Something that I haven’t seen people addressing is that the “audio log” in the room with the ride fight isn’t actually a recording. It doesn’t show the typical sheet of paper in the corner like with all the other audio logs, but instead provides captions on the bottom of the screen like the regular speaking dialogue (a similar effect can be seen in the chapter two update, when the music studio’s audio log cuts off, the sheet fades away, and then Sammy himself says “I said can I get an amen?”). When first playing this chapter it made me think that Bertrum’s fight was going to begin, but the randomized movement of the ride is very good evidence that it is not possessed. Maybe Bertrum is speaking to Henry from another area (where he can’t really see that Henry isn’t Joey) and activating the ride from there.
Brad 17 but all recordings have the transcript on the side of the screen, this one is different... a speaker shouldn’t be the reason this is the only tape like this
Henry : _(makes a cute new cartoon character)_ Joey : "ew too kawaii, disgusting, *DENIED !"* Also Joey : _(secretly steals the idea and changes the cute lil smile to one set of cartoon teeth like a Chad)_
Personally, I feel that the ride IS Bertrum. After all, the ride itself is a cage in a way as you can see Bertrum's head uncomfortably trapped within it. The reason as to why Bertrum isn't exactly aiming correctly is the possibility of his mind being too "corrupted". We've seen that the Lost Ones aren't exactly sane, one of them was smashing their head in the wall with incredible force after all. Plus, I feel it has something to do with possible limitations the ride itself has. It is possible that the arms are "fixed" in a way making it hard to hit someone who has complete freedom of movement. That was my first assumption upon seeing him for the first time. For the audio cue, well, Bertrum was simply in a dormant state until the sound of his own voice woke him up. There's not a lot to do when you're trapped in a ride for decades, sleep might be the only freedom you have.
Henry: makes cute demon: “here’s a cool idea I made mr drew!” Joey:”it sucks” Joey: creates a horrifying demonic inky soulless abyssal creature: “now THATS more like it!”
While i think your analisis of Bertrum is amazing, i have a few issues with the theory of what the octopus ride really is. Bertrum was very proud of his job, he saw his creations as his own children, and Bendy Land would be the single biggest thing he had ever done. The last thing Bertrum wanted was to see it fail, he wanted his archivement to succeed, but he wanted it to be HIS archivement. Bertrum hated Joey but he didn't want him dead, he wanted to show him a lesson and prove his dominance. Besides, Joey choosing to silence Bertrum (if he saw something he shouldn't have) turning him into an octopus ride made sense acording to his plan. He wanted mindless ink slaves who would work for nothing, he wanted real looking cartoons to make his theme park a world sensation and he would definetly want an atraction with no need to be maintained. Or perhaps turning Bertrum into a theme ride would be part of Joey's trend of ironic punishments for everyone who oposes him. I dunno if you will answer but everyone else who has any take on this is welcome to reply.
It's absolutely fine to disagree with my ideas. They are just fun theories I come up with and I like to think I explain how I got there, but you guys are well to your own ideas for the story. It's fun to think about, i'm simply sharing my observations with the community.
SuperHorrorBro Oh my god, two people expressing their differing points of view in a polite and mature way on a social platform, without need to jump at each other's throat! My faith in mankind and UA-cam has been restored a little. If I hadn't subscribed to your channel already, I could do that for this alone.
@@headisclean9834 Umm...Bendy isn't Joey. Joey doesn't have a coffin anywhere inside the studio, meaning he hadn't ever been ritualized into an Ink-Creature. Bendy was the first creation to ever come out of the ink machine. When he came out the way he did, they tried to dispose of him, and when Henry came back and turned the machine back on, he reanimated Bendy's remains.
We knew bendy land would be a thing as grant says “I heard mr drew had a new idea and it sure ain’t gonna be cheap”Disney land cost a lot of money to build witch would mean that he’s referring to bendy land
I for one actually thought the Bertrum Ride was supposed to have a voice, like it was truly possessed. It wouldn't react to Henry himself ( I think they didn't even got to know each other), rather it would react thinking anyone who got trapped in the room to be Joey Drew. It's mouth move a bit when defeat, like was coughing, but no sound was heard, so give space to an update of design like they did for the first chapters.
There’s a giant face in the middle of the machine that you didn’t even mention but used as a picture to put on screen when talking about Bertrum. I think Bertrum is controlling it. Here are the reasons. 1) The way he attacks is probably because how the fight is positioned, rather than any lore. You can easily not get hit by just standing away from the swinging arms, so why would they make the arms track you? It would just follow you around while not actually doing anything. I’m pretty sure this fight was just made as a “only get close to it when it’s vulnerable” fight so they made the arms swing randomly around to deter you from going near, and inducing a sense of a threat of you. 2) As I said first, there’s literally a giant head in the ride. A face that even you used to put on screen when you were talking about Bertrum, meaning you think that’s him. If he built the ride to be controlled by an AI, why would he put a giant, deformed face in it? It’s probably Bertrums dead body deformed by the ink, and he then went on to posses the ride. 3) I saw some other comments here say this, so props to them. But when you play the audio log that starts the fight, it’s in white captions on the bottom of the screen, instead of a note page with Bertrums name on the left like how the logs usually are. The white captions are used when someone physical in the game is talking to Henry (Like Sammy, and Alice Angel does). The fact that Bertrum speaks with white captions means that he is THERE, in the room, talking to Henry. And where else could he be but inside the ride? Since it isn’t a recording, unless Bertrum is somehow still alive somewhere, the only reason why the ride activated is because Bertrum is controlling the ride. 4) Bertrum seems to only have a grudge with Joey. If his plan were to make the ride malfunction on purpose in Bendy Land, yes that would probably get Bendy Land shut down due to harming people, but it would hurt Bertrums reputation as an engineer WAY more than it will hurt Joeys. Realistically, when a amusement park shuts down because one of the many rides created by a person malfunctions, the designer/engineer is the one at fault, not the park owners. Joey could’ve easily removed that one ride that Bertrum made to malfunction, and reopened Bendy Land with the rest of the rides no problem. I think Bertrum would know that wouldn’t work. Also, knowing that Bertrum has a big ego and is proud to be known as one of the greatest park designers, would he really throw all of his life’s hard work and reputation away just so he can fail at getting revenge? No. What happened, is that this ride was supposed to be a normal ride, but Bertrum died somehow in the studio, and possessed it with the hatred for Joey still in him.
