How is this even possible? $150 Titanium Hi-Beat with 72 hr. power reserve. Boderry Urban Review
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- Опубліковано 12 чер 2020
- Boderry was kind enough to give me two watches to review. This is the second one, which houses an insane Chinese movement inside. Check it out on their website:
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3:20 I am not sure how difficult it was to do the macro shot, in slow motion, with the seconds counting graphic on the side, but that looked professionally done. Good job.
I recently switched to using Davinci Resolve for editing, it's a big step up from my previous software, still getting the hang of it, but it really opens up a lot of possibilities.
@@JusttheWatch Great initiative !
@@JusttheWatch
Talking about smoothness of the movement, there's also a downsize for it: The more it ticks the more it wears.
@@ronet5it's A skeleTony! 😂
I just bought one based entirely on this review. I really like your style. Most unpretentious watch guy I've ever seen.
Thanks man!
do you like it so far, im thinking of buying one would love some feedback?
@@sinantuna2859 It's ok. To be honest, it looks better in photos than in person. The skeletonized movement is dark and not very visible, and it's hard to discern much animation without looking closely. The style is a bit discordant, with skeleton watches being more suited to dressy occasions and this one being a sporty watch. My wife much prefers the look of a normal non-skeleton watch on me when I wear casual clothes. She says the skeleton look doesn't match casual clothes at all, and the sporty bezel doesn't match dressy clothes. She's smarter than I am at times as I've come to agree with her. I'm glad I learned this lesson with a cheap watch instead of wasting a lot of money. It's my first titanium watch, and I find I really like the feeling of that metal on my wrist. It was a cheap experiment and I learned some things but I don't wear it much now that I own it and I wouldn't buy it again if I lost it. If you're considering this, I would also take a look at the new line of Seagull 2020 skeletons which I also bought and prefer.
@@RegNatarajan To each his/her own, but I disagree with your wife's sentiment. Skeletonized watches were super high-end and thus are often worn around formal occasions. That may be the association of skeletonize watch with dressy clothes. True dressy watches are minimalist with understated designs. I'd argue that skeletonize watches are more casual because it's not so much about looking good, but more about looking at the inner workings and appreciating the technical aspects of the craftsmen's work. I don't see this design being any bit dressy. Anyway, that's just my 2 cents. You do you.
@@RegNatarajan what was the prize ?
There's only one thing about this watch that I would ding it on... the dial is so busy and the hands are so, "skeletonized" that I cannot tell what time it is.
The hangzhou movements tend to be surprisingly well made. They do make an eta clone, but it’s also chronometer certified too. If it’s a Chinese movement, Hangzhou is one of the good ones.
Love seeing your channel finally start to get the attention it deserves
My dad gave me a skeletonized Armitron watch that he has had for ten years recently, it has a Chinese movement with hacking and hand-winding which is still running great to this day. I doubt he paid more than $100 for it and for more than ten years of service I'd say it has worked out. What I mean to say is don't judge a book by its cover. This watch needs some styling help but has the bones to make a good one. Nice review.
Nefarion China made isn’t inherently bad at one time there products was the best in the world it’s there QA game that desperately needs improvement I’m this century.
Another review well done! Great camera work and clarity. Thorough and well thought out. Glad I found this channel.
Appreciate it!
It does say something about the margins on luxury watches.
Magazine ads and sponsoring tennis events and Formula 1 is expensive! :)
well yes and no, obviously the margins there are high but you're also definitely not getting even a similar product.
Great production value- loved the moving macro shots!
Thanks for such informative and helpful videos! I'm building out my budget watch collection and really value your guidance!
Would it be possible to have a followup reviews in a couple of weeks/months, to see how it holds up? Because this seems too good to be true !
Probably won't be able to do a full video review as I don't have the time, but I'll try to remember to put some updates on Instagram!
Exactly
My feeling is that because the main spring is so big (72hrs) that the accuracy will change hugely depending on how fully coiled the spring is. Can you investigate changes in accuracy, it's a big ask, sorry
@@cosmalas7742 I didn't drill down into how the accuracy changes due to the tension in the spring, but on average it was running about+11 seconds a day.
