Fam in early 2000s hella niggas was scared to diss Eminem not physically but lyrically he was hot venom back then it was creative disses with word play and funny at the same
Honestly Joe scared, if he clames to be a better MC then why not respond with bars instead of pillow talking on a podcast. The whole”I’m retired” remark is a cop out he knows Em can end careers and he don’t wanna risk it.
The beginning is slaughterhouse mocking canibus. They all antagonized canibus in o get multiple rap disses. When Royce says “kick the shit I wrote you” in an interview royce said canibus tried to get him to write all the verses on A song for him
I like Joe, even in spite of what happened today with firing rory and mal, but Em's pretty well eviscerated him with some of his punchlines in Bang, Lock It Up, etc. If he's been better than Em the whole decade he would have written a response and not pop off on his podcast.
I love how these artists be like Em not worth the trouble of dissin AFTER they GET bodied or they DONT get the reaction they wanted to their diss track.
@@MicRockwell187 if u think he is a dope mc than your hip hop taste is all fucked up, his bars are mediocre his word play is wack asf and his tone sound like he smokes to many cigarettes 😂 I’m a music enthusiast and a die hard hip hop fan don’t come at me for not having my ears attacked by this trash I have heard him rap and spit written freestyles but that’s how bad it is I can’t name them 1/10 stars
@@diontetowles5593 I said what I said. I've actually listen to both Catalogs this whole time Ems best album this decade (Kamikazi) isn't better than Loose Quarter, Rage against the machine or the Slauterhouse mixtape stuff.
Joe's like that guy in the club who bets on his friends holding him back when going into a fight, "oh if I wasn't retired.." "it's a shame that I'm retired", ah shut up
Joe was off a few tracks because his E1 deal was restricting him from being on certain songs that Em was on.. but aside from that Em put Joe on every fucking album since haha slaughterhouse album, Shady XV album Joe was on 3 tracks , Southpaw movie with Jake Eminem produced the sound track. Em put slaughterhouse on that soundtrack and put out videos for it, Fast and furious movie. Again Slaughterhouse on that soundtrack you think they get on that soundtrack without Em? Lol Joe Career was dead before the shady deal. Slaughterhouse had a very small relatively fan base... the reason his Pod is popping is becof the shady deal it put his name back in the game. The reason Complex offered him the job is because Of the shady deal. The shady deal gave Joe another life, whether they were super successful or not. Their names were attached to Eminem, Shady and interscope.
Joe saying he better for a decade while putting out rage against the machine lmao got invited to dance twice and backed out Let's not forget he tried the fast style to try to fit in with em if you the better mc why try to fit in
That song was trash, the only thing that could've been worth salvaging was when the beat switched, but it was trash. Joe though, he was out of line. Could've said "It's not for me, or I didn't like it." Then moved on, but he went the extra mile.
@@grimreaper4614 When have we known Joe not to be extra lol... But it's time we stop pampering Em's ego and tell him like it is, he has been below average for a while now.
@@Holason89 Oh no I'm with you there. He's some nice ass bars here and there, but he's not the same Eminem. Joe has always been extra, but considering he's signed to shady, I'm of the opinion that he should've worded it more carefully. That's my opinion for anyone signed to anyone else, or boss and employee in general. Either way, I would loved some back and forth diss tracks.
U shouldve added the Mood Musik 3 DVD video of joe budden saying hed want to battle eminem since he was the goat since its nowhere online and then joe bitched out at his chance to do so.
Facts! All ppl know is pump it up, I personally think that's one of his worst songs. I will advise a lot of ppl to check out mood music 3 an awesome album.
@Prime Daily Quotes to each its own. The production was not great at all compared to other Ems albums. However, there are some songs from Revival that will be classics. Anyways, like I said. To each its own.
@@TrayDTV I don't think people is talking about the meaning, we get the meaning its just that Revival was not a good album and Em is one of my fav rappers.