Ps I think burtrum’s fate was when joey said he wanted to “get rid” of him He threw him inside the ride and the gears bulged in him making him active Then the flood started Witch bloated him Making his head huge
You know Bertram could have also known about the ink machine through his partnership with Joey Drew so maybe some possessed ink is involved in the ride as well maybe not his soul maybe so someone from the R&D department that combined with his advanced robotics knowledge just makes too much sense
PSI Rockin ok let me explain because the fact that the face in the ride is clearly shown breathing that made me think that's some of the possessed ink from the ink machine was involved in its creation meaning Ida Bertram knew about the ink machine from Joey Drew himself that being he shared the information of it during the construction of bendy land through their business partnership or giving bertrams technical skills he built the death trap of a ride Joey found out and involved him in the experiments with the ink machine fusing him with the ride and waiting for it to be reactivated via the audio recording
PSI Rockin ok I Never Said specifically that it was or wasn't Bertram I was just giving my own ideas towards super horrible bro Mike's video above and then layer Clarifying when you asked me to when you don't understand watch the video
In the Dreams Come to Life novel, Joey actually announces his colleague as Bertie. Bertrum obviously doesn’t like being called Bertie, like he’s Joey’s child. And Joey also announces the creation of Bendyland coming together, ready to soon be alive. Who wouldn’t get angry if a man were to take what’s yours and claim it as his? Joey acted like Bendyland was all him. Bertrum did nothing but model. Drew acted like it was his imagination, his dreams coming to life. And only his dreams.
Wait so if Henry as been exposed to this much ink and also when you die in the game Henry is going down a ink womb could this mean he is a ink monster now?
I think it's possible that Bertrum is the giant hand that follows you in the boat ride. Inside Bendy Land there are similar giant hands near the ceiling used as decorations. It could be that Bertrum has become a colossal entity as well. There might even be some poetic tragedy at play here. Bertrum builds a ride with a nightmarish face of Joey Drew - (I think the face looks like a younger, albeit bug-eyed, Joey Drew, one of the few characters who is actually given a face in the game.) - The ride is more of a representation of the flailing monster Joey Drew is. Joey Drew, appears fun and friendly on the outside, a visual promise of a good time. Then is revealed to be a danger to all around him. Thrashing and pounding in a repeat pattern, unable to change his method no matter how hard he gets hit. Then, quid-pro-quo, Bertrum is transformed into a similar crushing hand that will drag you down into hell. A man concerned with his own greatness and fearing a life in the shadow of Joey Drew. Desperate to be recognized for his marvels. Ultimately he resides in the bottom most depths of another person's vision. As an unnamed abomination.
@@trustmeidontlie1906 The workers were killed in order to be reborn as ink-creatures. Grant, Norman, Susie, and Tom all have coffins, yet all of them had become ink-creatures at some point. Him being dead doesn't actually mean anything.
You are correct. Bertrum _is actually_ the head inside the ride, so he _is_ controlling it. That's even hinted at when the recording ends with him exclaiming "I'm still here!", right before he awakens and reveals his face.
It’s 30 years and - he was like 50 then telling by his voice - so he’s 80 - and no things happend - ether he’s been waiting for a long time and is just waiting by the remote - or he’s - YA HES DEAD XD
wait let me make it right- Ink Demon=Joey Drew. Alice Angel=Suzie Campbell. Boris=Wally Franks. Lost Ones=Old Workers. Projectionist=Norman Polk. Sammy Lawrence=Sammy Lawrence?? Allison Angel=Allison Pendle. Tom=Thomas Connor. AM I RIGHT??
It was stated by characters like both Alice Angels that sometimes when they reincarnated, they weren't always completely there in the head and/or had different bodies. I assumed it was Bertrum actually talking because it had subtitles like any other actual character talking to you. Otherwise audio recordings got a transcript instead. I think part of him probably did reincarnate into or possess the ride, but he either was barely cognizant, if at all. The projectionist monster is also allegedly Norman Polk, which seemingly has no intelligence left beyond acting in impulse to kill everything in its light. Though this video is still interesting. Seems like the whole game is almost entirely open to interpretation.
HI MIKE!! Thank you for doing this episode! I have been really wanting to know, as I really like backstories, especially with backstories with accidents that went wrong.
0:06 if that’s the map of bendy land, then we have ALOT more of this theme park. because I don’t think that WHOLE map is chapter four, if it isn’t. is it a map of the studio? or another theme park? because in chapter four, bertrum piedmont says he has multiple theme parks (I think), but what If it’s none of these? what if it’s something else? what if it’s the highest floor? also how were we supposed to get to the other floors of the studio? there was no elevator in chapter 1 (I think.) I didn’t see one, did someone else? Also, what if that’s not even a map? it could be anything, I think it’s a map though. I don’t know for sure, what is is, or if it’s even a map.
