I found this video tonight by way of Reddit - beautifully shot, very comprehensive and well organized! Thanks for posting this! Can't wait to see what you show us next!
This video is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks for putting this in "layman" terms and taking the scariness out of reloading. I'm excited to start reloading shell for myself and customizing based on my specific need. Thanks again! Good stuff!
Very welcome, Thank you for chiming in! Let me know if you have any questions, reloading is not a straight path and can be frustrating at time, but with the mindset of a geeky tinkerer, you will have fun!
@@WildBushGrit Appreciate it sir. I just had my son order the same reloader you have as an early Christmas present for me. :) Are there any other necessary items/tools you would recommend? Scales? Etc.. Also, if you were in South Carolina I would have to buy you a beer or two. ;)
Aha! I'll crack one open in your name, Thanks for the beer! Necessary no, but yes a scale is a great tool to have to evaluate the bushings precision, with the shots or powder you are using. Later you might wanna try to trim your shell, to improve crimping. But baby steps, try it as is, and adapt, we all have different experiences, and you'll know what works for you, and things to improve.
@@WildBushGrit Thanks again for the advice and quick response. Watching your other videos. Great content. My wife and I moved to some property within the past year in an effort to become better stewards of our bodies and less dependent on others. Hunting etc. is all new to me and I'm soaking up as much information as I can. I've filled our freezers with venison this season and being able to provide for my family has given me a huge surge in confidence and pride as I venture to care for my family. Thanks again for all the tips and information. Take care friend!
I'm guilty of not doing this enough :) I have some loads I don't remember what I put in them. :( I never do super hot stuff, but I don't remember the purpose of some of them.
I just started reloading and been getting the bits and bobs for a few weeks as non toxic shot is near impossible to find in my area of Florida. And if you can get it, it's about $35 a box! Using 12 gauge 2 3/4 #4 steel, the bushings have to be weighed on a scale as they are calibrated for lead and corresponding powder. Getting the Lyman's manual to find the load needed, found shot needs 1 1/8(use 1 5/8 bushing adds 2 grains over), powder is at largest bushing 189 gives 27.4 grains (needs 28.0). You are allowed 5% differences. I love my lee load all 2 as I can recycle the hulls and gives me something to do in the off season.
@@featherspreaderinc3146 Our borders are open, you can contact your outfitter and see what are their regulations for travellers & covid. You do need to be fully vaccinated to get into the country and starting September, businesses may ask you to provide proof. Strange world we are living in.
Thank you so much! I have been searching for a few days now with no success on an informative video like this one! Thank you for taking the time out and showing all the steps! Great Video!
I already reload .30-30 Win, .45-70 GOVT and .44 Remington Magnum, and I'm now really debating getting into shotgun reloading for 12 gauge. I'm really keen on using Flite Control wads, as they turned my cylinder bore shotgun into a tight patterning gun again. Not to mention I can assemble whatever ammunition I need, and it's a very relaxing hobby, great for rainy days and long winters. I was under the impression that slugs generally used a roll crimp instead of a star crimp, though. Might be worth looking more into. Great video, by the way. Safe shooting!
it is very relaxing and perfect hobby in winter, with a cup of coffee, best sundays! Roll crimp is definitely more common, but star crimp works just fine too. Cheers!
Very well put together video for the Lee Loadall 2! Straight to the point of operation, and you even touched on reloading slugs & Buckshot, which Im interested in casting and reloading for in the New Year. I'm assuming your loading and practicing for upland hunting? If so I'd be very intereted in some advice as to reloading your own bird loads. shot size, powders of choice you find most useful in the field. some really good content on both your pages (youtube and instagram) keep it up!
I reload for grouse, rabbit, and ducks. for grouse and rabbit. #7 or #7 1/2. For ducks, I use #3 when there are chances of geese but usually #4. I also do very mild loads for my son, he is 14, but light as a feather, so I want him to get comfortable and slowly increase his effective range. Slugs and Buckshot, I will usually get close to max, when I want to punish myself :) I'd love to cast my own someday.
@@WildBushGrit so for grouse your basically using a target load shot? How many ounces of shot are you dropping in those rounds? Any powders your fond of for your loads? Unfortunately I don't get the opportunity to target ducks or geese here where I am on public land. Most of that kind of hunting is further south and a majority of that land is private.
@@andrewkorczak70 Hey I would give asking some farmers/private owners a try for geese. You'd be surprised how many farmers would be happy for you to hunt geese.
To quickly check your powder weight, tare a primed hull on your scale, and dump your powder normally into it, using the charge bar. Now your scale will accurately weigh what your shell receives. Consistency counts. You can make a full grain difference or more by simply tapping on the charge bar. I personally never use bushings, preferring to weigh the powder in every shell I make.