@@BoboKoyo Eminem didn't argue Revival to be a good or bad album. He's just not happy peeps like Joe refused to be diplomatic during criticism just to get some shot lived attention
Em's music does suck now but I can't say it's the absolute worst. I'd definitely be in favor of wadding up this particular song and screaming"KOBE" as I dispose of it though
Honestly Em and Joe would have been a great duo but regardless of Joe's feelings towards Em Joe is too out of pocket. Joe is a top tier rapper but he his personality gets in the way of business etc. Also that beat Em picked for his song they showed wasn't really it but I'm sure there was a reason for the beat choice
I see the point joe makes, ive seen a decline in eminems albums. He sells cuz of his name but doesn't stay relevant due to music he's always dissin someone or try to get a shock and awe from a celebrity or a celebrities fans or tries to say anything just for shock value. I would like to see them go at it on wax tho. Obviously eminem is bothered by joe and joe comes off as a hater cuz he hasnt dropped a diss track aimed at em.
Someone who speaks sense. Em has been on the decline for years... literally sells because of his name and his prime, but his music is honestly so bad now.
@@unrealtournamenttdot What an insanely dumb comment. You think his name would still carry him 25 years into his career if people didnt actually care for his music? What a ridiculous take
Joe Budden is better then Eminem - Since when? Am sure no one ever heard of him since the beef started. And i'll bet money, ain't nobody buy or even listen to his shit.
@@slump9835 That's truth - in statistic sense, can show you a lot on who better. You can't brag about something, if you know your shit is wack. It's like two business own trying to compete -yea, you can still get better at a skill.
if joe really thought he was better for a decade then he really is delusional. he equate podcasting to releasing music? the music made more money. so how?
@Ash Salvatore!! If sales were relevant Rakim, Nas and Biggy wouldn't be considered one of the best to ever touch the mic. I mean Who gets outsold by Nas?
@@donwolf9490 fell off on the technical side of rap? Because if you say so you're full of shit, otherwise if we're talking bout music he's had a couple good songs these couple albums but he's not doing the best musically.
@@serps2833 exactly, lyrically he's awesome. But Em has sucked for years now. He can't make a solid project and why should we not critique? No solid work even MMLP 2 bombed
@@donwolf9490 MMLP2 was dope. And if record sales dont matter when propping up an artist, the same standard should be applied when discrediting them. Besides, MMLP2s sales were actually quite high considering the era we're in.
@@viceversamusic I never use sales as a point of reference. I really don't have time for that. Black Thought is top tier, yet does not sell more albums than a lot of artists. The numbers thing was mentioned by another person so makes no difference, my whole point is that Em has been consistently weak yet people do not want to admit it
Here's a clip of EM rapping. Here's Joe Budden talking. Here's a clip of EM rapping. Here's Joe Budden talking. ... Tbh, I can't think of a single Joe Budden song title...? 🤔 Does he make music?
Joe had faults too but Em wasn't the angel stans try to portray him either! Joe was angry,they could have talked it out but Em handled it like a bitch for real!
Well it is what it is. I iust think people put way too much drama into this when Joe never actually responded on a track. This is just typical eminem vs the media. And Joe is just being honest with his takes on ems new releases.
Em fans (Stans) don't portray him as an angel. Fact is Joe blamed Em and Jimmy for Slaughterhouse not blowing up and he accused them of stealing money. He was frustrated and vented in music form and on his podcast. Fact is Em and Jimmy didn't take anything and it wasn't their fault Slaughterhouse didn't blow. I'm not saying this as a Em Stan, but as someone who looked into it. I like Joe. He's a very underrated rapper and only associates with real ones. So if Em and Jimmy was taking money, why Royce still doing features with Em? Why is Crooked I and Joel Ortiz still allowing themselves to be around Em and Shady records? I think Joe just went about it the wrong way at the wrong time.
