out on a bad qualifying lap. You’re telling me George Russell, a driver who placed incredibly in qualifying and had a world-class drive up until the very last lap, only gets 1 point higher than a driver who didn’t even start the race?

  • @nducation8039
    @nducation8039 11 місяців тому +3

    George Russell was a 10, regardless of the crash. He was ready to risk it for the win. He was the fastest out there.

    • @matthewcamina8508
      @matthewcamina8508 11 місяців тому +1

      He wasn’t the fastest. Race data shows Lewis actually had the quickest race pace.
      He also didn’t risk it, he made a mistake. There’s a huge difference.
      If he’d have gone for a move and lost it, fair play. But the opportunity didn’t present itself/he didn’t create an opportunity.

    • @nducation8039
      @nducation8039 11 місяців тому

      @@matthewcamina8508 He was going wider than Lando, to have a better exit and make a move, but Lando went too wide already.

    • @matthewcamina8508
      @matthewcamina8508 11 місяців тому +1

      @@nducation8039 it’s practically impossible to overtake in that part of the track, so your excuse doesn’t wash.
      Under pressure, he had a lapse in concentration and made a mistake. Nobodies fault but his own.
      He’s making a habit of overdriving and crashing as a result.

  • @gavas231
    @gavas231 11 місяців тому +30

    Tommy is trippin with this ratings

    • @SWatchik
      @SWatchik 11 місяців тому +10

      Russell 1, Perez 5 is a yoke

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 11 місяців тому +15

      @@SWatchikRussell at least deserves a 5/10 he was great until one last moment. Perez was trash from Friday to the chequered flag.

    • @alexandergomez3574
      @alexandergomez3574 11 місяців тому +5

      7 for Oscar is also wild, track evolution in quali was huge, you needed to run a second lap to have a chance at advancing and Stroll took that away from him. And yet, with the slower car than Lando he still managed to gain 10 positions in a hard to overtake course.

    • @LucasSantos-gp9we
      @LucasSantos-gp9we 11 місяців тому +1

      I 100% agree with this comment, those ratings were completely off

  • @drugoviic
    @drugoviic 11 місяців тому +4

    10 for Lando are you joking he got handed a place by fia from Hamilton and got helped by Sainz in the end, he would have finished 4th with his pace

    • @robh9577
      @robh9577 11 місяців тому +1

      He got handed a place Lmaooooo
      Lewis "that chicane means nothing to me" Hamiton blew straight through his like 6th chicane of the last couple years and didnt even try to brake, avoid or file back in line.

    • @robh9577
      @robh9577 11 місяців тому

      @DavidCruz-dv2ot it became commonplace with him and max, when they decided they didnt want to crash. But he pulled it on Alonso at spa and flew up it the air, plus other times. He knows hes going to get penalized, I think having a really fast car before and not worrying about a 5 second penalty had something to do with it.
      Even when Seb lost canada when he cut the chicane, Lewis was all over him on the radio..

  • @juniorngomane7201
    @juniorngomane7201 11 місяців тому +3

    Ocon didnt finish the race and lewis finished on podium, but Ocon gets to be rated higher💀ok lol

  • @jordanhooper1527
    @jordanhooper1527 11 місяців тому +3

    Tommy... 9/10 for ocon, but only 7/10 for Oscar in an old spec car... wat?

  • @gorgorplukkie3140
    @gorgorplukkie3140 11 місяців тому +11

    Sainz was great, but George was stellar too. P2 with the mercedes on saturday, absolutely crushing Lewis (4 tenths). Drove a great race and would have scored a 10 without the crash. He deserves at least a 7 in my opinion. And Max had a good race also but was very unlucky.

    • @epicgamerchannel6230
      @epicgamerchannel6230 11 місяців тому +6

      A 1 is way too low but a 7 is way too high. You can't give a driver a 7 when they DNFd by their own fault, regardless of how good their race would've been otherwise. He should've gotten a 3 - 5.

    • @justinwalpole8956
      @justinwalpole8956 11 місяців тому

      ​@@epicgamerchannel6230he got 0 points in car capable of winning. That's a horrendous result

    • @Lucid34
      @Lucid34 11 місяців тому

      A 7 is insane lol. How many points did he score? Who’s fault was it that he crashed? He was in a car capable of winning so getting a 7 for getting 0 points with that car is insane. A 1 is justified

  • @lukehandscomb3133
    @lukehandscomb3133 11 місяців тому +2

    A 1 and a 4 for George, who was HEROIC in quali, drove a great 62 laps of the race with a valiant (albeit possibly slightly overdriven to the detriment of his tyres) charge on Norris and Sainz, and crashed out on a minor mistake on a tricky track whilst TRYING TO WIN is just... Why the George hate? There's a lot of it around and long has been, and I don't know where it's come from. I don't know why.
    I've never really respected your opinions and I watch these cos you guys are funny not cos I think you're right, but I DO NOT understand the George hate that is seemingly so widespread in the F1 fanbase.

  • @jkae4795
    @jkae4795 11 місяців тому +5

    Albon almost got back into the points in a Williams that was just terrible around singapore, 10/10 in my mind
    Also you litterally said max got everything out of the car and was one the worst strategy, still got p5. If he was any other driver he would have gotten an 11/10. Just because his car is usually the best doesn't mean he deserves a lower grade when it isn't...
    Or do you disagree? Could either of them have done any better?

  • @Mik1604
    @Mik1604 11 місяців тому +4

    Fun facts: Lawson had been the only one to overtake Verstappen this season (unlapping himself), he knocked him out of Q3 and Lawson was the only one who defended against Verstappen, ultimately costing Max P4 by 0,2 sec.

    • @timwattrus7886
      @timwattrus7886 11 місяців тому

      Max was overtaken on the sc restart by a few cars this race

    • @Mik1604
      @Mik1604 11 місяців тому

      @@timwattrus7886 I know, but before Singapore only Lawson had done it. I believe at Zandvoort.

    • @timwattrus7886
      @timwattrus7886 11 місяців тому

      @@Mik1604 i see, that crazy

    • @JohnnyMaverik
      @JohnnyMaverik 11 місяців тому

      The Hero we needed (que angry Max fans).

  • @chocodrizzle7349
    @chocodrizzle7349 11 місяців тому +2

    How did Tommy give Gasly an 8 out of 10 for going from 12th to sixth but Piastri gets and 7 for going from 17th to 7th in his first Singapore GP?

  • @CS-gt3cb
    @CS-gt3cb 11 місяців тому +1

    Tommy’s bias against George hits a new level , out-qualified 7x WDC by 0.5 seconds and drove well for 99% of the race and got punished for the smallest error

  • @val3489
    @val3489 11 місяців тому +11

    What in the world is Tommy's rating of Russell? Russell drove a respectable race, regardless if he could have gotten the win or not.
    At the very least he deserved a 4 or a 5. Such a blatant attempt at being controversial lol.

    • @gameofender4463
      @gameofender4463 11 місяців тому +2

      It’s the unconscious biased contempt people have for George for no reason.

  • @francesco153
    @francesco153 11 місяців тому +13

    7 for kmag is very low, 8 is more correct

  • @fjnemo
    @fjnemo 11 місяців тому +2

    Lawson has been legit for me since he was killing it with Albon in GT3s and should have been champion

  • @Caballo.Bajista
    @Caballo.Bajista 11 місяців тому +1

    Amazing as always, but... There's a picture of Stroll at 7:50 when you were talking about Alonso. Nothing really that important but it felt weird.