Senate GOP blocks attempt to pass legislation banning bump stocks after SCOTUS ends Trump-era rule
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Senate Republicans blocked an attempt by Democrats to pass a bill that would ban bump stocks. NBC News Capitol Hill Correspondent Ryan Nobles reports of whether there is a path forward for that legislation.
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#Senate #Republicans #Guns
stop fighting against the constitution. both parties must abide by the constitution. if your party is against it, you arent an american party.
Show me in the constitution the part about bump stocks. I'll wait.
@@saintlex32it’s not about the bump stock. It’s about the rule of law and the process
@@BVN-TEXAS show me.. in the constitution.. where they mention bump stocks. You guys are hollering ‘cOnStItUtIoN’ but yet there’s no mention of them in there. I guess I’m wrong. Can you point me to where it mentions it? Thanks in advance.
@@saintlex32were supposed to be able to have what they have so we can defend ourselves against a tyrannical government. So where is my tank?
I want an Abrams @@mattt5006
Leave my 2A alone!
A HOLE.
Than why go after Hunter Biden?? Or is that only for Rednks
Than why go after Hunter Biden?? Or is this only for Red Nks
2A doesn't say anything about bump stocks.
That said I understand where you're coming from.
I got your 2A right here.
“shall not infringe”
If Congress didn’t infringe we would have schizophrenics with M60s
“A well-regulated militia.”
@@JapanSpr94It doesn't mean regulated by the government
@@JapanSpr94Nothing to do with government regulations but ok pal.
@@JapanSpr94 Japan, go play sudoku.
Tyrants, the second amendment is absolute
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED PERIOD.
"well regulated"
@@sdfasdf123asdzxcz-hn9hs Yes well armed, well cleaned, well operational, well prepared all the synonymous equivalents. Very good would you like a pat on your head & a cookie.😂😂😂
@@sdfasdf123asdzxcz-hn9hsYawn. The usual BS from the functionally illiterate.
@@sdfasdf123asdzxcz-hn9hs "The people". Don't be disingenuous. The document was made directly after facing a tyrannical government. If you think "well regulated" means restricted than I am glad the supreme court is not filled with folks like you.
What is the obsession with guns? There are more guns in America than people 😮 rules for guns should be regulated, just like vehicles! I am sure no one will agree with me, because of the obsession with firearms. A gun should be treated with respect, and the user should be educated on safety and not mentally insane!
The whole ATF needs to be dismantled and the NFA done away with.
Truthfully, those things are as dangerous to the guy holding the gun as they are to anyone down range. Make ‘em legal and watch the people who shouldn’t own guns earn their Darwin awards.
Because they have been used in 0.01% of crimes. You cannot even find a measurable number they are used in crimes so little. Not to mention they do not make a rifle a "machine-gun" by already well defined definitions per ATF & NFA. People do the same thing with a rubber band or the belt loop of their pants. That is part of the problem, if the folks who want to ban these things know absolutely nothing about firearms. there are the people who said "pistol braces make guns shoot higher caliber bullets" & had no idea pistol braces were invented for disabled vets to be able to operate a firearm with one hand. They conveniently forget that gun crime has decreases over 28% in the last 3 decades and continues to do so. These folks are not objective. Fear mongering is the only argument.
It starts at the 2nd amendment, freedom of speech is already next up. Luckily we have a constitution.
Bump stocks shouldn’t exist, Because our sporting rifles should have select fire to begin with.
Because bump stocks don't convert semi automatics . The guns still fire 1 round per trigger pull. Furthermore, bump stocks and gold fingers are not easy to use. You need to learn to hold them just right for them to work. They also waist a lot of ammunition. 3 head shots is much more effective then a 30 round loud spray.
That argument is literally why definition needs to be measured by firing rate not the mechanics of the weapon
@@Wongseifu548 if the machine gun law isn't defined by the machine, then what are you doing with people who fire just as fast as a bump stock by just using their trigger finger? machine gun laws ignoring mechanics sounds silly.
@@JFFF6293 Once you start actually understanding firearms and their mechanics, you'll understand that the machine gun law was just silly to begin with.
