Fake job listings are a growing problem in the labor market
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- Опубліковано 29 бер 2023
- Federal data shows there are more than 10 million job openings across the U.S. But a new report shows not all of those jobs really exist. CBS MoneyWatch associate managing editor Irina Ivanova joined Errol Barnett and Lana Zak to discuss.
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They didn't cover all the reasons for the fake jobs:
- Too lazy to take down a job that is no longer available.
- Find out how easy it is to replace an employee.
- Meet a legal requirement to advertise a job before hiring a visa holder they actually want for cheap.
- To look like the company is growning to potential investors.
- Hoping for a candidate that is perfect, cheap and will replace multiple employees but will never exist in reality.
- To see if they are over or underpaying current employees.
- To placate current employees that they are trying to find someone to help with workload.
- Looking for free work by giving applicants "test work" required with job application.
.... feel free to add to this post.
Busywork for recruiters and HR so they can "gain experience from the interview process."
Did you watch this video to the end? 1 and 7 were 2 of the 3 points she talked about
@@Wigwhom86 I did. I'm trying to list all of them. I'm not saying this list is only those not mentioned.
Steal personal info on applications
@@3nduredj Interesting
The fake job listings needs to stop. People are giving out personal information and get bombarded with spam calls
I literally got one as I read this comment it’s so annoying 🤦🏽♀️, it’s my second one today.
I never felt comfortable inputing my social security number on these mystery application sites
They are selling your information
I had my identity stolen through a fake job listing.
Also, the Emails with someone offering you a 94k a year job. 😂
Posting Ghost Jobs needs to be treated like fraud.
Is Indeed one of them?? And do you know which sites I should avoid while looking for work?
@@franklin8618 Indeed is the job fair equivalent of a brokerage website. All they do is share the information that other companies have provided. Many of the listings are legitimate. But many of them are ghost jobs like being discussed. Your best bet is to look at the company hiring, and then go to that company's website to verify the job is listed there as well.
@Franklin Yes. Indeed is one of them, LinkedIn, glassdoor, zip recruiter, even company sites do it as well etc. You just continue to play the gambling game until you find one.
@@analisapaul7282 Ok. Thanks, Analisa. Appreciate it.
Maybe people should start filing claims against ghost jobs for false advertisement and loss of time
It doesn't help they ask for people with 10+ years for an entry-level job.
Because they don’t want to train
@@osawaruobamwonyi212 they also don’t want to pay for a person with 10 plus years experience. They want to pay “entry level pay” for 10 years experience 🙄🤷🏾♀️
Amen
I think I remember seeing on a video somewhere on UA-cam that many job’s that need 4-8+ years on experience is probably fake and the recruiter is just to lazy to there job forgot which video.
yup
I'm so glad this is out now. Companies get federal funding for "claiming" hirings or posting their "hiring" when there's massive layoffs. The whole "the unemployment number" being low is doctored numbers. The economic number prove otherwise
They dont even count people who haven't been able to get a job in 6 months or multiplr other conditions. True unemployment is probably like 10% atleast.
They'll have to eat that.
@John exactly. See you post "hirings" while not actually hiring makes it seem like you're "hiring," but nobody wants jobs. Which is a lie. All the employment/unemployment numbers are reported to some census. Those numbers can be manipulated by what companies are doing. How do you have record unemployment numbers yet the people filing for unemployment? Are those numbers equal or greater to employment numbers? It's all to conflate. Period.
Like "The Wire", "fudge the stats".
You dont get federal funds for that.
I've done multiple rounds of interviews with multiple companies and nothing. One even ghosted me after 4 rounds of zoom meetings, and 2 phone calls... I'm totally perfectly skilled for said position. Major red flag, but the key is not give up. Don't take it personal. Keep moving forward.
What kind of jobs? Did you pass the technical interviews?
Same thing can be said with rejection from women
@@martinlutherkingjr.5582 Male stripper.
Not just you. It's everywhere. That 10.8 million number is fake. Honestly, there are not many REAL JOBS that are hiring. All companies that I have applied for, aren't hiring. They're just piling up resumes to replace a lot of their poor performing employees.
At some point tho you just get tired
people always saying they cant find workers. yet its so hard to even get a call back.
They're looking for CERTAIN people. That has to be it, only thing I can really think of. They're not desperate for help, they just miss their slaves and want them back.
This is very depressing and infuriating! I've been unemployed since Dec and unable to find a job even though I have spent countless hours applying. I am well qualified for my field and never had an issue w/ jobs until now. If I didn't waste so much time on these "ghost jobs", then perhaps I would've had more time aplying at real jobs.
Right?!! And we also have to sift through the scammers too! Not like the actual applying process isn't painstaking enough! WTF
I've been off work for almost 3 years now and I believe companies dont want to hire anyone with experience because those people want more money and benefits.
