Klipsch R-51PM vs Edifier S3000Pro || Sound & Frequency Response Comparison
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- Опубліковано 30 лип 2024
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-Frequency measurements done in semi treated room using UMIK-1 microphone
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Any chance you can get your hands on Kef ls50? I think s3000 could be good competitor with better bass extension. Just need some room treatment to fix that dip from 100-200hz.
We will see about KEF, there is so much hype around LS50W that I am worried some egos would be broken in result, so maybe I will leave them hanging
@@DSAUDIOreview haha, just provide the sound demo and frequency response without commentary. The comments section will be quite entertaining with all the Kef fanboys trying to defend their expensive purchases haha.
It also can attract more viewers. you have the best speaker channel on UA-cam, the sound demo and frequency response is much more valuable than any audiophile reviewers opinion.
I can never tell which speaker I like better in your comparisons since I am listening to them through a Kloss Model 88. I will say, love the music you play!
请问录音环境能否在加强一下，比如添加些吸音棉，用来减少墙面音的反射干扰
S3000 sounds more expensive honestly. Its an all rounder. Solid bass with clear details. Klipsch is more on highs which is fatiguing to listen. Edifier wins here. Solid sound!
Damn, the Edifier S300Pro seems to sound better than the reference sound track. I like both speakers and I'm considering both for the next upgrade to my R1700BT. Awesome channel !!
May I ask you, who is the Akohai? Where can I play those songs? I cannot find him in Deezer. Thank you.
For a similar price range, can you compare the 3000pro with The Sixes and airpulse A100?
I have the klipsch r51pm and they sound awesome, they give you the option to add a subwoofer. The edifier doesn’t have a sub out option, however it seems to handle the low frequencies just fine by themselves.
I’m deciding if buy the R-51pm or the Edifier s2000mkiii , what do you say about it?
@@andrewix93 the Klipsch are the better option honestly speaking. The sound quality is awesome.
@@peacefulprotester3274 thank you very much
@@peacefulprotester3274 S3000Pro is just better.
I have the Edifier s3000 Pro and I think they're better :D
Hi DS!
What speakers do you own at the moment?
Please edifier s360 and s350. Thanks
Wchich one would you suggest for death metal music? SwansM200MKIII+, Edifier S2000MKIII, Tascam VL-A8 or that Klipsch R-51PM??
Listening it with ier-m7 + ifi hipdac without any colouring, I felt like klipsch performs better in term of sound staging 😍😍😍
Wow. That’s really surprising, as I’ve never heard a Klipsch that soundstages well. Not that they sound bad, but the horn is so directional compared to a waveguide. 👍🏻
How does the Klipsch R-51 PM compare to the Edifier S1000MK II?
I amazed with clarity treble from Klipsch @ first song ❤️
It appears that your room doesn't respond well between 100Hz and 200 Hz.
What would you suggest:
(Edifier s2000mkiii )
Or
(klipsch R51pm + klipsch r120 12” sub )
Main use will be music listening with some movies here and there. Planning on hooking this to tv in living room for now and when budget allows later move this system to a small room with computer and buy a 5.1 for the living room to go with tv.
I kind of like both - edifier for the overall sound + bass , but will the klipsch give more refined mids and highs and sub can solve the bass issue?
dude! I have EXACTLY the same dilemma... s2000mkiii vs R51pm+r100 sub... what do you think about it 7 months later? I’d really appreciate your comments.
@@andrewix93
Hi
I listened to the edifier, they sounded more bright than the klipsch, thay had more boosted top end and bass.
But klipsch had far better vocals and mids so i bought klipsch and also bought a small 10” sony sub on discount.
Only thing i miss about edifier is the tone control , that allows you to turn up down treble and bass, (physical knobs)
Also klisch are light weight than edifier, edifier are almost double if not triple the weight.
@@sunnykhela88 Nice. Thank you VERY much for the answer. Helps me a lot. Greetings
They both sound great, and very hard to differentiate between them - this is a testament to the Klipsch R-51PM because it is only a quarter of the price of the Edifier S3000 Pro, and yet it sounds as good. Incredible. Still, I had to pick one and in the end I picked the Edifier S3000Pro. Can't wait for it to arrive.
Fillally! i find out... thx DS!!
I'm not an expert, but isnt that kinda obvious that 800$ speakers sounds better than 200$ speakers. Another detail: klpisch due to the horn sound better at 3m away, i don't know where you placed the mic, but to me seems a bit to close to the speakers.
The Sixes vs S3000pro would be an interesting comparison.
@@Bobboberson1234 s
@@Bobboberson1234
Similar price, similar quality.
@@Bobboberson1234 I don't understand your point. The 600's are not in the conversation and they're not active speakers.