@Wongseifu548 Defining a mechanical device by some arbitrary rate of fire rather than mechanical function would be impractical and enforcing the law impossible. Ambiguous laws capriciously enforced aren't really just. To enforce a law, it needs to be concise and explicit, like the mechanical function of a mechanical device. Ascribing mechanical function to firerate just shows how little you know about firearms. Your strongly held opinions about that which you know nothing is everything that is wrong with politics in this country.
@@V47MechanicalBird Once you start actually understanding firearms and the Constitution, you'll understand that the machine gun law was just silly to begin with.
but will this make people stop shooting each other?
Too bad
That person should be kicked out of government
What part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED don't they get ?? 🤔
Stop the cap Trump 2024
A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed. Notice the coma after the word state. This means are new thought.
In the 1800s the 2nd amendment was only considered to be a protection against the federal government regulating state regulated militias. States had militias and had all kinds of restrictions on guns. They had registries of guns and which of their members possessed them. Right to bear arms isn't absolute, in the same way the 1st amendment doesn't allow you to lie in court.
Sadly you aren't equipped to have a discussion of the history of the 2nd amendment and what it actual means, because you don't even understand basic grammar.
@@sdfasdf123asdzxcz-hn9hs
While I agree the 2nd amendment was a check on the federal government, I can’t imagine it’s the only reason. Between the federalist papers and other correspondence from the framers, it’s clear that the purpose of the 2nd amendment extends beyond your sole explanation.
@@Geissele_match its so weird that you choose to believe an argument crafted in the last 30 years and ignore 250 years of history and simple practicality. The bump stock ban happened because a lone gunman shot 1000 bullets in 10 minutes into a crowd in Las Vegas from a hotel balcony, hitting 400+ people, injuring 800+ and killing 60. Its flat out stupid to make an argument that that is constitutionally protected gun ownership.
@@Geissele_match weird that people from 1791 to mid 1900s saw it a certain way, but now in the last 30 years you want to go re-imagine what it means.
A guy used a bump stock to fire 1000 bullets in 10 minutes, killing 60 people, hitting 400 with bullets and injuring 800 total. That is why the ban was put in place. Acting like that is constitutionally protected gun ownership is really stupid.
@@sdfasdf123asdzxcz-hn9hs
From what I understand, the guy in Las Vegas had guns in his room equipped with bump stocks but none of them were actually used in that tragic event. The leftist media in its usual fashion, latched on to a detail of the case and painted a false picture. Go figure.
Aside from that point, I purposely said the federalist papers and correspondence from the framers as an example which obviously weren’t written 30 years ago.
James Madison signed a letter of marque and reprisal telling a private ship owner that the second amendment protects their right to carry cannons. That didn’t have anything to do with what you stated nor did it take place 30 years ago.
Guns not the problem....
yeah they have been saying that for literally decades now and it still as untrue then as it is now
@@Wongseifu548 it is cause guns can't walk off and shoot no 1
When are we going to actually follow the bill of rights and regulate the militia?
There are literal decades worth of laws and rulings that regulate things. The right to bear as shall not be infringed
@kibbs325 tons of laws, but nothing is actually regulated.
"well regulated" has nothing to do with government control.
i dont know what "the militia" is supposed to mean. the 2a means you have the right to form one, and regulate military level firepower accordingly within the militia. "the militia" is just words for "your hypothetical militia" its not an organized militia.
@@jjohnson1476Study the historical meaning of "regulated", as in a regulated clock.
Why does anyone need a "bumpstock"? Deer getting bigger?
The 2nd amendment has absolutely nothing to do with hunting.
This wasn't about bump stocks. It was about a non elected executive branch misinterpreting law to circumvent congress because they don't like something. Bumps stocks absolutely do not meet the statutory passed definition of a machine gun they tried to ban it under. Period.
Why are people who are woefully ignorant on certain subjects free to voice their ridiculous opinions on them?
