@@lordpardus7348 Miz has devolved into someone who brags about how big his balls are, how rich he is, and how hot his wife is. It's the same shit every time. MJF has become a multi-layered character that has shown promise as both a face and a heel.
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I read your comment before he said it and I chuckled but then he said and I was like oohhhh that’s why everyone in the comments thought it was so funny I get it now lmao
As Cornette said, this spot was just a freak accident. Still, they started doing a which of crazy places at the start and felt like they had to ramp up the action toward the end, and Page overselling a simple spot that should have just been a transition to something else. As for how they cut away, the commentary by Taz is what made you know it was real and that everyone was probably panicking. Taz was keeping it real about the situation.
The previous wrestling knockout that immediately came to my mind was Enzo Amore catching his head on the bottom rope and then hitting the mat. Glad he didn't have a neck injury.
If I remember correctly, Enzo didn't point fingers at Simon Gotch for the bad bump. Meanwhile Gotch had nothing good to say about Enzo. I think he even blamed Enzo for not being on the ball. Meanwhile, people don't remember who Simon Gotch, now Simon Grimm was, and everyone instantly remembers Enzo Amoré. For better or worse
What's tragic is this wasn't even the only potentially catastrophic injury in the episode, considering Trent who's already had neck issues was dropped on his head.
@@anthonyrousseau8050 I have no clue if it was Moxley who was stiff or Page is just ass at selling, but yeah they need training. 3 years in and shit like this happens is embarrassing.
@@deft__12 it's both the way mox came in too hot withthe clothesline and the way page tried to sell it. The corckscrew sell is so dumb and i don't get why people think it looks cool, just take a flat back bump lol.
It's just business as usual in AEW too. They won't learn a got-damn thing from this either. Next Wed it'll be some dork jumping of a 75 ft ladder through a glass table...he'll kick out at 2 too! 😂
If u know anything about life every one listens but not always accept advice they have to figure it out themselves that's what bruce lee was all about.
I agreed with the approach to take the camera off the incident. Until you know the severity, I think for the sake of his family you don’t broadcast it. Unfortunately in boxing we’ve had a few people die so I immediately think of the family not wanting it out there
I would agree with that too, but considering the UFC goes around replaying freak injuries, AEW would prtty much do the same if you were going with the 'sports presentation' angle. Honestly, there is enough fucked up practices in real sports for AEW to emulate and stir up genuine drama from.
They always try to do those flip oversells and they always get hurt. AJ Styles tried to oversell Edges spear when he came back and hurt himself the same way.
Yeah, after someone flips off a balcony at the start of a match, they probably think they have to top a crazy spot that they pulled out too early. It is also trying to make guys under 250 lbs look like they are hitting harder than they are because when guys like Hansen, Vader, the Road Warriors, etc., hit clotheslines that look way stiffer, guys rarely did that spin-out sell.
@@ThatGuyOnUA-cam2 what the actual fuck are you talking about? Have you forgotten how many guys Bradshaw injured by giving them a closeline? They wouldn't flip. They would land flat on their back but their heads would bounce off the ground
I think the reason they kept the camera off of Page is because they didn’t know how serious it was. They may have thought it was a neck issue or even worse. It’s kinda crazy they did that considering what happened with Matt Hardy & that one Dark Order dude got knocked out in the middle of the match & they just drug his body to the corner
I was pretty pi$$ed that they wouldn’t show Page after he got injured ! What the hell is wrong with the boys in the truck in AEW?? I want to see it !! 🤦🏻♂️🙄😡
Bro I popped hard when he said well people can get hurt in podcasting if they don't watch their tone oh my God this guy is hilarious I love these two man God bless Brian and Jim
Dude gave me a clothesline in wrestling training and lowered his arm to my gut. Hurt like hell. A move that when a little thing goes wrong it makes a huge difference. A dangerous move but people just no sell it, crazy
I back flipped bumped when I took a clothesline and popped my rotator cuff and pulled my right pec. I blamed myself cause I was 6'1 240 lbs and the guy that gave me the clothesline was much smaller
@@socialistbatman1211 Bret and Owen in particular are great to copy for going into the turn buckles and taking bumps in general. They were perfect. I studied more Steven Regal and Fit Finaly
I don't even watch anymore...just hear what happened on Twitter or elsewhere and track down the clips and then wait for Jim and Brian to upload lol ..and I know I'm not the only one who consumes wrestling like this these days.
@@lillagahnavich7700 true I’m surprised I watched the whole episode of aew, but wwe is way better since the game took over I actually watch raw and smack down
14:22 - I remember in WCW Raven and Kanyon wrestled a match where Kanyon picked his opponent up in a powerbomb position and Raven gave him a neckbreaker at the same time. Unfortunately they had one of those metal trap doors in the ring and he landed on the back of his head/neck. They immediately realized he was hurt and they stopped the match.