I believe it is a map of the theme park. But they barely got to build any of it so when everything went downhill all at once the pieces of the park were supposed to be stored inside of the studio until further notice
One minor catch that lends a shred of doubt, however: Out of all the audio logs, the one Piedmont leaves at the site of his machine doesn't actually play. Watch closely, and you'll see that the tape machine, unlike all others in the game, is not animating as the voice plays.
I think that only part of Bertrum’s soul is in the machine. Like all his rage and vengefulness possess it. This could be because Bertrum wanted to finally see the man he loathed for so long to be put to rest by the creation he stole from him. However, he can’t really comprehend who is and isn’t Joey because the part of his soul that entered the ride was the angry and prideful part. He is blinded by rage, which is why his attacks are uncoordinated and don’t really aim for Henry. This also could be why that searcher seemed so afraid and upset. That is the soft part of his soul. The part that just wants to leave and go home. You’d think that if Bertrum became an ink monster he’d be more angry and would try to wreck everything, after all he was a pretty stubborn and prideful man. Even if he was just afraid of Bendy, you’d think some of his arrogant attitude would stay with him, right? But instead he’s cowering and crying and saying he wants to go home. I believe that’s a part of Bertrum that was deep inside him. He acted all arrogant and powerful when he was really just afraid of Joey stealing everything from him and ruining his image. It’s not that great of a theory and I’m not really bright when it comes to theories like this. Interesting video though, you’re much better at theorizing than I am 😅
The coffin in chapter 2 using the seeing eye tool, it shows Bertram’s name on it, which could only mean, that Bertram has passed away, along with lacie Benton
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That is a really good theory ! And also Bertrum is from bendy land so the secret you can ride on betriums arm is the rideing nachine , in other ways you're right | you're videos are awesome 👍
Hey Mike I've been thinking, did Thomas Conner quit or not because his audio log from ch1 said that he wouldn't be working for Joey anymore but in chapter 3 we found other audio logs where he is working at the studio, if he were to quit then it would explain why he was teaching Wally Franks what to do for the pressure and pipes because Thomas would leave soon and he wants wally to look after things when he is gone until Joey found another repair man. What do you think?
Probably because the audio logs aren't in order of time. I mean, that could be obvious. Sammy's first audio log seems to be after the creation of the ink demon, since sammy is worshipping bendy. The next audio log of Sammy seems to be right after the ink machine was put in place
Haven't fully watched the video yet, but I'm pretty sure the ride isn't him: It's a side thing he built out of spite to sabatoge Joey, making Bertrum one of the few to completely avoid the downfall.
Also, Bertrum says "You may think I'm gone, but I'm STILL HERE!" So if that's ink that's squirting out of the machine, thereby meaning the machine is alive, doesn't that mean it really is Bertrum?
I agree because the audio tape says “oh mr. drew, you are the true architect behind so many nightmares” notice that he says “you” as if he is directing it toward Joey
Have you heard that sammy said this in The Last Reel? (C5) "Ah, You lied to me... You said i'd be free! Well i'm going to free you now, Free your head right off your shoulders! Sheep, Sheep, Sheep, It's time for.... Sleep.."
Well, then why does the voice from his audio log next to the attraction translate to text at the bottom of the screen as if he was really present and speaking, rather than appearing in a box off to the side? It would only make sense if Bertram was present and inside the attraction.
This... This changed everything. 😮😮😮. Maybe we can meet him in person in final chapter.And if that true... What fates await??? An awesome video to finished my day. 😉Keep it up. Looking forward to the next video. 😉
jayjai426 Hmmm... Did you really wacht the video? Because SuperHorrorBro says that that attraction isn't life with Betreim soul. Rather than a machine that designed to revenge Joe Drew. Take a listen 7:09-10:22.
It could be that Bertrum built the ride to purposely malfunction and when Joey found out, he put Bertrum through the machine and turned him into the ride.
Bertum made it clear that no matter what, the achievement would be HIS, and not Joey's. So I dont think he would purposefully ruin his greatest life's work. I dont think Joey out Bertrum in the machine either. From the way Bertrin spoke, it's like he expected Joey to not know he was still there. I think Through the ink, he had ended up inhabiting the machine.
So basically as we keep finishing the same game the evolution keeps going higher I want to see the secret evolution poor Bertrum he was bullied by joey first
My theory about this is that Joey actually killed Bertrum, because Bertrum had a little bit of personality and he would notice how Joey was treating him and wouldn't hesitate to complain about that, so then Joey wanted to take revenge and glued his head to a *failed* machine that Bertrum made, in a *mockery* way.
Maybe, but the ink probably infected the machine and the head. Cause that's way to big to be a regular human head. I also dont think the machine was failed. Bertrum was an experienced worker for this stuff. That's why he was hired. The park itself failed because of complications, most likely with the fuckingbvb ink from the ink machine everywhere(thanks slot Mr.Drew)
I think you're definitely right that he made the ride as a trap, but I also do think that Joey, as cruel irony and also to be absolutely controlling, found the best way to silence Bertrum would be to kill him and using the Ink Machine, make him part of the ride that he wanted to use to ruin Joey. Therefore realizing Bertrum's dream, but also ruining /him/ instead. I can't ignore that horrifying face inside the ride, and I do think that really is Bertrum, but completely out of control, due to Joey's influence. Still, good stuff as always. I love your vids!
