Thanks Firas. One comment though: in my experience, if you simply bridge and roll, the opponent can defend by basing with his from foot (he does not need to base with his hand - i.e. releasing yours). Hence, before I bridge, I reach his hips with my free hand and bring my hips as close to his as I can - actually in a spooning position (sometimes, using my legs to capture his legs to come close if he is clocking). Once there, I can almost scoop under and bridge. Doing this creates a different angle and makes posturing with the front leg very difficult. My 2 cents. Not sure if my comment is clear...:-) Thanks for the vids. Keep them coming. Respect David
supernalbjj They can armlock your arm by pulling up the elbow from this escape. Its not exactly foolproof since that armlock can be applied in seconds.
No you idiot. Once our elbow is hidden beside our ribs and his hip, he cannot generate the leverage and power to pull it back. Firas knows the mechanics of a move better than all of us. So stfu with your whitebelt advices.
Jitsu Lee you just dont know shit about wrestling or judo. Ive seen Wade Challes, Jack Mountford and others demonstrate how the shoulder lock from this position works in multiple instructionals. I guess his advice is whitebelt advice to you.
i saw this like 2 weeks ago and i had to came back to say thank you sir, it worked so good. so many thing just clicked for me on this one, even things that i already knew. for example i knew im supposed to bridge using the tips of my feet, everybody in the academy told me that but i never did until you said "i dont wanna put my feet flat on the ground" it clicked, i paused the video went to my bed and bride saying the same thing in my head and just like that my bridging got way better. so thank you, thank you very very much
Worked like a charm on the first try against my training partner who weighs 15KG more than me. Tonight, against a training partner that trains MMA and weighs 25KG more than me, it got stuffed exactly as you described, but the frame saved me from a submission. We ended up in a headlock-deadlock for the rest of the roll when the guy wouldn't let go of my head, and I couldn't get out. I came back to study the 2nd half of your video for my next roll with this guy. Looking forward to it! :) Thanks, Firas!
Victor Muh chase after his legs. Think Homer Simpson running on the ground. Once you catch him use your left leg to reach out to hook his left leg. Once I get the hook I pop up to the knee
Subscribed. I like how you go over the transitions that people do from the position. For instance, you say "if your arm is bent..." then you mention "if your arm is straight..." then you show the escape. It's nice to know different things that could happen from the position your teaching.
Excellent technique. You are fast becoming my favorite teacher. In my experience, unless you bridge and roll your opponent it is crucial to get your arm free before you can escape.
The framing detail is amazing. Definitely a Danaher Black Belt! I learned the toes close to the butt to bridge from a Marcelo video. I trained with tons of Judo dudes and I smash them with that all day.
I'm sure Dean Lister knows a number of ways to escape from that chest compression, but I imagine it must've been be really hard after he carried around Barnett's weight for 20 minutes, with elbows and knees on his face... catch as catch can wrestling ladies and gentlemen...
First, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! I really appreciate you taking the time to put these videos up. I also had a question. I come from a wrestling background and how I was taught the headlock (and how the guys I wrestle with use it) is to grab his tricep with the arm around the head and with the opposite arm, grab UNDER his (trapped) arm and grab your own hand, as opposed to going over the arm and hooking the elbow as the video showed. The method I'm used to makes the hold much tighter (in my opinion) and also puts your partner at a disadvantage because he cannot lock around your waist/ribs any longer. He instead would have to lock around your head making it much harder to control the body when trying to escape. It is very hard to bump the top guy forward because you no longer control his hips. I was wondering if you had any techniques to escape this (similar) position of the head lock. Again thank you for taking the time to help share your expertise with people. It is very appreciated.
I did it in wrestling practice with the bigggest dude and I didn’t realize I was making him pass until I looked into his eyes and realized he was about to black out 😂
@ tristar what a great video! love the details. question!the hand that you grabbed after the shrimping is it a good idea to keep a hold of it after side mount or is it just to secure the side mount?
The best headlock escape I’ve ever seen was in my 8th grade gym class, this red headed kid was pestering this other kid so the other kid got the redhead in a headlock for about 3 seconds until the redhead managed to punch the other kid square in the nads. Needless to say he escaped the headlock.
Tristar Gym Shukran (Thank you) Sensei Zahabi. Excellent teaching skills. Few good technicians in the world, and even fewer with good teaching skills. I was wondering what your thoughts were on defending and/or countering the oblique kick? (Both lead and back legs variations). Here is the great Bas Rutten's response when I asked on twitter "Indoor with a liver kick and right straight plus whatever I wanna throw after. But you have to train for it so u can detect when it comes. When they throw it,bring left leg back and throw immediately a liver kick plus the rest"
the guy applying the Kesa Gatame doesnt have his right leg out(his right leg is bent, this stops the roll. also the judo kesa katame teaches to hold your head down not back.