@@joshportie Not sure, (both happened in 98) but here is the footage. (I was mistaken, he was Kanyon at the time, not Mortis) ua-cam.com/video/qyUwebNFLVw/v-deo.html
If it had been the UFC they'd have stayed on air an hour longer just to make sure we saw the replays 6 times, from every possible angle. I still can't get the images of Conor and Chris Weidman taking a step onto their tibias last year out of my head.
They showed some shots during the Weidman that were just disturbing. Another one is the Big Nog arm break. There were literally shots taken of Big Nog laying there staring at his mangled arm, which was bent like a U. It was so broken that Nog's elbow was sticking up several inches off the ground by itself.
Yeah, if you were doing the 'sports presentation' thing, you pretty much replay it and have commentors go 'OOOHH'. Honestly kind of fucked, but that's how it be.
I'm happy Jim finally talked about everybody having to flip upside down on a clothesline, doesn't matter if you're 160lbs or 300lbs. It means nothing anymore.
Credit to Tazz…when they were running down the card for rampage tazz just couldn’t do it, talked about what was going on in the ring, and actually taken his sunglasses off
@@Exiled2Eazy but somehow aew keeping the camera off of page while he’s being attended to is the bad thing but it was ok for WWE to replay Enzo’s thousands of times. Not saying you’re saying this by any means it’s just something I noticed that’s a double standard
This proves the point about how dangerous wrestling is even when it’s less risky moves. All the more reason not to do all the stupid stuff they do. Also, boy did ref Aubrey look like Marilyn Manson during Jericho/Castle.
I was at the game Jim talks about where the Louisville player broke his leg on the court. It was a NCAA tournament game (Sweet 16 vs Oregon I think) in 2013 in Indianapolis. I was sitting too far away, but I guess if you were sitting in the first 6 or 7 rows on the sideline where it happened, you could actually hear the bone snap.
Assuming Jim would cooperate and play an active role in the production, I would love to see a streaming service make a miniseries on the life and career of Jim Cornette. Each two hour episode could be another decade in his life/career. It would be so awesome. Hell, you could do a Young Rock style multiple season show just off his stories from the podcast. Lol.
Jim is really really a bad person. He is extremely intolerant and thinks he knows absolutely everything and could never be wrong about his 'perspective' of things. This makes him second Vince McMahon and very difficult to work with. Jim Cornette is Vince McMahon in his prime - bad businessman.
Another repetitive Moxley match, jumpstart for no reason, brawling outside the ring, blading, and Moxley wins..f*ck, people love watching the same bad crap over and over!
There are more injuries and they're more serious because they turned all the safe bumps (like falling on your ass after a clothesline) into high spots - used to get maybe 1 or 2 high risk move right at the end of the match so they could go the distance even if something went wrong - high risk doesn't mean high chance of going wrong, it's a high chance of a serious injury if it does - wrestling these days is packed with high risk moves to the point that the laws of probability mean serious injuries are now pretty much guaranteed to happen to someone every couple of weeks.
@@GenGamesUniverse i know he did but tk didn't have the balls to scrap all that due everything he's done leading to punk comments at that press conference
The main cause was Punk. Instead of being a man and telling Page off backstage as soon as their segment was over, he waited months to do something about it live on tv, like the petty guy he is
I'm pretty sure that Hangman was out as soon as the clothesline connected, not because of his landing. I think he landed wrong because he was out cold.
Yep. I thought the same thing. It was a double hit, like the the clothesline stunned or knocked him out and then the fall was another hard hit when his head bounced off the mat. When his back went rigid and seized up I knew he was all the way K.O.'d.
Is it was a moment when Hangman drives Moxley through steel steps? I think i even saw how Jon starting to hide blade in the hole of the steel steps... tell me i didn't just saw it?
Speaking of 95, I’d be curious to hear Cornette’s opinion of something like the Bret/Diesel matches, which involved two babyfaces, like here, but had Bret pulling out all the stops like tying Diesel to the ring post, using a chair, etc. I always saw that as fair game, in a sense, because the title was at stake, and could see a similar reason for Page jumping Mox before the bell in this match.
They probably were directed to now film Page or show replays because of the backlash from Tua’s injury in the Dolphins game. There were many slow motion close up replays of that injury and Tua’s fencing response after he was knocked out, and a lot of commentators and players were angry and saying it shouldn’t have been replayed and Tua’s treatment shouldn’t have been on TV.
Paul Turner did a great job. Mox KOed Hungman with the clothesline… it was an accident and Hungman was stiff out upon the landing. Unless you’re being clotheslined by Stan Hansen, JBL, or some other behemoth, then you don’t need to be flipping on a clothesline. It looked good when Booker or Fatu were doing it occasionally, but now everyone does it…
If it had been any other Ref besides Paul Turner Hangman might be in even worse shape. Rick Knox and Aubrey would have ether let the match continue or just stand there completely clueless.
