And still Messi fans didn't do the rigged robbed chant. We know Messi has enough of it and even without this he is the best player and its not even close. And we also know that Rigged and Robbed chants are trademarks of a certain Social Media fanbase who has less interest in football.
I mean sure, but VVD had practically the perfect season for a defender possible. Him not winning after what he did that year proves that defenders are naturally at a disadvantage when it comes to major individual awards.
@@riquetc0060 VanDjik himself, and almost the whole Liverpool team admitted that Messi deserved to win the 2019 Ballon D'Or, so I guess that settles the debate. The only two I can consider that can go against Messi is the 2010 and 2021 ones. But, then again the 2013 one should have gone to Ribery by similar logic. As far as the 2023 one is concerned, no doubt that Messi deserved it. In 1990 Mattheus won it, in 1994 Stoichkov won it, in 1998 Zidane won it, in 2002 Ronaldo won it, in 2006 Cannavaro won it, in 2018 Modric won it for exact same reason which is the World Cup. You can have a phenomenal season for club, a historic one but in a World Cup year its almost always the World Cup that matters.
@@swapnanilkundu8948 What people say doesn't matter. People, including professional footballers are wrong all the time. VVD was better at defending than Messi was at attacking that particular year, that's all I'm saying. But if goals and assists are the main thing that governs balon d'or voting then sure Messi deserved it.
@@riquetc0060 VVD was in prime liverpool and had the likes of salah, mane, firmino, trent, alison and others while messi was in a dead barca team carrying them to a UCL semi final, laliga , super copa and cdr final in which he was the top scorer of each competiton and had the most assists if VVD was that better he should've gotten a better rating and more MOTMs than messi but no he doesn't, everyone that says he didn't deserves it are ronaldo fans or people that didn't watch them play because messi was the clear cut best player in 2019!
I feel like people just got tired of seeing Messi win it. If you switch Messi's records with his direct opponent's in all the years they said he shouldn't have won, people will still make thesame argument that he did not deserve it. I guess that's the price he has to pay for being the greatest of all time.
@aleksandre9711 At the same time, they gave it to Ronaldo in 2013 with no trophies over Ribery, who did the treble with Bayern, because they didn't want to break the Messi-Ronaldo deadlock in the Ballon d'or voting, at least going by your logic that would be the case. In reality, it had nothing to do with robbing Ribery. Truth is, anyone with two eyes could see Ronaldo was the better player, and he had his best numbers that year, which got him the award. Same with Messi in 19,21, and 22. Messi was just a better player than his competitor each year, Haaland and Lewandoski were goal machines but they lacked the dribbling and passing ability of Messi, and with him winning international trophies in 21 and 22, it tipped the scale in his favour. 19 he won the double vs VVD who won the CL only so that edged him out there.
@@aleksandre9711🤡 You never heard a Messi fan saying that Messi deserved it in 2018 right. Do you know who was the top scorer and also the top assist provider in 2018? It was Messi. Modric won it because of hs international performance. And it's okay, don't be salty
I remember that 2002 world cup where Ronaldo won it. When we came back from the summer break at least 10 kids in my school rocked up with that haircut.
I am sorry, but everyone who is saying that Holland deserved it is missing a point. This is an award for the best PLAYER of the year, Holland was the best goal scorer for that year, completely ghosting in important games. Messi's World Cup performance was the best individual performance in 18 years, after Zidane's, definitely a historical one with scoring and assisting in almost every game. Also, do not forget that at PSG, his free kick won them the ligue and his performance at inter miami won them their first ever cup. This was a genius year for Messi, and to do all this at that age is mind-blowing
100% Haaland was not even top 3 best players at Man City. KDB was clearly the most important player, carrying the team vs Real Madrid (1st leg) and title decider vs Arsenal, which where the most crucial games for Man City's treble. Then there was Bernardo Silva who was just all around the best player in that Man City squad, even Pep was outright saying it, he played the most minutes and also stepped up in big games vs Bayern Munich and Real Madrid 2nd leg. Rodri was also more important than Haaland, being the most consistent and snatching the UCL title which was the club's biggest dream. When you play as a sole striker with those 3 players behind you, it's really hard to take credit for Man City's treble. That team was literally creating on average 14 chances in the box, PER GAME...
Guys please react to this is why Lionel Msssi is the best player of the 2018/19 season by magical messi. You haven’t reacted to his 2019 season yet you will love it x
Let's be actually honest I get that some years there are other worthy winners but if you really look at it every year Messi and Ronaldo won was deserved, if they didn't have the trophies, they had the individual stats and performances.
It doesn't make sense that people still think Messi didn't deserve the 2021 ballon d'Or. Lewandowski rightfully deserved the award the year prior to that year but 2021 was Messi's year. Individually, Lewa only beat him in goals scored that year, scoring 61 compared to Messi's 42 (a number which is relatively high for any average player). Lewa was awarded the European golden boot (for top scorer) which he rightfully deserved. Trophy wise, Lewa only won the German league whose ranking is low compared to the Premier League and La liga. At club level, Messi won the Spanish cup and Spanish super cup and was the best player for both. At national level, he won the Copa America with Argentina and was the competition's top scorer, best playmaker and overall best player... Meanwhile, lewa didn't perform well with the national team (And we know the importance of international trophies in ballon d'Or rankings). So to put everything Messi achieved that year statistically and trophy wise, he was the inevitable winner but unfortunately most people use the sentiment of Lewa not winning the ballon d'Or in 2020 to judge 2021. NB: All these statistics don't tell the whole story... Cuz if we consider the "watch factor/eye test", Messi was miles ahead of any player in 2021, especially during the final half of the club season and during the Copa America, where he was simply Magical...🚶🏾♀️
Lionel Messi did not only win the World Cup that year, he was also the top scorer during the Cup AND voted the best player in the World Cup! There was no way he was going to lose the Ballon D'or that year!