It doesn't work at higher levels as well, but at lower levels, you can use a head lock throw in wrestling and go straight into the head lock submission. The reason it works is because you land on them in throw (taking the air out of their lungs) and then you go North and wretched the head up, while laying as much as you can on the Chest. My son uses it in Jui-jitsu class frequently enough. Kids panick from the throw, and once he cranks the head kids usually tap. Sometimes they tap on throw because he lands on the chest, knocking the wind out of them. At low levels, the headlock throw is a very high percentage throw because you can work it off the double or single and the timing is easy for kids to pick up. At higher levels, it just depends on the opponent and how well they shoot. People don't expect it. It shouldn't be a go to but is a nice back pocket submission combination. I thought it was something I just made up. But I've seen the combination done in wrestling and sambo which made me feel better that it was a legit combo move. BJJ just doesn't wrestle enough from the standing throw to examine these combinations because they are not awarded very many points for throwing opponents in tournaments. Westling and sambo it is a 4 point throw.
Coach, I was really hoping to string this along with the dual arm bar you show in "Key Side Control Attack Details" since it is a safe sub attempt, but the headlock escape to side control leaves the bottom player's arms in a slightly different position. Any suggestions to go from the position the escape leaves you in into the dual arm-bar? Thanks so much, big fan, love all your videos!
Much respect to Firas! However, I must raise a point here. It seems that most BJJ guys have a very low opinion of this position. I think the reason for this is that most BJJ guys don't do this technique very well, so therefore it's easy for their partner (who is also a BJJ guy) to counter. Most BJJ guys make the mistake of sitting on the floor when in this position. Instead, you should lift your hips off the floor and slide your weight down so that your upper back is on his chest, with your hips moving almost north of his head. Watch how Josh Barnett does it against dean Lister. Notice how he is not sitting on the floor at all, but lifting his hips up and away so that he is grinding all of his weight down into Dean's chest. Furthermore, he is moving his centre of gravity away from Dean, making it much harder to be bridged. This technique is more subtle than most people think. In this video, both Firas and his partner are sitting on the floor. I would very interested to see if these escapes would work against a strong wrestler who is doing it properly. The knee in the back thing looks very interesting and I think it would prevent the chest compression sub, but I don't know about the bridging escape. In my limited experience, you can't bridge a guy from that position if he's doing it properly by using a strong base with his hips off the floor. I could be wrong, but I would like to see this demonstrated against proper technique.
Everything up to 4:05 is very cool, I will need to try it. Another great way is to turn into him and wrap your left leg around his left leg and then roll him over you. Either way, if your against a good wrestler there's no guarantee. For your move after 4:05 to work consistently you would need to be wrestling a very incompetent and/or exhausted wrestler. But very cool video.
Hmmm, the way I'd do the headlock doesn't look anywhere like that one. Think it's a bit harder to get out of. From sidecontrol I put my right arm around your neck. My head goes outside your right arm and push it over your own neck. My left hand locks with my right hand. Then I climb my leg up "over" your shoulders and then I lift your head so your chin presses against your arm and chokes you out. The headlock you showed there is pretty ineffective. I hope I described it so you understand what I mean. The efficiency of that headlock is that when you bridge you actually choke yourself out faster as it increases the pressure on your throat. So it isn't much pressure on your chest so the bridging is pretty useless. If you ain't using it I hope it gives you another tool to win.
Does this work against a judo-style kesa gatame aswell? Because the judo guys don't try to tap you, but just control you, without giving any chance to move.
Today, I mean a few hours earlier I was rollin with a wrestler..after 8 or 9 mins I made a mistake and he got me into this headlock. I tried to bridge and sweep him the way its shown here but he had a tight solid grip and finally I tapped. He was 9kg heavier and most of the time using power to break away from my guard or submissions attempts such as armlock and once a rear naked choke (that was embarassing)... Him being heavier was not an excuse as Ive seen many BJJ guys submitting much heavier opponents. Anyway it didnt work for me this time.
Raj Singh hey buddy nice try! Next time chase him in the same direction. Think Homer Simpson running on the ground lol. Once to catch up use your left leg to hook his left leg. Once I get that hook I pop up to my knees. You're already behind him and he cannot throw you back down.
There’s an easier way to do this that you learn in wrestling, it doesn’t involve a bridge. If you’re wrestling a wrestler who does headlocks a lot the bridge probably won’t work, most wrestlers are gonna hip down without needing to post their arm. A better way imo is to circle your hips and legs towards him and then throwing a leg in, locking your hands together and rolling through backwards.he will be pushing into you so his momentum will carry him over you. If you have a leg thrown in then he can’t flip his hips and the chance of rolling through are much better, plus you are on his back, after you have rolled through. If that makes sense
R DULA exactly. Think Homer Simpson running on the ground in circles. Once you catch him hook his left leg with your left leg. You can pop up to a knee once that hook is in and he can't throw you back down.