Christian Eriksen (Danish footballer) had a cardiac arrest during a football match last year, cameras showed him lying on floor (at that point had technically died) whilst people tried to pull his tongue back from his throat, people were very uncomfortable that they showed that. Point is; I can understand AEW would be cautious showing anything if Page had potentially sustained a very serious or dangerous injury and not offend or upset anyone close to Page, but yes you should discuss what is happening as people would be concerned for his well being
I remember very vividly that basketball game Corny referenced, the kid's name was Kevin Ware. I remember even some of the coaches were in tears. That was absolutely horrifying
Yep. Watching it live on TV is something I'll never forget. Especially the Louisville bench players reaction when it happened right near the base line by them. Horrific shit
I get so furious at the AEW attitude that they have transcended the heel/face dynamic. Two thirds of the wrestlers are faces and the ones who aren't mostly can't get heat except for Christian and MJF who they might turn face... Sigh
I think they might have been afraid it could have been an owen heart situation. Anytime really serious potentially career or life ending injury happens they don't stay on it in wrestling or in any other sports. Picture takes a comebacker off of his head they don't keep the camera on the picture as he's lying their flopping around on the ground possibly dying from getting his skull crushed they do send to another game or give updates on other events until until he's off the field then update viewers bring him to the hospital that kind of thing but they won't show the injury happening or the injured person laying there.
I know Mox didn’t do it on purpose. But part of me wants to believe this was a receipt for Hangman going into business for himself that was the catalyst that led to the Brawl-Out.
Lol..This was no where moxley's fault..This was because of hangman trying to oversell it..He could have just took a bump with his back but he decided to do a backflip before the fall..
Remember when Owen Hart dropped Steve Austin on his head and temporarily paralyzed him? Not only did they address it during the match, but they made it an integral part of the story line.
Been enjoying more of Mox's work as of late since he's been angling away from the blood drinking. But his matches, eh, I knew exactly what this was gonna be with Page and took my restroom break at the beginning. Then I came back, Mox lariato'ed Page, and the match stopped. I hope Page is okay. I also don't want to see this matchup again in any form for a long time. Jim's perspective was valuable on why both those things exist together.
12:04 it was in 2013 I believe where Kevin Ware landed awkwardly and broke his leg so much, the bone was legit sticking out. It was so shocking that the teams were visibly and rightfully so freaked out and panicked at the sight of his dangling broken leg.
Summerslam 98 Stone Cold is knocked out by Undertaker not even 5 min into the main event. Can you imagine if this happened on a major PPV and they stopped it? Of course it's the right move to stop it but then how do you make it right to everybody who paid hard earned money? I hope we never see that scenario
Well, sometimes it’s true. This wasn’t a high risk maneuver, I’ve never seen someone get injured on this move (I’m sure it’s happened but nowhere near enough for me to think of any). Just because it’s predetermined doesn’t mean it’s not dangerous. I think many in AEW like to do dangerous spots a little too much, but I don’t think it’s the case with this one. This just went wrong.
Its just how it be though. Only idiotic contrarians would just spot the opposite of common sense for the sake of it. Jim may have his biases and views, but he's not shitting on AEW for the sake of it.
I was there, close to the incident, and at the angle it happened, many of us thought “broken neck” we didn’t get the camera shot of it like people at home. Doc Samson and his guys were treating it like a neck issue. So I can see why the camera stayed away. They were under the thought that it was a neck thing
It triggers me so bad everytime I see it. It is one thing if he was opened up the Hardway like Brock did to Orton that one Summerslam. That would be good shit. Not only because I want to see Mox legit mauled, but because the blood in that spot worked! But Mox cutting more than a teenage girl weekly is just shit.
AEW was widely praised for how the handled the Hangman situation. Specific mentions were thankful for NOT showing Page being carted off. Page himself was grateful for the handling of the entire case.
12:00 - hes talking about the NCAA tournament of Louisville vs Duke men's basketball. Saw that on live TV at a Buffalo wild wings, craziest fucking thing I've ever witnessed.
“People can get hurt in podcasting too” Jim is the greatest lmao 😂
🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
Cut a promo quick on Brian’s ass lol
Loved how he called Baseball a pussy sport😂
That was too funny.
Jim Cornett is not a racist what’s wrong with people nowadays
I love when Jim gets into a Back and Forth with Brian especially when Jim said "You can get hurt in Podcasting if you don't watch your Attitude" 😂
Cornette is Gangsta tryna tell y'all....
@@4ArchieLee well, he trained the Gangstas!!
@@bradpaton3927 exactly!!! Gangstaz 💯
“Don’t make me change my tone” 😂
I like that MJF tweeted "prayers for Hangman", but once he learned that he was fine, he tweeted that he felt gross about wishing him well lmao
MJF is just a clone of Miz. Miz is funnier and more "tongue in cheek", MJF is just annoying AF. Someone, take him off my TV.
@@lordpardus7348 MJF is the best thing in wrestling today, and the Miz has become some dork who has overstayed his welcome by at least 5 years.