If the Ballon d'Or was truely an individual award, Messi would've won the award from 2009 up until 2021. Messi would've won the award for 12 years straight, if it was a truely an individual award
@@TheCouto11I think what he meant his , in 2013 Ronaldo didn’t has a trophy and the only reason he won was because Messi got injured and miss many games which is why Messi had less goals but Messi had a trophy Ronaldo didn’t, 2014 Messi got to a wc final same way modric got to a wc final and won ballondor, 2016,2017,2018 Messi had more goals contributions and even more man of the matches and performed better than anybody these years but you know why he didn’t win? Champions league , and these years , 2016,2017,2018 Madrid won the ucl but if you take the ucl away Messi had more g/a than anybody , and funny fact in 2018 Messi didn’t make it to top 5 ballondor ranking, but he had more goals and assists just didn’t perform in the ucl. I’m not saying I agree with what the dude said I’m just saying I get why he said that. I’ll rephrase it now IF BALLONDOR WAS ACTUALLY BASED ON THE BEST PLAYER PERFORMANCE JUST INDIVIDUALLY MESSI WOILD HAVE MORE . Because him not winning the champions league is not his fault it’s a team trophy and team effort, but individually he performed better ,especially in assits , this man can score 50 goals and assist 30 alongside still have more man of the matches than some players number of assists but still will not win ballondor just because he didn’t win ucl 🤷♂️ which is a team effort.
2021 honestly was people being happy someone out scored Messi and Ronaldo for the first time. Messi was the better player, Robert was the better striker. Him claiming Roberto Lewandowski was a better player is a reach, cause statically Messi completed the most dribble, the most passes, created the most chances, had better assists, scored over 40 goals, scored more goals in less chances than Lewandowski. Lewandowski did good for Bayern Munich, Messi did good for both Barcelona and Argentina
What could have Lewa done with Poland? One of the worst performing nations in Europe. Goals are most important metric in football for attacker. No amount of dribbles will change that.
something yall need to understand is that if it was soely based on individual performances messi could've won all the ballondors each year as he has the most goal contribution and other individual stats!
At 36:27 , when you say its individual , well no its not. Pretty much nothing is 100% individual in football (thats logical its a team sport) . When Haaland receive a ball in the penalty area and score , thats not at all a 100% individual goal. I mean if he was alone he wouldnt have got the balll. A REAL individual goal is when you got the ball at 40 meter you pass two defender and then score without the help of anyone AND even here its not even 100% individual since your teammates are making sure thats its impossible for the entire enemy team to rush your face. SO what the ballon d'or take in account is the impact you have for your teams. SO YES its logical to count Tiltes IF you had a BIG impact in the victory. (and like com'on i'm not devaluating Haaland performance but you cant say that a tap-in or a penalty is an individual play)
The world cup is a team effort but individual performance counts as well he showed without a doubt the greatest performance of the tournament focusing on play making
Messi deserved all his balloon d’ors and even more the greatest of all time anyone who thinks otherwise doesn’t know football. It’s only delusional Ronaldo fans that are clueless and love his six pack more than his footballing abilities. I've watched Messi for years stats and words don't do him justice they don't show the things he does every game. Like; first touches, superhuman vision, the dribbling away from 4 players at once, creating passing lanes that don't exist, putting the perfect weight on the pass for his teammates. Although Leo has the best stats in football history
2019 is the most deserve award for Leo Messi ,definition of One man Army Golden boot,IFFH playmaker award , most assists Two trophies and Uefa champions league runner up with UEFA golden boot and most freekicks As for 2021 He won his first ever international trophy in style , finishing up as both Top scorer and assist , no one had ever done that before
@@diptangshusarkar6652 no need to be an idiot messi is the best football player ever but this award is complete idiocy is it normal for him to receive this award 2 years in a row just because he won the world cup? or was it normal for modric to win the award just because he was in real madrid when ronaldo deserved it?
Although i'm a Madridista by heart but as long as Messi is playing he always deserves the Ballon d'or! Anyone who watch football or have a basic knowledge in football will say Messi is the greatest player that ever lived. I've never seen anyone better than him, he now have 8 Ballon d'ors, 4 UCLs and the World Cup! He's the undisputed 🐐
I want 2024 award to go to Carvahal but im pretty sure he will be overlooked for Vini. Carvahal won almost everything for club and country and playing a crucial role for both
Messi deserved all of his Ballon d'or. If you don't see why, you're probably a hater or finding reasons for him not to win coz you ain't looking at it clearly. Thats just it. Messi adds the most value to any team he plays individually and that's why he becomes the best player in the world. Thats a fact
It is an award that is highly controversial because it does consider everything. It considers the players image/behavior and fair play, how many trophies they won with their team, and their individual statistics. You can find this information on the FIFA website. For the majority of the time, performances at an international level and trophies won internationally are always a priority, with world cup being number 1. There is always controversy even with these conditions and criteria because there is no consistency.
@@otunlaisaac5666 Yea I think that’s true to a certain extent. Especially, with Barca and Madrid, but Messi and Ronaldo did spoil us with insane stats and performances.
Suarez should have won for his 13/14 season at Liverpool. 31 goals out of 33 games in the PL, missed five games and wasn’t even the penalty taker. Best in the world that season.
He didn’t rob anything, 2023 Messi played great and won many trophies. World Cup played a huge part just like how modric has a great performance in his World Cup 2018. But instead Messi played much better and carried his team. Halaand had great year but world cup is the greatest trophy of all time. Haaland as a player isn’t near Messi’s level, he’s just a great striker. There’s trophies for strikers
What many don't realise is that if the ballondor was solely based on individual performance Messi would still have at least 8 ballondor while CR7 would have 2 or 3. Whether you go by direct goal contribution or man of the match performances Messi still gets about 8 ballondor. The year modric won for example Messi had the best overall individual stat but finished 5th yet you don't see anyone crying over that
The balon dor is really praise for your play for your country because when you look at the top lists every year it’s just a bunch of inconsistencies like this year Niko being top 15 makes no sense when you look how he performed for his club but he’s there because of his euros performances but nobody on the planet would think he was top 15 last year
Figo moving to Real from Barça was like if Magic moved to Celtic. thankfully, gun is illegal in America. had it been the other way, it'd be a miracle he's alive. cause the hate he got from the fans was frightening
Figo moved straight from Barca to Madrid, Ronaldo moved to Inter Milan before he signed to Madrid. As you've simply seen he won the Balon d'Or at Madrid, for what he did at Barca, that's tough for Barca fans.