Nathaniel Medici yeah but I teach a little different and wrestling I push off the back so he posts and then I can scoot my hips into him, then the Exact same process of pushing them over by bridging them over
his kesa gatame is all wrong! i am quite disappointed. :( in kesa gatame you need to have a leg post at about 11 or 12 o clock and that prevents the bridge. the leg frame is definitely interesting but i am not sure about doing bridge if the guy actually has a decent kesa gatame with the post
Stoney Lonsome Pfff...OK. Go down to your local judo school and give it a try. Or as Latino Samurai says, give it a try against a good wrestler. Enjoy the cauliflower ear. The position shown in the thumbnail is one you don't want to be in.
+profd65 Lol. This dude trains GSP at Tristar. I roll wrestlers and judo guys with this easily. Next, you frame their neck when you're on top, break the grip and either crush their ribs with a knee on belly while hitting the arm bar or establish side control.
Another idiot rambling here the stuff he doesn't know about. The Jiujitsu Kesa Gatame is a modified version of this Judo control where you have the underhook on the far hands and it was created because the judo/wrestler control was faulty in that a jiujitsu guy can easily take your back if he knows what he is doing as demonstrated in this video by Firas.
No at the highest level olympic wrestlers can't get out of a strong headlock once it's in and locked up. 1. His partner isn't holding the headlock properly for a wrestling headlock, he shouldn't give the underhook up on the side holding the arm, it's a worse position and it's harder to get into and easy to move the arm into the headlock encircled with the head and arm where the number of submissions are a lot higher and it's much harder to escape. 2. The guy on top never has to relax he's squeezing the air out of your chest and you're getting crushed. 3. If you frame there are lots of ways he can break your frame just by moving toward your face for a second and then rolling you back up with momentum. Everyone tries this framing trick on me and I still finish this hold, I was told to stop doing it because it's a "neck crank". I think it's not because you're lifting their shoulder too. 4. If he can't break the frame (really he should practice breaking the frame because it's pretty easy) all he has to do is push your own arm over your face (assuming he is holding the arm correctly, unlike in this video) If he can push that arm across his own face he can just do a nasty air choke. 5. If you relax he can also transition to put his chest on your face and just smash with his chest until you tap, it'll compress your nose shut and you'll have to mouth breathe with your airway obstructed while you're fighting this hold. He can also grind his face into yours these are nasty techniques that are all legal in most tournaments. This is probably the most dominant hold in jiujitsu that isn't a submission in and of itself. It's almost a submission by itself and it can be thrown from standing and you won't have a chance to frame up before he leans back. Your best bet is probably to push the face and create space to hip escape. Even the traditional wrestling escapes, hooking the leg and rolling through or walking your legs away, won't work at the higher levels a good wrestler is just going to adjust with you and you're getting more tired than he is. I could hold someone my size there for 15 minutes easily if they didn't tap from the chest compression.
Another great video! I think one important difference on why Barnett was able to tap Lister with this headlock was because he kept his arm under Dean's elbow with his hands locked (so Dean can't lock his hands around Barnett's waist for the bridge and roll) giving him intense pressure and preventing Dean's escaping the elbow. at 8:15 ua-cam.com/video/TDhW6ERd2dU/v-deo.html
Once the head and arm is acquired, the arm never gets tucked to the body. Its either pinned at the hip by the back of the elbow using the hand, or put across the face and locked arms around the head and arm. That's how wrestling teaches that technique. That's not a wrestling head lock. I want to see someone get out of the wrestling football grip front headlock. When done properly. "Elbows in tight and back of the head between the breast plates."
Nice techniques coach! However I don't think it would be effective for low level guys against decent wrestlers. You won't re roll a decent wrestler and if you go right to your knees you risk getting tossed again. What I have success doing is mimicking technique number two. Once I get on my side I chase my legs after him in the same direction. Think Homer Simpson's on the floor. Once I catch him I'll use my left leg to reach over and hook his left leg. Once I have that hook THEN I pop up to a knee. You pretty much have his back at that point and the leverage to throw you back down is gone.