I agree, the bushings are not super precise. Hence why I steer clear of near max charges. If I ever get near max, then I'll use the scale for every shell. But for most small games or plinking, bushings so far has been ok. :)
@robert I don’t have a reloaded yet and have been watching videos about the Lee brand. Currently I use a stainless pipe, wood dowel with metal screw in one end. Resize and pop the old primer, insert a 209, add pyrodex, paper wad, shot then fold and crimp the top.
Don't forget to add the over shot card when you are loading the buckshot. You can also put the primer in when you are removing the sizer die. (saves a stroke)
That shell you loaded for your example is very slightly underfilled. This is what causes the concave crimp with the visible hole in the middle. If the hole is smaller than your shot, it may not make a difference, but if you're loading small shot such as #8 or #9 you may find the shot escapes through such a hole. You can adjust the column height by using a different wad, or by adding a small thickness of nitro card in the shot cup before dropping the shot. In your case, a 0.125" thick nitro card (sold as an over-powder wad) should be just right and give a tight crimp instead of the slightly concave you have. Another alternative is an over-shot wad (I just bought a bag of 3/4" diameter bingo chips for this). One or two of these on top of the shot will fill out the column height and, because they're thinner than nitro card, can make smaller adjustments.
Yes it is a bit. I do have a follow up video which exclusively focus on crimping. But you raised a good point. I will usually try hard to keep the column at the perfect height. Change the wad or adding cork or nitro below the wads, and I use Tyvek or overshot card on top of shots when I use buffer like my turkey load with buffer. But I reload mostly for Geese, BB & T.
Fantastic video. Mine just arrived from cabelas and starting to set up for reloading. I’m eventually going to cast some swarov paradox slugs, but for now I’m using DGS and 1 oz thug slugs like in your video.
@@WildBushGrit it’s so easy to use as well. Right now I’m using blue dot with the DGS slugs. Went through and shot 60 shells yesterday from slug to buck and birdshot as they were a decade old. Only had one shell that the powder didn’t ignite properly and the wad fell out of the bore. Now I have 59 hulls to reload with DGS and thug slugs 😊
Oh, and by the way, if a friend says he reloads, and takes you out clay pigeon shooting, and then hands you a shot shell that’s marked with three X’s, and tells you “this is my super-magnum - I’ve given it a little extra powder,” please don’t put that in your gun and fire it. A “former” friend of mine in high school did that to me. Like an idiot, I trusted him and his reloading skills, so I shot that shell at a launched clay pigeon. Well, when I came to, I was laying on the ground, my head was spinning, my right shoulder hurt like hell, and my Remington Wingmaster 12 gauge lay about 10 feet behind me. When I’d finally collected myself a few minutes later, though dizzy, I stumbled over to my gun, picked it up, and the trigger group nearly fell out of the bottom of the receiver. The receiver had been expanded 1/8 inch on both sides of the trigger. I was lucky I wasn’t killed. I forced that so-called friend to replace my gun, which he did. He felt bad, but I’d received injuries that took away some of my hearing, and gave me a flinch whenever I shot a shotgun from that point on. It took me years to get rid of that flinch.
OMG...This is very very bad, It's already terrible as it was, but the outcome could have been way worse. I hope your story help others being extra careful, and PS: I don't shoot my friend's handloads... :) Even at the range, I will usually sit two tables further away, If I know someone is shooting his.
I kinda want to get into reloading my shells and cartridges. I am from the U.S so of course we own a lot of guns and shoot a lot. For good or bad it is what it is.
for the powder is fine but for the shots the volume cover by the steel will be the same you won't have any space left to add any shots to make up for the weight.
I replaced the screws with wing screws. I also marked which starter crimp is which and how to position it for a cleaner crimp. Like if you're starting on a valley or a peak.
Additional info here! Having Problem with your Crimps? Check this video here! : ua-cam.com/video/q4sxjr12lbs/v-deo.html How to recognize overpressure and avoid catastrophic failures : ua-cam.com/users/shortsGGuFgwKR1uU?feature=share Finding proper wads substitution is frustrating check this video to know what to look for : ua-cam.com/video/LxFkS5tUnQc/v-deo.html
Hey I see you are from canada I’m looking at getting a lee load all for loading steel shot and I’m just wondering where you get all your shot and stuff from
I order my stuff online, prophet river, x-reload, tesro, select shooting supplies & range view sports, are probably my main go to store. :) I live in Qc.
209 primers and 2 3/4 wads, but your best bet is to get a reloading manual for 12g. There are various types of wads and overshot cards, which will depend on the powder and shot weights.
1 problem here. You should push she’ll out of resizer and primer in at the same time. 1 quicker by saving one step. 2 if you get that 1 in a million primer that goes off when seating the ring will force the blast up instead of it coming out toward your face and chest.
The reason for that is to feel the primer going in, the resizer can hold the shell pretty hard, and when you apply pressure it can come off suddenly, and the shell hitting the primer. Not good. I had primer going off, (not with the lee load-all) a steady low pressure will not set them off. If a primer goes off the sizer will not redirect the blast up, there is a slit going away from you,(back of the lee) that's mainly where most of the blast will go. As you are applying pressure, the shell and the primer are already enclosed in the plastic receptacle, the sizer merely sitting on the top. Either way wearing appropriate protective gear when seating primers, is the only true advice here :) Thanks for chiming in!