I wanna say all (that i remember) the Most important characters 1. Henry unkown 2. Joey drew 3. Susie Campbell 4. Allison pendell 5. Wally franks 6. Thomas connor 7. Shawn Flynn 8. Grant cohen 9. Bertrum piedmont 10. Sammy Lawrence 11. Norman polk Thats all that i remember so comment if i missed someone
Interesting. I don’t believe this is true but it’s an intriguing possibility. Maybe the real Bertrum is the one adressesed in the Shadows And Suffering achievement?
Do you think the giant hand in the river was also one of Bertrum's works? When you enter the design room, you can see a giant arm, is this possible that the giant arm was Bertrum's too?
I'm commenting this at 1:30 in to the video so I dont know if he already said this but: we see in Bertrum Piedmont's audio log on the Joey Drew studios website, that he recorded it in 1940, so since he'd been making rides for 40 years, he likely started his career in 1900.
Something that I haven’t seen people addressing is that the “audio log” in the room with the ride fight isn’t actually a recording. It doesn’t show the typical sheet of paper in the corner like with all the other audio logs, but instead provides captions on the bottom of the screen like the regular speaking dialogue (a similar effect can be seen in the chapter two update, when the music studio’s audio log cuts off, the sheet fades away, and then Sammy himself says “I said can I get an amen?”). When first playing this chapter it made me think that Bertrum’s fight was going to begin, but the randomized movement of the ride is very good evidence that it is not possessed. Maybe Bertrum is speaking to Henry from another area (where he can’t really see that Henry isn’t Joey) and activating the ride from there.
That's exactly what I was going to say!
Then Bertrum could be killed silently by Bendy thus never haves to be mentioned again.
That’s exactly what I said!
It comes from a speaker connected to the log with a wire take a close look in the fight
Brad 17 but all recordings have the transcript on the side of the screen, this one is different... a speaker shouldn’t be the reason this is the only tape like this
Henry : _(makes a cute new cartoon character)_
Joey : "ew too kawaii, disgusting, *DENIED !"*
Also Joey : _(secretly steals the idea and changes the cute lil smile to one set of cartoon teeth like a Chad)_
😂😂
Joey : perfect
Yeah if they had used the first design the studio would not have gone bankrupt
Joey: “look at this dubious little creature”
DISGUSTING
Personally, I feel that the ride IS Bertrum. After all, the ride itself is a cage in a way as you can see Bertrum's head uncomfortably trapped within it. The reason as to why Bertrum isn't exactly aiming correctly is the possibility of his mind being too "corrupted". We've seen that the Lost Ones aren't exactly sane, one of them was smashing their head in the wall with incredible force after all.
Plus, I feel it has something to do with possible limitations the ride itself has. It is possible that the arms are "fixed" in a way making it hard to hit someone who has complete freedom of movement. That was my first assumption upon seeing him for the first time.
For the audio cue, well, Bertrum was simply in a dormant state until the sound of his own voice woke him up. There's not a lot to do when you're trapped in a ride for decades, sleep might be the only freedom you have.
"Hey Henry,"
"Yup?"
"Can i copy your work?"
"Yeah but change it up a bit."
Joey : Only Change The Cute Smile Into A One Set Teeth Creepy Smile
*"swiggity swooty your damn OC is my damn property m8"*
Bruhh😂😂😂
I think it's more like:
Henry: No.
Joey: I'll copy it anyways.
Henry: makes cute demon: “here’s a cool idea I made mr drew!”
Joey:”it sucks”
Joey: creates a horrifying demonic inky soulless abyssal creature: “now THATS more like it!”
While i think your analisis of Bertrum is amazing, i have a few issues with the theory of what the octopus ride really is.
Bertrum was very proud of his job, he saw his creations as his own children, and Bendy Land would be the single biggest thing he had ever done. The last thing Bertrum wanted was to see it fail, he wanted his archivement to succeed, but he wanted it to be HIS archivement.
Bertrum hated Joey but he didn't want him dead, he wanted to show him a lesson and prove his dominance.
Besides, Joey choosing to silence Bertrum (if he saw something he shouldn't have) turning him into an octopus ride made sense acording to his plan. He wanted mindless ink slaves who would work for nothing, he wanted real looking cartoons to make his theme park a world sensation and he would definetly want an atraction with no need to be maintained.
Or perhaps turning Bertrum into a theme ride would be part of Joey's trend of ironic punishments for everyone who oposes him.
I dunno if you will answer but everyone else who has any take on this is welcome to reply.
It's absolutely fine to disagree with my ideas. They are just fun theories I come up with and I like to think I explain how I got there, but you guys are well to your own ideas for the story. It's fun to think about, i'm simply sharing my observations with the community.
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"Joey Drew may have enslaved these poor workers for his inhumane and bizarre experiments."
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Lmao yea am watching this a year later
So bendy is basically Henry's stolen OC.
charmander54 then Joey liked his design then he changed it up a bit and then turned himself into the bendy
@@headisclean9834 Umm...Bendy isn't Joey. Joey doesn't have a coffin anywhere inside the studio, meaning he hadn't ever been ritualized into an Ink-Creature. Bendy was the first creation to ever come out of the ink machine. When he came out the way he did, they tried to dispose of him, and when Henry came back and turned the machine back on, he reanimated Bendy's remains.