@@SpectreRyder i thought joes complain was Em never gave slaughterhouse any priority as a group rather he treated it like a group that's just there for the purpose of being there? Whatever it is,Em and Joe could handle it wayyy better! And the misunderstanding was from Joes side so it was Ems responsibility to clear the cloud but rather he took it as an opportunity to make "edgy,I don't give a f" type of album which Kamikaze was!So both kinda went on and on at each other btw as much as I acknowledge Royce and Crooks writing ability I just feel like on a greater scale they are just a bunch of yesmen now to Eminem.🤷♂️
@@fahidhassan7173 The "Edgy I don't give a f*ck" album wasn't just for Joe. It was critics in general. Slaughterhouse had all the priority. I remember after seeing them in the Forever video that most interviews Em did at that time, he shouted them out. He has admitted that maybe the records were too polished because Em produced some of the songs so it didn't have that edge to it anymore. But no every claim Joe has made about Em and Jimmy has been refuted with facts and evidence. I wanted to stand with Joe on the matter but facts speaks louder than opinions. Also even if Royce and Crooked are yesmen, that doesn't explain why Joel Ortiz is still doing records with Em and the other 2. Next to Joe Budden, Joel maybe one of the realest cats in the game and money doesn't move him. I'm not saying they are yesmen, I'm not saying they aren't, just making a point. Again I like Joe. Some Love Lost is a great album. I also agree that both parties could've went about it better.
Remy really violated Joe lmaooo
😅😅😅
She basically ethered him.
Damn she called joe puss 😂😂
Yeh, she wasnt really taking sides she cool with both, but Joe tried to play it like a politician while Em kept it hiphop
She one of the realest
This channel has huge potential. Keep the breakdowns coming.
Real talk!
I agree with you Ivan. I smell fear
Yeeees
For real hip hoppers
Facts, just noticed that this wasn't a long running channel. Definitely a channel that should have a dedicated team to grow it.
Remy told joe to his face you scared of the white boy 😂😂😂
Fam in early 2000s hella niggas was scared to diss Eminem not physically but lyrically he was hot venom back then it was creative disses with word play and funny at the same
Honestly Joe scared, if he clames to be a better MC then why not respond with bars instead of pillow talking on a podcast. The whole”I’m retired” remark is a cop out he knows Em can end careers and he don’t wanna risk it.
What Em gonna end if he's retired
Respond? To what? A domestic abuse bar? Eminem gotta come better than that to get Joe out of retirement 😭
@@jamessmith4843 and when he did spit a verse worthy, Joe played a pacifist cause he knew he couldn't fuck with it and I ain't even an em fan 😂😂😂
@@jamessmith4843 nah fam em sent smoke his way nd joe ran from it
@@jamessmith4843 no from the traitor joe bar
Crazy thing is that the way Eminem talks about Joe Biden seems that he actually genuinely respected him… Maybe like Mal and Rory
Biden or budden?
@@hunchovari I think he means the president 🤷🏽♂️
Mans said joe Biden 😂😂😂
The thing is , is em fucked up slaughterhouse
@@amareshkaimal2972 the thing is not selling units fucked slaughterhouse
Appreciate the no bullshit just straight to the bars. No he said she said or explaining the bars over and over
I love Remy 😂😂😂 also I can't stand how huge Joe's ego is. He isn't ALL that.
Joe on the mic is Nice nice nice , his production and mixes are garbage though
The beginning is slaughterhouse mocking canibus. They all antagonized canibus in o get multiple rap disses. When Royce says “kick the shit I wrote you” in an interview royce said canibus tried to get him to write all the verses on A song for him
Canibus warned Joey to not go after real MC’s. Joey did not take that warning
This channel can have content for years if we go through all of Joe’s beefs in detail 😂😂😂
5:51 lol Budden just chilling behind Em, while he's roasting him
You know that’s a different song than the video right?
@@TheMoirLabel shit is still funny though if taken out of context
@@quincyundead2417 true story.
@@TheMoirLabel no shit sherlock
😂 that's Royce anyway goofy
Remy is beautiful honestly
this an underrated channel
One of my favorite channels. Amazing idea. Keep going💯×💯
Em did show mic rust. True hiphop heads know the knowledge.
The “Now here we are.” transition was to beautiful for words 🚫🧢
*Too
@@dakotapigg6875 👍🏾
@@DadYoungbull be careful! We always have the grammar police roaming the comment section. 😆
@@edwardcolon3246 I see that lol
I like Joe, even in spite of what happened today with firing rory and mal, but Em's pretty well eviscerated him with some of his punchlines in Bang, Lock It Up, etc. If he's been better than Em the whole decade he would have written a response and not pop off on his podcast.