you got to make sure you are venoumasly good because a wrestler has had the headlock perfected especially a world class wrestler an average wrestler is bad enough to be against within seconds a wrestler will have you chocked out especially on the street with pavement and concrete where a wrestler thrives ... check my video against a bjj student headlock is where I went naturally
Of course it is easily possible to escape a kesagatame / headlock that is applied in the worst way possible. Your method only shows, what beginners mistakes are to avoid when applying such a hold. Your timid and overly compliant student is not playing a really convincing opponent, who actually wants to keep you down, choke you out or make you submit. Didn't you say it is a heavy opponents game? Why then would you demonstrate this escape with a junior cruiserweight opponent? I could cough this one off my chest without "bridging" or anything of that sort. Try these fancy contortions with a 200+ pounds wrestler and you will be put to shame. A few things you guys should know when it comes to a kesagatame (if you listen to coach Firas, you are going to get squashed trying to "bridge" your way out of it and your neck is likely to be injured) - Do not wait for your opponent "to relax". That is just not going to happen, if that guy is serious about it. He is going to make your neck hurt, choke you out or armbar the living shit out of you. - Do not expect your opponent to keep his upper body and face so compliantly within your reach. An experienced wrestler will keep his head and torso down to avoid being poked in the eyes or grabbed by the neck/hair in streetfights. Further you are way less likely to flip him because of a more sensible weight distribution when he keeps his head down. - Your opponent is going to put pressure on your neck, not on your chest - why would he even do that? It is way easier to attack the neck and will give you way less leverage to flip him because he is not pulling you up but ensnaring your neck like a boa constrictor That being said, if such a hold is decently applied, it is not likely for you to ever get out - so tap out instead of endangering yourself, if in a sporting competition. If in a self defense situation, you should rather go for nerve pressure and other "dirty" tricks, because staying alive is not a matter of style. If you are looking for further self defense tatctis, please refer to selfe defense experts - not to sportsmen (with all due respect, BJJ is hardly a martial art) that forbid powerbombs in their tournaments so you can armbar your opponents dangling in the air like a bag of wet clothes. I do respect the discipline of BJJ as a sport, but it is way overhyped and does not offer sensible street fighting advice in most cases.
I never waste my time replying to this sort of nonsense, but hey, i'm at work killing time at the moment so why not. firstly; i'm 196cm and my weight ranges from 110-125kg which is to say, i'm one of those big guys that uses kesa very effectively. I've also won gold at Grappling Industries in my weight division, so while i'm not a top tier grappler, i can hold my own against most players While there are a number of escapes from kesa that i personally use, most of them are based around this type of unbalancing sweep They work. Period. I do it to others, they do it to me. We do not drop our weight to the neck because you need to let their bottom arm go free, and you can't hold a skilled player down like that, and it's LESS uncomfortable. A pure headlock is nowhere near as effective and it's much less controlling. This move is a chest compression, it inhibits breathing if done correctly, during a tussle with elevated breathing this can make you tap. The fact that you think grappling isn't a martial art (wrestling was THE first martial art) and the fact that you think someone who does self defence would actually be better at this situation, which grapplers specialise in, tells me you don't understand the first thing about it. As for your 'dirty tactics' i would love to show you first hand just how ineffective that rubbish is against a proper grappler. The best fighters in the world still get taken to the ground and smashed, and you think a dirty knee to the groin or poke to the eye is actually a viable option? Stick to something you know if you want to comment, right now you're just showing your ignorance
Nodus Bor- You were making some good points but you went too far when you said that BJJ is hardly a martial art. Though I will agree that the recent lean towards sport has created a lot of bad habits.
Thanks Firas.
One comment though: in my experience, if you simply bridge and roll, the opponent can defend by basing with his from foot (he does not need to base with his hand - i.e. releasing yours). Hence, before I bridge, I reach his hips with my free hand and bring my hips as close to his as I can - actually in a spooning position (sometimes, using my legs to capture his legs to come close if he is clocking). Once there, I can almost scoop under and bridge. Doing this creates a different angle and makes posturing with the front leg very difficult. My 2 cents.
Not sure if my comment is clear...:-)
Thanks for the vids. Keep them coming.
Respect
David
This is an excellent tip that makes the move even more effective
nice Ive never seen the leg frame to stop the neck crank befor
supernalbjj They can armlock your arm by pulling up the elbow from this escape. Its not exactly foolproof since that armlock can be applied in seconds.
No you idiot. Once our elbow is hidden beside our ribs and his hip, he cannot generate the leverage and power to pull it back. Firas knows the mechanics of a move better than all of us. So stfu with your whitebelt advices.
Jitsu Lee you just dont know shit about wrestling or judo. Ive seen Wade Challes, Jack Mountford and others demonstrate how the shoulder lock from this position works in multiple instructionals. I guess his advice is whitebelt advice to you.
I've got two guys at the gym who play Kesa. I'm gonna try it on them.
Firas is an amazing Coach, extremely smart and explains the details very well!
Very nice, especially the small detail concerning making the bridge more powerful!!
BJJ Cop: Let me see you elbow
BJJ Civilian: It is tucked in.
BJJ Cop: You are free to go.
The BEST explain out there for kesa gatame escape!! So many details very well explained! Subscribed
this is was one of the best techniques thats worked for my bjj against judoka's and wrestlers
That tip for bridge around 2:50 ~ was great
i saw this like 2 weeks ago and i had to came back to say thank you sir, it worked so good. so many thing just clicked for me on this one, even things that i already knew. for example i knew im supposed to bridge using the tips of my feet, everybody in the academy told me that but i never did until you said "i dont wanna put my feet flat on the ground" it clicked, i paused the video went to my bed and bride saying the same thing in my head and just like that my bridging got way better.
so thank you, thank you very very much
thats awesome very happy to hear it! more videos to come!