@@ghawk78 literally there are active speakers 'the sixes' by klipsch.
@@Velvet_Drop That was my point.
Hi guys, U got the best idea about HiFi testing on planet ! Speaking about sound is to subjective and pointless. If I may suggest something, please change presentation order: 1. Original track 2. First set. 3. Original track. 4. Second set. 5. First set. I think it would be the best way to hear the difference between original tracks and both sets. Keep up the good work and switch on the support channel option !
Добрый день ! Подскажите пожалуйста, если в колонках есть небольшие фоновые помехи это нормально? Подключены к компьютеру, когда звук убран в ноль но колонки издают тихие помехи, посвистывают так сказать, есть способ лечить это? Драйвера обновлены. Если кто то сталкивался с данной проблемой опишите пожалуйста как вы это решили. Может программы какие есть или в настройках что то изменить можно, за любой совет буду весьма признателен, спасибо !
Если активные колонки или усилитель не новый могут высохнуть электролитические конденсаторы, их можно заменить.
The Sixes vs S3000pro пожалуйста!!!!
The Sixes vs S3000PRO plz
Would 4 of the Klipsch be ok in a 5.1 setup for games and movies?
No this specific klipsch is a powered monitor meaning you cannot use it in 5.1 you must buy the passive version klipsch rp150m or klipsch r51m instead and connect to 5.1 av receiver.
I am looking to get some speakers and stumbled upon your page researching. Love everything you’ve done to put these reviews out there. Great work!. I think I have narrowed my search down to Klipsch 51pm and Edifier S2000 MKIII. It seems like everyone mostly agrees the S3000 won here, but does anyone have any thoughts between the 51pm and S2000MKIII??
I am down to these two as well and can't decide.
Looking Forward what about Klipsch The Fives?
@@edmondsamuel51 So, What did you endup with?
Amazing sound the edifier woww a lot of separation
Are these self powered or do you need an amp
I bought the audiophile HD6 and once unboxed they didn't turn on for twenty minutes. Strangest thing, they after twenty minutes without my touching anything, just turned on! Then they started working but I sent them back afraid the amp was bad. However while I had them they sounded great, looked great and were substantially well built and heavy. The sound was sweet and smooth but seemed lacking in the bass and midrange punch. I've read others describe this same sense about them, that they seem muted some how but sounded very nice. I would describe them as very good computer speakers and nothing more. Scared off the brand I decided to purchase Edifier S3000pro's. They are taller, about the same weight, very well built, gorgeous {so are the HD6's} and once hooked up simply blew me away. I am not one to rave about much of anything but I am an audiophile person and have some very expensive Von Schweikert VR7 in my listening room and recognize HIFI when I hear it. The S3000pro are exactly that. These are not computer speakers, they are very high quality bookshelf speakers that sound very very nice, and a bit more forward then the HD6 which is very much to my liking. They do not seem bright though and that is important to understand about there forwardness. These speakers are not fatiguing at all. They also have much more tech in them then the HD6 for an extra hundred dollars you get balanced inputs and all the dsp modes. And wow they can play loud! Much louder, if you like that. When playing the HD6 loud all the sound stayed in the Den, with these the sound is all over the house. They aren't even broken in yet, that will take a few weeks but so far I am really thrilled. I paid the expedited shipping they offer and the speakers shipped the next day and were here in 2. My only complaint is that the left cabinet had a very small scratch on the wood grain and a chip in the wood that yo can feel with you finger, and one power cord, the toslink cable and the rca cable bags were already opened!!!!! I think these were demoed by someone and they resold to me. I am pretty disturbed by that and I will calling Edifier today about it. I only received these last night. I hear they have good customer service, I am about to find out. I think they should offer to send me a new left channel. We will see if they do without mentioning it. I will update later today. Well that is all for now. Keith
An update-AFter a few weeks of wondering why edifier did not get back to me about the scratch on the speaker and open cable wires etc I fianlly got a call from the main guy in support there and he said it was an accident that he was not informed sooner and apologized. He said the speakers sent to me likely came from an amazon warehouse and were likely also a return unit that is not supposed to be sent back out before going back to edifier but if amazon was the sender then likely that quality control step was skipped. In short he immediately sent a return label for the speakers and saent a new pair to me at a 25% discount as well. Once this guy got involved *real* customer service began. As far as the new pair-they are exquisite in appearence and sound exceptional. I am very happy for such high quality bookshelf speakers. The dsp modes are fun but mostly I play on the natural one. Cheers,
Oh and one more thing I learned, Audioholics reviewed Edifier and Gene said they were a Canadian company. Edifier locally is out of Texas but is a Canadian company however I was sad to learn the speakers are made in China.