Joey is a t
Art theif 😂
Idk. Maybe
Mander54 yeah I guess
I think that bertrums trap is reason for Joey being in wheelchair
Relja Mirović hold up... u smart my guy didn’t think of that 🧐😂
Sounds possible 😌
But. - HES not in one - HELLO CHAPTER 5 PLAY IT XD
@@presidentdoge4221 but there IS a wheel chair in the cutscene so he was in one once
That annoying face Is back are you stupid, this comment was made before chapter 5
His voice makes me so comfortable for some reason.
Same Actually.
He has a sexy voice
@@nigelxd3735 XD
Ye really comforting
@@asaaxsccz Hmm...
We knew bendy land would be a thing as grant says “I heard mr drew had a new idea and it sure ain’t gonna be cheap”Disney land cost a lot of money to build witch would mean that he’s referring to bendy land
He Could also mean the machine
Having a machine that can create live in piles of ink out of human beings would be pretty pricey as well
I for one actually thought the Bertrum Ride was supposed to have a voice, like it was truly possessed. It wouldn't react to Henry himself ( I think they didn't even got to know each other), rather it would react thinking anyone who got trapped in the room to be Joey Drew. It's mouth move a bit when defeat, like was coughing, but no sound was heard, so give space to an update of design like they did for the first chapters.
So uh.... let’s talk about that Question mark’s ‘transparent’ background at 0:34
wait wtf
XD
Ooooof
Damn son
There’s a giant face in the middle of the machine that you didn’t even mention but used as a picture to put on screen when talking about Bertrum. I think Bertrum is controlling it. Here are the reasons.
1) The way he attacks is probably because how the fight is positioned, rather than any lore. You can easily not get hit by just standing away from the swinging arms, so why would they make the arms track you? It would just follow you around while not actually doing anything. I’m pretty sure this fight was just made as a “only get close to it when it’s vulnerable” fight so they made the arms swing randomly around to deter you from going near, and inducing a sense of a threat of you.
2) As I said first, there’s literally a giant head in the ride. A face that even you used to put on screen when you were talking about Bertrum, meaning you think that’s him. If he built the ride to be controlled by an AI, why would he put a giant, deformed face in it? It’s probably Bertrums dead body deformed by the ink, and he then went on to posses the ride.
3) I saw some other comments here say this, so props to them. But when you play the audio log that starts the fight, it’s in white captions on the bottom of the screen, instead of a note page with Bertrums name on the left like how the logs usually are. The white captions are used when someone physical in the game is talking to Henry (Like Sammy, and Alice Angel does). The fact that Bertrum speaks with white captions means that he is THERE, in the room, talking to Henry. And where else could he be but inside the ride? Since it isn’t a recording, unless Bertrum is somehow still alive somewhere, the only reason why the ride activated is because Bertrum is controlling the ride.
4) Bertrum seems to only have a grudge with Joey. If his plan were to make the ride malfunction on purpose in Bendy Land, yes that would probably get Bendy Land shut down due to harming people, but it would hurt Bertrums reputation as an engineer WAY more than it will hurt Joeys. Realistically, when a amusement park shuts down because one of the many rides created by a person malfunctions, the designer/engineer is the one at fault, not the park owners. Joey could’ve easily removed that one ride that Bertrum made to malfunction, and reopened Bendy Land with the rest of the rides no problem. I think Bertrum would know that wouldn’t work. Also, knowing that Bertrum has a big ego and is proud to be known as one of the greatest park designers, would he really throw all of his life’s hard work and reputation away just so he can fail at getting revenge? No.
What happened, is that this ride was supposed to be a normal ride, but Bertrum died somehow in the studio, and possessed it with the hatred for Joey still in him.
Sheesh why no replies
You are one of the smartest people I know
Yeah and why would he think ai be used were talking about the 1930s but
ur so right lol, i have no idea why he didnt mention the face in the ride. i really enjoy SHB but this whole vid feels like grasping at straws
3:05 I thought he was going to say "the great *papyrus* "
I like how this guy thinks
So did I
Yes
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Your theories never fail to impress me. I'm glad there's people like you who make awesome theories!!!
This is actually pretty a very interesting theory and your points are valid. Your accent makes listening to your theories 5000× better! Great video!
Did anyone notice during Lacie Benton's voice part that there was crying in the background?
There’s a crying Lost One in the hallway leading to that room.
I heard that to pretty weird right
I wonder why someone was crying
I wonder who was crying
Guys it was one of the passive inky monsters that cry sometimes. It was not part of the recording
Ps
I think burtrum’s fate was when joey said he wanted to “get rid” of him
He threw him inside the ride and the gears bulged in him making him active
Then the flood started
Witch bloated him
Making his head huge
makes sense
Perhaps
I thought he was inked and then made into the octo ride
Joey is evil
But he's not that evil
No.
No human could naturally become a living head of that ridiculous size.
You know Bertram could have also known about the ink machine through his partnership with Joey Drew so maybe some possessed ink is involved in the ride as well maybe not his soul maybe so someone from the R&D department that combined with his advanced robotics knowledge just makes too much sense
PSI Rockin ok let me explain because the fact that the face in the ride is clearly shown breathing that made me think that's some of the possessed ink from the ink machine was involved in its creation meaning Ida Bertram knew about the ink machine from Joey Drew himself that being he shared the information of it during the construction of bendy land through their business partnership or giving bertrams technical skills he built the death trap of a ride Joey found out and involved him in the experiments with the ink machine fusing him with the ride and waiting for it to be reactivated via the audio recording
PSI Rockin ok I Never Said specifically that it was or wasn't Bertram I was just giving my own ideas towards super horrible bro Mike's video above and then layer Clarifying when you asked me to when you don't understand watch the video
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what makes me sad is hearing the lost ones cry
that just destroys my heart like jeez
Yeah
What is ur pfp
@@RickyRat256 female jack Kennedy from dsaf lol
I should probably change it because it’s old art, huh.