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2:30.
Thanks for pointing that detail out. I was skipping through the video just trying to 'catalog' a video with this counter.
Mr. Zahabi you are genius!!
Thank you so much for these sir! respect
Glad to help!
Worked like a charm on the first try against my training partner who weighs 15KG more than me. Tonight, against a training partner that trains MMA and weighs 25KG more than me, it got stuffed exactly as you described, but the frame saved me from a submission. We ended up in a headlock-deadlock for the rest of the roll when the guy wouldn't let go of my head, and I couldn't get out. I came back to study the 2nd half of your video for my next roll with this guy. Looking forward to it! :) Thanks, Firas!
Victor Muh chase after his legs. Think Homer Simpson running on the ground. Once you catch him use your left leg to reach out to hook his left leg. Once I get the hook I pop up to the knee
Subscribed. I like how you go over the transitions that people do from the position. For instance, you say "if your arm is bent..." then you mention "if your arm is straight..." then you show the escape. It's nice to know different things that could happen from the position your teaching.
Thanks Firaz!! I get caught in this position by the big guys at my gym all the time. One more tool to add to the belt!
Awesome video as always! Thanks Firas!
Excellent technique. You are fast becoming my favorite teacher. In my experience, unless you bridge and roll your opponent it is crucial to get your arm free before you can escape.
Loving and appreciating the insights in this video... and channel as a whole !
Great video for school yard or street too. Cool
that frame with the knee to stop the Barnet style sub is gold... also damn Ethan looking hella young
wonderful stuff
Thank you so much, I'm paying with lots of rib injuries when knowing how to get out of "kesa-gatame"
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Great content
Thx for the details. I have a lot of problems with big guys but mostly In kesa ketami
this is good stuff. Thank you for the video
You’re the man
Gracias profe🤙
So beautiful technique man
Many thanks for this.
Thanks for the bridge tip
The framing detail is amazing. Definitely a Danaher Black Belt! I learned the toes close to the butt to bridge from a Marcelo video. I trained with tons of Judo dudes and I smash them with that all day.
Great video. Those moves work like magic. I tried them
I'm sure Dean Lister knows a number of ways to escape from that chest compression, but I imagine it must've been be really hard after he carried around Barnett's weight for 20 minutes, with elbows and knees on his face... catch as catch can wrestling ladies and gentlemen...
First, thank you so much for sharing your knowledge! I really appreciate you taking the time to put these videos up.
I also had a question.
I come from a wrestling background and how I was taught the headlock (and how the guys I wrestle with use it) is to grab his tricep with the arm around the head and with the opposite arm, grab UNDER his (trapped) arm and grab your own hand, as opposed to going over the arm and hooking the elbow as the video showed.
The method I'm used to makes the hold much tighter (in my opinion) and also puts your partner at a disadvantage because he cannot lock around your waist/ribs any longer. He instead would have to lock around your head making it much harder to control the body when trying to escape. It is very hard to bump the top guy forward because you no longer control his hips.
I was wondering if you had any techniques to escape this (similar) position of the head lock.
Again thank you for taking the time to help share your expertise with people. It is very appreciated.
I got caught in this for the first time in a while today. The leg frame and hip bump are game changers.
I did it in wrestling practice with the bigggest dude and I didn’t realize I was making him pass until I looked into his eyes and realized he was about to black out 😂
good explanations thanks !
@ tristar what a great video! love the details. question!the hand that you grabbed after the shrimping is it a good idea to keep a hold of it after side mount or is it just to secure the side mount?
Good shit brotha
Very interesting!
What I learned is to push away on the face and walk away from your opponent at the same time, it works as a sweep and arm bar setup
TheGunFreak9 Exactly super easy
I love Firas like a man should only love a fine Cuban cigar.
Holy shit is that Ethan Crelinstein?
The best headlock escape I’ve ever seen was in my 8th grade gym class, this red headed kid was pestering this other kid so the other kid got the redhead in a headlock for about 3 seconds until the redhead managed to punch the other kid square in the nads. Needless to say he escaped the headlock.
Tristar Gym Shukran (Thank you) Sensei Zahabi. Excellent teaching skills. Few good technicians in the world, and even fewer with good teaching skills.
I was wondering what your thoughts were on defending and/or countering the oblique kick? (Both lead and back legs variations).
Here is the great Bas Rutten's response when I asked on twitter "Indoor with a liver kick and right straight plus whatever I wanna throw after. But you have to train for it so u can detect when it comes. When they throw it,bring left leg back and throw immediately a liver kick plus the rest"
the guy applying the Kesa Gatame doesnt have his right leg out(his right leg is bent, this stops the roll. also the judo kesa katame teaches to hold your head down not back.