I love how these artists be like Em not worth the trouble of dissin AFTER they GET bodied or they DONT get the reaction they wanted to their diss track.
Love the page!! Keep it up!
"Pump, pump pump it up I'm no one hit wonder they know all my stuff " that bar still hurts
Remy Ma is a straight SAVAGE!!!! 😂 clowning that clown 🤡
Love the content...need more videos
Thankyou. Feel free to share on your platforms. Have many more tucked away. In need of awareness
Fr youll be big inno time
I AGREE THIS A TRUE HIP HOP FAN
Joe's such a good rapper it's almost a shame
Seriously
Its like a toxic relationship but with good sex
No cap I can’t name a joe budden song 😂🤷🏻♂️
Pump it up, the end song to “You Got Served” 😂🤣🤣 that’s not a good argument I know lol
Flex is a pretty good song
Also are you in the mood yet.
Just means you’re not a fan. There are probably plenty of dope emcees you’ve never heard.
@@MicRockwell187 if u think he is a dope mc than your hip hop taste is all fucked up, his bars are mediocre his word play is wack asf and his tone sound like he smokes to many cigarettes 😂 I’m a music enthusiast and a die hard hip hop fan don’t come at me for not having my ears attacked by this trash I have heard him rap and spit written freestyles but that’s how bad it is I can’t name them 1/10 stars
Damn 'em wanted bars.
3:30 made me laugh way too hard 😭😭 because he said “huh?” And that’s what I said he said that BS lmaoo
😂🤣
@dionte towles hahahahaha! He asked himself “Huh”? Like WTF did I just say? Hahaahahaah
He has been better than Em during the 2010s.
@@jaleelthompson927 don’t ever say that again 😭😭😭
@@diontetowles5593 I said what I said. I've actually listen to both Catalogs this whole time Ems best album this decade (Kamikazi) isn't better than Loose Quarter, Rage against the machine or the Slauterhouse mixtape stuff.
Keep up the fire content Brodie
I hope this channel blows. SEND THEM LIKES! Help this man
Bang remix with that Smoke/Cold/Journalist scheme/Bars was insanity. Em in his rage is untouchable.
Joe's guys couldnt co-sign him saying that he's been better than Em for a decade....
For real only parks made noise the rest where quiet thinking this nigga trippin.
5:55 I just realised Joe Budden is behind Eminem on the right in the Forever video. And Royce to the left
Your channel is DOPe
Budden: “great content, put that aside song is trash.”
Also Budden: I’ve been better than him the past decade. He has no content.
Also I need that version of bang that was played... never heard the verses this video showed
Remy Ma one of the realest
Joe's like that guy in the club who bets on his friends holding him back when going into a fight, "oh if I wasn't retired.." "it's a shame that I'm retired", ah shut up
Joe was shadow boxing 😂
"Have you heard of your own shit? " 🤣🤣
List all the songs 🎵
Eminem disliked Joe Budden, he kept him off a bunch of songs purposely, just like Lil Wayne keeps Cory Gunz from the public
Wayne ain’t hiding no one. Cory Gunz doesn’t even hang around Wayne and the camp anymore. He out in the Bronx doing his own thing.
Joe was off a few tracks because his E1 deal was restricting him from being on certain songs that Em was on.. but aside from that Em put Joe on every fucking album since haha slaughterhouse album, Shady XV album Joe was on 3 tracks , Southpaw movie with Jake Eminem produced the sound track. Em put slaughterhouse on that soundtrack and put out videos for it, Fast and furious movie. Again Slaughterhouse on that soundtrack you think they get on that soundtrack without Em? Lol Joe Career was dead before the shady deal. Slaughterhouse had a very small relatively fan base... the reason his Pod is popping is becof the shady deal it put his name back in the game. The reason Complex offered him the job is because Of the shady deal. The shady deal gave Joe another life, whether they were super successful or not. Their names were attached to Eminem, Shady and interscope.
What if told you Cory Gunz can drop music whenever he wants to and get promo for it, but he just doesnt?
Cory was just on No Ceilings 3
@@MusicMakesAdiff23 that's why Joe won't diss Em because he knows he owes him
I think it is hilarious that on Joes (is it his podcast) show he has the beats logo covered up.