Stop if you keep holding the trigger and the rifle keeps firing it is a machine gun
But it doesn't. You don't understand how it works. If you hold it like your supposed to with a tight grip it will only fire once. You have to let it move back and forth slightly so it moves back into your finger to pull the trigger again. But again if your firm with your grip it will act normal. 🤡
Exactly
The trigger is actuated repeatedly with a bump stock. It has always been outside the legal definition of "machine gun" in the LAW from 1986. ATF cannot CREATE or MODIFY law, they can only create rules that enforce EXISTING law! That is the purpose of checks and balances.
No person of military will shoot a rifle with a loose stock or use full auto on a non mounted gun!. 3 round burst for control! This is a hype civilians use to manipulate a well written law!. It's like saying the crack isn't crack because you smoked it from a can and not a pipe! 😂😂😂😂.
@@johnnylafayette You clearly haven't been in since the M16A3/M4A1. We stopped using burst because it was a stupid idea.
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great news
Repeal the NFA
Why would you pass a law that the Supreme Court just ruled on ? That’s nuts they need to worry about crimes and mental health go fix the poverty and homeless problems.
Actually you can thank Ronald Reagan for that. Research it
SCOTUS didn't rule on a law per se. They ruled on an ATF rule. They essentially said for it to even have a hope of a chance, it would need to be a law passes by congress and not an "administrative redefining".
They also ruled bump stocks are not machine guns. Unfortunately no ruling on the legality of the NFA.
Drug overdoses took 107,000 Americans last year alone and all government wants to worry about is disarming public .
I think government is on the wrong team.
Are bump stocks really that important? I think the 2nd amendment is very safe. You may have a point tho, since women no longer have control of their bodies (in some states)the 2nd might be on the table too🤔
@@j.francis7390 it's not about the bumpstocks for most people. It's about ATF overreach into a constitutionally protected item. It's about "can the atf expand a statutory definition beyond what congress has defined? AND can the ATF expand a statutory definition without the power to do so?
Also it seems that women have at least the same reproductive rights as men.
SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED,
Kamala uses her headboard as a bump stock.
My goodness that was BRILLIANT! ( I'm surprised, I thought it was just spider webs upstairs! )😊
Only when Willie Brown’s going to town in the brown
For those who don't understand: SCOTUS RULING: 1. Bumpstocks are not machine guns. Anyone who can read and has a functioning brain that understands how a bumpstock works knows that. 2. If you want the jope of regulating them, congress must must be the one to try. Not the atf.
Seems like there's now a 2 part test for machine guns:
1. Does the product fire mechanism function automatically?
2. Does the product fire (automatically) with a single function of the trigger?
Ex. Forced Reset Triggers/SuperSafety: Q1. Yes. Q2. No. Verdict: not a machine gun. You would need a yes for both to be a machine gun.
Still unconstitutional though.
NO means NO !!!!!!
Shall not be infringed !!
Than why go after Hunter Biden??? Or is the 2nd only for Red Nks
Its clear you are passionate about this. As am I. May i offer a suggestion though? Please stop saying this. It makes us all look like drooling idiots. This isnt aimed at you but everyone that screams this like a reaction any time guns are mentioned. sHalL nOT B iNFriNgEdddddd.
There's nothing in the second amendment about a bump stock I hear where you're coming from but wording matters.
Well regulated militia
Shall be changed
The supreme court's bruen decision and the Constitution's 2nd Amendment are pretty clear on this stuff. On top of that, I cant comprehend why anyone would want to take away some of their own rights. We have enough restrictions as it is. Its time to out a stop to new law making.
Pete Ricketts 2024
Thank you Pete Ricketts for voting for America and using your god given balls!!!
The 2nd amendment shall not be infringed
I understand what you're saying but there's nowhere in the second amendment that mentions a bump stock.
So technically that's not infringing.
@@Zer0FuXGiv3n ok, fair enough .
@@jeffgarner9274 wording matters in this situation.
That said, keep that fire going.
@@Zer0FuXGiv3nthere is zero mention of cameras in the first amendment. Zero mention of vehicles in the 4th. The founders knew that civilization would progress and change. The words written were meant to be expanded to include future technology.