Ronaldo went to a different league after Barcelona before Madrid bought him. Figo went from Barcelona straight to Madrid. That’s why it was so controversial
I believe they take the trophies into account based on your individual stats during the competitions in question. So yeah, your team might win those trophies, but how much did YOU as an individual player impact the results? I don't think it's just the trophies themselves...
Saying messi didn’t deserve the ballon dior is like saying LeBron doesn’t deserve MVP like be real with yourself that man should’ve won it every year if it was about the best individual player.
Ballon dor is corrupt, there are many players who deserved to win ballon dor, the likes of Iniesta,xavi Lewandowski, zlatan, di Maria, robben, ribery, sneigder,neymar the list is endless
In 2018 Messi was Europe's Top Scorer and Assister and yet they didn't even rank him TOP 4. People might disagree but Messi 100% deserved it in 2019, that Barça team was so shit and Messi carried them on his back to a league title.
My issue is the qualifications for winning the award year to year is inconsistent. One year it's because of numbers. Another year it's because of trophies or a good run in the World Cup. World Cup is the biggest award but it shouldn't have as much pull as it does for B'dor winner. It's supposed to be award given for having a great all around season. Not just one great run in a month long tournament.
If mookie says the ballon d’or is off individual statistics then messi should have won it every year as pep guardiola said, messi always had the best stats but he didn’t always win the bug trophies which led him to not winning it always😊
So if sneijder, lewa, van dijk and Haaland were robbed that’s 4 putting Messi at 4 ballon d’ors…then Ronaldo snubbed Ribery but was robbed by modric that would put him at 5 ballon d’ors 🤷♂️
Messi was better than Ronaldo in 2018 so how was Ronaldo robbed? Plus if people think VVD, Haaland and Sneijder were robbed they genuinely don't watch football. Not one of them deserved it more than Messi, the only debatable one is Lewa in 2020, baring that Messi deserved it every time. Ribery didn't deserve it over Ronaldo either, lets not start lying, these are just opinions each players fanboys ran with in order to diminish the others achievements.
The 2013 version of cristiano Ronaldo was one of the greatest in the history of football. Everyone who watched Ronaldo that year knew that he was the complete version of a footballer/athlete. You need to check the 2013 version of cristiano Ronaldo.
Barcelona almost went bankrupt because they bought the Ballon d'or for messi. and madrid bought the ballon d'or for modric because ronaldo had moved to juventus in 2018. don't forget, ronaldo moved to juventus: 10 or 11 July 2018 and modric won the ballon d'or: 3 or 4 december 2018. Maybe madrid wants to have players with the Ballon d'or as their ego/prestige/dignity Hahaha😂😂😂 If i may say so, madrid once bought it for ronaldo too.
About this rigging Messi balon the oro's, still 70%of people who watch football wouldn't agree... And besides the voting people are the biggest experts ex players, coaches who vote. Not some random people who don't even watch football and understands it...those who ACTULLY watched allmost all games in last 25 years don't think any of the ballon the oro was not deserved by Messi
@@KAT-xi3ol but if you say that, then why did Messi win in 2010 over Sneijder who won the UCL, Serie A and Coppa Italia(and reached the final in the World Cup while Messi had his worst World Cup run ever)?
Nah Messi is just better , if you watch him play he is just the best , Messi is more than just stats snd trophies , He is magic and beauty of Football too
Dude ronaldo madrid fan you said that messi didn't deserve it in 2023 because he wasn't the best player individualy then why he ranked 5 in 2018 when he was the top goals scorer
@@lvcrmamil He’s good person and don’t get me wrong there’s nothing more he could’ve done. But faced one of the greatest versions of Messi who reached new heights in 2019. Virgil always referred to Messi as the goat and commented on his insta when he won the wc
La liga is more of an offensive league historically. Messi should have never stayed at Barcelona that long for me. He realized that and took advantage. kaka was playing in the toughest league at the time while cr7 trained harder. Barcelona could have won the same amount of trophies without Messi. Man U and Milan declined
They were scared Ronaldo would get more balon dors than Messi so they gave it to modric thinking Ronaldo and Messi were done. They just wanted to break the dominance between Ronaldo and Messi. Toni kroos rated above modric in that real Madrid team for that 2018 year 👍🏼
The Ballon d'Or being the best player in the world award, Haaland winning it would be the worst thing for him, his a phenomenal striker, terrible player. The guy loses about 63% of the balls he get deep. Dude played 4 finals and 3 semi finals that year and failed to score or assist in any. When it matters most, Haaland disappears. He is a finisher, not a player
The real number of ballon d'ors messi and ronaldo deservered imo is : Messi : 6 (robbed iniesta (or sneijder), lewandowski, and arguably van dijk) Ronaldo : 5 (robbed ribery but modric robbed him) What's y'all number ?
Absolute nonsense no way Messi robbed Schneider, for a fact in 2010 Schneider had a season comparable to Nedved but in a Jose team. Iniesta is absolutely golden but nowhere near Messi 2010. Lewa and Van djik are not even in the convo. You wouldn’t even mention Lewa in the same breath as R9 or Van Basten. Van Djik is a discount Vidic. As for Ribery, stop the 🧢. He couldn’t dust off CR7’s boot. This must be a joke. I’m guessing you’re American
The fact that you can't even make your mind on to who he robbed btw Iniesta and Sneijder just shows you only have problem with Messi winning - not that he didn't deserve it. Sneijder didn’t even made the top 3, how tf you guys want him to win baffles me😂
Messi deserved all of his Ballon d'ors! He's the best player ever I've ever seen. Ronaldo is a remarkable specimen of a human being; Messi looks like the boy next door and performs like a god! 🐐
The Balon D'or is solely on how much of an impact you have on the field and how big of a footprint you leave in that specific year. Numbers do that, but trophies are the main goal for everyone playing football. Any player can win a cup with their team but how the specific player performed on the way to the finals and the whole season determines if they are good enough to win the Balon D'or. Some controversial decisions can be made, but those decisions are only seen by people who watch highlights of these people and not their whole year's performances. Saying it's politics when it comes to Messi's Balon D'or wins or Ronaldo's wins is basically just you saying any player could've done what they did. And that is definitely wrong.