@@MrKeithcl What?! A Canadian company?! Do your research, please. It's made in China. And guess what? Edifier is a Chinese brand. If you don't like anything China-related, don't be sad, just sell it to someone who doesn't care that much. By the way, a kind reminder here, it's 2020 this year, please step out of the Cold War era. Sometimes, you can put your ideological pride away a little bit. They are just bookshelf speakers, no need to demonize them. Wish you have a happy life.
@@albertchen3530 I took the time to write a good review and my experience with the edifier and audioengine hd6. Audioholics.com review mentioned the company as a Canadian company and as I usually think of Gene's word as the final word on most subjects audiophile I guess in this case I misheard him. I did not research further as I am a very busy man. As far as the political *kind reminder* I don't think it is cold war era to want to buy American today considering the economy in our country. I don't think I will be putting my American pride away anytime soon Albert but thanks for the non solicited advice. I will keep my opinion about the communist Chinese party to myself as it is not an appropriate platform for such remarks.
@@MrKeithcl It's that you are proud of your own country, even though you know it's not perfect. Everyone deserves that. Not sure if these communist Chinese speakers will make you sad again someday. Hope you enjoy your speakers and keep on being a very busy man. Well, if you have a chance, please don't mind to see the real world without bias. Ideologies, politicians, and the mass media may have covered your eyes, but you can try to open them with your brain if it can still think. Right, it's not a proper platform for such remarks here. Thanks for the review.
edifier is god of all studio speakers regarding frequency responce features and audio decoding\
Klipsh R-51M has more separation, refined, airy high , pin point accuracy in more organized way, s3000pro has more punch, deeper bass, mainly due to a bigger 6.5" woofer . if you want a balanced speaker with character with it, Klipsh is the way to go, or go with A100 which is superb in almost every way.
balanced but pretty formless in comparison.
Who makes this A100 of which you speak? And how is the build quality? (I've been hearing a lot of knocks against Edifier, in this regard.)
@@CinemaDemocratica A100 also known as Edifier AirPulse A100
I am surprised how small of the difference between source track and playing through these speakers.
I always liked this channel for not having biased video titles. Is this a change for the worse? I find this title to be more of a click-bait. I happen to like both brand speakers, but these are different speakers designed for different purposes. Edifier does not own Klipsch here - the added bass response comes at the expense of less defined high and mid-high frequencies. Like many other Klipsch bookshelves, these are designed for accurate dynamic sound and are meant to be paired with a subwoofer for the extra bass response - then you get the best of both worlds. Edifiers having roots primarily in multimedia speakers aim more for the complete range frequency response and for that make some sacrifices in the accuracy. Edifiers are more for multimedia and movies, Klipsches are more for pure music listening, but with the sub added can also excel in other applications.
It's just a title to you, but it means everything to the creator. He's trying something new and it works better than the old system. The algorithm promotes these video titles over "documentation style" videos and subsequently the non-flashy videos are left out to dry. Clicking on a video because the title is interesting is just how UA-cam and its core audience works. Just look at how his recent previous videos have done with/without clickbait titles. Change has to happen for progress to occur once you've hit a certain limit.
If the creator likes a speaker over another, keep in mind that he is the one in person auditioning the speakers, which is recorded through a microphone (which may or may not record what they actually sound like) in his house, and then gets to your ears. To come up with your own opinion, you can just listen to the sounds produced by the speakers.
@@stevenjiang1423 I respect your opinion but will disagree with your reasoning. I don't know about you, but I am personally tired of click-baits. One of the unique traits of this channel has been a very neutral tone - the author would let you listen and draw your own conclusions without suggesting anything in the title. I still like this channel an continue to subscribe. You might have noticed I did not dislike the video. I just shared my concern with the author. I think any creator needs to get feedback from their target audience. YMMV. Peace.
Hi Suleyman. Regarding the tiltles, I get where you are coming from, they do exaggerate a bit to spike interest of passing viewer, this is UA-cam AD2019 for you, you have draw the eyes somehow to survive.
On the other hand I stand behind title of this video wholehartedly, Edifier does wipes the floor with bass performance of Klipsch. I do not buy the argument that R51PM is designed to work with subwoofer, first of all Klipsch is not stating anywhere that R51PM should be used with subwoofer for proper bass response, so you buy full sized speaker expecting it to sound fullbodied ,that in the end sounds like a glorified satellite speaker.