It's kesa gatame in judo. The bridge is important and the escape of the controlled arm is important.
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The classic kesa gatame escape, as it's teach in judo and bjj
It doesn't work at higher levels as well, but at lower levels, you can use a head lock throw in wrestling and go straight into the head lock submission. The reason it works is because you land on them in throw (taking the air out of their lungs) and then you go North and wretched the head up, while laying as much as you can on the Chest. My son uses it in Jui-jitsu class frequently enough. Kids panick from the throw, and once he cranks the head kids usually tap. Sometimes they tap on throw because he lands on the chest, knocking the wind out of them. At low levels, the headlock throw is a very high percentage throw because you can work it off the double or single and the timing is easy for kids to pick up. At higher levels, it just depends on the opponent and how well they shoot. People don't expect it. It shouldn't be a go to but is a nice back pocket submission combination. I thought it was something I just made up. But I've seen the combination done in wrestling and sambo which made me feel better that it was a legit combo move. BJJ just doesn't wrestle enough from the standing throw to examine these combinations because they are not awarded very many points for throwing opponents in tournaments. Westling and sambo it is a 4 point throw.
well done! Ouss!
Ty
Coach, I was really hoping to string this along with the dual arm bar you show in "Key Side Control Attack Details" since it is a safe sub attempt, but the headlock escape to side control leaves the bottom player's arms in a slightly different position. Any suggestions to go from the position the escape leaves you in into the dual arm-bar? Thanks so much, big fan, love all your videos!
Thx
Holy shit! That's Ethan from B Team!?😂
Dude I was wondering that lmao I think it is. I think he's from Canada so it makes sense
Hold up is that Ethan from the former DDS??
What if they're too heavy to roll?
kesa gatame is awesome!
Coach
What if he uses his left hand?
You showed it with his right hand
Much respect to Firas! However, I must raise a point here. It seems that most BJJ guys have a very low opinion of this position. I think the reason for this is that most BJJ guys don't do this technique very well, so therefore it's easy for their partner (who is also a BJJ guy) to counter. Most BJJ guys make the mistake of sitting on the floor when in this position. Instead, you should lift your hips off the floor and slide your weight down so that your upper back is on his chest, with your hips moving almost north of his head. Watch how Josh Barnett does it against dean Lister. Notice how he is not sitting on the floor at all, but lifting his hips up and away so that he is grinding all of his weight down into Dean's chest. Furthermore, he is moving his centre of gravity away from Dean, making it much harder to be bridged. This technique is more subtle than most people think.
In this video, both Firas and his partner are sitting on the floor. I would very interested to see if these escapes would work against a strong wrestler who is doing it properly. The knee in the back thing looks very interesting and I think it would prevent the chest compression sub, but I don't know about the bridging escape. In my limited experience, you can't bridge a guy from that position if he's doing it properly by using a strong base with his hips off the floor. I could be wrong, but I would like to see this demonstrated against proper technique.
What if he’s like super heavy? I’m 135lb sometimes training with 200lb
Everything up to 4:05 is very cool, I will need to try it. Another great way is to turn into him and wrap your left leg around his left leg and then roll him over you. Either way, if your against a good wrestler there's no guarantee.
For your move after 4:05 to work consistently you would need to be wrestling a very incompetent and/or exhausted wrestler. But very cool video.
If the opponent on top knows what is he doing, he can kimura the player trying to escape. Check bjj fanatics scarf hold video for reference.
Coach did you delete youre gut wrench video?
Besides the great Jiu Jitsu techniques, you would prob be a great chiropractor with those lock, compression, limb pulls!
ah but how do you take his back!
Hmmm, the way I'd do the headlock doesn't look anywhere like that one.
Think it's a bit harder to get out of.
From sidecontrol I put my right arm around your neck.
My head goes outside your right arm and push it over your own neck.
My left hand locks with my right hand.
Then I climb my leg up "over" your shoulders and then I lift your head so your chin presses against your arm and chokes you out.
The headlock you showed there is pretty ineffective.
I hope I described it so you understand what I mean.
The efficiency of that headlock is that when you bridge you actually choke yourself out faster as it increases the pressure on your throat.
So it isn't much pressure on your chest so the bridging is pretty useless.
If you ain't using it I hope it gives you another tool to win.
Does this work against a judo-style kesa gatame aswell? Because the judo guys don't try to tap you, but just control you, without giving any chance to move.
Wisstihrwas yeah it works there's a lot of ways to get out of that position though
Is this young Ethan Crelinstein?
Today, I mean a few hours earlier I was rollin with a wrestler..after 8 or 9 mins I made a mistake and he got me into this headlock. I tried to bridge and sweep him the way its shown here but he had a tight solid grip and finally I tapped. He was 9kg heavier and most of the time using power to break away from my guard or submissions attempts such as armlock and once a rear naked choke (that was embarassing)... Him being heavier was not an excuse as Ive seen many BJJ guys submitting much heavier opponents. Anyway it didnt work for me this time.