Forgot the traitor joe bar from em on “lock it up”
Remy was scathing 😭
What song is this 2:56
Please do Michael Jackson and prince
Joes voice is so IRRITATING
I was just thinking that too. I’m so sick of hearing him talk, it has made it impossible to even listen to one of his songs.
@@420dizkhalifa I'm talking about his rap voice..
@@shooshoo448 I used to dislike it but you get used to it. He's a great rapper even though he wasn't hugely successful.
I’m never going against the crib for Dude! 313 for life
The second half of untouchable is fucking gold
Fact! People don’t understand the first part of the song. That song was not meant for people to dance to it. The message is on point till this day.
Watching this after seeing these interviews on muchdank is hilarious 🤣
P.S. EMINEM IS A LYRICAL SCIENTIST 👨🔬
need a full lil baby vs migos vid
What Em song is that 2:22 ?
That last song tho what was that?
Bang - conway the machine ft eminem
The original verse (leak, not the final version of the Song).
@@rotzbua2760 yeah thats true 👍
3:20 is a perfect example of why Joe ruins his opportunities for himself
name of songs?
Check the description fam
Im not 35, im 40 now, im mature 😂😂
Eminem vs Token subliminal war since 2013
Joe saying he better for a decade while putting out rage against the machine lmao got invited to dance twice and backed out
Let's not forget he tried the fast style to try to fit in with em if you the better mc why try to fit in
2020 we miss Joe budden from err day strug Wayno kl tho
When he said trash, that song was really trash
That song was trash, the only thing that could've been worth salvaging was when the beat switched, but it was trash. Joe though, he was out of line. Could've said "It's not for me, or I didn't like it." Then moved on, but he went the extra mile.
@@grimreaper4614 When have we known Joe not to be extra lol... But it's time we stop pampering Em's ego and tell him like it is, he has been below average for a while now.
@@Holason89 Oh no I'm with you there. He's some nice ass bars here and there, but he's not the same Eminem. Joe has always been extra, but considering he's signed to shady, I'm of the opinion that he should've worded it more carefully. That's my opinion for anyone signed to anyone else, or boss and employee in general. Either way, I would loved some back and forth diss tracks.
@@grimreaper4614 would have loved it but Joe is retired as a rapper and he's not signed to shady anymore since the end of slaughter house.
U shouldve added the Mood Musik 3 DVD video of joe budden saying hed want to battle eminem since he was the goat since its nowhere online and then joe bitched out at his chance to do so.
50 cent vs The Game
Damn Remy fine and right lol
3:48 she exposed that man hard af
If Joe comes out of retirement, he will lyrically violate Em. IF though ..
Cuz that's why your doing pod cast and his in a mansion. Lmfao
Joe Budden really needs to use better beats he would’ve a better rapper
Ppl say Revival is 🗑️ but it went platinum,if platinum status is 🗑️ then idk what to say
He just had a bunch of diehard fans he’s always gonna do numbers .The album was still ass
@@CT-yr8ph Vanilla Ice, 69, Soulja Boy. Sales do not equal quality you should know better than that.
@@CT-yr8ph nah the album was mid you probably never listened to it lmfao yall braindead sheep just follow the hate trend for no gain
@@supaman432 yeah but the difference is Vanilla is trash and Em is the goat 🤷♂️📠
@@grump9283 album was trash after the first listen and it will continue to be ain’t no way around it
Idk why people don’t think Joe Budden can’t rap
Is Budden high @3:20 ?
Probably lmao
Eminem was hurt 😂no kap that’s one of the worst songs I’ve ever heard lol
Wgat is this last diss from em?
It’s a leaked version of a song called Bang by Conway the machine ft Eminem
People sleep on Joe Budden. Just saying
Facts! All ppl know is pump it up, I personally think that's one of his worst songs. I will advise a lot of ppl to check out mood music 3 an awesome album.
This was the most stupidest beef ever. SMH! IJS
I mean, let’s keep it honest here folks, Revival is TRASH. Even Eminem knows that himself lol.
@Prime Daily Quotes to each its own. The production was not great at all compared to other Ems albums. However, there are some songs from Revival that will be classics. Anyways, like I said. To each its own.