How's the return on investment, i know that right now the prices of reloading supply is crazy ... if you can find some. I got into clay shooting lately and was wandering if i could save some money for reloading target load 7.5 or 8 .
It really depends on your shooting habits, and the deals you find, shotgun ammo is not as expensive as some rifle cartridges like 45-70 for example. But buying powders, and shells in bulk, re-using your shells, or even pick up other shooters' spent shells. You can cut prices by a good 30-40%, now if you only shoot 30 shots a year, it is not worth it. But if you shoot 200-300 shots a year, then it starts to make sense. The biggest factor here is re-using shells.
I have lead birdshot delivered to my door for $2.25 per lb. I cast it into slugs, ball ammo and buckshot and sell it for $7 - 10 per pound. How's that for ROI? If I shot only birdshot, I would probably just buy my ammo.
This video is perfect. The only question I have is what type of primer did you put in the used shell? Are their certain primers you should use for steel, lead or buckshot or does that not matter its just the powder that matters and shot size?
This is an excellent question! Recipes will call for specific primers. But there are no categories, steel, slug... Primers have a big influence on total pressure. So when substituing, make sure to start a low powder charge and work your way up. Never substitute primer and use max charge. As for the ones I used, I don't remember but probably fed209. :) thank you for watching!
When you did the crimp after the precrimp ? That crimp was perfect. When you put it in the other station and crimped it a few times it cam out horrible and caved in .i saw a little hole that the shot csn come out? Unless you use a overshot card
The reason i wouldn't call the 1st one perfect is the because of the shape of lips, its not deep and crisp enough, and I had loads of shells like this coming undone. I agree with you for the cave-in section, it is, how bad will depend on the size of the shots and if you are using an overshot cards or not. I wasn't in this case. So clearly not my best example. I came a long way in reloading shotshell, and I have made another video exclusively on crimping, which address most of the issues I had while reloading.
Audran, Question: After you’ve “resized” the brass base, and the resizing bushing is still on the shell, couldn’t you simply install a new primer in the primer bushing and install the primer while removing the resizing ring all at the same time? Seems to me the Lee Loader is designed to do those two functions all in one handle pull. It would certainly reduce the number of handle pulls, right?
I guess it should work, the reason I like to make this in two-step, is I like to feel the pressure of the primer going in, and not wonder if the case is aligned or not. The resizing die doesn't sit in that depression, so it's a bit of a hassle to release and prime at the same time.
@@WildBushGrit In my experience having the bushing in place helps line up the shell better during the priming stage. By the time the casing meets the primer, the sizing die is generally loose, so the feel should be the same at the end of the stroke. Looks like it was a little unstable the way you did it in 2 steps. The Lee Load-All instructions show Stage 2 as one step.
I was wanting to see how to make dragons breath and flash bang shells have you thought about that kind of loading? But I also want to load 12 gauge too..
Oh Dragon breath for Shoot and cook video, that must be fun :) My guess is magnesium would be in the mix, but outside Call of Duty, I don't have experience with DB :)😂
Hey could anyone point me in the right direction for load data for the federal speed shok hulls shooting 1 1/4 oz steel bb i cant find anything and federal pdf is just lead
@@WildBushGrit awesome I think I found the alliant load data but looks like I jumped into the shot reloading late .... I cant find any materials its all sold out
@@WildBushGrit funny you should say that I sent out 15 calls across country to order and one called back lol I was able to get steel allient steel powder steal BBs wads snd primered hulls so patience is definitely key
I cannot say, if one is tighter and raise pressure or not. But the only general rule I know, is you don't want to change the crimp style while reloading. If your used shell had 6 , then you stick with 6. I often see targets load and small birdshot in 8. While bbb to #4 are 6.
This is the chart provided by Lee, This is only a few selected powders. You will be better making your own measurement for your own safety. You will need to measure your loads as you reload, me providing you this data will not help you. Trust me :) leeprecision.com/files/instruct/LA1071.pdf
@@hak5323 Ignore Page 1, those are recipes NOT intended for 12 gauge. Get a shotgun reloading manual with recipe for 12 gauge, it will also tell you which wad & shell to use for any given recipe. The chart on page 2 just gives you an idea of weight of powder per bushing. Now that I understand your first question, you are not looking for chart, you are looking for recipe, and I will not provide those, for safety and legal reason. My advice, get a manual for 12 gauge loads. Find the recipe you want, lead or steel, powder, wad and shell. Then you can start reloading.
Hey there, quick question I'm hoping you could help me out with. I recently got a flat of sterling competition tornado slugs, and they seem to have a mind of their own and fly in anywhich direction after 25 yards. When you inspect the unfired shell the slug either seems to be not seated straight into the shell, or that the actual slugs rifling are not uniform around the slug(to the point that some of the shells seem ovalized). It changes from shell to shell within the same 10round box. Some perfectly fine, some all wonky. Is it actually possible to seat the slugs in crooked in the shell? Or would that be a manufacturer error with the wadding/slug?