@@id10t98 what you say is very true. Many companies are laying off people and hiring cheaper labor. I was passed on a job because they went with an internal who lack the experience and technical knowledge but is cheaper. I'm sorry for your situation. Have you considered networking with a trade group or local meetup? I've gotten a couple of leads that way and hoping for the best. Good luck to you!
@@tristx7832 tyvm, glty also!
Biden claims he created millions of jobs. Why can't you find one?
Dating and looking for a job have a lot in common.
Truth.
Amen
They’re both jobs in and of themselves. Which one of these “jobs” will you quit first when time and resources grow tight?
It sure feels like hunting for a job, just another chore to me.
Some of these dates are just for free dinner and drinks.
It’s insane how this problem just made the news. Having a college degree I was still struggling with landing a job. Thanks for reporting on this!!
Sammmme! I’ve redone my resume 50 times and applied to more than 100 jobs. It’s sooooo stressful thinking a degree means something and finding out other wise I should have taken up a trade because this situation is garbage. I graduated in 2021 and been STRUGGLING
@@shamandalei9452 Don't feel bad, I graduated in 2013 with BS in Accounting and can't find a job in the field. Never landed anything meaningful in the field.
@@MrKevinwg what do u do now?
@@shamandalei9452 what do u do for work now? u still unemployed or no? I just graduated from VCU here in virginia and looking for ajob in my field
@@kaelanpatel4938 I collect data. I just started back working for a government contractor. The same job I had before the pandemic. It was cheaper to stay home and raise our daughter than working and paying daycare. The only reason I got the was because I worked for the Census for two weeks in 2010, having a degree did not help at all with where I am currently working. It is also temporary and no benefits.
The American flag should just change to just a giant red flag.
THIS. 😂
Gawd bless Murica 🤓🖕
@@firstlast8258 look at you 😂 displaying nothing but narcissistic and toxic traits, exactly why were in the mess were always in
these company buildings need to be egged
Exactly.
I would say half of those listings are fake and the other ones dont pay enough to deal with the constant inflation and rising rates
And the rest never get back to you with an update.
@@TheeRighteousOnee truth
Record Inflation, high gas prices and fake jobs.
This is what build back better looks like. Biden's America.
@@TheeRighteousOnee It’s so rude to me and a waste of time. You get your hopes up and then get them crushed. I’ve applied for so many jobs like that it’s ridiculous man. Only “call back” I got was Spam. 😤
ive been running into this problem for a while , its very demoralizing . the job availability is fake our economy is in the tank and the real job numbers are bad
exxxxxactly, trying to make Sleepy Joe look like he's "doing something"
Just because someone has a business does not mean they are great people
Nope not at all a lot of them should be shut down
Amen to that!
@@wildlifewarrior2670 monkey logic
Capitalism and morality are mutually exclusive.
2 years ago I already pointed out the jobs data is false and the jobs don't exist. Everyone said I'm spreading a crazy conspiracy, yet here we are once again.
Sucks doing all that foot work so to speak and at the end of major job hunting find out something like this huh! I was furious & found out about it around the summer of 2019!!
Biden said he created more jobs than any other president. He didn't say they were fake jobs.
I doubt this “everyone” exists. I thought this was common knowledge
@@newstation795 many claimed I'm pushing a conspiracy because they think the data from the fed is flawless and being analyzed perfectly.
Same here! I can smell scam from miles! But nobody believed me! I have everything to do the job and just can’t get one. My fault haha! I’m giving myself few more months and I will be back where I came from. The truth is age and skills/experience is the problem. The more the worst for you.(paradox)
Also if companies providing benefits like healthcare an older worker is more expensive 40y-~400/500$ 21y-~150-230$ is always all about the money!
A lot of these companies will collect so much vital information through your resume alone. It should be investigated if these recruiting firms are selling job seekers personal information. I know I’ve gotten tons of spam after applying or submitting my resume to these fake hiring ads. If it’s done by the companies themselves then there’s probably some money to be made from job applications and the info they hold.
A lot of that is done by people who make a company in India, act like they're posting a job for a local company then sell that data to scammers. That being said a lot of the scammers are easy to tell based on the job posting. If they say W-2 or a contract length it's probably a scam. And if your resume is being sold it's by individual recruiters. Not the company, the company can get sued into oblivion for doing that.
Recruiters can even harass you. One dude only reached out to me disguised to offer me a job. Turns out , there was no job offer but he only likes talking to me to ask me on a date.
@@claudiafeochari2188 Did you go on a date with him?
@@GreyRock100 For some reason, i doubt that.