@@lordpardus7348 Miz has devolved into someone who brags about how big his balls are, how rich he is, and how hot his wife is. It's the same shit every time. MJF has become a multi-layered character that has shown promise as both a face and a heel.
@@Minimania18 MJF has shown promise as a face. However, he is the best heel in the business,and should stay in that spot.
@@lordpardus7348 Wow, @Lord Pardus knows how to steal CM Punk’s material.
“People get hurt in podcasting too, don’t make me change my tone”. What an OG lol
Lmao that “and people can get hurt in podcasting…” quip got me dying 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣🤣 I read your comment before he said it and I chuckled but then he said and I was like oohhhh that’s why everyone in the comments thought it was so funny I get it now lmao
Lol
Literally came here for this comment! 😂😂😂😂😂
Honestly will never forget that Louisville basketball game with Kevin Ware. A truly gruesome injury.
Saw it live and it was brutal
I remember. That happened in the NCAA tournament that season. One of the worst I've seen.
Just looked it up and it was worst than what I was expecting …
Apparently, he made a full recovery, transferred colleges, graduated and went on to play professionally in Greece.
@@bradpaton3927 similar injury happened to Paul George in the NBA. He came back and maybe lost a quarter of a step
As Cornette said, this spot was just a freak accident. Still, they started doing a which of crazy places at the start and felt like they had to ramp up the action toward the end, and Page overselling a simple spot that should have just been a transition to something else.
As for how they cut away, the commentary by Taz is what made you know it was real and that everyone was probably panicking. Taz was keeping it real about the situation.
Taz was worried because he had his neck broke..
Taz is and will always be a professional.
You’re right. Taz’s reaction showed it was real.
The previous wrestling knockout that immediately came to my mind was Enzo Amore catching his head on the bottom rope and then hitting the mat. Glad he didn't have a neck injury.
If I remember correctly, Enzo didn't point fingers at Simon Gotch for the bad bump. Meanwhile Gotch had nothing good to say about Enzo. I think he even blamed Enzo for not being on the ball.
Meanwhile, people don't remember who Simon Gotch, now Simon Grimm was, and everyone instantly remembers Enzo Amoré. For better or worse
@@mfranzusan3014 neither one is doing anything of note, so who gives a fuck?
Adam Page could have ended up like Big E
That was reminiscent of the Vince McMahon scenario after Chyna tossed him over the Top Rope which was almost Identical …. 💀
@@mfranzusan3014 Nobody gives one single shit about either of those wannabes
I think a few thousand of us who listen have been waiting for this review. I'm curious to what Jim has to say about this main event and botch.
I thought that as soon as it happened Lol.
Same as every aew botch ..laugh and call them a mess..I've never seen a company have so many big bitches in key wrestling matches
Yep! Lol
It wasn't a botch
Just a freak accident
I am prepared for a rant of epic proportions
He was referring to the Kevin Ware injury. The UL bench looked like they were gonna all faint and/or puke.
The day I never used google images ever again.
Curt Hennig is the first wrestler I remember having seen combining spinning through the air from multiple different moves to take his bumps.
Rikishi was another wrestler who can take a clothesline and enhance it 10 fold by doing that corkscrew flip thing he did.
He could REALLY wrestle though
Billy Gunn was another one that did it in the 90s
HBK could do mad spins to
Some of the old guys were able to while doing it safely for them too.
What's tragic is this wasn't even the only potentially catastrophic injury in the episode, considering Trent who's already had neck issues was dropped on his head.
All these could've been prevented if AEW bothered to have safety training like the WWE. The amount of stiff moves in this company is atrocious.
@@anthonyrousseau8050 I have no clue if it was Moxley who was stiff or Page is just ass at selling, but yeah they need training. 3 years in and shit like this happens is embarrassing.
@@deft__12 it's both the way mox came in too hot withthe clothesline and the way page tried to sell it. The corckscrew sell is so dumb and i don't get why people think it looks cool, just take a flat back bump lol.
It's just business as usual in AEW too. They won't learn a got-damn thing from this either. Next Wed it'll be some dork jumping of a 75 ft ladder through a glass table...he'll kick out at 2 too! 😂
Yup no one in WWE ever gets injured.
Page would of probably been okay... you know, if he took advice.
So he's not suppose to take a vet's advice?
@Vasily what a stupid reply
If u know anything about life every one listens but not always accept advice they have to figure it out themselves that's what bruce lee was all about.
@@kyleday5026 and Bruce Lee was a dumbass who removed his sweat glands and got himself killed great wisdom
To quote Ron Simmons: DAMN!
I agreed with the approach to take the camera off the incident. Until you know the severity, I think for the sake of his family you don’t broadcast it. Unfortunately in boxing we’ve had a few people die so I immediately think of the family not wanting it out there
I 100% agree with you
@@csharp57 I’m not surprised that Cornette had such a stupid fucking take with that one
I would agree with that too, but considering the UFC goes around replaying freak injuries, AEW would prtty much do the same if you were going with the 'sports presentation' angle.