There are not just goals, assists and trophies that matter in balon the oro... There are dribles, playmaking,passes completed,Long passes, tacles,clearences, and everything you can measured a Player in this posicion he playes... Messi every year he plays, he is the Best in ,6 or 7 of those things... That's why Messi doesn't need so much goals, becose he makes 5 other things the Best ..Messi without a goal or assists has a better Match rating then Cristiano with a goal and assists... Overall year Rating is considered in the balon the oro tooo, and if you Look overall year Ratings of Players since 2008, Messi was the Best 16 Times, vs Cristiano Just 1time... Goals are not everything guys👌
The guy doing this video is a MESSI fan, i knew the second he did not let the people know exactly what haaland had accomplished in that year, it still puts Messi fans into humongous SHAME 😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😭
Mookie do you not understand Messi was the best player at the wc and performed to a ridiculous standard. Even at 35 he led Argentina to that victory and had one of the best campaigns. CR7 has never dragged Portugal to a wc final let alone win it whilst being the best player. Messi did that twice and one once he also has stats to back it up the winners celebrate and losers complain 🐐
Mooky is allowing the propaganda to turn to his reality disrespecting the goat is outrageous with non factual statements. You gotta up your ball knowledge as this channel grows
Hey family do y’all think some of these was rigged ?🤔
You guys should react to Rivaldo. He was like a Brazilian Zidane
No bro cause its a people choice award....
@@pauloe.8593got you family
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@@tauquinlottering5904 it was never a ppls choice award why are you lying
In 2018 Messi was Europe's Top Scorer and Assister and yet they didn't even rank him TOP 4
And still Messi fans didn't do the rigged robbed chant. We know Messi has enough of it and even without this he is the best player and its not even close.
And we also know that Rigged and Robbed chants are trademarks of a certain Social Media fanbase who has less interest in football.
91 goals and 22 assists is some video game cheat code numbers.. Messi was so extraordinary stuff. He and CR7 broke football statistically.
they really spoiled us
People might disagree but Messi 100% deserved it in 2019, that Barça team was so shit and Messi carried them on his back to a league title.
I mean sure, but VVD had practically the perfect season for a defender possible. Him not winning after what he did that year proves that defenders are naturally at a disadvantage when it comes to major individual awards.
@@riquetc0060 VanDjik himself, and almost the whole Liverpool team admitted that Messi deserved to win the 2019 Ballon D'Or, so I guess that settles the debate. The only two I can consider that can go against Messi is the 2010 and 2021 ones. But, then again the 2013 one should have gone to Ribery by similar logic. As far as the 2023 one is concerned, no doubt that Messi deserved it. In 1990 Mattheus won it, in 1994 Stoichkov won it, in 1998 Zidane won it, in 2002 Ronaldo won it, in 2006 Cannavaro won it, in 2018 Modric won it for exact same reason which is the World Cup. You can have a phenomenal season for club, a historic one but in a World Cup year its almost always the World Cup that matters.
@riquetc0060 if Liverpool had won the league, Van Dijk would have won it, problem Liverpool had a tendency of winning one trophy per season
@@swapnanilkundu8948 What people say doesn't matter. People, including professional footballers are wrong all the time. VVD was better at defending than Messi was at attacking that particular year, that's all I'm saying. But if goals and assists are the main thing that governs balon d'or voting then sure Messi deserved it.
@@riquetc0060 VVD was in prime liverpool and had the likes of salah, mane, firmino, trent, alison and others while messi was in a dead barca team carrying them to a UCL semi final, laliga , super copa and cdr final in which he was the top scorer of each competiton and had the most assists if VVD was that better he should've gotten a better rating and more MOTMs than messi but no he doesn't, everyone that says he didn't deserves it are ronaldo fans or people that didn't watch them play because messi was the clear cut best player in 2019!
I feel like people just got tired of seeing Messi win it. If you switch Messi's records with his direct opponent's in all the years they said he shouldn't have won, people will still make thesame argument that he did not deserve it.
I guess that's the price he has to pay for being the greatest of all time.
I mean they gave it to Modric when they didn’t want Ronaldo to go ahead. After that Van Djik deserved that b dor.
@aleksandre9711 At the same time, they gave it to Ronaldo in 2013 with no trophies over Ribery, who did the treble with Bayern, because they didn't want to break the Messi-Ronaldo deadlock in the Ballon d'or voting, at least going by your logic that would be the case.
In reality, it had nothing to do with robbing Ribery. Truth is, anyone with two eyes could see Ronaldo was the better player, and he had his best numbers that year, which got him the award. Same with Messi in 19,21, and 22. Messi was just a better player than his competitor each year, Haaland and Lewandoski were goal machines but they lacked the dribbling and passing ability of Messi, and with him winning international trophies in 21 and 22, it tipped the scale in his favour. 19 he won the double vs VVD who won the CL only so that edged him out there.
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You never heard a Messi fan saying that Messi deserved it in 2018 right.
Do you know who was the top scorer and also the top assist provider in 2018? It was Messi. Modric won it because of hs international performance. And it's okay, don't be salty
I remember that 2002 world cup where Ronaldo won it.
When we came back from the summer break at least 10 kids in my school rocked up with that haircut.