I was just wondering because most watches have a 40 hrs power reserve, I was under the impression that these more expensive watches with 70 hrs employ some clever tech solution to keep the tension constant.
Great review. Especially how you show 6 vs 8 beats per second.
Not usually a fan of skeleton watches, but you hit the nail on the head with all the pros and cons. Overall, it's a pretty great watch for the price. Great review.
wow, you really have been stepping up your video editing skills! Take my like
Great review as always Dave! This watch actually reminds me of the Richard Mille RM028 in a good way.
I have had a Chinese pocket watch with skeleton movement purchased from Walmart for 15 years. It is still working today and keeping good time.
Thanks for the review, Dave. I applaude the initiative that Boderry has taken in bringing an affordable, high-spec skeleton watch to the mass market. However, this seems to be more of a ‘working copy’ than a ‘final submission’ to me. Apologies for the composition metaphor ... I am an English teacher 😁. Good effort, but just a little more tweaking required (ahem).
As an aside (oh brother!), I am really enjoying how your channel is unfolding. End-of-academic-year report card: While maintaining your much-appreciated, unassuming manner, you are successfully broadening your focus of reviews. Your branding is very catchy (I just love the logo) and you are putting that nifty new camera to very good use. It is now my most-favourite watch channel by far.
Cheers, Dave! [Speaker smiles, nods and raises his glass].
Thanks, prof!
Had one of these for 5 months now (steel case with red accents), threw it on a Nato and it's been my introduction to automatic watches, and that power reserve is quite impressive, it's also holding up well even with my fairly physically active job, it doesn't keep the *best* time but it looks so cool it's entirely forgiven.
I'll keep an eye on Boderry in the future, though I'm also digging into Orient and Sugess watches for more cool affordable mechanical watches
Great detailed explanation and video segment on the beat rate, Dave! So far I haven't seen any watch reviewer do this! You have outdone yourself here! 😊👍
Thanks! Had fun making that part.
@@JusttheWatch cool!👍
You are right, Cartoonist. I have never seen other watch reviewers actually slow down the watch seconds motion for the viewers to enjoy. I do hope other reviwer include this feature in all their reviews in the future.
What this reviewer has done has made this teview so professional, yet very accessible to all the viwers. Thank you
Thanks for bringing this watch to our attention. Really nice watch! I will say I slightly disagree about the bezel. The bezel markers are at 2.5 sec increments. I think that adds to an aesthetically balanced appearance. Thanks as always for your high quality videos. It’s been a pleasure watching your channel evolve into a really professional, premiere watch review channel.
Thanks!
It caught my attention in Alibaba then I came to check if any reviews here in YT , and here you are reviewing the same color I picked ! Very useful . Thanks !
Great angles, great review. I'm now a fan my friend.
Pro tip: if you can wait until August for shipping.....the leather strap versions are on sale for $115 on Amazon right now.
With the Titanium case or SS?
That's a good tip. I knew they sold through Alixpress, but didn't realize Amazon carried them too!
I believe the stainless steel version is $115 on Amazon. The titanium ones are $149. It's very tricky to tell since they look similar in the photos.
Neat watch. Seems like lots of watch for the money.
until it starts running like crap s few months down the line, or weeks
The only other place I've seen that movement is in a microbrand called Waldhoff, and I think they were selling at around the $400 price point.
Delusion In The Brain pretty sure that’s not how it works. The movement is pretty good compared to a lot of Japanese movements.
Brilliant watch for the price with a massive power reserve, how have they pulled this off.Thanks for sharing.
Man, that watch is beautiful. Thanks for the heads up
Very nice moving shots of the watch. Nice editing.
The watch looks really cool and sharp and u r one of the best guy who are making such a great videos on watches. Keep it up...
Super rad watch I think you nailed the look with the striped nato strap! I feel like this is ganna be one of my wild card purchases
I just got this watch today(ordered a few weeks ago), and truly impressed. Got the blue hands/accents with the olive drab distressed leather strap. Wouldn't have known about this without you! Early impression... A lot of watch for the money.