Second of all just simply adding subwoofer does not fix its problems. If you buy a inexpensive "boombox" style subwoofer than you are actually making overall sound worse, so you have spend decend money to even match what Edifier offers. Than again even the proper subwoofer must be properly placed and than tuned to achive proper balance, which is a lot of hassle and does not guarantee proper blending due to room modes etc. Another problem of Klipsch is that it runs out of steam much earlier than any decent subwoofer connected to it, I can push Edifier much louder withhout distortion and keep the proper balance between lows and the rest of the spectrum
Sorry, the highs of the Edifier are vastly superior. Going from Klipsch to Edifier clarifies a lot like going from low resolution to high.
@@DSAUDIOreview that's great to know the Edifier can be pushed so loud
Can't Sleep On Edifier Speakers... Listening to this video with my R1850DB'S that just came today, can't wait to see how they sound when I watch a movie, now I just need to get the subwoofer and speaker stands then I'll have a nice entertainment center nothing expensive but perfect for a an apartment, I can't even play this to loud without disturbing neighbors
how does your system sound for your TV and movies ?.....i am tossing Edifier around for this but I just don't know which one..lol...cheers from Vulcan Canada
I'm really amazed by the S3000Pro's...wow!
Eddies all the way.. emotional and dynamic reproduction.. amazing low end.
Why is there a dip between 100 and 200hz?
phasoinvertor is some rubbish))) it's need to fix it some piece of paper or bubble gum)
the klipsch sound very tinny to me and less defined on the low end. Probably a fantastic speaker nonetheless.
edifier s3000pro all the way.. I'm currently using s360db and satisfied with the sound & build quality... but after found out about this s3000pro.. my ears become itchy lol.. plus s3kpro is only $600 in my country
listening from my Creative Pebble v2
I'm no audiophile, I just purchased a set of r-51PM because, well, Klipsch. I will say from listening to this, especially the Metal Head track, the Klipsch sound "bright" and seem to lose or should I say have mid's rolled off, in comparision to the Edifier, that unit sounded more "balanced" (?) forgive my not using the correct terms, but I do know that Klipsch do need some time to "break in", I've also added the Klipsch R-120SW because my r-51 allows me to add a sub. In any case, I think it comes down to what you like to hear, what your ears find pleasing to listen to. But I'll say the Edifer's sound more full and balanced in my opinion. Does this mean I'll return my Klipsch? Nah, because I like a more bright tone on the high ends. Also, just curious to know, are both speakers a V shape audio patter or do they differ from each other? Thanks
What about the bass? Are they deep or dry ? 😱
The Edifier 3000s have been winning a *lot* of these head-to-heads, but they're also $800 from Amazon (at that kind of money why not go passive and then modularize future upgrades?) and there are also some nagging criticisms on the build-quality side. Surely there's a $300-$500 powered bookshelf alternative that sounds nice and won't fall apart in nine months?
I'm not saying Edifiers are great, to be honest never listened to them. But I don't get this modularization you're talking about. People seem to buy amps and speakers then sell amps and sell speakers and so on. What benefit is there? You're selling everything anyway, that's what hi-fi enthusiasts are doing. With an active speaker you just sell it and get whatever the hell you want instead: another pair of actives, or amp and passive, w/e. Why is an active speaker more impractical? Because it seems to me it's the other way around! Certain amps don't go with certain speakers, but you don't know what amp goes with what speaker because manufacturers don't say anything about it. So?
@@mircea5013 I could have explained that better but the point I was trying to make is that the $800 speakers being auditioned here are powered, so if you want to upgrade anything later, you'd either have to go with another powered speaker, or start from scratch with an amp and passive speakers. In my experience -- which sounds like it might be different from yours -- audiophiles enjoy switching-out individual pieces of their kit, independently.
So for example I had a pair of Linn Ninkas which sounded great with a Naim Nait 5i, but the Nait wasn't ever going to power the Salk Songtowers that I wanted to try, so after settling on the Songtowers I went and auditioned a series of amps until finally settling on ... the Naim Nait 5i that I already had, and which ran the Songtowers just fine, thank you very much. I was able to swap the speakers but, in the end, keep the amp. That's not something you can even sniff at for the same price as a pair of Edifier r1850db's, but it begins to be just-about-possible for $800.
The whole appeal of powered speakers, it seems to me, is that you're getting the entire rig for a very affordable entry point. If instead you're paying Rotel-and-Wharfdale prices to get this particular model, then it seems to me that you're sacrificing the chance to swap out individual ingredients, but without gaining on money left over. Seems silly to me but YMMV. It sounds like your experience of the hobby is more about wholesale replacement anyway when it's time to move in a different direction, in which case the drawback that I'm describing here wouldn't bite as bad.