I am sorry, but everyone who is saying that Holland deserved it is missing a point. This is an award for the best PLAYER of the year, Holland was the best goal scorer for that year, completely ghosting in important games. Messi's World Cup performance was the best individual performance in 18 years, after Zidane's, definitely a historical one with scoring and assisting in almost every game. Also, do not forget that at PSG, his free kick won them the ligue and his performance at inter miami won them their first ever cup. This was a genius year for Messi, and to do all this at that age is mind-blowing
100% Haaland was not even top 3 best players at Man City. KDB was clearly the most important player, carrying the team vs Real Madrid (1st leg) and title decider vs Arsenal, which where the most crucial games for Man City's treble. Then there was Bernardo Silva who was just all around the best player in that Man City squad, even Pep was outright saying it, he played the most minutes and also stepped up in big games vs Bayern Munich and Real Madrid 2nd leg. Rodri was also more important than Haaland, being the most consistent and snatching the UCL title which was the club's biggest dream. When you play as a sole striker with those 3 players behind you, it's really hard to take credit for Man City's treble. That team was literally creating on average 14 chances in the box, PER GAME...
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Rodri or KdB should've won it then. Messi robbed them
Guys please react to this is why Lionel Msssi is the best player of the 2018/19 season by magical messi. You haven’t reacted to his 2019 season yet you will love it x
Let's be actually honest I get that some years there are other worthy winners but if you really look at it every year Messi and Ronaldo won was deserved, if they didn't have the trophies, they had the individual stats and performances.
It doesn't make sense that people still think Messi didn't deserve the 2021 ballon d'Or. Lewandowski rightfully deserved the award the year prior to that year but 2021 was Messi's year. Individually, Lewa only beat him in goals scored that year, scoring 61 compared to Messi's 42 (a number which is relatively high for any average player). Lewa was awarded the European golden boot (for top scorer) which he rightfully deserved. Trophy wise, Lewa only won the German league whose ranking is low compared to the Premier League and La liga. At club level, Messi won the Spanish cup and Spanish super cup and was the best player for both. At national level, he won the Copa America with Argentina and was the competition's top scorer, best playmaker and overall best player... Meanwhile, lewa didn't perform well with the national team (And we know the importance of international trophies in ballon d'Or rankings).
So to put everything Messi achieved that year statistically and trophy wise, he was the inevitable winner but unfortunately most people use the sentiment of Lewa not winning the ballon d'Or in 2020 to judge 2021.
NB: All these statistics don't tell the whole story... Cuz if we consider the "watch factor/eye test", Messi was miles ahead of any player in 2021, especially during the final half of the club season and during the Copa America, where he was simply Magical...🚶🏾♀️
Lionel Messi did not only win the World Cup that year, he was also the top scorer during the Cup AND voted the best player in the World Cup! There was no way he was going to lose the Ballon D'or that year!
the top scorer during the Cup was Mbappe with 8 goals, Messi scored 7
@@EmiliioNMessi was still the best player in that World Cup
He won world cup player of the tournament for that. Messi didn’t deserve that b’dor as other players were much better in club football.
If the Ballon d'Or was truely an individual award, Messi would've won the award from 2009 up until 2021. Messi would've won the award for 12 years straight, if it was a truely an individual award
@@Tariq0826Exactly!!!!
Holy waffle
bro what are you yapping about... individual ronaldo had better years then messi
@@TheCouto11I think what he meant his , in 2013 Ronaldo didn’t has a trophy and the only reason he won was because Messi got injured and miss many games which is why Messi had less goals but Messi had a trophy Ronaldo didn’t, 2014 Messi got to a wc final same way modric got to a wc final and won ballondor, 2016,2017,2018 Messi had more goals contributions and even more man of the matches and performed better than anybody these years but you know why he didn’t win? Champions league , and these years , 2016,2017,2018 Madrid won the ucl but if you take the ucl away Messi had more g/a than anybody , and funny fact in 2018 Messi didn’t make it to top 5 ballondor ranking, but he had more goals and assists just didn’t perform in the ucl. I’m not saying I agree with what the dude said I’m just saying I get why he said that. I’ll rephrase it now IF BALLONDOR WAS ACTUALLY BASED ON THE BEST PLAYER PERFORMANCE JUST INDIVIDUALLY MESSI WOILD HAVE MORE . Because him not winning the champions league is not his fault it’s a team trophy and team effort, but individually he performed better ,especially in assits , this man can score 50 goals and assist 30 alongside still have more man of the matches than some players number of assists but still will not win ballondor just because he didn’t win ucl 🤷♂️ which is a team effort.
Bullshit. Farming eibars don’t get you bdors. He didn’t win cus he didn’t show up in big games.
The guy who made the video is a Messi hater, oh my god man😂😂
@@LimoMolelekwa-xz8hi it’s clear 🤣
He don't deserve it in 2021 thats just clear wtf you talking about
So y'all mfs genuinely think an MLS player winning balon d'or makes sense?
How? For bringing up his controversial ballon d’or he should have won 5 the last 3 he won imo we’re robbery.
Messi didn’t deserve more than 6. And if Messi deserved it over Van Djik, so did Ronaldo over Modric. Should be 6-6.
2021 honestly was people being happy someone out scored Messi and Ronaldo for the first time. Messi was the better player, Robert was the better striker. Him claiming Roberto Lewandowski was a better player is a reach, cause statically Messi completed the most dribble, the most passes, created the most chances, had better assists, scored over 40 goals, scored more goals in less chances than Lewandowski. Lewandowski did good for Bayern Munich, Messi did good for both Barcelona and Argentina
What could have Lewa done with Poland? One of the worst performing nations in Europe. Goals are most important metric in football for attacker. No amount of dribbles will change that.
something yall need to understand is that if it was soely based on individual performances messi could've won all the ballondors each year as he has the most goal contribution and other individual stats!