Oh... that and old video, and all my files are archived on an offline drive. I don't remember. All my music, for the early days of my channel, came from the UA-cam Audio Library available to Content Creator.
For that price it is just fine. You can also add washer on top sheell at last station, it will crimp it little bit better. I'm doing Black Powder shells on lee for CAS. All the best in 2022! ps: there is some upgrades for that station, just check this vid: ua-cam.com/video/K0BtcTBielY/v-deo.html (I got it from Roman, but no time to set it ...)
I'm always late to the game , just got a shotgun but NO Ammo to be found!!! so I figured I would try making my own and NO Supplies!! I did order the Lee Loader just to get it before it sold out and will try and collect components as the become available UGH! 😫
@@Droodog127 Thanks! Hang on and keep looking, you might be able to purchase some stuff online, are you in the US or CA? I think the flow of supplies is constant but doesn't last on the shelves because of ppl are still in buying panic mode. it sucks, I feel you :) it will pass, soon hopefully.
@@WildBushGrit in the US , just finished my Canadian project build (for the most part missing a component) and I went retro and got me a Winchester 1897 but everything is sold out for ammo :( Here is my Canadian premier build imgur.com/a/qeJpiTL just need the slot end plate to complete it
What if just cut open the factory load 12 gauge shell and replace the lead pellets with steel (00 buckshot), do you think it will perform well and safe or the powder also need to be changed?? Thank you!
I will not advise modifying a live round, but if you are to do it anyway, I would match the same weight in steel as in lead and test it before hunting. Be careful :) Cheers!
Problems could range from being underpowered, inaccurate or getting a slug stuck into your barrel to a load being too hot and cause damage to your shotgun or serious injuries to yourself.
came across this video right now, perfect sir!!!!
GREAT CONTENT
Thank you!
I found this video tonight by way of Reddit - beautifully shot, very comprehensive and well organized! Thanks for posting this! Can't wait to see what you show us next!
Thank you very much, Garrett. Do not hesitate to poke me if you have any questions. I'll be super glad to help.
great calming video.. sound was spot on and professional!
This video is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks for putting this in "layman" terms and taking the scariness out of reloading. I'm excited to start reloading shell for myself and customizing based on my specific need. Thanks again! Good stuff!
Very welcome, Thank you for chiming in! Let me know if you have any questions, reloading is not a straight path and can be frustrating at time, but with the mindset of a geeky tinkerer, you will have fun!
@@WildBushGrit Appreciate it sir. I just had my son order the same reloader you have as an early Christmas present for me. :) Are there any other necessary items/tools you would recommend? Scales? Etc..
Also, if you were in South Carolina I would have to buy you a beer or two. ;)
Aha! I'll crack one open in your name, Thanks for the beer! Necessary no, but yes a scale is a great tool to have to evaluate the bushings precision, with the shots or powder you are using. Later you might wanna try to trim your shell, to improve crimping. But baby steps, try it as is, and adapt, we all have different experiences, and you'll know what works for you, and things to improve.
@@WildBushGrit Thanks again for the advice and quick response. Watching your other videos. Great content. My wife and I moved to some property within the past year in an effort to become better stewards of our bodies and less dependent on others. Hunting etc. is all new to me and I'm soaking up as much information as I can. I've filled our freezers with venison this season and being able to provide for my family has given me a huge surge in confidence and pride as I venture to care for my family. Thanks again for all the tips and information. Take care friend!
@@davidjett Very admirable goal! To a meaningful life, with intent and purpose! Kudos to you and your wife!
Great video, man. This has restoked my interest in reloading shotgun ammo. Now I just have to remember where I put all my bags of spent hulls.
Thanks Benjamin! Find those hulls, they need you! :)
Make sure to always take notes . write everything down so you can always go back and see what you did
I'm guilty of not doing this enough :) I have some loads I don't remember what I put in them. :( I never do super hot stuff, but I don't remember the purpose of some of them.
Very thorough and explanatory. Thank you!
I just started reloading and been getting the bits and bobs for a few weeks as non toxic shot is near impossible to find in my area of Florida. And if you can get it, it's about $35 a box! Using 12 gauge 2 3/4 #4 steel, the bushings have to be weighed on a scale as they are calibrated for lead and corresponding powder. Getting the Lyman's manual to find the load needed, found shot needs 1 1/8(use 1 5/8 bushing adds 2 grains over), powder is at largest bushing 189 gives 27.4 grains (needs 28.0). You are allowed 5% differences. I love my lee load all 2 as I can recycle the hulls and gives me something to do in the off season.
Excellent presentation, Thankyou very much
thank you. Very well done in helping me consider reloading.
You're very welcome! Don't hesitate if you have any questions! :)
@@WildBushGrit i hope Canada opens back up. I had a hunt planned for northern Saskatchewan planned...