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In the Dreams Come to Life novel, Joey actually announces his colleague as Bertie. Bertrum obviously doesn’t like being called Bertie, like he’s Joey’s child.
And Joey also announces the creation of Bendyland coming together, ready to soon be alive. Who wouldn’t get angry if a man were to take what’s yours and claim it as his?
Joey acted like Bendyland was all him. Bertrum did nothing but model. Drew acted like it was his imagination, his dreams coming to life.
And only his dreams.
Wait so if Henry as been exposed to this much ink and also when you die in the game Henry is going down a ink womb could this mean he is a ink monster now?
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@@ItsTheCloudy still here
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I think it's possible that Bertrum is the giant hand that follows you in the boat ride. Inside Bendy Land there are similar giant hands near the ceiling used as decorations. It could be that Bertrum has become a colossal entity as well. There might even be some poetic tragedy at play here. Bertrum builds a ride with a nightmarish face of Joey Drew - (I think the face looks like a younger, albeit bug-eyed, Joey Drew, one of the few characters who is actually given a face in the game.) - The ride is more of a representation of the flailing monster Joey Drew is. Joey Drew, appears fun and friendly on the outside, a visual promise of a good time. Then is revealed to be a danger to all around him. Thrashing and pounding in a repeat pattern, unable to change his method no matter how hard he gets hit. Then, quid-pro-quo, Bertrum is transformed into a similar crushing hand that will drag you down into hell. A man concerned with his own greatness and fearing a life in the shadow of Joey Drew. Desperate to be recognized for his marvels. Ultimately he resides in the bottom most depths of another person's vision. As an unnamed abomination.
I quite like this theory! I always thought it was strange that he was the flat ride, but this makes more sense! Maybe we'll learn more in BATDR.
I kind of thought Bertrum was possibly controlling the machine.
I also thought that Alice could possibly be controlling it too.
With the new searcher tool you can find a grave with his name on it, so he most likely died.
ScarletteWolf 12 maybe
@@trustmeidontlie1906 The workers were killed in order to be reborn as ink-creatures. Grant, Norman, Susie, and Tom all have coffins, yet all of them had become ink-creatures at some point. Him being dead doesn't actually mean anything.
You are correct. Bertrum _is actually_ the head inside the ride, so he _is_ controlling it. That's even hinted at when the recording ends with him exclaiming "I'm still here!", right before he awakens and reveals his face.
It’s 30 years and - he was like 50 then telling by his voice - so he’s 80 - and no things happend - ether he’s been waiting for a long time and is just waiting by the remote - or he’s - YA HES DEAD XD
wait let me make it right- Ink Demon=Joey Drew. Alice Angel=Suzie Campbell. Boris=Wally Franks. Lost Ones=Old Workers. Projectionist=Norman Polk. Sammy Lawrence=Sammy Lawrence?? Allison Angel=Allison Pendle. Tom=Thomas Connor. AM I RIGHT??
Yes
Yes
Yuppers
What about Lacie and Grant?
No
I think that ink demon bendy does not have a soul
And boris is possessed by buddy, the protagonist of the book dreams come to life
Wow... mind-blown today. GREAT VIDS AS ALWAYS.!
It was stated by characters like both Alice Angels that sometimes when they reincarnated, they weren't always completely there in the head and/or had different bodies. I assumed it was Bertrum actually talking because it had subtitles like any other actual character talking to you. Otherwise audio recordings got a transcript instead. I think part of him probably did reincarnate into or possess the ride, but he either was barely cognizant, if at all. The projectionist monster is also allegedly Norman Polk, which seemingly has no intelligence left beyond acting in impulse to kill everything in its light.
Though this video is still interesting. Seems like the whole game is almost entirely open to interpretation.
that's......THAT'S ACTUALLY AN GOOD THEORY!!!
Thanks!
You're Welcome SuperHorrorBro you are just amazing ^^
Who here can’t wait for chapter 5. Also, when it comes out, which gaming system are you gonna play it on? Xbox, switch, or PS4 or through steam
Theresa you can’t play it on a console
And thats "TOTALLY" good english!
omg i just realized that bendy hand is missing and the other hand looks like the second boris you meets hand 9:41
HI MIKE!! Thank you for doing this episode! I have been really wanting to know, as I really like backstories, especially with backstories with accidents that went wrong.
No problem, glad you enjoyed it and thanks for watching
Mike: The weird and wonderful world of Bendy Land.
Henry: I would like to beg the differ
lol, I agree completely, Little Miss Pacifist!
In Lacie Benton's tape, I heard someone or something crying in the background. Is it supposed to be like that? Is it one of the lost ones?
There’s a crying Lost One in the hallway leading to that room.
Lord Irratikor Ah, makes sense.
Yes, the crying sound was in fact lacie after her transformation. *nerd*
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if that’s the map of bendy land, then we have ALOT more of this theme park. because I don’t think that WHOLE map is chapter four, if it isn’t. is it a map of the studio? or another theme park? because in chapter four, bertrum piedmont says he has multiple theme parks (I think), but what If it’s none of these? what if it’s something else? what if it’s the highest floor? also how were we supposed to get to the other floors of the studio? there was no elevator in chapter 1 (I think.) I didn’t see one, did someone else? Also, what if that’s not even a map? it could be anything, I think it’s a map though. I don’t know for sure, what is is, or if it’s even a map.