@@GreyRock100 LOL. 😂
Job hunting is hard enough....without employers wasting time of non employees
Now it may become dangerous they might be fake or steal your identity
Fake jobs should be a criminal offense for purposely stealing applicants time which is the most precious resource we have. Time is ticking... this is fruad.
This is what people have been saying. Thank you for covering this story.
It must be a major problem if even corporate mouth pieces like CBS are covering the story. Fake job listings are usually just another way for the corporations to make more money. But now they are concerned because it is hurting interest rates.
There is also a problem when they post the company as " Confidential" on Indeed. They need to be flagged.
Indeed is a scam anyway
that is more than likely headhunters looking to make a buck.
@@Celestial_Wing I swear to god indeed is useless and full of scammers.
I never reply to those. It's a waste of time.
I've been looking for a job for nearly 3 years (I gently exited my job as a teacher in 2020), and it is absolutely outrageous out there. Ghost job listings, jobs that list a livable wage, with no intentions of paying that wage to anyone, and jobs that onboard you, then don't pay in a timely manner, making it necessary to report and follow the legal route to get paid months afterward. I am absolutely flabbergasted by the state of things these days.
Ive said this before: it has been this way for maybe 10 years. the pandemic shutdown simply exposed the truth to more people. Ive been getting ghosted since 2015. In 2015 when I tried to rant online I found posts several years old claiming the same problem. Letting companies outsource our jobs was treason. There should have been riots over NAFTA but Americans are too distracted by the superbowl to care. Theres no jobs out there. i have never been able to find a full time position, only part time
1000% or jobs with low wages and no benefits.
From private tutor to corporate trainer, some overseas. Maybe khan academy (online) might need a few.
Don't complain IF you vote DEMOCRAT. You can thank them for this NightMare...Oh wait, Zelensky needs another FREE $50 Billion US tax dollars as people struggle to find a job.
Glad y'all are finally catching up. 'Inflated' job listings has been a serious problem for years now. This has an impact on our 'deflated' unemployment rate as well.
The worker-employer relationship is so lopsided in power dynamics. We gotta change this and make things like intentionally listing fake job openings illegal.
It's been that way every since they abolished unions. In tech, many employees are expected to work 24/7.
And more and more of income is going to so called benefits.
Depending on the job, many employees are also expected to use their own vehicles and credit cards for company costs and fill out expense reports later in hopes of being reimbursed.
The powers that be have literally shifted everything in their favor. 😶
Going on a nation wide work strike is the only answer. Even if it takes a couple months of shutting down the economy the end result will be a better living for everyone closer to the bottom of the economic ladder.
@ID10T I agree 100 percent, my fellow working class sibling. I dream of this movement. In the age of social media and of strong worker dissatisfaction, the time is approaching for us to attempt this. Culture is ripe for this movement and I think this can be found even in some conservatives; some would strike with us.
@@Krranski The people of the 1930's-1960's gave blood, sweat and tears to form unions, get better wages and benefits to create the Middle Class and their off-spring pist it all away in a matter of 4 elections- Reagan, Bush , Bill Clinton and then Bush 2.
@@id10t98 Shutting down the economy during covid caused shortages and massive inflation - the resulting chaos caused rents and food prices to soar beyond the fair market value for people on the bottom rung of the economic ladder
I think you are misguided to think that a nationwide work strike is the only answer - the people on the top can wait you out longer than you can wait them out
I thought they were going to talk about scammers that list "jobs" in an attempt to steal personal information from desperate job-hunters. But this a whole 'nother show!
Remember companies must advertise job openings before
they can hire a foreigner on a H1B Visa
Some companys post job openings that are not actually available. They do it to pretend to be a company that is growing.
🎯
Summer of 2017, I applied for 411 jobs, only heard back from 5 of them, 1 of which was hired and I'm still working for. There was one company (not saying names) that called my phone 14 months after I submitted my application! Needless to say I did not have anything nice to say to the person on the phone. If I apply for a job, the company has 30 days to return my call or schedule an interview otherwise they can shove it.
I had a similar experience. Lots of scam jobs out there too.
30 days ? You are so generous I give a job 2 weeks to call me back
That’s it burn your bridges. It costs nothing to talk. It may help with your career in the future. 5/411 means you are no position to bad mouth anybody. Many industries are tight knit communities that talk amongst themselves. I would recommend you be cordial and see what they have to say.
@@voiceofraisin241 not every bridge is worth keeping. A 14 month backlog for recruitment means that company has pitiful HR staffing.
FOUR HUNDRED AND ELEVEN!!! That is actually astonishing I'm not gonna lie...