Raj Singh hey buddy nice try! Next time chase him in the same direction. Think Homer Simpson running on the ground lol. Once to catch up use your left leg to hook his left leg. Once I get that hook I pop up to my knees. You're already behind him and he cannot throw you back down.
There is a Kimura if top brings elbow to ear from underhook.
There’s an easier way to do this that you learn in wrestling, it doesn’t involve a bridge. If you’re wrestling a wrestler who does headlocks a lot the bridge probably won’t work, most wrestlers are gonna hip down without needing to post their arm. A better way imo is to circle your hips and legs towards him and then throwing a leg in, locking your hands together and rolling through backwards.he will be pushing into you so his momentum will carry him over you. If you have a leg thrown in then he can’t flip his hips and the chance of rolling through are much better, plus you are on his back, after you have rolled through. If that makes sense
R DULA exactly. Think Homer Simpson running on the ground in circles. Once you catch him hook his left leg with your left leg. You can pop up to a knee once that hook is in and he can't throw you back down.
My horse hammies will never allow that much bridge 😂
If you get caught in this position, that means you fucked up a long time ago :P
Why not just rotate until he loses his angle, then free back
Fucking genius.
Does this work for wrestling if your trying not to get pinned
Nathaniel Medici yeah but I teach a little different and wrestling I push off the back so he posts and then I can scoot my hips into him, then the Exact same process of pushing them over by bridging them over
Fight wrestling moves with wrestling moves..lol. Good way to counter the headlock.
chatwithpauly no it's not, I've wrestled for quite some time and very bad wrestlers won't let some of the best wrestlers pull this crap on them
his kesa gatame is all wrong! i am quite disappointed. :(
in kesa gatame you need to have a leg post at about 11 or 12 o clock and that prevents the bridge.
the leg frame is definitely interesting but i am not sure about doing bridge if the guy actually has a decent kesa gatame with the post
That’s Ethan crenstein
Long live GSP
That's not a mere headlock, that's kesa gatame. Good luck getting out of that if you're fighting a good judo player.
+profd65 or wrestler
Stoney Lonsome
Pfff...OK. Go down to your local judo school and give it a try. Or as Latino Samurai says, give it a try against a good wrestler. Enjoy the cauliflower ear. The position shown in the thumbnail is one you don't want to be in.
+profd65 Lol. This dude trains GSP at Tristar. I roll wrestlers and judo guys with this easily. Next, you frame their neck when you're on top, break the grip and either crush their ribs with a knee on belly while hitting the arm bar or establish side control.
Another idiot rambling here the stuff he doesn't know about. The Jiujitsu Kesa Gatame is a modified version of this Judo control where you have the underhook on the far hands and it was created because the judo/wrestler control was faulty in that a jiujitsu guy can easily take your back if he knows what he is doing as demonstrated in this video by Firas.
No at the highest level olympic wrestlers can't get out of a strong headlock once it's in and locked up. 1. His partner isn't holding the headlock properly for a wrestling headlock, he shouldn't give the underhook up on the side holding the arm, it's a worse position and it's harder to get into and easy to move the arm into the headlock encircled with the head and arm where the number of submissions are a lot higher and it's much harder to escape. 2. The guy on top never has to relax he's squeezing the air out of your chest and you're getting crushed. 3. If you frame there are lots of ways he can break your frame just by moving toward your face for a second and then rolling you back up with momentum. Everyone tries this framing trick on me and I still finish this hold, I was told to stop doing it because it's a "neck crank". I think it's not because you're lifting their shoulder too. 4. If he can't break the frame (really he should practice breaking the frame because it's pretty easy) all he has to do is push your own arm over your face (assuming he is holding the arm correctly, unlike in this video) If he can push that arm across his own face he can just do a nasty air choke. 5. If you relax he can also transition to put his chest on your face and just smash with his chest until you tap, it'll compress your nose shut and you'll have to mouth breathe with your airway obstructed while you're fighting this hold. He can also grind his face into yours these are nasty techniques that are all legal in most tournaments.
This is probably the most dominant hold in jiujitsu that isn't a submission in and of itself. It's almost a submission by itself and it can be thrown from standing and you won't have a chance to frame up before he leans back.
Your best bet is probably to push the face and create space to hip escape. Even the traditional wrestling escapes, hooking the leg and rolling through or walking your legs away, won't work at the higher levels a good wrestler is just going to adjust with you and you're getting more tired than he is. I could hold someone my size there for 15 minutes easily if they didn't tap from the chest compression.
Is that a fucking young Ethan Crelinsten?