@@featherspreaderinc3146 Our borders are open, you can contact your outfitter and see what are their regulations for travellers & covid. You do need to be fully vaccinated to get into the country and starting September, businesses may ask you to provide proof. Strange world we are living in.
Thank you so much! I have been searching for a few days now with no success on an informative video like this one! Thank you for taking the time out and showing all the steps! Great Video!
Great demonstration. Thanks
Keep it up! I know your channel is going to blow up soon
Thanks Jay! Fingers crossed! :) But I'm already having a blast! :)
Great video man! Very detailed! I will be referring to this video a lot once I get into shotgun reloading myself!
I already reload .30-30 Win, .45-70 GOVT and .44 Remington Magnum, and I'm now really debating getting into shotgun reloading for 12 gauge. I'm really keen on using Flite Control wads, as they turned my cylinder bore shotgun into a tight patterning gun again. Not to mention I can assemble whatever ammunition I need, and it's a very relaxing hobby, great for rainy days and long winters. I was under the impression that slugs generally used a roll crimp instead of a star crimp, though. Might be worth looking more into.
Great video, by the way. Safe shooting!
it is very relaxing and perfect hobby in winter, with a cup of coffee, best sundays! Roll crimp is definitely more common, but star crimp works just fine too. Cheers!
Amazing. Gonna be starting to reload shells soon and wasn’t sure if this unit would work for what I want etc. thank you
Very well put together video for the Lee Loadall 2! Straight to the point of operation, and you even touched on reloading slugs & Buckshot, which Im interested in casting and reloading for in the New Year.
I'm assuming your loading and practicing for upland hunting? If so I'd be very intereted in some advice as to reloading your own bird loads. shot size, powders of choice you find most useful in the field.
some really good content on both your pages (youtube and instagram) keep it up!
I reload for grouse, rabbit, and ducks. for grouse and rabbit. #7 or #7 1/2. For ducks, I use #3 when there are chances of geese but usually #4. I also do very mild loads for my son, he is 14, but light as a feather, so I want him to get comfortable and slowly increase his effective range. Slugs and Buckshot, I will usually get close to max, when I want to punish myself :) I'd love to cast my own someday.
@@WildBushGrit so for grouse your basically using a target load shot? How many ounces of shot are you dropping in those rounds? Any powders your fond of for your loads?
Unfortunately I don't get the opportunity to target ducks or geese here where I am on public land. Most of that kind of hunting is further south and a majority of that land is private.
@@andrewkorczak70 Hey I would give asking some farmers/private owners a try for geese. You'd be surprised how many farmers would be happy for you to hunt geese.
To quickly check your powder weight, tare a primed hull on your scale, and dump your powder normally into it, using the charge bar. Now your scale will accurately weigh what your shell receives. Consistency counts. You can make a full grain difference or more by simply tapping on the charge bar. I personally never use bushings, preferring to weigh the powder in every shell I make.
I agree, the bushings are not super precise. Hence why I steer clear of near max charges. If I ever get near max, then I'll use the scale for every shell. But for most small games or plinking, bushings so far has been ok. :)
@robert I don’t have a reloaded yet and have been watching videos about the Lee brand.
Currently I use a stainless pipe, wood dowel with metal screw in one end. Resize and pop the old primer, insert a 209, add pyrodex, paper wad, shot then fold and crimp the top.
Thank you for taking your time to educate other. You're a good man.
Thanks James, I'm really enjoying it :)Thank you.
Thank you for the video, very helpful and answered some important questions I hadn't seen in other videos.
Keep up the great work.
Glad it was helpful! Let me know if you have questions!
Thanks! Just what I needed. 👍
You're welcome! Let me know if you have any questions.
Thank you for this video.
You are very welcome! Let me know if I can help you in any way!
Don't forget to add the over shot card when you are loading the buckshot. You can also put the primer in when you are removing the sizer die. (saves a stroke)
Very true, I've seen some factory load that didn't have the overshot card, are they really necessary? or just makes things tidier
@@WildBushGrit Looks better, keeps small shot from coming out the little hole in the center of the crimp.
@@williamcastleberry7338 Yeah that make sense! Thanks for chiming in!
That shell you loaded for your example is very slightly underfilled. This is what causes the concave crimp with the visible hole in the middle. If the hole is smaller than your shot, it may not make a difference, but if you're loading small shot such as #8 or #9 you may find the shot escapes through such a hole. You can adjust the column height by using a different wad, or by adding a small thickness of nitro card in the shot cup before dropping the shot. In your case, a 0.125" thick nitro card (sold as an over-powder wad) should be just right and give a tight crimp instead of the slightly concave you have. Another alternative is an over-shot wad (I just bought a bag of 3/4" diameter bingo chips for this). One or two of these on top of the shot will fill out the column height and, because they're thinner than nitro card, can make smaller adjustments.