Funny thing about this is indeed the job search company is laying off 2500 people
Indeed is a scam, they knock out about 89% of apps, I mailed to the companies advertising and got a response, nada when I went thru Indeed
Personally, many of those employers are holding out for their "perfect candidate". Many employers already have no issue making small teams perform 2-3 times the work they normally would just to save money. So it wouldn't be a stretch for employers to think "our employees can handle the extra work load until we find someone". Can't complain about no workers and be overly picky at the same time.
Alot of times the " perfect candidates " who are more then qualified don't get hired anyway
My work is doing this, holding out for a perfect candidate to save 100K a year.
actually they think the 'team' can handle the extra work forever and that's when people start quitting.
This literally happened to me. I was the “interim manager” for 1 yr w/o a title change and then they hired someone who was referred to the job that had no management experience but a fancy masters degree from USC who clearly had the right connections.
Exactly. They claim they're desperate, but the evidence clearly says otherwise. If they were desperate, they wouldn't be so picky. It's that simple.
We’ve been saying this for far longer than even a year but no one believed those of us applying for jobs.
Grandpa Grandma and baby boomers say just get a job!
@@zachsheffield1325 Unfortunately not how it works anymore.
No wonder most of the grads around me applied to 200+ jobs without even getting some interview.
Same thing is happening in Canada 😢. The easiest way to get a job is being recommended by a friend or relative😔
It's who you know and who you're related to.
I personally experienced much of what she was talking about over the last year when apply for jobs. I applied for 100’s of jobs a lot where scammers.
I went to 4 actual interviews. Got 2 offers. One wanted to pay me less than what I thought I might get. The had the posted income range of $30K-$80k and PT/FT listed. They wanted to pay $30k for full time so less than I was making and wasted my time.
The second company had huge turnover and I could tell why in the interview.
30k-80k range for the same job is a HUGE red flag
Those salary ranges are misleading. I learned from my own job that the lower range is entry level. The higher range could be someone who has worked that job for 30 years. Always look at the lower range especially if you have no experience.
30k? In this economy? With this inflation? That's insulting.
What were the signs/red flags that you saw during the interview?
There are many thousands of jobs listing from tech companies, but absolutely none of them are hiring, and it's the same situation across all other industries. The official narrative of available jobs number is flawed and misleading and may very well get us into another financial trouble.
If you are over 40 to 45, don't bother applying to tech companies, they only hire young cheap workers. And they throw away old workers.
Unemployed for three years now... Lost my house and land. Been living in my truck. Work is almost impossible to find. If you can't talk directly to someone willing to hire you, you're not getting hired. All online job listings are fake.
My mom quit her job a few months ago and finally found a job now. She has been working part time and then doing deliveries to make ends meet. She has a great work history and went to over a dozen interviews, yet kept getting ghosted or not hired. She has 2 part time jobs now, because she literally could not find a full time job that would pay the rent. The fake job listings is a huge issue, and im surprised they're just barely talking about it now
You should never quit a job until you have something to replace it with!
hiring process should be as transparent as possible. Companies should be held accountable for fake job listings.
Jobs also LIE about starting pay and locations on these job postings. I applied to Dunkin Donuts about 2 months ago because the post said the starting pay was $13+. I wasted my time going to this interview just to be told the starting pay is only $10. And I was shocked to even get the interview in the first place since I've literally applied to HUNDREDS of jobs and have only gotten maybe 5 responses. Another job posting for Jersey Mikes subs was posted as a specific location near my house, but then when you get into the application they ask "are you willing to relocate to (insert ghetto zipcode here)" and if you say no you're automatically not selected. The one interview I actually got for a warehouse/factory job required you to work 60 hours per week. Sounds like you need to hire TWO people bro, not demand that one person do the work of two but who am I?
Mc Donalds does the same. They say hiring up to $15 but the only offer is $10.
I applied to Amazon Fresh for the produce department, and they make you work in the meat department, the picking department, cashier, etc. All for the same pay with barely any training. It’s ridiculous.
My cousin works for Home Depot corporate and said they have a hiring freeze ..... yet there are several job listings on their website
People be listing job to steal ur information.
They don't believe it when you say so.
there are about five big companies in my area that listing fake job openings
I knew this because I went to a staffing agency and they told me that these companies aren't planning to hire until the middle of summer
so they arent fake jobs they are just giving people time to apply. I got jobs that been open for 20 years now. a company aint gonna post an ad 2 days before they need someone when it takes 20 years to get a single application
@@SgtJoeSmith sounds like you’re a terrible business owner.
They are likely open requisitions. However just because a req is open does not mean the company is actively hiring. There could be a hiring freeze for instance, but the req is still open.
But Biden claims he created more jobs than any other president.