Glad to hear you like it!
Was completely new to watches 3 years ago, bought a SARB033 solely off a throwaway comment from you, that it was the best watch out there (in a Seiko 5 review video.) I love this watch and bought a few more in the years since 😅💯💯💯salute
This is interesting; maybe an early indication of the Chinese developing their own watch 'style' rather than cheap copies of Japanese and European models.
China already has a booming watch industry with a lot of high end Chinese brands
Nope, it's a copy as well. Google Roger Dubuis Excalibur and there you have it.
@@SinnerAndSaint So bad... with that excellent movement I was expecting not just an homage, anyway it's the movement what I find more interesting.
Great review my friend :) I really like the look of this and would love to get one in to review on my channel. I agree the legibility is really a problem here. All they had to do was put in solid hands of a contrasting colour. I am going to take a look at the watches though. Thanks for another great video. Best. MJ
Great video. Thanks Dave. 😊
Very cool watch ! At first glance i thought it was electronic ! Great review 👍 cheers!
Really want to get one of these in, should have the quartz you reviewed in the next couple of days...couldn't resist that caseback!
Awesome watch for the price. Great review Dave
Have one & love it! What a deal. Titanium case, sapphire front & back, 72 hr + power reserve, automatic winding when worn, spin the stem to hand wind & watch the mainspring coil up (charging it) 8 beats per second top // for $150 west USA 2020 dollars //
Macro slomo is amazing, thanks for the great video !
Thanks man!
Hangzhou are a pretty impressive movement manufacturer - eager to prove its movements work well and can deliver interesting complications/technical specifications.
Thanks for the review. Apparently a sale starts on 15th and lots of colour options which imo improve legibility.
First review of yours I didn't like ...you kept changing to your next thought by saying "yeah so..." over and over. It interfered with the watch review and was aggravating but....this review and this watch..fantastic and great to see the evolution. Get your confidence up and boom! You did a super job with this time piece and although I'm not a big skeletonized watch guy...you made me love this watch. Bravo sir.
This is such an interesting watch but I am not sure about the legibility and the bezel...but still really cool. Great review Dave 😊👍
Yeah, skeletonised watches really do compromise on legibility. It's more of a showpiece of the mechanism.
Excellent review of a really nice watch. I'll be buying the watch (yellow hands) and be back for more honest reviews.
I’ll admit I’m a little bit snobby when it comes to watches. But this is very well executed. I don’t usually like bezels with that design, but it works with this watch. A 72 hour power reserve is very impressive and it’s great to watch is crank up through the dial. For the price this would be a steal.
Love this, definitely a must have.
An interesting watch indeed. I think Chinese watch is slowly getting their own style of watch and with their superior production power, they can cut a lot of cost easily.
Great review 👍👊🏿
For anyone interested in the Hangzhou 7500 movement, but not necessarily the Boderry case, Earnshaw has this in their Baron and Clarke models. The Baron is a more traditional and the Clarke is a Royal Oak homage. As with most Earnshaw, they are massively overpriced, but they are currently half off for about 250 USD each. They are having a BOGO father's day sale, so that brings them down to 125 each, which is a great value then.
Looks like a bargain. Could do with white hands to improve legibility, otherwise excellent for the money. Cheers Dave 👍🏻
Good looking watch for the price and great review. 👍🍻
I have it, is very nice watch, and so exactly on time, so happy to have it
Really like the look of it but it does have its drawbacks. Nice video!😄
Looks good, amazing value for sure! Thanks for the review!
The case shape is basically a copy of a Rolex Explorer II
No it's not
Thanks for the review, you are a great content creator. This is on my wishlist. Boderry even mentioned your review to say all new Urbans will be version 2.0 to address your criticisms. Did they ever reach out to to say what exactly they changed?
Reply from Boderry:
Hello, the optimization of Urban Titanium 2.0 is as follows:
1. The sharp edge of the case is further polished
2. Enhanced luminous brightness
Thanks
Regards
Thanks! 😊
Super cool watch! Hope to one day be able to review it on my channel! Keep it up brother!!