@@edwardcolon3246 Majority say it’s trash. But you’re right, to each it’s own.
Not really lol yall braindead sheep who Didn't even listen to it just get pimped by the media 🤡 clowns revival is a solid album
@@grump9283 I did listen to it. It’s trash in my opinion. If you think it’s not trash then that’s ok. 👍
The only way to beat em is to not say nth or think nth caz if u do u already lost
Why Royce say “kick that shit I wrote you” to Em?.... wtffffffff
They always joke around like that claiming they write each others song
50 cent vs FAT joe!!!!!!
5:51
Eminem really said "black boy black boy"
You clearly haven’t heard the song
@@ssjalpha6593 i have that shit is trash lol
@@joe.limbus meaning you didnt get the point of it. move along child little pump is waiting for a album sell.
@@TrayDTV I don't think people is talking about the meaning, we get the meaning its just that Revival was not a good album and Em is one of my fav rappers.
@@BoboKoyo Eminem didn't argue Revival to be a good or bad album. He's just not happy peeps like Joe refused to be diplomatic during criticism just to get some shot lived attention
Joey was scared.
Joe was right, that song was so ass..
Em's music does suck now but I can't say it's the absolute worst. I'd definitely be in favor of wadding up this particular song and screaming"KOBE" as I dispose of it though
tbh i believe if joe rapped back he'd tore em up but his fans would've brushed it under the rug as best as possible
wanna buy some land on this asteroid i own?
@@BruceKendallMartinJr bruh?? 🤣🤣
Why remy take his man hood
We don’t take opinions seriously from c tier rappers like Remy lmao
@@henrychinaski5938 better than a D tier rapper like Budden lmao
@@grump9283 I'm dead
Honestly Em and Joe would have been a great duo but regardless of Joe's feelings towards Em Joe is too out of pocket. Joe is a top tier rapper but he his personality gets in the way of business etc.
Also that beat Em picked for his song they showed wasn't really it but I'm sure there was a reason for the beat choice
It’s funny Joe really thinking he’s fucking with Em. Joe is scared. That’s why he hasn’t responded to any of the shit Em has said about him.
I think he’s scared of losing all that corporate money.
I see the point joe makes, ive seen a decline in eminems albums. He sells cuz of his name but doesn't stay relevant due to music he's always dissin someone or try to get a shock and awe from a celebrity or a celebrities fans or tries to say anything just for shock value. I would like to see them go at it on wax tho. Obviously eminem is bothered by joe and joe comes off as a hater cuz he hasnt dropped a diss track aimed at em.
Someone who speaks sense. Em has been on the decline for years... literally sells because of his name and his prime, but his music is honestly so bad now.
Eminem is literally putting shock value songs out since his first day out..
Yall are just crying joe nuthuggers lmfao
@@unrealtournamenttdot
What an insanely dumb comment. You think his name would still carry him 25 years into his career if people didnt actually care for his music? What a ridiculous take
I SWEAR Em been sneak dissing Drake (do not compare me to.. milli vanillin hip hop, compare me to meek biggie and Pac)🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔🤔
He said nas biggie or pac fam..
did you just say he said fucking meek😂😂 lmaooo
Joe Budden is better then Eminem - Since when? Am sure no one ever heard of him since the beef started. And i'll bet money, ain't nobody buy or even listen to his shit.
being popular doesn't mean you better. Being better is purely off skills and talent not being popular.
@@slump9835 That's truth - in statistic sense, can show you a lot on who better. You can't brag about something, if you know your shit is wack. It's like two business own trying to compete -yea, you can still get better at a skill.
My thing is..
Please Keep Eminem ( Rap God) HAPPY, ONLY!!!!!
WE ALL KNOW WHEN EMINEM GETS MAD OR ANGRY..
WE KNOW..👑
Revival was shit untouchable was the only good song on there. But after revival eminem came back and is defo way better now.
Yo i cant take em seriously when i look at him rap lmao either im racist or im racist but it be looking cringey af
“mY LoYALty iS tO ROYcE” yeah well Royce’s loyalty is to Em
Mac Miller the best lyricist to ever do it em knows
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Wait who dissed Mac?