@@Zer0FuXGiv3n it says "arms" meaning that they didn't specify that we can't. Plus most of the founding fathers were gun nuts and were super excited to see new technology. They knew that the firearm tech was changing and changing fast yet they wanted the citizens to have the same power as the government.
I'd like to see the bill. They are never clean and often have add ons which make them unpalatable.
Of course it was more than bump stocks. It was triggers, switches, other different types of stocks.
If it was just bump stocks nobody would care since they're junk.
There's also either this bill or a different bill that bans all semi auto guns.
On a different note they've already passed a vehicle bill requiring all new vehicles by the the year 2026 to have alcohol testing before the car starts. Scanning while you are driving. And reckless driving interlocks that will shut the car down for erratic movement. Republicans are trying to get that tossed out. It woukd add $1000's to the price of new vehicles and fill of potential problems.
This administration is completely out of touch with the people. They're all about catering to special interest groups.
I'm sure all our local Police Departments (and their families) will sleep much better.
All bills. ALL bills should require a large portion of representation to vote on a bill.
All bills should be single issue.
BATFE BTFO GG NO RE KID
I don’t want them banned
Go look up videos coming out of Illinois, Cali, New York. All the 15 year olds with glocks and illegal Glock switches
Since the ATF refuses to act on that I don’t see why everyone shouldn’t be allowed to own full auto
Since you can’t a bump stock is definitely a good legal choice
Those 15 yo already have a law on the books for being underage.
@@Blackronin357 exactly my point
None of these laws are to target real criminals~ they’re there to punish people who want to follow the law
Switches for Glocks are VERY illegal.
@@SalimSivaad and that law is never enforced. theres still a 1000 teenagers in chicago with them facing no reprocussions for owning them, so why should comparitively normal people be inprisoned for owning bump stocks? answer that.
FDJT
You have to look at the times and intent when 2A was passed. Times: everyone had access to the same weapons, citizen and govt alike. Intent: to resist a tyrannical government.
Time are different but intent is the same. Citizens should have access to the same weapons the police do. The police would be the first form of tyranny the government would/does send after it's people. Armored vehicles, automatic weapons, body armor etc. The military is a different story, however.
What part of SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!! YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND!!???
Thank God… I never go to the firing range or desert without it..
Bump stock would end if they effected Wall street.
Trump The Gun Grabber
If I make my arm and hand rigid, I can do the same as a bump stocks. I also have fast twitch trigger finger to replicate the same. Congress needs to limit car HP. Many are outrunning police with the 700 to 900 HP factory cars. Guns aren't the problem, criminals are.
Then you shouldn’t worry about a ban anyways…
So make your arm and hand rigid since “if” theory works. Congress doesn’t care about your life as long as 💰involved.
@@sp63913then why even do it?
@@sp63913 Yea, great argument ya fckn dolt.
Bump stocks were banned after a guy shot 1100 rounds in 10 minutes at a music festival, killing 58 people and wounding 800. You must have really strong fingers.
Disgusting.
if you don't want a bumpstock, don't buy one... no need to waste my tax money with this nonsense 🤣
I opposed this when Trump overstepped with his executive order, and I'm still opposed to it.
If my representative votes for this ban, then I'll vote against them in their next election.
OOOOHHH 1 vote gone 😂😂
Ditto...and I disagreed with Trump on that one
@@stevierubalcava5924Nope. I disagreed with this decision, but I am still absolutely voting for Trump. Nowhere in the OP's post did they imply otherwise.
Good move to Russia muppet.
@@stevierubalcava5924 he speaks for about the whole actual 2a approving convervative party. so a little more than one vote.
Thankfully the Supreme Court sees things clearly.
Considering the one who lead the decision was clarence Thomas I wouldn't hold my breath on clarity
Right. Same Supreme Court who decided Citizens United was good for our democracy.
SCOMAGA
Thanks trump 🙄
meanwhile the gun loving community: binary triggers, frt,gat crank,etc etc
try what ya like, won't change anything, we've worked around this, we'll work around anything.
yeah it why literally banning is based off the mechanics actually leave too much room to work around it. It realistically should be on rate of fire like anything above 30 rpm
@@Wongseifu548you can shoot almost any gun faster than 30rpm, even bolt action rifles, repeater rifles, and revolvers.