@@CinemaDemocratica It's not that I disagree with you that going amp+passive is modular. It's just that by getting an active speaker *that you like how it sounds* is sufficient. You can't swap the amp, but then again you shouldn't, right? By getting passive speakers you just create a new world of problems, where you need to match the amp with the speakers and you get into the buy and resale part trying to mess with it over and over until you end up selling both of them anyway. Maybe not both at once, but in the end you basically swap the whole system.
So my opinion is, this is probably somewhat of a hifi enthusiast hobby.
What I would be more interested in is: are these speakers better than an equivalently priced amp+speakers? Because this isn't usually compared anywhere. And I might just make some purchases, simply compare them myself, and return what I don't like.
I think this is much more a case of having a different mindset and/or a different set of antecedent experiences with the hobby, than it is of one of us being right and the other being wrong. Clearly a separate amp and passive speakers will, yes, afford greater flexibility regardless of price-point, but when you say "an equivalently priced amp + speakers," I'm getting a mental picture of a world in which there are finite alternatives, which is much less obvious at an $800 entry point than a $300 one.
Exactly how would one go about assuring one's self that an $800 powered speaker sounds better than "an" equivalently priced amp + speakers, when the array of choices fitting the description of "an" equivalently priced amp and speakers are, themselves, so much more numerous, and so immensely different from each other, too?
You could get a Yamaha integrated and a pair of Klipsch Kg4's for $800, or you could get an Arcam FMJ-23 and a pair of Vandersteens, and those two rigs would have almost nothing in common sonically. You can't do that with a $300 budget: There just aren't enough viable alternatives in that price-point that the sacrifice in flexibility is a problem for the Edifiers. Which is why I think -- from my own perspective -- powered speakers are a much more sensible solution when $300 is what you've budgeted to spend, as opposed to $800.
@@CinemaDemocratica Well, for one thing, the Edifier s3000 Pro II is about $500, not 800 (in Europe at least). Really, not that many options, because for one, the most important tool are the speakers, and then the amp (considering it provides enough power). Then you need a pair of good speakers with preferably a 6.5" woofer that has some bass (as the Edifier also has). So that leaves us with some entry level amp, and MA Bronze 100, Q acoustics 3030i. That's about it. And in both cases, it will be a bit more expensive, like $600, we'll call it even. So I'm not so sure I wold have so many variants.
And yes, comparisons between passive and active speakers can be done: pick a reasonably priced amp and start comparing speakers. Real world scenario. No one does it unfortunately.
Your speaker set apart too close from each other. Especially, Edifier speakers need certain distance to bring out true sound quality.
As someone who really enjoys the sound of the R-15PM, I feel like the S3000Pro is the better speaker here. That said, I'm actually impressed that the R-51PM hold up as well as it does given the price gap between the two models. Which along with the difference in woofer size make these odd companions for a comparison video. S3000Pro defiantly does best the R-51PM in the bass department, as it should given it's larger woofer. But I was really expecting to hear more difference in the highs and mids given the different tweeter designs. There are few instances where the S3000Pro seems like it has the advantage in the upper treble region (and the graph seems to reflect this), but it's hardly a night and day difference. In fact sound signature-wise these two seem remarkably close. If anything I'm more disappointed in the S3000Pro for not owning Kipsch throughout the entire spectrum than I am in the R-51PM for under preforming in the bass region. For what it's worth though, I don't entirely trust the compressed audio on UA-cam to tell the whole picture, especially when it comes to highs. Just curious, but did you turn off the bass management feature on the R-51PM when doing this comparison?
Dynamic Bass EQ was engaged
@@DSAUDIOreview To które w końcu są lepsze? Bas to nie wszystko. Czy średnie tony oraz wysokie są na takim samym poziomie czy jednak któryś z tych głośników wybija się w tej sferze? We wcześniejszym materiale porównania dwóch aktywnych klipschów napisałeś, że S3000 Pro zdecydowanie jest lepszy względem R-51PM. Za odpowiedź wielkie dzięki!
Klipsch, mimo że tańszy, moim zdaniem nie wart jest swojej ceny. Edifier wręcz przeciwnie. S3000Pro gra dźwiękiem lepiej zrównoważonym, bardziej naturalnym, ze znacznie lepszym basem i dynamiką. Klipsch przy nich brzmi plasko i troche pudełkowato.
hello, greetings
please, i would like to ask you a question, do you still recommend the klipsch r-15pm? i am looking at the second hand market with the idea of getting a better quality audio with my budget, and i really like the klispchs.