At 36:27 , when you say its individual , well no its not. Pretty much nothing is 100% individual in football (thats logical its a team sport) . When Haaland receive a ball in the penalty area and score , thats not at all a 100% individual goal. I mean if he was alone he wouldnt have got the balll. A REAL individual goal is when you got the ball at 40 meter you pass two defender and then score without the help of anyone AND even here its not even 100% individual since your teammates are making sure thats its impossible for the entire enemy team to rush your face. SO what the ballon d'or take in account is the impact you have for your teams. SO YES its logical to count Tiltes IF you had a BIG impact in the victory. (and like com'on i'm not devaluating Haaland performance but you cant say that a tap-in or a penalty is an individual play)
8 Ballon Dors, 4 UCLs, 2 Copa Americas and The World Cup!
Lionel Andres Messi 🐐
yeah and everything’s surrounded by controversies
@@lvcrmamilAt the end of the day, he still won all of them.
Messi 🐐
More like 4 ballon dors😂
Goat
The world cup is a team effort but individual performance counts as well he showed without a doubt the greatest performance of the tournament focusing on play making
Messi deserved all his balloon d’ors and even more the greatest of all time anyone who thinks otherwise doesn’t know football. It’s only delusional Ronaldo fans that are clueless and love his six pack more than his footballing abilities.
I've watched Messi for years stats and words don't do him justice they don't show the things he does every game. Like; first touches, superhuman vision, the dribbling away from 4 players at once, creating passing lanes that don't exist, putting the perfect weight on the pass for his teammates. Although Leo has the best stats in football history
😂 delusion
@@CaniceJuniorJuninho oh a penaldo fan.
2019 is the most deserve award for Leo Messi ,definition of One man Army
Golden boot,IFFH playmaker award , most assists
Two trophies and Uefa champions league runner up with UEFA golden boot and most freekicks
As for 2021 He won his first ever international trophy in style , finishing up as both Top scorer and assist , no one had ever done that before
He is right ballon d’or is politics
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Yahh always against penaldo 😂
@@diptangshusarkar6652 no need to be an idiot
messi is the best football player ever
but this award is complete idiocy is it normal for him to receive this award 2 years in a row just because he won the world cup?
or was it normal for modric to win the award just because he was in real madrid when ronaldo deserved it?
Figo moving to madrid was more then controversey you should watch the video on it the barca fans went crazy
Rat*
Although i'm a Madridista by heart but as long as Messi is playing he always deserves the Ballon d'or! Anyone who watch football or have a basic knowledge in football will say Messi is the greatest player that ever lived. I've never seen anyone better than him, he now have 8 Ballon d'ors, 4 UCLs and the World Cup! He's the undisputed 🐐
The worst logic I've ever seen , about the Ballon d'or part.
No Madridista would ever say that🤣
Mugu man 😂 senseless human. I pity you calling yourself a madridista
@@5star1zthis guy is on gas or he's like 8 cuz what lil bro on 😂
Stop lying first then i'll hear you
I want 2024 award to go to Carvahal but im pretty sure he will be overlooked for Vini. Carvahal won almost everything for club and country and playing a crucial role for both
Messi deserved all of his Ballon d'or. If you don't see why, you're probably a hater or finding reasons for him not to win coz you ain't looking at it clearly. Thats just it. Messi adds the most value to any team he plays individually and that's why he becomes the best player in the world. Thats a fact
It is an award that is highly controversial because it does consider everything. It considers the players image/behavior and fair play, how many trophies they won with their team, and their individual statistics. You can find this information on the FIFA website. For the majority of the time, performances at an international level and trophies won internationally are always a priority, with world cup being number 1. There is always controversy even with these conditions and criteria because there is no consistency.
It considers the most popular player in a team that won the most trophies
@@otunlaisaac5666 Yea I think that’s true to a certain extent. Especially, with Barca and Madrid, but Messi and Ronaldo did spoil us with insane stats and performances.
Exactly. The qualifications isn't consistent.
@@otunlaisaac5666and politics. There was no reason to give it to Modric over CR7. If Ronaldo stayed at Madrid it would’ve been his.
Messi absolutely deserved it in 2022 for that world cup 💯🇦🇷🏆
Suarez should have won for his 13/14 season at Liverpool. 31 goals out of 33 games in the PL, missed five games and wasn’t even the penalty taker. Best in the world that season.
He didn’t rob anything, 2023 Messi played great and won many trophies. World Cup played a huge part just like how modric has a great performance in his World Cup 2018. But instead Messi played much better and carried his team. Halaand had great year but world cup is the greatest trophy of all time. Haaland as a player isn’t near Messi’s level, he’s just a great striker. There’s trophies for strikers
What many don't realise is that if the ballondor was solely based on individual performance Messi would still have at least 8 ballondor while CR7 would have 2 or 3. Whether you go by direct goal contribution or man of the match performances Messi still gets about 8 ballondor. The year modric won for example Messi had the best overall individual stat but finished 5th yet you don't see anyone crying over that
The balon dor is really praise for your play for your country because when you look at the top lists every year it’s just a bunch of inconsistencies like this year Niko being top 15 makes no sense when you look how he performed for his club but he’s there because of his euros performances but nobody on the planet would think he was top 15 last year
Figo moving to Real from Barça was like if Magic moved to Celtic. thankfully, gun is illegal in America. had it been the other way, it'd be a miracle he's alive. cause the hate he got from the fans was frightening
Players and coaches all around the world is the ones who's voting for this award every year
Preciate y'all dropping a long video . great vid as always keep going
Messi in Argentina - team effort
Ronaldo in RMA - solo monster
You guys are right, it is alot politics in that balon d'or shiit.
There's world class and then there's MESSI class which is better than any other player on the planet at times! 🐐
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Figo moved straight from Barca to Madrid, Ronaldo moved to Inter Milan before he signed to Madrid. As you've simply seen he won the Balon d'Or at Madrid, for what he did at Barca, that's tough for Barca fans.
As a Liverpool fan Erling haaland is definitely winning it this year
No Messi for scoring 1 goal in the Ohio beach
Great reaction fam , just a thing to mookie , it is called barca (with an "s" sound) not barka
Ronaldo went to a different league after Barcelona before Madrid bought him. Figo went from Barcelona straight to Madrid. That’s why it was so controversial
Welcome back guys
I believe they take the trophies into account based on your individual stats during the competitions in question. So yeah, your team might win those trophies, but how much did YOU as an individual player impact the results?