Honestly, there is enough fucked up practices in real sports for AEW to emulate and stir up genuine drama from.
They always try to do those flip oversells and they always get hurt. AJ Styles tried to oversell Edges spear when he came back and hurt himself the same way.
Yeah, after someone flips off a balcony at the start of a match, they probably think they have to top a crazy spot that they pulled out too early. It is also trying to make guys under 250 lbs look like they are hitting harder than they are because when guys like Hansen, Vader, the Road Warriors, etc., hit clotheslines that look way stiffer, guys rarely did that spin-out sell.
@@ThatGuyOnUA-cam2 what the actual fuck are you talking about? Have you forgotten how many guys Bradshaw injured by giving them a closeline? They wouldn't flip. They would land flat on their back but their heads would bounce off the ground
I think the reason they kept the camera off of Page is because they didn’t know how serious it was. They may have thought it was a neck issue or even worse. It’s kinda crazy they did that considering what happened with Matt Hardy & that one Dark Order dude got knocked out in the middle of the match & they just drug his body to the corner
That Rey Fenix arm dislocation spot was shown many times.
AEW overcorrected to the point of never once showing Hangmid after the injury
@@Mister_Phafanapolis it's Hangma'am
@@koushikganesan1270 Completely forgot about that one
Wanna hear something funny? Lita LITERALLY wound up "Jerking the Edge off" as JR said in that TLC match. The end.
Jim makes so many great points in this review
I was pretty pi$$ed that they wouldn’t show Page after he got injured ! What the hell is wrong with the boys in the truck in AEW?? I want to see it !! 🤦🏻♂️🙄😡
He usually does
Remember when Adam Page said "I don't listen to other people's advice, I really don't need to", or something to that effect. Well, there you go.
This accident has absolutely nothing to do with taking advice from veterans
@@enigmatic13465 guaranteed one of those veterans probably told him stop flipping
Flippy floppy empty headed hangman Smfh
Bro I popped hard when he said well people can get hurt in podcasting if they don't watch their tone oh my God this guy is hilarious I love these two man God bless Brian and Jim
In retrospect this makes him beating himself over the head look even worse
Lmfao great call!😂😂🙌
But HES A MANNNNN
@@lillagahnavich7700 hes a cowboy behbay
I 🤜 AM 🤜 A 🤜 MANNNNNN!
Lol that’s great
Dude gave me a clothesline in wrestling training and lowered his arm to my gut. Hurt like hell. A move that when a little thing goes wrong it makes a huge difference. A dangerous move but people just no sell it, crazy
I back flipped bumped when I took a clothesline and popped my rotator cuff and pulled my right pec. I blamed myself cause I was 6'1 240 lbs and the guy that gave me the clothesline was much smaller
Back when I use to Wrestle as Hulk Hogan (in my underwear) I leg dropped the couch cushions and hurt my hip. 😊
Every time I wrestled I just copied what I would see Bret Hart do and guys would ask me if I was legitimately hurt
@@socialistbatman1211 Bret and Owen in particular are great to copy for going into the turn buckles and taking bumps in general. They were perfect. I studied more Steven Regal and Fit Finaly
@@1Smooth1 But you did it for the love of the industry. Just like Hogan brother
Who wasn’t waiting for Jim’s review after we saw it happen
Omg I couldn't wait!
I don't even watch anymore...just hear what happened on Twitter or elsewhere and track down the clips and then wait for Jim and Brian to upload lol ..and I know I'm not the only one who consumes wrestling like this these days.
@@lillagahnavich7700 true I’m surprised I watched the whole episode of aew, but wwe is way better since the game took over I actually watch raw and smack down
no one with a life.
@@andrewclayterman6230 why are u here listening then?
14:22 - I remember in WCW Raven and Kanyon wrestled a match where Kanyon picked his opponent up in a powerbomb position and Raven gave him a neckbreaker at the same time. Unfortunately they had one of those metal trap doors in the ring and he landed on the back of his head/neck. They immediately realized he was hurt and they stopped the match.
Was this before or after a trapdoor ended British bulldogs career from the ultimate warrior trapdoor?
@@joshportie Not sure, (both happened in 98) but here is the footage. (I was mistaken, he was Kanyon at the time, not Mortis)
ua-cam.com/video/qyUwebNFLVw/v-deo.html
@@jvinson yup, f@cked up one of the Villainos real good😟
12:00 Kevin Ware, that injury was haunting
That and the paul george leg break disturbed me
yeah that was rough to watch can't imagine how bad it was for Ware
Gordon Hayward was the worst. His foot was backwards.
Looked like something out of a horror movie .
@@natebaxter9551ware was worse. You literally saw the bone poking thru the leg.
If it had been the UFC they'd have stayed on air an hour longer just to make sure we saw the replays 6 times, from every possible angle. I still can't get the images of Conor and Chris Weidman taking a step onto their tibias last year out of my head.