I ask you a question please to you that you have them, how they behave in a use for pc and to connect them to the tv to watch movies and series? in my personal case, I'm not much of giving too much volume, so I'm looking for something that at low volume gives enough quality midrange and treble, and above all the maximum distinction of the different sounds, such as when there is a scene of a forest, the sound of the wind, the rustling of branches, the singing of birds ... I do not know if I explain, I'm totally new to this, I prefer to have that quality rather than having a bass that tarnish the sound.
please, if i send you a couple of links, would it be possible to upload a sample video of how they sound to get an idea? you don't know how much i would appreciate it
thank you very much
@@josegonzalez-xf2se I think the R-15PM are great for use with a TV, not as great for use with a PC. I really haven't found a better pair of speaker for use with a TV from a feature standpoint. The R-15PM will wake from sleep when they detect a signal and go to sleep when there is no signal. I've been able to pair Fire Stick remotes, Chromecast remotes, and cable box remotes for volume control as well. Their somewhat bright sound also tends to help with dialog. There's a fare amount of hiss that comes the tweeter though. That makes far less suited for a nearfield setup like a PC. They also don't have a ton of bass. That's never really bothered me, but it's still worth noting. I really don't recommend them at full retail price, but if you can get them at a discount then they're worth considering.
$799 "Audiophile" speakers have better lower mids than speakers Best Buy is selling for $299 at the moment? Shocking. Seriously, clearly more depth in the low-mids on the S3000's, and I felt as though the Klipsch handled the rest of the mid-range better. In the context of "thumping" bass, neither pair will alone be adequate, and I thought the high frequencies were even other than some distortion on the S3000's. I came away thinking it was a wash, and then realized one pair is $500 cheaper...
I know this is a two year ago statement, but It's like comparing apples to oranges. Better comparison would be Klipsch rb 81 for the same price range and power handling. They would Drown out the Edifier!
Klipsch highs too harsh, but Edifier even more distortion on the highs (1st track.) Like Genelec 8020D much better thank you. Do the first trek on Edifier AirPulse. Overall so far genelecs look the best.
Honestly I don’t think the price difference is worthy spending $900 on the s3000pro very nice speakers but the klipsch paired with the R-100sw subwoofer and still save some money I’d go with the klipsch all the way.
The Edifier s3000 pro is 600 USD in Bangladesh. Why is it so high priced on Amazon?
using mojo/dragonfly red + Andromeda-gold. S3000pro sounds better specially the low end.
Edifier S3000Pro ПРОСТО ВНЕ КОНКУРЕНЦИИ! Максимально похоже на оригинальный микс играют! на них идеально сводить инструменты , а чистить косяки в миксе можно и с помощью наушников где верха+ средние будут максимально яркими и прозрачными.
Edifier’s sound like stereo speakers. Klipsch’s sound like the band! 🤘😁👍
Both are jacked up on treble, but the Klipsch sounds more unnatural and metallic. That's the last thing I want treble to be: metallic. I can hear the sibilance from here. Too bad because those are sexy looking speakers!
SO $800 speakers beat out $500speakers? Good to know.
I live in Switzerland and I actually buy the klipsch for even less (≈400$)
Soooo yes. Seems like that if you pay the double for a product, you get something better. Good to know 😂
$800 vs $340 now
Edifier S3000Pro 2 in China is about $400, all for taxes
The Klipsch is on sale at Best Buy for $144 right now
@@mastroitek Edifier S3000 pro is 600 USD in Bangladesh (which imports it from China).
s3000 no contest!
@@dhrdogterom ?
S3000Pro still, while R51PM is even close than MTM, great sound with budget.
Edifiers sound more relaxed and the Klipsch are a bit more harsh. Team Edifier gets the win this time.
Edifier👌
Both sound similar to me. Here is something to keep in mind, good and bad comments can be purchased by anyone. Always keep that in mind.
Get a good pair of heaadphones and you will notice right away !
Edifier won!
jajaja NO
@@funkyboy09 It seems yes.
Eddies maybe little too boomy, midlevel drownes under that boom, other wise nice. Both of them great, i like klipsch clear range though.
Claramente es mejor Klipsch R-51PM. Tiene sonido mas claro y profundo. el sonido de edifier s300pro esta mas apagado.
Si exacto yo me iva a comprar las s3000 pero al escuchar las klipsch en otro canal hi-end me enamore ,solo el edifier r1850 db suena mejor que klispsch
The edifiers have more depth, the klipsch are much to bright, they would wear on me. In fairness the edifiers are much more expensive. But worth it
Isnt this an unfair comparison for the Klipsch since the Klipsch can have a subwoofer connected (and it is not connected) ?