I don't think it's just the trophies themselves...
it's simple messi has the most trophies man of the match far more than others individual statistics messi wins the golden ball every year❤
Saying messi didn’t deserve the ballon dior is like saying LeBron doesn’t deserve MVP like be real with yourself that man should’ve won it every year if it was about the best individual player.
Btw. Messi played tonight, Mukiiiiiii should react😃😃👌
Inter Miami play tonight ?
@@dunsonhouse did Play 16 hours ago against Philadelphia 🙂
@@luka.m36 got you family
Ballon dor is corrupt, there are many players who deserved to win ballon dor, the likes of Iniesta,xavi Lewandowski, zlatan, di Maria, robben, ribery, sneigder,neymar the list is endless
Rodri wins it this year 💯💯
R9 didn't leave barcelona and went straight to Real Madrid, he went Italy first
The king of football of all times: Pelé!!!
In 2018 Messi was Europe's Top Scorer and Assister and yet they didn't even rank him TOP 4. People might disagree but Messi 100% deserved it in 2019, that Barça team was so shit and Messi carried them on his back to a league title.
My issue is the qualifications for winning the award year to year is inconsistent. One year it's because of numbers. Another year it's because of trophies or a good run in the World Cup. World Cup is the biggest award but it shouldn't have as much pull as it does for B'dor winner. It's supposed to be award given for having a great all around season. Not just one great run in a month long tournament.
Its nice to see so much buthurted Ronaldo&Messi fans cause of Modric Ballon Dor. I would add also Sneider who definetely deserved 2010!
If mookie says the ballon d’or is off individual statistics then messi should have won it every year as pep guardiola said, messi always had the best stats but he didn’t always win the bug trophies which led him to not winning it always😊
@@t_only1678 Exactly like in 2018 Messi was the best individual and his stats were better than everyone. Yet he placed fifth🤣 what a joke
So if sneijder, lewa, van dijk and Haaland were robbed that’s 4 putting Messi at 4 ballon d’ors…then Ronaldo snubbed Ribery but was robbed by modric that would put him at 5 ballon d’ors 🤷♂️
both messi and ronlado should have 5 .
messi : 2009 2010 2011 2012 2015
Ronlado : 2008 2014 2016 2017 2018
nor sneidjer, or van dijk or halan deserve the balon dor
@@mem5860They did wtf?
@@zhyar313 not they dont
Messi was better than Ronaldo in 2018 so how was Ronaldo robbed? Plus if people think VVD, Haaland and Sneijder were robbed they genuinely don't watch football. Not one of them deserved it more than Messi, the only debatable one is Lewa in 2020, baring that Messi deserved it every time. Ribery didn't deserve it over Ronaldo either, lets not start lying, these are just opinions each players fanboys ran with in order to diminish the others achievements.
Lewandowski is a joke compared to Messi. No one could ever dispute Messis' award when on the other side there is this guy.
The 2013 version of cristiano Ronaldo was one of the greatest in the history of football. Everyone who watched Ronaldo that year knew that he was the complete version of a footballer/athlete. You need to check the 2013 version of cristiano Ronaldo.
You probably meant 2012
To be fair Ribery deserved that year and I say this as a Ronaldo fan
Barcelona almost went bankrupt because they bought the Ballon d'or for messi.
and madrid bought the ballon d'or for modric because ronaldo had moved to juventus in 2018. don't forget, ronaldo moved to juventus: 10 or 11 July 2018 and modric won the ballon d'or: 3 or 4 december 2018.
Maybe madrid wants to have players with the Ballon d'or as their ego/prestige/dignity
Hahaha😂😂😂
If i may say so, madrid once bought it for ronaldo too.
Fabio cannavaro is one of the greatest defenders in history
Favoritism.
About this rigging Messi balon the oro's, still 70%of people who watch football wouldn't agree... And besides the voting people are the biggest experts ex players, coaches who vote. Not some random people who don't even watch football and understands it...those who ACTULLY watched allmost all games in last 25 years don't think any of the ballon the oro was not deserved by Messi
99 percent the one percent are CR7 fans that all think the same
@@zeeo3147 and 80%of them are kids 12 years and down
@@luka.m36what?😂
Ronaldo outdid Messi and Ribery stats combined that year(in 2013). It is an individual award, why do trophies matter over performances?
Because did you statpad against low level teams or did you actually win something?
@@KAT-xi3ol but if you say that, then why did Messi win in 2010 over Sneijder who won the UCL, Serie A and Coppa Italia(and reached the final in the World Cup while Messi had his worst World Cup run ever)?
Nah Messi is just better , if you watch him play he is just the best , Messi is more than just stats snd trophies , He is magic and beauty of Football too
facts
Rules change for Messi 😂haha
"Messi just stepped on the pitch, someone go hand him a balon d'or right now"
If you don't get it forget about it
😂😂😂
lol quoting the pdf file?
91 yeah!
Lewandowski was robbed at least once, everyone knows this.
Dude ronaldo madrid fan you said that messi didn't deserve it in 2023 because he wasn't the best player individualy then why he ranked 5 in 2018 when he was the top goals scorer
Virgil really deserved it till this day i hate them for this
Virgil said Messi deserved it nobody was better than Leo in 2019 I can tell you that for a fact
@@zeeo3147 Virgil what a humble man
@@lvcrmamil He’s good person and don’t get me wrong there’s nothing more he could’ve done. But faced one of the greatest versions of Messi who reached new heights in 2019. Virgil always referred to Messi as the goat and commented on his insta when he won the wc
@@zeeo3147 cuz he’s good guy and respectful
Yeah when VVD didn't win it that year that's really when the B'dor started to become less meaningful and more political.
VIni jr Deserves Balon d'Or
Barcelona was always a second-tier team compared to Real Madrid, but with Messi it achieved that Dream Team status.