Yes it is a bit. I do have a follow up video which exclusively focus on crimping. But you raised a good point. I will usually try hard to keep the column at the perfect height. Change the wad or adding cork or nitro below the wads, and I use Tyvek or overshot card on top of shots when I use buffer like my turkey load with buffer. But I reload mostly for Geese, BB & T.
You explained that well thank you!
Fantastic video. Mine just arrived from cabelas and starting to set up for reloading. I’m eventually going to cast some swarov paradox slugs, but for now I’m using DGS and 1 oz thug slugs like in your video.
These slugs are badasses, needed to rest my shoulder for a week after shooting a dozen :)
@@WildBushGrit it’s so easy to use as well. Right now I’m using blue dot with the DGS slugs. Went through and shot 60 shells yesterday from slug to buck and birdshot as they were a decade old. Only had one shell that the powder didn’t ignite properly and the wad fell out of the bore. Now I have 59 hulls to reload with DGS and thug slugs 😊
Thanks, that was very informative & helpful!
Oh, and by the way, if a friend says he reloads, and takes you out clay pigeon shooting, and then hands you a shot shell that’s marked with three X’s, and tells you “this is my super-magnum - I’ve given it a little extra powder,” please don’t put that in your gun and fire it. A “former” friend of mine in high school did that to me. Like an idiot, I trusted him and his reloading skills, so I shot that shell at a launched clay pigeon. Well, when I came to, I was laying on the ground, my head was spinning, my right shoulder hurt like hell, and my Remington Wingmaster 12 gauge lay about 10 feet behind me. When I’d finally collected myself a few minutes later, though dizzy, I stumbled over to my gun, picked it up, and the trigger group nearly fell out of the bottom of the receiver. The receiver had been expanded 1/8 inch on both sides of the trigger. I was lucky I wasn’t killed. I forced that so-called friend to replace my gun, which he did. He felt bad, but I’d received injuries that took away some of my hearing, and gave me a flinch whenever I shot a shotgun from that point on. It took me years to get rid of that flinch.
OMG...This is very very bad, It's already terrible as it was, but the outcome could have been way worse. I hope your story help others being extra careful, and PS: I don't shoot my friend's handloads... :) Even at the range, I will usually sit two tables further away, If I know someone is shooting his.
I kinda want to get into reloading my shells and cartridges. I am from the U.S so of course we own a lot of guns and shoot a lot. For good or bad it is what it is.
It's a very fun hobby, to shoot and reload. Starting It doesn't need to be expensive either. Good luck! Lemme know if I can help you.
Appreciate the details, thanks again.
Excellent Video !!
Great vid! Thanks
Very awesome video in every way possible! Thank you so much for posting brother.
My pleasure! Don't hesitate if you have any questions! Thanks! :)
for the powder is fine but for the shots the volume cover by the steel will be the same you won't have any space left to add any shots to make up for the weight.
You mean between lead and steel?
Great video ive saved hundreds of hulls getting one this weekend hopefully it gets me some snows
Good luck! I'm going this Saturday, 2nd time this year. The 1st time got me only 2 geese.
@@WildBushGrit I've gone once, saw nothing, hoped they be up by calgary by now but 🤷♂️
@@fjt4700 Snows are particulars, much harder than canadian geese, and ducks. I have a film about it. Just can get the time to edit and finish it.
@@WildBushGrit definitely look forward to it
I replaced the screws with wing screws. I also marked which starter crimp is which and how to position it for a cleaner crimp. Like if you're starting on a valley or a peak.
Good tips, thx, I might do just that! and yeah I keep forgetting which one is which!
Great work!
Additional info here!
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Really informative video
@@mrguiltyfool Thank you very much Mr. Fool! (...and remember Gandalf wanted you to run)
Can you make a two slug shell for a 20 gauge
If you can find the recipe in a reputable reloading book, I guess yes, But I've never tried it. 😇
excellent instructional video. well done! Peace!
Perfect thanks man
YW, Don't hesitate if you any questions :) Cheers!
Hey I see you are from canada I’m looking at getting a lee load all for loading steel shot and I’m just wondering where you get all your shot and stuff from
I order my stuff online, prophet river, x-reload, tesro, select shooting supplies & range view sports, are probably my main go to store. :) I live in Qc.
@@WildBushGrit thanks for your help love the video
@@jaysoutdoors723 You're welcome! I'm happy to help :)
What kind of wad and primer should I use for a Winchester AA shell
209 primers and 2 3/4 wads, but your best bet is to get a reloading manual for 12g. There are various types of wads and overshot cards, which will depend on the powder and shot weights.
@@WildBushGrit I found a manual on alliants page
@@aaronchilders4007 This is perfect!
nicely done!!!
Thank you.
Really good video. Thanks for sharing this.
Thanks John!
thank you
Good info thankyou
Love your video 💯
1 problem here. You should push she’ll out of resizer and primer in at the same time. 1 quicker by saving one step. 2 if you get that 1 in a million primer that goes off when seating the ring will force the blast up instead of it coming out toward your face and chest.