Bass of the Edifier in Dynamic pretty much owns everything, but i guess youre in Monitor mode here, which is at least better than Classic mode. But still not good enough to significantly beat a DSP boosted 3.5" driver such as iLoud lol. iLoud is the epitome of using DSP to make the great sound. RP51 bass has always been low and needs a subwoofer. But we get to compare to Klipsch's signature tweeter -- with the same result as always. Klipsch horn loaded tweeters always sound echoey and like it's coming from a tube (pretty much is lol). Still an interesting video using the future of speakers (DSP) vs the past (passive crossovers). Passive crossovers get the whole amplified signal, then chop off the frequencies they don't need which is wasteful and adds noise. Also can't easily fine tune different frequencies to a more dynamic and enjoyable sound. That's exactly why you should be using the S3000pro in dynamic mode. Cos its more dynamic, it's exciting to listen to music. It has a detailed wow factor cos the highs and lows are more pronounced so you can actually hear what's going on in the bass and the highs. Yes it creates a V shape, but the details it reveals are insane.
You are right, S3000Pro is in monitor mode. I much prefere this mode over dynamic mode as it is more neutral and balanced, but I also agree that S3000Pro sounds more exciting and fun in dynamic mode
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@@DSAUDIOreview yeah the highs in Dynamic are a little too high and tiresome. But overall the sound is amazing and blows away Monitor mode in comparison.
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For a Living Room for listen primary Music, which you prefer? the Sixes, s3000 pro or some Airpulse? I normally like play these type of speakers in Dynamic mode.
Thanks
Ari Fonts Ff i have the same question 🤔
Klipsch R-51PM much metalic sound (tiring to hear)
Edifier S3000Pro less metalic (less tiring to hear)
My thoughts exactly!
But when you factor in that the S3000Pro's are $300 more and you can get the Klispch R-41PM's for half the price of the Edifier's it makes a big difference
Klipsch are very clean but lack a bit of body and meat...edifier has a bigger body sound but not as clean.. A subwoofer would be great with the klipsch.
What is happening with that plannar tweeter edifier makes such a great fuss...i think it is not that great. And i insist the edifier S1000db is the best buy.
As always thanks for the video. Really love all of them
Just adding a subwoofer to Klipsch does not make it great system automatically. I own previous model, R15PM, which is more or less the same speaker in slightly different cabinet, and to get bass like in S3000Pro you also have to have good quality sub (SVS SB1000 was connected to my pair) than properly place it to avoid room modes, and than properly dial it together to achive proper blend which is problematic and hard to achive. With 2.0 system operating in full spectrum you avoid all of those problems
Funny you should say that as I own both a pair of S1000Db and S3000pro and there is no comparison. The plannar tweeters in the the 3000s are far far superior in detail, clarity and smoothness. If your only source of comparison are these clips through headphones, you simply aren’t getting the full picture.
@@christophedecavalla2941 aaah ok thats good to know. thanks very much
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Anyway endrizo says that s1000db is probably the best buy (bang for the buck) it's obvious that the s3000 pro model is better.
But it's great that you have both models to compare!
I'm a owner of a r2000db pair, and I'm thinking to purchase the s3000 pro for my bigger living room, what do you think? I really will gonna notice a BIG upgrade? Love his design with the Edifier Stands.
Jose Fuentes absolutely. You’ll understand when have them with you. Just give them a few hours to break-in before passing final judgement. Though there is minimal distortion, moderate volume the s1000db are working hard enough to notice a breakdown in balance of frequency to fill a large room. While the s3000pro don’t even break a sweat and remain perfectly balanced with far more depth, stage, bass control and smoother highs. Think about just that: 120w vs 256w. Like I said before, they are not even in the same league. You will not be disappointed if you get the 3000s. And let me know what you think when you do. I disagree with the 1000s being better value. Maybe in near-field but in a large room there isn’t anything compare
Imo that bass frequency curve of the edifier looks full of dips and peaks. Maybe it sounds better than it looks? But it doesn't look like a good quality low end. I think a sub could make the lows much more full. The price difference in these 2 models are $376. For that money you can buy an svs or build your own to go with the Klipsch. I think the Klipsch with a sub is probably a better way to go. Not that I'm telling anyone to buy either, personally, I wouldn't buy either.
those dips and peaks are just the room. in a different room or placement they would be different. same with all speakers.
s3000 !!!!!!!!!!!!! Winner~!
Please give me a pair of Edifier now
Edifier is pounching heavy there, nice wide sound...
s3000 musical but R51pm sound clear more
source track sounded better than the speakers for all samples, weird
In Brazil this Edifier costs more than a Yamaha HS8 pair...
HS8 does not support USB,OPTICAL,BLUETOOTH 5.0 AND APTX HD. Also the Edifier are 256 watts RMS.
Yo los escucho casi igual, y el edifier lo dobla en precio al klipsch
Pienso lo mismo, no es una comparación justa al menos por el precio
EDIFIER - Please add SUB-OUT in your S series !!!
Конечно, Klipsh не так глубоко копают, как Edifier, но ясность и разрешение на высоких у них гораздо выше.