In stephen smith voice: excuse me?
if joe really thought he was better for a decade then he really is delusional. he equate podcasting to releasing music? the music made more money. so how?
Eminem picks the worst beats ever
Em fell off and he knows it too. Sucked consistently for a long time but people won't admit because it's Em
@Ash Salvatore!! If sales were relevant Rakim, Nas and Biggy wouldn't be considered one of the best to ever touch the mic. I mean Who gets outsold by Nas?
@@donwolf9490 fell off on the technical side of rap? Because if you say so you're full of shit, otherwise if we're talking bout music he's had a couple good songs these couple albums but he's not doing the best musically.
@@serps2833 exactly, lyrically he's awesome. But Em has sucked for years now. He can't make a solid project and why should we not critique? No solid work even MMLP 2 bombed
@@donwolf9490 MMLP2 was dope. And if record sales dont matter when propping up an artist, the same standard should be applied when discrediting them. Besides, MMLP2s sales were actually quite high considering the era we're in.
@@viceversamusic I never use sales as a point of reference. I really don't have time for that. Black Thought is top tier, yet does not sell more albums than a lot of artists. The numbers thing was mentioned by another person so makes no difference, my whole point is that Em has been consistently weak yet people do not want to admit it
Here's a clip of EM rapping.
Here's Joe Budden talking.
Here's a clip of EM rapping.
Here's Joe Budden talking.
... Tbh, I can't think of a single Joe Budden song title...? 🤔 Does he make music?
Hey Stan
@@OMAR-vk9pi hey pal, how's it going?
Joe had faults too but Em wasn't the angel stans try to portray him either! Joe was angry,they could have talked it out but Em handled it like a bitch for real!
Well it is what it is. I iust think people put way too much drama into this when Joe never actually responded on a track. This is just typical eminem vs the media. And Joe is just being honest with his takes on ems new releases.
Em fans (Stans) don't portray him as an angel. Fact is Joe blamed Em and Jimmy for Slaughterhouse not blowing up and he accused them of stealing money. He was frustrated and vented in music form and on his podcast. Fact is Em and Jimmy didn't take anything and it wasn't their fault Slaughterhouse didn't blow. I'm not saying this as a Em Stan, but as someone who looked into it. I like Joe. He's a very underrated rapper and only associates with real ones. So if Em and Jimmy was taking money, why Royce still doing features with Em? Why is Crooked I and Joel Ortiz still allowing themselves to be around Em and Shady records? I think Joe just went about it the wrong way at the wrong time.
@@SpectreRyder i thought joes complain was Em never gave slaughterhouse any priority as a group rather he treated it like a group that's just there for the purpose of being there? Whatever it is,Em and Joe could handle it wayyy better! And the misunderstanding was from Joes side so it was Ems responsibility to clear the cloud but rather he took it as an opportunity to make "edgy,I don't give a f" type of album which Kamikaze was!So both kinda went on and on at each other btw as much as I acknowledge Royce and Crooks writing ability I just feel like on a greater scale they are just a bunch of yesmen now to Eminem.🤷♂️
@@fahidhassan7173 The "Edgy I don't give a f*ck" album wasn't just for Joe. It was critics in general. Slaughterhouse had all the priority. I remember after seeing them in the Forever video that most interviews Em did at that time, he shouted them out. He has admitted that maybe the records were too polished because Em produced some of the songs so it didn't have that edge to it anymore. But no every claim Joe has made about Em and Jimmy has been refuted with facts and evidence. I wanted to stand with Joe on the matter but facts speaks louder than opinions. Also even if Royce and Crooked are yesmen, that doesn't explain why Joel Ortiz is still doing records with Em and the other 2. Next to Joe Budden, Joel maybe one of the realest cats in the game and money doesn't move him. I'm not saying they are yesmen, I'm not saying they aren't, just making a point. Again I like Joe. Some Love Lost is a great album. I also agree that both parties could've went about it better.
Can't agree more.
Joe way better.
If you're brain-dead yes
At what? Complaining? 🤣
Cry baby joe
walk wit me is his only good song foh 🤣🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂
Lies
@@BSealeFLent nah that’s fax foh