Got mine not only is it everything that said it would be I put it on the time grapher it reads +2 zero beat error and well into the 300 amplitude amazing.
Mines been keeping pretty good time as well! Kind of crazy for something with that large of a power reserve.
Now that's what I call an interesting watch!
You know, to add to my last message. I just took a look at the website and this watch with the coloured contrasting hands like the blue, yellow or red is much better in my opinion. The bright colours are much easier to read on the dial. I like it. I like the red and I think it would look really sharp with a red rubber strap :)
Beer and Watches - I agree. I’m going to order the red one. Kinda ‘pops’. Love your idea about the rubber strap btw.
Can't help but agree just ordered the Red version and eyeing up a couple different straps to pair with it
wow.... thats a gorgeous watch
Something i dont like about this watch is sharp edges. Thanks for the information Dave 👍
The name sucks. Boderry. They need to go back to the drawing board with that one...
Rolux ?
It might be the English “translation “ of a Chinese word or they wanted something European sounding
Sounds like some kind of rash associated with a venerial dissease
Sounds like a mix of Bulgari and Burberry :)
@@SGM805 xelor
Well done, informative video. Personally I do not mind the illegible hands, the skeletonized dial and case back window allows makes me want to just stare into the watch from an engineering standpoint. I just ordered one from the website, I have no idea when it should arrive but I’m looking forward to it.
Hey, it's been 4 weeks, was it worth buying it? I'm really thinking of buying this watch but the yellow one, for easyr visibility.
Make it more Damasko/ Sinn style with 200m wr/date/ screwdown crown/good lume it’d be the perfect watch for me! Good review.
If skeletons are your thing this is a great option for the money. I'm looking at the non skeleton version of this - I really like their 'different' look.
Great review! Woulda been just perfect with a Glycine Airman'ish bezel instead.
Great video again Dave.
The slo-mo was great, I like the detail you discuss, and your format is great too. Keep up the good work. I too would be interested to hear how it holds up and about the accuracy....thanks again.
I forgot to mention the accuracy, so far it's running about +11 seconds a day. I'll try to do a follow up on how it holds up after a few months, probably in an Instagram post.
Great video, and an interesting watch! But I don't think anyone calls 28,800bph "hi-beat" anymore. 8 ticks/sec is pretty pedestrian nowadays. Most watch geeks will say that true hi-beat movements vibrate at 36,000bph, or 10 ticks/sec. Cheers!
Yeah, you're totally right. I'm sort of using it more colloquially than technically, since the channel focuses on affordable watches, the overwhelming majority of what I review are movements that run at 6 beats per a second. So in that category, 8 beats is a little bit of a novelty, so I call it hi-beat (relative to what you'd usually find)
Very impressive! Not a big fan of skeleton watches, but they have a normal dial one too.
50m WR is kind of a shame though
Look at that spring at the back 😮
Great review of an interesting watch. Can you let me know what watch you are wearing in the video when you are on camera talking?
It's the Yema Navygraf. I'm working on a review of it now that should be out later this month. Sneak peak, I really, really like it.
Impressive for the added ‘extras’
Nice review and very impressive watch for the price. It is definitely not for me because I find it ugly but it's still a high value.
The sharp edges are cool.
The bezel is the only thing I think ruins its, but with that said I am seriously considering getting one.
Gracias. Great specs but i will wait for better design
not a huge fan of the watch but I'd love to get my hands on that movement and put something together with it.
For that price this watch is super cool,i like it.
Cool watch. But up close you can definitely see some finishing (or lack there of) issues. But for what you get for $150 it's still a good value. I would be curious about how long it runs though and if servicing it would be worth the time and money.
Two videos in a morning has to be the new norm, you have now set a president!
Falling a little behind and trying to catch up. Once a week is more my pace...
viperkil13 - Precedent.
I have one of these. Its still going after almost 3 years.
Nice, but would have preferred the hands to be more legible. Great review as always!