И кому нужна эта ясность когда в мониторах НУЖЕН ВЫВЕРЕННЫЙ ЧАСТОТНЫЙ БАЛАНС! Чтобы все инструменты звучали максимально приближенно к оригиналу, как раз сводить миксы удобней на Edifier S3000Pro , а всякие реверы и хвосты редактировать можно и в наушниках!
@Gunyoken лолчто? Покажите мне нормальные мониторы за 150$.
@Gunyoken нормальные это значит с относительно ровной ачх, а не мусор за 150$ где производитель пишет что это это мониторы, а по ачх полный фейл
@Gunyoken лол, конечно услышу. Мы говорим про мониторы или что? Ты вообще понимаешь чем мониторы от обычного аудио должны отличаться?
Im listening on $100 logitechs😂
I'm listening from Kenwood small speakers and dai ichi subwoofer
Klipsch podbarwia bas na wysokości 70-90hz co jest bardzo męczące na długą metę... Niższych partii brak, pozycjonowania brak, rozpraszanie w miarę dobre- ogólnie bardzo słabo, już Edifier s 1000mk2 zjada Klipsch na śniadanie nie mówiąc o s3000pro które jest w ogóle w innej lidze.
Any, really.....
Klipsch R-51PM is better with metal sound.
Ok, some things to remember here people. This is a 6.5" $800 speaker pair tuned for the lower end versus a 5.25" $400 pair tuned for the mid and upper end. Of course the bigger speakers are gonna have more base and sound 'better' in a youtube comparison, but they also lose in the highs and mids in person and lose fidelity in those ranges compared to the Klipschs. Not really an apple to apple comparison here. Not in size, intended use, or price.
Did you actually compared them or you just assume that Edifier will loose to Klipsch in person? What about the upper mids/lower treble boost in Klipsch? Is that what you call increased fidelity? What about the fact that speakers half the size and price of Klipsch can have deeper bass response? Just a few questions to consider
@@DSAUDIOreview - These Klipsch are not really made for bass, as you suggest in a different reply, having a frequency response of only 68hz-21Khz with an extension down to ~50hz. No one would ever claim these are made for bass :) Klipsch themselves suggest pairing them with the R-100SW/R-120SW subs and have included a sub-out on the back for that very reason.
The S3000s were made more to be a stand-alone pair and claim to have 'room shattering base' all by themselves with a response down to a claimed 38hz (from 6.5") and reaching all the way up to 40Khz.
@@midniteoyl8913 that is not changing the fact that R51PM got owned by S3000Pro bass wise. Wouldn't you agree? Just because Klipsch claimed they created speaker with weak bass does not make it OK
@@DSAUDIOreview - I agree that in this test the bass was better with the S3000's, but it wasn't really a fair one as for the money of the S3000's, you can do a lot better with Klipsch. I mean, for $800 you could get both 8" and 10" subs to pair with the Klipsch's, still be money ahead and have much better sound and bass.
I like what you do and am subscribed, and so far this is the only comparison I have trouble with, but as I said above, this wasn't really an apples to apples comparison.
Again, I have to disagree. Simply adding a subwoofer does not make everything ok. I have tried to blend a subwoofer with the old R15PM (which is basically the same speaker with different tube and slightly different cabinet look) and I could not achive the same kind of bass response from 2.1 system as from full range 2.0. Problems come from subwoofer placement, room nods and the fact that subwoofer will be playing mono. The depth may be there but you will hear the sub as a separate source of sound most of the time. Another problem is that R51PM can not play really loud without distorting and becoming shouty and uncomfortable to listen. R51PM gives up earlier than the sub will and earlier than S3000Pro will. The sub I used was SVS SB1000. For music I would still choose S3000Pro over R51PM + sub. For movies I would give a slight nod to Klipsch plus sub combo, as long as the level is kept within its limits
They both sounds like me speakers, wait...
Клипш r-51pm всё равно круче!!!
edifier s3000pro won, especially on track dream a dream, retro wave
о как классно звучат клипши , но не забывайте , что на самом деле это звучат ваши колонки
klipch is still the best , clarity and sounds
If you offered commentary your videos would be way more interesting. We can barely hear any difference from here
The Klipsch don't sound good at all to me.
От клипш остался пшшш 😂
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Klipsch is smoother and easier on the ear. Edifier sounds like an exagerated PC boom box
This comparison is in no way a fair comparison. The Edifier are larger(6.5 in. woofer) and twice the power the Klipsch (5.25 in woofer) has. Klipsch is 60 watts x 2 for 120 watts vs Edifier 120 watts x 2 for 240 watts . Shame on DS for this
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