@@user-cv7uh2ec2y so if i offer someone a $250k salary and they say no they only need $200 a week so they dont lose their welfare and food stamps that makes me a bad boss cause i dont pay them under the table so they can still get free food, health care, housing and more while being the richest 1%? so are you saying the richest 1% should not pay their fair share of taxes and should get free food and housing?
the part about placating overworked employees is a real thing.. I worked for a company that did this. We had 2 people quit and they put the ad out there... they would say nobody was applying. Then when someone I knew applied, and even came in for an interview... they said later that they were not going to hire anyone. I was done... I had been overworked long enough.
I wouldn’t have quit. I would have stopped showing up for work and make them fire me so I would qualify for unemployment!
@James Karrie Of course you can!
@@cherylT321 If you are fired "for cause," you don't get unemployment. Getting fired for job abandonment qualifies as "for cause."
Between April of last year and today, I've easily applied to over 400 jobs. Very few have contacted me for an interview, despite many of them looking at my application multiple times ( I can see how many times a company's looked at my resume/profile online). And the few who have contacted me and set up an interview with me have ghosted me. It's been a circus out there. This report has started to make some things make sense.
I’m glad you guys touched up on this. I knew it wasn’t just me. This is getting ridiculous. They don’t want to pay or work with people. How are you going to ask that someone have experience on an entry level job 🙄.
How many job openings are listed simply to fulfill government mandates around receiving stimulus money
After applying to hundreds of jobs and getting no responses I am starting to wonder if companies who claim to be "short staffed" get free money for being "short staffed".
That happened to me. I was hired through past career connection and then they said they would post a posting to meet requirements. But I had already filled the position.
I've seen a number of situations like yours. I can see what's going on with these and don't waste my time and energy applying anymore.
I am looking for a job, actually. And I learned to apply only at the companies official websites. All those intermediates.....provide fake info, or they just want your personal data, etc etc.
I do agree with another comment, one of the biggest problem is also the companies with misleading information, or publishing a range of salary to make us just waist our time as they only pay the lower one.
Thats a solution Thank you for sharing
👍 good looking out
Thank you, I started going directly to the employer website to apply , after getting a lot of fake emails. Also some employers ask you to fill out information to get incentives with the government, like your race, ethnicity, if your handicapped, I even had some job applications of some legitimate organizations in my local area asking upfront for my full social security number and my supervisor’s contact information. These fields were required fields to finish completing the application. I’m no longer going to give that personal information out to anyone unless I am officially getting hired. I have went to 4 interviews with different executives over a 4 month time span . I’m no longer going to meet with hiring team beyond two interviews. After that I will ghost them like a lot of them rudely did to me.
Sending prosperity your way 🙌🏽. This is very smart actually. Guess I’ll go delete indeed
This is a very good idea, to either check the company site or just apply directly. My company has been dealing with scammers on social media claiming to be hiring people for my company for a few years now. It's annoying because when we have reached out to the social media companies about the postings they won't do anything at all about it. We ended up putting a notice on our own careers site about it.
At the same time I’ve seen larger local employers advertising how desperately they need employees, at the very Sam time they also start cutting the existing employees hours .
Real talk I applied for a job 10 minutes later my phone started blowing up with all these job offers from all these different places. Not one of them have called me back and it says immediate hiring BS
Right after the COVID masks came off and there were hiring signs elsewhere. one guy did a story (don’t recall the name) where he submitted aa decent sounding resume for entry level jobs (store staff, cashier, restaurants) online, and only got 2 interview requests out of 250 applications.
So yeah…companies saying “hiring!” but no way means “it’s a great job market….employers just can’t get enough people.”
This is absolutely nothing new. Companies have been posting help wanted/job announcements for jobs there really aren't openings for, for as long as I can remember. There are a bunch of reasons why they do this. What's unfair is to people looking for jobs is they are wasting valuable time applying for jobs that they're not currently hiring for. Worse yet, companies even conduct job interviews of job applicants for jobs they're not hiring for. This wastes time and money of the applicants going to these interviews, and gives them false hopes that they really have a chance for these good jobs. Then there's the need to post a "job opening" when it's actually an internal promotional announcement, with the employer basically already knowing who's getting the job. This leaves jobs seekers wondering what's going on. They apply for 1,000 jobs with no success at the same time they hear about record low unemployment.
@@dabrams84 While it probably can't be a law, company policies should dictate that if they're publicizing a job opening, that it's an actual opening they're going to fill, and not just going through the motions for P.R., EEO, compliance, HR training, etc., reasons.
If I ever get a job call, I would say right away on first interview: “you either hire, or I’m out, don’t waste my time calling again”. But I have revenue stream from a business, so I’m not so desperate for the employment, though.
The internal promotion one is a big problem with government positions. The regulations in many states require that we have at least 3 qualified candidates before we can fill a position, even if we 1. know who we want or 2. there isn't anyone else qualified. I hate that we are forced to essentially mislead people into thinking they have a chance. Granted, there was a guy who interviewed so well with my team that we actually hired him anyway, alongside a second candidate who got the actual job we were offering. Both of them are still with us years later, and were absolute gems to get.