The reason for that is to feel the primer going in, the resizer can hold the shell pretty hard, and when you apply pressure it can come off suddenly, and the shell hitting the primer. Not good. I had primer going off, (not with the lee load-all) a steady low pressure will not set them off. If a primer goes off the sizer will not redirect the blast up, there is a slit going away from you,(back of the lee) that's mainly where most of the blast will go. As you are applying pressure, the shell and the primer are already enclosed in the plastic receptacle, the sizer merely sitting on the top. Either way wearing appropriate protective gear when seating primers, is the only true advice here :) Thanks for chiming in!
Nice video!
How's the return on investment, i know that right now the prices of reloading supply is crazy ... if you can find some. I got into clay shooting lately and was wandering if i could save some money for reloading target load 7.5 or 8 .
It really depends on your shooting habits, and the deals you find, shotgun ammo is not as expensive as some rifle cartridges like 45-70 for example. But buying powders, and shells in bulk, re-using your shells, or even pick up other shooters' spent shells. You can cut prices by a good 30-40%, now if you only shoot 30 shots a year, it is not worth it. But if you shoot 200-300 shots a year, then it starts to make sense. The biggest factor here is re-using shells.
I have lead birdshot delivered to my door for $2.25 per lb. I cast it into slugs, ball ammo and buckshot and sell it for $7 - 10 per pound. How's that for ROI? If I shot only birdshot, I would probably just buy my ammo.
Great tutorial. XD
Now, how to make ward and cast brass casings?
Thanks! Lol, wad should be easy... brass casing would be another story :)
This video is perfect. The only question I have is what type of primer did you put in the used shell? Are their certain primers you should use for steel, lead or buckshot or does that not matter its just the powder that matters and shot size?
This is an excellent question! Recipes will call for specific primers. But there are no categories, steel, slug... Primers have a big influence on total pressure. So when substituing, make sure to start a low powder charge and work your way up. Never substitute primer and use max charge. As for the ones I used, I don't remember but probably fed209. :) thank you for watching!
When you did the crimp after the precrimp ? That crimp was perfect. When you put it in the other station and crimped it a few times it cam out horrible and caved in .i saw a little hole that the shot csn come out? Unless you use a overshot card
The reason i wouldn't call the 1st one perfect is the because of the shape of lips, its not deep and crisp enough, and I had loads of shells like this coming undone. I agree with you for the cave-in section, it is, how bad will depend on the size of the shots and if you are using an overshot cards or not. I wasn't in this case. So clearly not my best example. I came a long way in reloading shotshell, and I have made another video exclusively on crimping, which address most of the issues I had while reloading.
Very useful thanks :)
Audran, Question: After you’ve “resized” the brass base, and the resizing bushing is still on the shell, couldn’t you simply install a new primer in the primer bushing and install the primer while removing the resizing ring all at the same time? Seems to me the Lee Loader is designed to do those two functions all in one handle pull. It would certainly reduce the number of handle pulls, right?
I guess it should work, the reason I like to make this in two-step, is I like to feel the pressure of the primer going in, and not wonder if the case is aligned or not. The resizing die doesn't sit in that depression, so it's a bit of a hassle to release and prime at the same time.
@@WildBushGrit In my experience having the bushing in place helps line up the shell better during the priming stage. By the time the casing meets the primer, the sizing die is generally loose, so the feel should be the same at the end of the stroke. Looks like it was a little unstable the way you did it in 2 steps. The Lee Load-All instructions show Stage 2 as one step.
I was wanting to see how to make dragons breath and flash bang shells have you thought about that kind of loading? But I also want to load 12 gauge too..
Oh Dragon breath for Shoot and cook video, that must be fun :) My guess is magnesium would be in the mix, but outside Call of Duty, I don't have experience with DB :)😂
@@WildBushGrit It might work w/ duck or small game bird... It would def be de feathered...LOL
Hey could anyone point me in the right direction for load data for the federal speed shok hulls shooting 1 1/4 oz steel bb i cant find anything and federal pdf is just lead
Look at load data from powder manufacturer, you'll want a recipe for 3" - 1 1/4oz steel at around 1450fps - Alliant Steel calls for 36gn for 1430fps
@@WildBushGrit awesome I think I found the alliant load data but looks like I jumped into the shot reloading late .... I cant find any materials its all sold out
@@fjt4700 Welcome to 2022 :) Patience & Persistence will get you what you need. I browse all my reloading shops everyday... Everyday! :)
@@WildBushGrit funny you should say that I sent out 15 calls across country to order and one called back lol I was able to get steel allient steel powder steal BBs wads snd primered hulls so patience is definitely key
@@fjt4700 Wow, mind sharing where you found primed hulls please?
What’s the difference between a 6 star crimp or 8 star crimp?
I cannot say, if one is tighter and raise pressure or not. But the only general rule I know, is you don't want to change the crimp style while reloading. If your used shell had 6 , then you stick with 6. I often see targets load and small birdshot in 8. While bbb to #4 are 6.