They showed some shots during the Weidman that were just disturbing. Another one is the Big Nog arm break. There were literally shots taken of Big Nog laying there staring at his mangled arm, which was bent like a U. It was so broken that Nog's elbow was sticking up several inches off the ground by itself.
Yeah, if you were doing the 'sports presentation' thing, you pretty much replay it and have commentors go 'OOOHH'. Honestly kind of fucked, but that's how it be.
Or Silvas rubber leg for that matter.
When the people ask, Cornette delivers
Delivered so much garbage
People don't need to ask. Cornette's merely doing his duty of speaking the truth.
@@josiah1218 He appreciates your clicks. Fucking mark.
because view = monney
@@anthonyrousseau8050 That's perfectly right!
Rikishi was an expert at that bump I think.
Billy Gunn and Dolph Ziggler too.
agreed.
I saw the bump recently where splashed off of a Steel Cage and it was incredible.
Well look how they handled Sid's accident when he broke his leg jumping off the Rope!
I'm happy Jim finally talked about everybody having to flip upside down on a clothesline, doesn't matter if you're 160lbs or 300lbs. It means nothing anymore.
It's not just clotheslines, all the moves are getting more and more extreme and not getting sold as that. Where will this end?
Just like 99% of Loves and ‘Angles’ in Professional Wrestling …. 🤷🏿♂️
Hahaha that picture, Travis is cold blooded.
7:40. Every now and then, Jim will just say something that makes you burst out in extreme laughter.
That ppl can get hurt in podcasting line was gold lmao
7:40 , my God Corny, you are a treasure
@s/ it wasn't the baseball comment. It was the comment to Brian " people can hurt in podcasting too if your not careful "
I've been waiting for this all week.
Credit to Tazz…when they were running down the card for rampage tazz just couldn’t do it, talked about what was going on in the ring, and actually taken his sunglasses off
Unfortunately this is probably a practice run for when saraya gets back in the ring
I remember when Enzo got concussed being thrown into the ropes face first. Pretty sure WWE handled it like they described, didn't they?
They reported on and replayed it
They replayed it at least 20 times lol
@@Exiled2Eazy but somehow aew keeping the camera off of page while he’s being attended to is the bad thing but it was ok for WWE to replay Enzo’s thousands of times. Not saying you’re saying this by any means it’s just something I noticed that’s a double standard
This proves the point about how dangerous wrestling is even when it’s less risky moves. All the more reason not to do all the stupid stuff they do. Also, boy did ref Aubrey look like Marilyn Manson during Jericho/Castle.
Kevin Ware was the Louisville basketball player who broke his leg that Jim was talking about.
7:44 Were going to hear Conrad's voice on next weeks show lmao.
😭🤣😭
I was at the game Jim talks about where the Louisville player broke his leg on the court. It was a NCAA tournament game (Sweet 16 vs Oregon I think) in 2013 in Indianapolis. I was sitting too far away, but I guess if you were sitting in the first 6 or 7 rows on the sideline where it happened, you could actually hear the bone snap.
Rikishi was famous for that clothesline sell. I don't think he ever took a clothesline any other way.
I thought about him when Jim mentioned that clothesline spot.
The self punching lead to the concussion. Change my mind.
Assuming Jim would cooperate and play an active role in the production, I would love to see a streaming service make a miniseries on the life and career of Jim Cornette. Each two hour episode could be another decade in his life/career. It would be so awesome. Hell, you could do a Young Rock style multiple season show just off his stories from the podcast. Lol.
Did Jim ever write a book?
No.
Corny: The Man Behind the Racket.
Jim is really really a bad person. He is extremely intolerant and thinks he knows absolutely everything and could never be wrong about his 'perspective' of things. This makes him second Vince McMahon and very difficult to work with. Jim Cornette is Vince McMahon in his prime - bad businessman.
@@jeysid1987 found Russo's alt account
The basketball game that Corny was talking about, is the one between Louisville and Duke.
From 9 years ago.
Jim: “People can get hurt podcasting too if you don’t want your attitude”
Jim vs Brian in a Mimosa Mayhem II match for AEW Full Gear? BOOK IT TONY!
Another repetitive Moxley match, jumpstart for no reason, brawling outside the ring, blading, and Moxley wins..f*ck, people love watching the same bad crap over and over!
Well yeah Moxley won. The other guy got knocked out.
@@vortex_1336 he was going over anyways its predictable bad booking
That Hangman Page injury looked crazy on Tuesday
There are more injuries and they're more serious because they turned all the safe bumps (like falling on your ass after a clothesline) into high spots - used to get maybe 1 or 2 high risk move right at the end of the match so they could go the distance even if something went wrong - high risk doesn't mean high chance of going wrong, it's a high chance of a serious injury if it does - wrestling these days is packed with high risk moves to the point that the laws of probability mean serious injuries are now pretty much guaranteed to happen to someone every couple of weeks.
Idk why hangman got a title shot to begin with where he was the main cause of that backstage fight after all out but wishing him a speedy recovery
Keyfabe wise, he had won that battle royale.