I believe it is a map of the theme park. But they barely got to build any of it so when everything went downhill all at once the pieces of the park were supposed to be stored inside of the studio until further notice
God, all your theories are just SO GOOD!
Thanks!
SuperHorrorBro no problem! Just thanks for uploading all these great theories :p
One minor catch that lends a shred of doubt, however: Out of all the audio logs, the one Piedmont leaves at the site of his machine doesn't actually play. Watch closely, and you'll see that the tape machine, unlike all others in the game, is not animating as the voice plays.
I think that only part of Bertrum’s soul is in the machine. Like all his rage and vengefulness possess it. This could be because Bertrum wanted to finally see the man he loathed for so long to be put to rest by the creation he stole from him. However, he can’t really comprehend who is and isn’t Joey because the part of his soul that entered the ride was the angry and prideful part. He is blinded by rage, which is why his attacks are uncoordinated and don’t really aim for Henry. This also could be why that searcher seemed so afraid and upset. That is the soft part of his soul. The part that just wants to leave and go home. You’d think that if Bertrum became an ink monster he’d be more angry and would try to wreck everything, after all he was a pretty stubborn and prideful man. Even if he was just afraid of Bendy, you’d think some of his arrogant attitude would stay with him, right? But instead he’s cowering and crying and saying he wants to go home. I believe that’s a part of Bertrum that was deep inside him. He acted all arrogant and powerful when he was really just afraid of Joey stealing everything from him and ruining his image. It’s not that great of a theory and I’m not really bright when it comes to theories like this. Interesting video though, you’re much better at theorizing than I am 😅
Your Videos are Awesome keep up the good work
The coffin in chapter 2 using the seeing eye tool, it shows Bertram’s name on it, which could only mean, that Bertram has passed away, along with lacie Benton
Good job this makes a lot of sense
11:57 LMAO I REMEMBER THIS GUY BEING A SAD EDITS AUDIO. HAD NO IDEA IT WAS BATIM 😭
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This was honestly the scariest boss level I’ve ever seen
Yeah and to me the most interesting one of the whole characters
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@@Loneli_Ness-x2r I’ll look into it lol
But how come Bendy Land is underground?...
That isn’t actually bendy land it is just the storage place
Those are prototypes.
AlexEpoch lol
Idk
But these are just models
Bertrum is my favorite battle :D, The beginning of the battle is like... DAM :D
Hey mike I love your videos and theories ever and you're theories is awesome
You have a good way to analysis everything little hard to understand i’m french but I really appreciate to learn things about BATIM thanks u so much your theories are amazing
You always have so amazing theory's! You should have billion subscribers! Keep up with good work!👍👍👍👏👏👏
That would be almost a third of the world
We only have 7 billion ppl on earth and counting
Doc. Filipovic That Probably Won't Happen
Doc. Filipovic I agree with you, he has amazing theories🙂
It's theories.
Trey Brewer How you Do you know that? Proof?
Your channel is how i get ANY of my real knowledge of this game and its backstory. Thank you! Keep making videos! :D
That is a really good theory ! And also Bertrum is from bendy land so the secret you can ride on betriums arm is the rideing nachine , in other ways you're right
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But you can find Bertrum and Lacie's coffins in Chapter 2.
Thanks for making this theory
If i have a top hat, i would make a gesture with it
No problem!
SuperHorrorBro by which gesture i shall use if i have a top hat i would tip it for you as a sign of trust and respect
Here you go 🎩
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Raven Bearden Lol I saw Matpat instead of top hat
After 4 years we now know that the swing is actually living because his eyes follow us in BATDR
Hey Mike I've been thinking, did Thomas Conner quit or not because his audio log from ch1 said that he wouldn't be working for Joey anymore but in chapter 3 we found other audio logs where he is working at the studio, if he were to quit then it would explain why he was teaching Wally Franks what to do for the pressure and pipes because Thomas would leave soon and he wants wally to look after things when he is gone until Joey found another repair man. What do you think?
Probably because the audio logs aren't in order of time. I mean, that could be obvious. Sammy's first audio log seems to be after the creation of the ink demon, since sammy is worshipping bendy. The next audio log of Sammy seems to be right after the ink machine was put in place
He escaped
@2:35 that one Lost One just chilling under the BendyLand sign xD
I had on headphones during the mechanichal demon audio log... And I heard a background sound... It was crying. An adult male weeping.
I think its the lost one in the cage next to the audio log
So… Joey just stole bertrum’s project and shoved him in a roller coaster thing? That’s cool!
Hey, at least he is a fun amusement park ride! Even if he is a deadly killing machine now
Would be interesting to see you revisit this given Bertie's head is held among the Cyclebreakers in Dark Revival.
Wow, that seems like a really accurate theory about Bertrum.😀
Superhorrorbro: Bertrum was JUST an architect
Bertrum's audio log: for forty years I've BUILT colossal wonders
Kinda random how he’s just on the ground in BATDR
But then why would the machine keep its face in the direction of henry and react when destroyed if its a failsafe or just a attraction to cause harm?
Huge fan for the bendy theories
Tylerpridmore666 pridemore me too never played but I love the theories
I’ve played chapter one and some of two
Couldn’t finish bc of the lag
When he said you may think I have gone But I'm still here I think he was saying that to joey drew when someone activates that he will turn on
Haven't fully watched the video yet, but I'm pretty sure the ride isn't him: It's a side thing he built out of spite to sabatoge Joey, making Bertrum one of the few to completely avoid the downfall.
Another great job! Hope you're almost ready for chapter 5!