Don't forget about the job listings listed specifically for entry level that lead to interviews where they treat you like you are underqualified.
What's even worse is when a business has a hiring sign... and they're hiring for a completely different location. This is false advertising and should be considered a crime.
Hundreds of thousands of people got laid off in the tech sector. They now deliver pizza for Dominos or drive for DoorDash. This does not mean we created 200,000+ jobs. The real unemployment number is easily 10x what they report.
This is a huge problem in the UK. Recruitment companies want to build their candidate pools so they can prospect clients. So they are using your CV to get in the door with clients even though they will never push your CV forward so you get an interview, they just want to impress clients with your hard earn 20 years of experience and they probably have less than 3 years in a role as a recruitment consultant.
Yeah! Same exact thing here. Meanwhile I'm having to waste the time of valuable friends of mine as references, so these idiot recruiter/carsalesmen can mine more leads
My favorites are the security guard companies. "Airport needs 12 security guards. Security guards always in demand." Go to the company they want $500+ for security guard training. That airport according to how long the add has been running has needed those 12 guards for 20 years and counting.
As a hiring manager I’ll say this: most companies create “ghost jobs” to fill up their database. So when a role becomes available they dive in the database instead of posting an ad. This benefits the company but does not benefit jobseekers
One of the other long-time "tricks" is to post an opening for a job that's already filled, or has someone already hired. Government agencies and various non-profits are notorious for that, where they need to make it look as if they did due diligence for a position, even though they know who they're going to hire or promote.
That’s interesting. I emailed a local town’s HR officer about a communications job. She responded the position had been filled & the list of other available jobs dropped immediately following my inquiry. Wondering what gives.
I think minimum wage should apply when one's applying for a job, e.g., if there's a form that takes 20 minutes to fill it should pay you $2.50 whether or not you're hired. Bet it quickly solves this problem.
this is why we have unemployment right>? you are paid to look for work
@@VR_investments You arent getting what he is saying. To STOP the fake job postings, make them pay you to apply. They can't scam people with fake jobs if it costs them money for you to apply. Get it?
It is a capitalistic solution to a capitalistic problem. They want data, they make money on people's information. So they collect it through fake job postings. It is financially incentivizing to post fake jobs online ($$$ for business and scammers). How to fix this? Make it UN-financially feasible to post fake jobs. Only posting ones which you actually need but at a cost.
@@VR_investments
No, it's well below the minimum wage.
Overseas employment scam got me in the 1980s. He did go to jail.
Leaves out the most nefarious tactic of it, that by listing jobs makes it a lot easier to “justify” saying no to raises, promotions etc to existing employees, because they’ll just hire someone else for cheaper
Look up Reserve Army of Labor
That happened to me. They hired new guys at greater pay than me. I quit after they didn't want to give me my raise.
Do you know the unemployment number only counts people that have filed for unemployment
And are actually receiving UI benefits. Once you exhaust your benefits you are no longer included in those statistics.
@@MW-on1ft after you exhaust benefits you are considered no longer in the labor pool so you don't even count as looking for work.
@@MW-on1ft Yep, the statistics are used to hide how bad unemployment really is.
Jobs aren't hiring hardly. They are posting job listing with no intention of hiring.
Why they do that?
@@yannip2083 to scare employees or to make the company look good for “hiring” people.
Or they might be looking for a unicorn only who is the best that will work for the lowest pay
@@yannip2083
Because it's cool 😎. 😶
When I was a manager for Burger King they listed jobs all the time for a certain day of the week. This was to generate revenue on slow days. People would come in and fill out a job application. Most of the time they would then buy something to eat. No job actually existed.
there's still job opening listings for the place I worked at...that closed 6 months ago
Excellent story! I got soooo fed up with this sh_t four years ago!
I went looking for direct work from others!
Sooooo many online listings.....just a waste, waste of time! 😡
Thank you for clearing up what's going on!
Now I'll only go directly to a company!
Someone give this reporter a gold star!!!
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This should be illegal. So very many of us are desperate for a job, and are seeking a job with all that we have. Companies should not be allowed to lie and post ghost jobs just to waste our time and efforts. Do that have any idea what it does to a person that is destitute to see that yet again a job application has not resulted in some form of communication? SMH This is evil.
They want your personal information and sell it.
yep
@julie c. there's no regulation or verification mechanism whether such job actually exist and hiring. You can set up a bogus company or agency and start attracting applicants. These scammers should be exposed and penalized.
@@manuelmoraleda9684 gee, thanks for explaining that to me 🙄
@julie c. to "entertain" you further, Google The Craiglist Killers. Of course, these are Blue Collar worker but they can easily be White Collar.