There are Red and Gold/yellow version available, at least on Amazon, Picked up the red version myself to be the first of my "collection"
This is very appealing to me, despite the good points you made about the bezel and the less than refined finish. My biggest problem with it, as others have mentioned, is legibility. I love skeletonized watches and it has long baffled me that their makers don't make a point of choosing hands with maximum contrast. Still, the price is great and maybe some of the alternative hands/crown pairs you mentioned will ameliorate the legibility issue.
You don’t mention whether there is any AR coating. By the look of it under your lights, there isn't. Correct?
Truly epic amounts of shellac on those pallet stones.
The eye is attracted to yellow first before anything else, so that's what I plumed for. One disadvantage is the yellow text is a bit gaudy but its a trade off between a Skeletal watch and the viability of the hands.
And really, sometimes being *slightly* gaudy is fun and makes it stand out more, I went for that bright red version myself
@@UNSCPILOT well done. Enjoying something different that you personally like is what makes watch collecting fun
Interesting piece, shame too little finishing went into these (I would like to see this at 450$ with better finishing), and I don’t like the Roger Dubuis homage style either. I’d love to see this in a more toned down design, with better brushing, no skeleton dial and better lume. Thank you for the review, keep up the awesome work!
Check out the Waldhoff Capital, it's a nicely finished watch by microbrand that uses this same movement at around $400.
I wonder if one could put a dial in the watch to make it easier to read or do they have a model with the same movement and a dial similar to a dive watch?
They have a GMT with at least 10atm of water resistance , for the money it's a great looking watch which I would love to have as a beater when I travel to those special places you need to leave your Rolex Batman at home HINT HINT Thanks for the video all the best.
Movement aside. This case is a winner!
AUTOMATIC•21 JEWELS 72H POWER RESERVE
That's why I like sterile dials.
Yeah, I don't get why manufacturers feel the need to add this. The dials with "tourbillon" really state the bleeding obvious though...
I was looking at this same watch that's crazy , some how I was looking for another watch and saw this one glad you did a review funny how things happen ,I would be concerned about how long it will hold up with it being a high beat at that price
Yeah, that's my main concern too. I guess we'll see...
@@JusttheWatch Hi there! How is the shape of the watch so far? Still running okay? MANY THANKS!
What are the accuracy expectations for that movement? Great video, nicely done.
I've been getting about +11 seconds a day
Thanks!! Not bad! The site also had some where the hands appear more discernible. Great review!
Quartz also sweep but it uses too much battery so they made them tick. Take Mechaquartz is an example of a quartz that sweeps on the chrono
IF only the outer numbers were 1-12 for timezones I'd love it. Was going to get it until the fixed bezel was mentioned
I have a bulova that sweeps and is quartz, the accutron 262khz. It's battery, which died over 1.5 years, was the same as my car remote and garage opener! The cr2010 which is the size of a dime!
Skeleton watches are not my cup of tea. But the technical specs are impressing. Well, the Hamilton Khaki Field has a PR of 80 hours at the cost of a higher
beat rate though.
Other than the useless outer ring marks... the real issue that I have with this is that it needs more visible hands... to actually be usable at a glance. Any skeleton watch is going to be rather busy so... prominent hands are a must.
It has a version with red tipped hands and highlights, that's the version I opted for and ordered, It's also got a version with yellow/gold hands and detailing that doesn't look too bad, IMO
Love this watch, I own one... my only problem is the legibility.... Not the easiest watch to look down and insta know yup.. it's time to go.
Very interesting watch for a skeleton watch only concern the regulator is covered so trying to adjust the time could prove difficult or impossible pity we didn't get it on the time Grapher
I was looking for a skeletonized at around this pricetag, this looks too good to be true. You got a promocode, referral or anything?
Not for this one! But Alixpress is having their Summer sale now, might be some discounts from that.
Very nice Roger Dubuis watch
That movement looks good for the price. Will be interested to know how well it keeps time though! That movement in a better designed watch could be a winner.
So far it's running at about +11 seconds a day.
@@JusttheWatch That's pretty good. Thanks.
Check this one out.ua-cam.com/video/n0STO0aX3-w/v-deo.html