As if Cruyff and Ronaldinho didn't exist before 2009 😭
La liga is more of an offensive league historically. Messi should have never stayed at Barcelona that long for me. He realized that and took advantage. kaka was playing in the toughest league at the time while cr7 trained harder. Barcelona could have won the same amount of trophies without Messi. Man U and Milan declined
Ronaldo should have 6 and Messi 6 or max 7. Would be fair end to their dominance.
Who should've won it
2003 Henry
2010 Iniesta
2013 Ribery
2019 Van Dijk
2021 Lewandowski
2023 Haaland
lol no
After 30:00 ,they just kept giving the ballon dor to messi ,even tho lewasdowski and Holland deserve it😂😂😂
They were scared Ronaldo would get more balon dors than Messi so they gave it to modric thinking Ronaldo and Messi were done. They just wanted to break the dominance between Ronaldo and Messi. Toni kroos rated above modric in that real Madrid team for that 2018 year 👍🏼
Yep and they weren’t shy to give Messi more even tho Van Djik was more deserving than Modric ever was.
The Ballon d'Or being the best player in the world award, Haaland winning it would be the worst thing for him, his a phenomenal striker, terrible player. The guy loses about 63% of the balls he get deep. Dude played 4 finals and 3 semi finals that year and failed to score or assist in any. When it matters most, Haaland disappears. He is a finisher, not a player
does he just watch the football then? last i checked if you take a touch of the ball in the game you are a PLAYER.
The real number of ballon d'ors messi and ronaldo deservered imo is :
Messi : 6 (robbed iniesta (or sneijder), lewandowski, and arguably van dijk)
Ronaldo : 5 (robbed ribery but modric robbed him)
What's y'all number ?
Absolute nonsense no way Messi robbed Schneider, for a fact in 2010 Schneider had a season comparable to Nedved but in a Jose team. Iniesta is absolutely golden but nowhere near Messi 2010. Lewa and Van djik are not even in the convo. You wouldn’t even mention Lewa in the same breath as R9 or Van Basten. Van Djik is a discount Vidic. As for Ribery, stop the 🧢. He couldn’t dust off CR7’s boot. This must be a joke. I’m guessing you’re American
The fact that you can't even make your mind on to who he robbed btw Iniesta and Sneijder just shows you only have problem with Messi winning - not that he didn't deserve it.
Sneijder didn’t even made the top 3, how tf you guys want him to win baffles me😂
Lewandowski 2020 💯
Lewandowski 2021 Nope
Di Maria did more than Messi for argentina
they gave it to him sometimes, didn't say nobody's name🤐🤐🤐
Please react to johan cruyff
He's a legend you should know
R9 didn't go straight from barcelona to real madrid. he went first to inter milan then to madrid.
But he once played in barcelona só stop giving excuses 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Messi deserved all of his Ballon d'ors! He's the best player ever I've ever seen. Ronaldo is a remarkable specimen of a human being; Messi looks like the boy next door and performs like a god! 🐐
Your funny 😂
Not 2010,2019 and 2021
exactly
@@5star1zYou’re a Ronaldo fan 🤣🤣He was the best those years and by a distance keep crying like your idol
@@5star1zRonaldo fan 😂😂 Messi was the best those years and by a distance keep crying like your idol
The video creator is truly a penaldo fanboy
The Balon d'or is a glorified popularity award.
The Balon D'or is solely on how much of an impact you have on the field and how big of a footprint you leave in that specific year. Numbers do that, but trophies are the main goal for everyone playing football. Any player can win a cup with their team but how the specific player performed on the way to the finals and the whole season determines if they are good enough to win the Balon D'or. Some controversial decisions can be made, but those decisions are only seen by people who watch highlights of these people and not their whole year's performances. Saying it's politics when it comes to Messi's Balon D'or wins or Ronaldo's wins is basically just you saying any player could've done what they did. And that is definitely wrong.
There are not just goals, assists and trophies that matter in balon the oro... There are dribles, playmaking,passes completed,Long passes, tacles,clearences, and everything you can measured a Player in this posicion he playes... Messi every year he plays, he is the Best in ,6 or 7 of those things... That's why Messi doesn't need so much goals, becose he makes 5 other things the Best ..Messi without a goal or assists has a better Match rating then Cristiano with a goal and assists... Overall year Rating is considered in the balon the oro tooo, and if you Look overall year Ratings of Players since 2008, Messi was the Best 16 Times, vs Cristiano Just 1time... Goals are not everything guys👌
Perfectly said although Messi also has the best goal to game ratio
I'm one who believes Robert deserved it more than Messi that year
Definitely
Same bro.
@@lunarlxrd4716 cope with it
He deserved it in 2020 not 2021 are you lot ok Messi was by far better
@@zeeo3147 nope he deserved both years you're delusional
The guy doing this video is a MESSI fan, i knew the second he did not let the people know exactly what haaland had accomplished in that year, it still puts Messi fans into humongous SHAME 😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😹😭
even if he did messi still wins lol
Messi didnt deserve some of those dor but we know they love messi and its just politics..
The Balon D'or is French, for "this award is a big joke."
Messi is the greatest player that ever lived! 🐐
Figo was thrown a pig head at him by Barcelona fans
Mookie do you not understand Messi was the best player at the wc and performed to a ridiculous standard. Even at 35 he led Argentina to that victory and had one of the best campaigns. CR7 has never dragged Portugal to a wc final let alone win it whilst being the best player. Messi did that twice and one once he also has stats to back it up the winners celebrate and losers complain 🐐
Everybody knows the journalist baby Messi all the time, how can 4 out of 8 Balon d’or be speculative? That’s just day light robbery
Four of messi's ballon d'ors all have scandals
What did Messi do to the guy who made the video?
I thought ya was cooking something different after 100k and after ya gone for long lol
We is family just give us sometime ✊🏽
Mooky is allowing the propaganda to turn to his reality disrespecting the goat is outrageous with non factual statements. You gotta up your ball knowledge as this channel grows
Messi Great