2:19 dang, that lady in the middle was flabbergasted. That is really crazy though. You're overworked and begging your employer to hire more people so they post fake jobs just to make you think they are hiring more people, just to milk more out of the overworked employees. I would have dropped my jaw and looked at the guy on my right too.
It’s called window shopping and it’s been getting worse for years
I applied to a job on indeed and communicated by email setting up an interview. The address given to me led me to an old abandoned hotel that had been shut down for years. I hightailed it out of there as fast as I could. He still had all of my personal information though which still freaks me out when I think about it.
wow!
Just got laid off from a high demand sector in an apparent “worker shortage”. I won’t be updating my resume, or acknowledging that a resume, knowledge, work ethic, or experience has any value in the modern workplace. Unsure of what I will be doing, but I (as well as millions of other Americans) are well aware automation is around the corner, and my time is better spent elsewhere ✌️
Indeed has a lot of these companies where you apply for a job and the company never gets back to you until weeks later when Indeed tells you that you weren’t selected. But then the next day, the same job posting from the same company is still there.
Two words explain what is going on; "Under Fill". I've seen it first hand in state govt service. Neat little trick to move around money and funding to give executive management and management pay raises and fund fake jobs for friends and mistresses. I've seen it done. Meanwhile those badly needed nursing positions and security guard FTEs never get filled and they say there is a shortage or no one wants to work there.
It honestly feel like it's a job to keep calling the same place to see if they even looked at your resume.
after having three masters degrees, one MBA and two stem degrees from prestigious schools, and a solid CV, with two decades of experience, great recommendations, I still have not been able to find a job after searching for two and a half years.
😢 That's so disheartening to hear Henri. If I were you, if it was at all feasible, I'd leave the country. Just find a job abroad and not look back, at least until the U.S. has some time to fix our problems. Good luck to you and don't give up hope.
Then it is time to change your cv. I would start by removing some of the education, job posting specific. Experiment, you have nothing to lose. Sometimes when people have so much schooling they think you will have trouble working at a corporation. Or not fitting into the corporate world is why you have so many degrees. Bottom line if what you are saying is true. You need to make some changes.
@@voiceofraisin241 it is very true. I have two decades of experience, in corporate environment too, and that is with a patent, publications, international business experience, and over 20 different products developed. Oh and a writing award. Also a member of international MBA honor society, Beta Gamma Sigma. I am told by recruiters I am overqualified, which basically means I am too good at my job. Also, some say it is because they are worried I might get something better. It is like that beautiful woman who cannot get married because guys are worried she might be stolen by another more deserving/wealthier and more handsome man. I guess they rather hire people that do not deliver for the company instead. Which explains the state of affairs. Maybe I should pull a reverse George Santos.
@@jenniferesein4813 If I leave I will never come back. The US has passed a point of no return. It is easier for this country to self destruct and start all over again then to fix the problems.
@@henripan9584 you're most likely right 😓😔
This is the most accurate report I've seen in news in years.
This is happening to me I applied at Applebees and they said we’re always hiring but when you go there to tell them you applied they don’t even attempt to look at your application.
I totally agree with with you are saying! Many of the jobs that are listed on Indeed, do not exist! They are just testing the employee market! I know this for a fact, because I am in contact with some of my former co-worker(s) in regards to a position that I was laid off from in April 2019! They advertise the job(s) but in the mean time they hire nobody! Not even one(s) who they laid off! Please comment! Dave...
They missed the biggest one. And probably the worst one, outside of the fraud listings.
Many companies internal rules stress to hire for certain roles, a minimum number of candidates must be considered. For an internal candidate to fill a role, they must still interview 3 to somtimes 7 applicants. Those other people have to spend time & energy in the interview process with little or no chance at the position. Worse if they have to physically interview, since then you pay for parking, gas, etc.
Sure it's useful as practice. Not an outright negative. But they should be clear they have an internal hire choice already- then you can decide if you want to go through the process anyway.
Many jobs listed are listed to check boxes when they already have their choice.
Exactly, See this all the time with my company, and all you get is a handshake and we'll be in touch ! Knowing damn well Greg from packaging is getting the damn job lol .
I think this is a much bigger problem than one would imagine. I have wondered about this for a very long while. Somethings just dont make sense otherwise.
Also knowing that the fed looks at that number, you think companies would also purposefully inflate those numbers to manipulate fed decisions?
Of course.
I see the same jobs being posted over and over again by the same companies. Are these the fake jobs or are they just really picky?
Probably both. I know someone who owns a business and he's always in need of good workers. however, he's also very picky and will interview many people for a single position and will hold out for the "right one". He also doesn't like cologne or perfume, so if someone shows to the interview and they are wearing a fragrance, he will not hire them.