Another great video! I think one important difference on why Barnett was able to tap Lister with this headlock was because he kept his arm under Dean's elbow with his hands locked (so Dean can't lock his hands around Barnett's waist for the bridge and roll) giving him intense pressure and preventing Dean's escaping the elbow. at 8:15 ua-cam.com/video/TDhW6ERd2dU/v-deo.html
Once the head and arm is acquired, the arm never gets tucked to the body. Its either pinned at the hip by the back of the elbow using the hand, or put across the face and locked arms around the head and arm. That's how wrestling teaches that technique. That's not a wrestling head lock. I want to see someone get out of the wrestling football grip front headlock. When done properly. "Elbows in tight and back of the head between the breast plates."
Nice techniques coach! However I don't think it would be effective for low level guys against decent wrestlers. You won't re roll a decent wrestler and if you go right to your knees you risk getting tossed again.
What I have success doing is mimicking technique number two. Once I get on my side I chase my legs after him in the same direction. Think Homer Simpson's on the floor. Once I catch him I'll use my left leg to reach over and hook his left leg. Once I have that hook THEN I pop up to a knee. You pretty much have his back at that point and the leverage to throw you back down is gone.
you got to make sure you are venoumasly good because a wrestler has had the headlock perfected especially a world class wrestler an average wrestler is bad enough to be against within seconds a wrestler will have you chocked out especially on the street with pavement and concrete where a wrestler thrives ... check my video against a bjj student headlock is where I went naturally
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damn you speak turbo fast in this clip bro i actually cant catch a lot of your words
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First off, it's not a headlock. Secondly, go to a Judo class..
First if you are going to show an escape from a headlock learn how to run a headlock right. A wrestler would never hold a headlock like that.
Of course it is easily possible to escape a kesagatame / headlock that is applied in the worst way possible. Your method only shows, what beginners mistakes are to avoid when applying such a hold. Your timid and overly compliant student is not playing a really convincing opponent, who actually wants to keep you down, choke you out or make you submit. Didn't you say it is a heavy opponents game? Why then would you demonstrate this escape with a junior cruiserweight opponent? I could cough this one off my chest without "bridging" or anything of that sort. Try these fancy contortions with a 200+ pounds wrestler and you will be put to shame.
A few things you guys should know when it comes to a kesagatame (if you listen to coach Firas, you are going to get squashed trying to "bridge" your way out of it and your neck is likely to be injured)
- Do not wait for your opponent "to relax". That is just not going to happen, if that guy is serious about it. He is going to make your neck hurt, choke you out or armbar the living shit out of you.
- Do not expect your opponent to keep his upper body and face so compliantly within your reach. An experienced wrestler will keep his head and torso down to avoid being poked in the eyes or grabbed by the neck/hair in streetfights. Further you are way less likely to flip him because of a more sensible weight distribution when he keeps his head down.
- Your opponent is going to put pressure on your neck, not on your chest - why would he even do that? It is way easier to attack the neck and will give you way less leverage to flip him because he is not pulling you up but ensnaring your neck like a boa constrictor
That being said, if such a hold is decently applied, it is not likely for you to ever get out - so tap out instead of endangering yourself, if in a sporting competition. If in a self defense situation, you should rather go for nerve pressure and other "dirty" tricks, because staying alive is not a matter of style.
If you are looking for further self defense tatctis, please refer to selfe defense experts - not to sportsmen (with all due respect, BJJ is hardly a martial art) that forbid powerbombs in their tournaments so you can armbar your opponents dangling in the air like a bag of wet clothes. I do respect the discipline of BJJ as a sport, but it is way overhyped and does not offer sensible street fighting advice in most cases.
I never waste my time replying to this sort of nonsense, but hey, i'm at work killing time at the moment so why not.
firstly; i'm 196cm and my weight ranges from 110-125kg which is to say, i'm one of those big guys that uses kesa very effectively. I've also won gold at Grappling Industries in my weight division, so while i'm not a top tier grappler, i can hold my own against most players
While there are a number of escapes from kesa that i personally use, most of them are based around this type of unbalancing sweep
They work. Period. I do it to others, they do it to me.
We do not drop our weight to the neck because you need to let their bottom arm go free, and you can't hold a skilled player down like that, and it's LESS uncomfortable. A pure headlock is nowhere near as effective and it's much less controlling. This move is a chest compression, it inhibits breathing if done correctly, during a tussle with elevated breathing this can make you tap.
The fact that you think grappling isn't a martial art (wrestling was THE first martial art) and the fact that you think someone who does self defence would actually be better at this situation, which grapplers specialise in, tells me you don't understand the first thing about it.
As for your 'dirty tactics' i would love to show you first hand just how ineffective that rubbish is against a proper grappler.
The best fighters in the world still get taken to the ground and smashed, and you think a dirty knee to the groin or poke to the eye is actually a viable option?
Stick to something you know if you want to comment, right now you're just showing your ignorance
Nodus Bor- You were making some good points but you went too far when you said that BJJ is hardly a martial art. Though I will agree that the recent lean towards sport has created a lot of bad habits.