Love ur theories! They r better than any others i see!!!👍👍👍👍👍
At 9:04 you can hear crying in the back round while the tape is on of Lacie Benton
Yeah it sounds like crying
Also, Bertrum says "You may think I'm gone, but I'm STILL HERE!" So if that's ink that's squirting out of the machine, thereby meaning the machine is alive, doesn't that mean it really is Bertrum?
I agree because the audio tape says “oh mr. drew, you are the true architect behind so many nightmares” notice that he says “you” as if he is directing it toward Joey
Have you heard that sammy said this in The Last Reel? (C5)
"Ah, You lied to me... You said i'd be free! Well i'm going to free you now, Free your head right off your shoulders!
Sheep, Sheep, Sheep, It's time for.... Sleep.."
I think I heard that
Best line ever
boi he says that in chap 2 and he almost kills u.
I just realize that "Bendy Land" is really more of a storage room for Bendy Land.
Well, then why does the voice from his audio log next to the attraction translate to text at the bottom of the screen as if he was really present and speaking, rather than appearing in a box off to the side? It would only make sense if Bertram was present and inside the attraction.
Bertrum Piedmont made me think of Carlson Fiddle from Bioshock 2
I think Bertie is the lost one who sitting on a cage under the bendyland sign
He's the octopus ride that you fight.
yeah i agree that Johy has TOTALLY LOST HIS MIND!!!
This... This changed everything. 😮😮😮. Maybe we can meet him in person in final chapter.And if that true... What fates await???
An awesome video to finished my day. 😉Keep it up. Looking forward to the next video. 😉
jayjai426 Hmmm... Did you really wacht the video?
Because SuperHorrorBro says that that attraction isn't life with Betreim soul. Rather than a machine that designed to revenge Joe Drew. Take a listen 7:09-10:22.
11:56
It's...so...sad...
It just breaks my heart...
Wensday November 15th 2023 is the first time ive heard Henry stein's audio log 5:16
It could be that Bertrum built the ride to purposely malfunction and when Joey found out, he put Bertrum through the machine and turned him into the ride.
Bertum made it clear that no matter what, the achievement would be HIS, and not Joey's. So I dont think he would purposefully ruin his greatest life's work. I dont think Joey out Bertrum in the machine either. From the way Bertrin spoke, it's like he expected Joey to not know he was still there. I think Through the ink, he had ended up inhabiting the machine.
I wish we'd know when Ch. 5 trailer is gonna come out??
I love your videos. And I can't wait for Bendy Chapter 5 and your gameplay plus theory's.
Hmmm I think Bertram was some how put in the caristel
So basically as we keep finishing the same game the evolution keeps going higher I want to see the secret evolution poor Bertrum he was bullied by joey first
My theory about this is that Joey actually killed Bertrum, because Bertrum had a little bit of personality and he would notice how Joey was treating him and wouldn't hesitate to complain about that, so then Joey wanted to take revenge and glued his head to a *failed* machine that Bertrum made, in a *mockery* way.
Maybe, but the ink probably infected the machine and the head. Cause that's way to big to be a regular human head. I also dont think the machine was failed. Bertrum was an experienced worker for this stuff. That's why he was hired. The park itself failed because of complications, most likely with the fuckingbvb ink from the ink machine everywhere(thanks slot Mr.Drew)
It’s all clear now 🤟thanks 4clearing this up dude good job
Awsome vid like always
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Silvia Solis ok
It’s also wrong
I think you're definitely right that he made the ride as a trap, but I also do think that Joey, as cruel irony and also to be absolutely controlling, found the best way to silence Bertrum would be to kill him and using the Ink Machine, make him part of the ride that he wanted to use to ruin Joey. Therefore realizing Bertrum's dream, but also ruining /him/ instead. I can't ignore that horrifying face inside the ride, and I do think that really is Bertrum, but completely out of control, due to Joey's influence.
Still, good stuff as always. I love your vids!
When you end a sentence I swear it reminds me of the foot fungus meme
*A D E A D M E M E*
I actually laughed at betrums face in chapter 4 🤣🤣🤣
I wanna say all (that i remember) the Most important characters
1. Henry unkown
2. Joey drew
3. Susie Campbell
4. Allison pendell
5. Wally franks
6. Thomas connor
7. Shawn Flynn
8. Grant cohen
9. Bertrum piedmont
10. Sammy Lawrence
11. Norman polk
Thats all that i remember so comment if i missed someone
Also it dosent count ink characters
And i mean not the Most important srry becsue like grant cohen Norman polk shawn flynn arent really imortant
Interesting. I don’t believe this is true but it’s an intriguing possibility. Maybe the real Bertrum is the one adressesed in the Shadows And Suffering achievement?
Do you think the giant hand in the river was also one of Bertrum's works? When you enter the design room, you can see a giant arm, is this possible that the giant arm was Bertrum's too?
The final recording has subtitles, implying it's in fact, the machine talking to us, and that Bertrum is the machine.
That is a nice boss fight
Was I the only one that found Bertrums death traumatizing? Like seriously his soul and mind was shoved in a amusement park ride!
I LOVE BACKGROUND MUSIC WHAT IS IT CALLED
Edit:also I love your vids
I'm commenting this at 1:30 in to the video so I dont know if he already said this but: we see in Bertrum Piedmont's audio log on the Joey Drew studios website, that he recorded it in 1940, so since he'd been making rides for 40 years, he likely started his career in 1900.
What if batim is a movie with the title being the last reel for chapter 5
Bruh you predicted it