Applied for a position only for the company to contact me telling me that there was no position and that they were just testing out Indeed but would keep me in mind…They literally waited until over 300 people applied to it before they finally removed it
A lot of job postings are staffing agencies that are recruiting to replenish their talent pool.
They’re just collecting resumes.
@@iseeflowers To sell to the dark web.
@@Pcarnevaaa oh wow. Didn’t know that.
Seeing the comments here and knowing what I've been through I think it is definitely some shady stuff going on across the country. Sometimes they just pretend they are hiring to get info, make employees nervous or appease over worked employees or to qualify for grants and gov help etc. You cant be over qualified but you can't be under qualified. It's really a finicky process. Can't wait to save up Start my LLC and just work for myself. Seems to be the best way to go!
I've also experienced this more than once job hunting in NC and it annoys tf out of me. I'm glad they've caught onto this wrong - doing these companies are doing. This needs to stop asap.
It's been like this for over a year now this is nothing new
All the jobs I have had, they came from either connections or talking to the business owners himself/herself directly ONLY. I "never" been contacted back from any jobs that were posted on the internet. I sometimes think these websites are fake😂😅.
CEO lying about fake jobs should be fined millions of dollars and or face jail time
So, not only do I have to try and out smart the algorithms of ATS for job postings, pray and hope HR processes run smoothly, but they are either not hiring immediately or at all? This should be illegal!! Meanwhile, placated, and over worked employees are also dying inside. Time to start openly discussing position openings like we do wages.
Literally killing me financially. It's depressing.
I picked up on this since last June of 2022. Several jobs I applied to were up for over 6 months. Still applying without success.
Yes, the ATS is really something. I'm in my 40s when I decided to career change. I went back to college to get a bachelors and masters degree. I updated my resume that hadn't been updated in 10 or 15 years. Then found out about ATS and age discrimination, so I reworked my entire resume removing dates from degrees earned and removing jobs older than 15 years. It sure is a different world than I was used to when it comes to apply for jobs.
Yes exactly!!!! YEARS of applying with ZERO interest from employers in hiring.
Is it just me but aren't the applications long and require alot of personal information which could be misused? It also ask alot of questions on general so it could take a while to fill out applications
Is this a new way to data mine people?
It has been for years now lol
yes
We need to go back in time in apply for job like we did back in the 90s an early 2000s with PAPER APPLICATIONS!
Yep they are just collecting your personal information to sell
I once applied for a job, The boss screamed at me that he filled the job a week ealier [yet the job was still listed in the daily paper.] The worst job application interview I had was an advertised "No experience necessary"" demanded I have experience. After that I went to an Office Supply Store, bought a couple pads of Employment Application, filled them all out. Then just went business to business leaving one at each.
He yelled out you for inquiring about a job?! That’s crazy but I guess it was a blessing in disguise that it didn’t work out. Can’t imagine how he treats his employees…
"You're too lazy!"
You can make these applications forms on your laptop and print - no need to buy anything and waste hours filling them by hand.
@@alexandersuvorov2002 Yep! Sure you can now, but not in those days.
@Sean Stevenson And now they will tell you they cannot accept your resume or application in person because it has to be filled out online.😢
Job opening should be required to go through employment development centers. Too many fake things are going around.
There is also recruitment agencies that list "open job" that does not exist but it is just a type of job. People apply and recruiter collect CVs for maybe use at a later time when a company ask them for that type of person.
I do not mind that a recruiter let you inscribe with your CV, but I do mind that they make fake job postings that does not exist.
Reading all these comments makes me feel better about my struggle to find a PT job throughout high school. Between June 2018 - March 2020, 50+ applications, a few interviews here and there, and nothing... It was so infuriating.
Finally started working in early March 2020, but you know what happened.. In a matter of 2 weeks COVID made me to stay at home, and it wouldn't be until 2 months later I'd return.
However, the wait seemed to be worth it. I landed in a job that I like, fits my availability well, and makes feel like I'm appreciated. Not everyone will be that fortunate, but don't give up. You'll find something down the road.
Companies should now pay people for interviews because so many lead up to nowhere, source happened to me a lot.
applicants should pay for interviews. 95% dont show up and the ones that do dont show up for work or refuse drug test or quit 1st day if hired. Such a waste of time. business owners might as well just do everything alone and get more done and make more money than wasting 30 hours a week posting ads that cost tons of money just to have no one show up that clicked the apply button.
L3 paid me $400 for an interview.
Agree.
@@SgtJoeSmith simple joe don’t drug test for weed and you’ll have a successful business.
@@user-cv7uh2ec2y no cause they don't show up and can't figure out how to do anything, always getting hurt or breaking stuff