@@WildBushGrit ok thanks for the reply 👍
Help me understand if you could please show us on the chart the Powder Load and the Shot load with lead and one with steel. Thanks
This is the chart provided by Lee, This is only a few selected powders. You will be better making your own measurement for your own safety.
You will need to measure your loads as you reload, me providing you this data will not help you. Trust me :)
leeprecision.com/files/instruct/LA1071.pdf
@@WildBushGrit Hi, the charts are for 16 and 20 gauge I have a 12 gauge the chart would make a good starting point?
@@hak5323 Ignore Page 1, those are recipes NOT intended for 12 gauge. Get a shotgun reloading manual with recipe for 12 gauge, it will also tell you which wad & shell to use for any given recipe. The chart on page 2 just gives you an idea of weight of powder per bushing. Now that I understand your first question, you are not looking for chart, you are looking for recipe, and I will not provide those, for safety and legal reason. My advice, get a manual for 12 gauge loads. Find the recipe you want, lead or steel, powder, wad and shell. Then you can start reloading.
@@WildBushGrit Thanks I appreciate your advice I will get a manual for 12-gauge loads. Thanks again
@@hak5323 You are welcome! Be accurate, concentrated and stay safe :) Cheers!
Hey there, quick question I'm hoping you could help me out with. I recently got a flat of sterling competition tornado slugs, and they seem to have a mind of their own and fly in anywhich direction after 25 yards. When you inspect the unfired shell the slug either seems to be not seated straight into the shell, or that the actual slugs rifling are not uniform around the slug(to the point that some of the shells seem ovalized). It changes from shell to shell within the same 10round box. Some perfectly fine, some all wonky. Is it actually possible to seat the slugs in crooked in the shell? Or would that be a manufacturer error with the wadding/slug?
I'm not familiar with sterling, but a crooked slug in the shell is unlikely, because the fit is normally snug tight. any wads at the base of the slug?
Hi man, what's the name of the chill banjo song at 0.55 sec? Thanks.
Oh... that and old video, and all my files are archived on an offline drive. I don't remember. All my music, for the early days of my channel, came from the UA-cam Audio Library available to Content Creator.
Thanks for replying, no worries. Best wishes.@@WildBushGrit
Does the machine work for all gauges
There are conversion kit available, i don't remember which one exactly, (20g for sure) but I know the 410 is NOT on the list.
Would show how to resize one
Nice video. Thank you for this content. Good luck with your channel. You got me as a sub. Peace.
Thank you for the vote of confidence! Much appreciated! Cheers!
For that price it is just fine.
You can also add washer on top sheell at last station, it will crimp it little bit better.
I'm doing Black Powder shells on lee for CAS.
All the best in 2022!
ps: there is some upgrades for that station, just check this vid: ua-cam.com/video/K0BtcTBielY/v-deo.html (I got it from Roman, but no time to set it ...)
I can't find those overshot cards nearby, I'm thinking of building a punch, and making my own ☺️. Thanks for the link gotta check it out. HNY to you!
@@WildBushGrit just use 19mm puncher or 18.5mm if you cant find it. 18mm is also fine for owershot card.
@@WildBushGrit 1mm card or 2mm card board from anything you can find and 19 or 18mm puncher.
I'm always late to the game , just got a shotgun but NO Ammo to be found!!! so I figured I would try making my own and NO Supplies!! I did order the Lee Loader just to get it before it sold out and will try and collect components as the become available UGH! 😫
BTW Great Video!
@@Droodog127 Thanks! Hang on and keep looking, you might be able to purchase some stuff online, are you in the US or CA? I think the flow of supplies is constant but doesn't last on the shelves because of ppl are still in buying panic mode. it sucks, I feel you :) it will pass, soon hopefully.
@@WildBushGrit in the US , just finished my Canadian project build (for the most part missing a component) and I went retro and got me a Winchester 1897 but everything is sold out for ammo :( Here is my Canadian premier build imgur.com/a/qeJpiTL just need the slot end plate to complete it
my new old shotgun imgur.com/a/fo8SlXt
@@Droodog127 The trench gun! such a classic! Very nice purchase :)
Will this do slugs?
you can, but you have to load them manually, as the shots dispenser is for shots only and the crimp won't be optimum.
Interesting video. Are you Brazilian?
Thanks, no, I'm Canadian.
What if just cut open the factory load 12 gauge shell and replace the lead pellets with steel (00 buckshot), do you think it will perform well and safe or the powder also need to be changed??
Thank you!
I will not advise modifying a live round, but if you are to do it anyway, I would match the same weight in steel as in lead and test it before hunting. Be careful :) Cheers!
Cutting open a loaded shell would ruin it...
What can happen if it's a wrong recipe?
Problems could range from being underpowered, inaccurate or getting a slug stuck into your barrel to a load being too hot and cause damage to your shotgun or serious injuries to yourself.
My bad
No worries :)
Thanks man
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