@@GenGamesUniverse i know he did but tk didn't have the balls to scrap all that due everything he's done leading to punk comments at that press conference
The main cause was Punk. Instead of being a man and telling Page off backstage as soon as their segment was over, he waited months to do something about it live on tv, like the petty guy he is
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@@EliC09 considering what Punk said at the scrum it alludes to trying to resolve the issue backstage with Page
For those that want to know the basketball player it was Kevin ware that injury was the worst I've ever seen.
I personally loved when Brian defended baseball! LOL
That got me laughing. 😆
I loved hearing Jim bury it
Baseball is great
7:44 Lmfao. Jim and Brian’s chemistry is amazing.
😂😂😂😂
I'm pretty sure that Hangman was out as soon as the clothesline connected, not because of his landing. I think he landed wrong because he was out cold.
Agreed.. looked like Mox caught him hard under the jaw.. like a tyson punch
Yep. I thought the same thing. It was a double hit, like the the clothesline stunned or knocked him out and then the fall was another hard hit when his head bounced off the mat. When his back went rigid and seized up I knew he was all the way K.O.'d.
How did cornette miss the part where Moxley blades right on camera in front of everybody in the front row?
Is it was a moment when Hangman drives Moxley through steel steps? I think i even saw how Jon starting to hide blade in the hole of the steel steps... tell me i didn't just saw it?
Just found out that Kevin Ware came back from that injury the next year and plays professionally today
Don't make me change my tone......CLASSIC
Speaking of 95, I’d be curious to hear Cornette’s opinion of something like the Bret/Diesel matches, which involved two babyfaces, like here, but had Bret pulling out all the stops like tying Diesel to the ring post, using a chair, etc. I always saw that as fair game, in a sense, because the title was at stake, and could see a similar reason for Page jumping Mox before the bell in this match.
They probably were directed to now film Page or show replays because of the backlash from Tua’s injury in the Dolphins game.
There were many slow motion close up replays of that injury and Tua’s fencing response after he was knocked out, and a lot of commentators and players were angry and saying it shouldn’t have been replayed and Tua’s treatment shouldn’t have been on TV.
7:44 Jim went in on Brian
Not good for the program.... & it's been nippy lately on here.
@@davidmurray6949 facts
He son’d him🤣
I was wondering why he got so worked up on this topic
Brian being a little sensitive. He needed that checking
was really glad it's not Rick Knox. Page would still be lying there for a couple of minutes until Mox calls for it to be stopped
Paul Turner did a great job.
Mox KOed Hungman with the clothesline… it was an accident and Hungman was stiff out upon the landing.
Unless you’re being clotheslined by Stan Hansen, JBL, or some other behemoth, then you don’t need to be flipping on a clothesline. It looked good when Booker or Fatu were doing it occasionally, but now everyone does it…
If it had been any other Ref besides Paul Turner Hangman might be in even worse shape. Rick Knox and Aubrey would have ether let the match continue or just stand there completely clueless.
This also reminded me of the Steiners-Buff Bagwell incident on WCW Thunder back in the day.
When Mick Foley got knocked out, he'd just keep wrestling until he regained consciousness
And that’s why Mick has memory issues to this day
Mick is just built different
And that was absolutely the wrong way to go, and I love Mick
Mick thought concussions go in circles not lines. So he just got knocked out again and again until his mind cleared up.
@@savievere9759 he was born in Indiana so he’s got our Hoosier stubbornness but raised in NY so he’s got their craziness. Toughness from both states
Haven’t thought about the Kevin Ware injury in a long time. Thanks for the bad memories Jim. Lol
I think the reason there was no camera on it is cause they expected a Hayabusa situation.
when he hit.. his body straightened out and he stiffened.. i thought oh shit.. neck..
Christian Eriksen (Danish footballer) had a cardiac arrest during a football match last year, cameras showed him lying on floor (at that point had technically died) whilst people tried to pull his tongue back from his throat, people were very uncomfortable that they showed that.
Point is; I can understand AEW would be cautious showing anything if Page had potentially sustained a very serious or dangerous injury and not offend or upset anyone close to Page, but yes you should discuss what is happening as people would be concerned for his well being
I remember very vividly that basketball game Corny referenced, the kid's name was Kevin Ware. I remember even some of the coaches were in tears. That was absolutely horrifying
Yep. Watching it live on TV is something I'll never forget. Especially the Louisville bench players reaction when it happened right near the base line by them. Horrific shit
Yep during march madness several years ago, the bench went crazy and it was the worst injury ive ever seen in sports
I was waiting for this one!
Lol. No shit
The one we’ve all been waiting for!
I get so furious at the AEW attitude that they have transcended the heel/face dynamic. Two thirds of the wrestlers are faces and the ones who aren't mostly can't get heat except for Christian and MJF who they might turn face... Sigh
I think they might have been afraid it could have been an owen heart situation. Anytime really serious potentially career or life ending injury happens they don't stay on it in wrestling or in any other sports. Picture takes a comebacker off of his head they don't keep the camera on the picture as he's lying their flopping around on the ground possibly dying from getting his skull crushed they do send to another game or give updates on other events until until he's off the field then update viewers bring him to the hospital that kind of thing but they won't show the injury happening or the injured person laying there.
Referee was like, "Bitch, I wanna TALK to SAMSON"!
I know Mox didn’t do it on purpose. But part of me wants to believe this was a receipt for Hangman going into business for himself that was the catalyst that led to the Brawl-Out.
It wasn't his fault. Ol Hangma'am jammed his forehead into the mat overselling.
Lol..This was no where moxley's fault..This was because of hangman trying to oversell it..He could have just took a bump with his back but he decided to do a backflip before the fall..
This was one of those things where I couldn't tell if Page was really hurt or if it was part of the match.
Remember when Owen Hart dropped Steve Austin on his head and temporarily paralyzed him? Not only did they address it during the match, but they made it an integral part of the story line.
I remember that college game injury. I immediately thought of Sid.
Jim forgot when Enzo ko'd himself lol
Mox: Duck when I come in with the lariat.
Hagman: I don't take advice from veterans!
Hangman constantly going into business for himself
Been enjoying more of Mox's work as of late since he's been angling away from the blood drinking. But his matches, eh, I knew exactly what this was gonna be with Page and took my restroom break at the beginning. Then I came back, Mox lariato'ed Page, and the match stopped.
I hope Page is okay. I also don't want to see this matchup again in any form for a long time. Jim's perspective was valuable on why both those things exist together.
I was there at the arena and it was pretty scary.
12:04 it was in 2013 I believe where Kevin Ware landed awkwardly and broke his leg so much, the bone was legit sticking out.
It was so shocking that the teams were visibly and rightfully so freaked out and panicked at the sight of his dangling broken leg.
The NFL does go to graphics and try to distract people from what's going on with an injury but they do address it somewhat..aew just panicked.
Summerslam 98 Stone Cold is knocked out by Undertaker not even 5 min into the main event. Can you imagine if this happened on a major PPV and they stopped it? Of course it's the right move to stop it but then how do you make it right to everybody who paid hard earned money? I hope we never see that scenario
Its interesting to hear Jim adopt Moxley's (and AEW's) defense: "its a dangerous sport, of course people get hurt, its not our fault."
Well, sometimes it’s true. This wasn’t a high risk maneuver, I’ve never seen someone get injured on this move (I’m sure it’s happened but nowhere near enough for me to think of any). Just because it’s predetermined doesn’t mean it’s not dangerous.
I think many in AEW like to do dangerous spots a little too much, but I don’t think it’s the case with this one. This just went wrong.
Its just how it be though. Only idiotic contrarians would just spot the opposite of common sense for the sake of it. Jim may have his biases and views, but he's not shitting on AEW for the sake of it.
Most baseball injuries are the guys are cold from standing in the field or sitting in the dug out. Then having to full on dead sprint to first base.
Hit by pitch. Mets had a few injuries and were the most hit this season.
Hit by pitch. Mets had a few injuries and were the most hit this season.
Hit by pitch. Mets had a few injuries and were the most hit this season.
I was there, close to the incident, and at the angle it happened, many of us thought “broken neck” we didn’t get the camera shot of it like people at home. Doc Samson and his guys were treating it like a neck issue. So I can see why the camera stayed away. They were under the thought that it was a neck thing
Taz was shaken up real bad I thought he was going to cry 😢 when Page got hurt
I'm surprised jim didn't mention mox obviously blading
It triggers me so bad everytime I see it. It is one thing if he was opened up the Hardway like Brock did to Orton that one Summerslam. That would be good shit. Not only because I want to see Mox legit mauled, but because the blood in that spot worked! But Mox cutting more than a teenage girl weekly is just shit.
That thumbnail is majestic.
He's more empty headed now
What we have all been waiting for
AEW was widely praised for how the handled the Hangman situation. Specific mentions were thankful for NOT showing Page being carted off. Page himself was grateful for the handling of the entire case.
I was watching that Bball game live, can’t believe Corny was up on game
He's a Louisville fan and it was a final four game. I'm not a huge hoops guy but I seen it live also.
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WHAT REALLY HOLY SHIT
Thank you
LOLOL!!!
"Apparently you’re a racist".
"Again??"
😂
Hope they do a video on Athena's match on Dark.
If anyone ever does a review of Dark or Elevation they've got way too much time on their hands.
Jim has said terrible things about so many ethnicities, it's weird he only gets pulled up when it's a black person.
@@dickdastardly66818 or women
12:00 - hes talking about the NCAA tournament of Louisville vs Duke men's basketball.
Saw that on live TV at a Buffalo wild wings, craziest fucking thing I've ever witnessed.
I wonder if it was more than just a concussion, contrary to what they're claiming. Homie went _limp_
Oh man, I hope this is the beginning of Jim bagging on baseball.