Plus, two seconds per shot would make any legal firearm very difficult to use in self defense. You'd be heavily handicapping yourself if someone broke into your home.
No need to worry, The gop has a plan , they have their thoughts and prayers to protect us
Yeah.. so plz.. tell ur fellow lefties to stop committing mass shootings plz…
Get help .. the Dems have become the party of confusion and anti America..
Violence happens in blue or red cities.
Blue cities have the strictest laws and highest crimes.
Explain to us how Gun Free Zones protect us.
Firearms aren’t going anyplace. No one is giving up their guns.
good, don't restrict my 2nd amendment.
Regulating an accessory that changes cyclical rate does not infringe on your right to the weapon itself.
Give us one reason why you want bump stock.
Yeah, keep the body count of children high.
Do you even own a gun
@@petepierre6458 Keep it low ,BAN ABORTION..
GOP standing up for the Constitution. Thankyou.
Bump stocks 😂 one Trillion more dollars 💵 debt every 100 days sick.🤢
SCOTUS said no. Any attempts to put legislation should be seen as a criminal offense and the individual(s) who put it on the floor should be fined their salary.
SCOTUS ruled on the ATF rule. Not the NFA or GCA. They also ruled bump stocks are not machine guns, and thus if anyone wants the hope of them being banned, they must go through congress.
The actual ruling was that the ATF exceeded their authority, and that congress would be the appropriate people to put such a ban into effect. So the idea that congress can't act on this goes directly against the SCOTUS ruling.
That said, I'm glad congress won't be passing another ban, because the last thing we need is more ammo for the ATF to misinterpret.
@@PrayingPandaand was stopped. Bump stocks are here to stay.
Shall not be infringed
People are too worry about guns, but we should worry about other 2A infringements too such as knife ban: In some states, you can’t own pen knives or buckle knives. What if your gun shoot knives? You can’t own an automatic knife launcher. You can’t own a shuriken.
what a about all the illegal glock switches in the hands of young black kids , yes KIDS , in the city?
I seen one guy get caught with 10 of them and got probation
Long live the 2nd amendment
Party of prolife indeed.
SCOTUS HAS SPOKEN.
That's the end of it.
Actually, SCOTUS just dealt with the APA violation by the ATF. This was an attempt to pass a law. 0:56
You've heard of the Bruen and Heller decisions? Yes the USSC has spoken, loud and clear.
Haha when had the left ever cared about scotus decisions 😂😂😂
@@S1D3W1ND3R015 I wouldn't know.
I don't know any Lefty's.
Save yourself some grief, don't expect any rhyme or reason from today's Maga Republican party. Perennial blockers.
get a brain....maybe you can rent one
Cope harder. 2A is here to stay, and there's nothing you can do to keep infringing on our rights.
@@davehouk5990 Says the supporter of a guy who threatened to suspend the Constitution, for his own selfish, nefarious reasons. Brain dead.
@@sdfasdfadfasdfadfasd Newsflash:- Democrats love guns too and oh yeah...they're as American as you are.
Hilarious!
There are bump stock mods that will allow Glocks fire nearly 2400 rounds per minute.
Did the CEO discuss the ABCs involved in the dei😂😂😂
Whats all in the bill? I bet 99%has nothing to do with bump stocks
time to retire chucky.. the democrats are fading away
Thank God.
Leave the 2A alone! Bump stocks should be legal.
Condolences and prayers to the future victims.
You mean the 13 year old or the ecuadoran?
Or you mean palestinians, or libyans?
@@Noconstitutionfordemocrats either or, I'm sure they will be american.
@@Noconstitutionfordemocrats more like the concert goers in las vegas
@@Wongseifu548 Let's see, 500 concert goers versus 30,000 civilians. 1.6%.
No need to worry, the sole manufacturer of bump stocks ceased operates in 2018.
Cus noone else makes them......... Also not hard to make
Watch how quickly that changes. All it takes is someone to order a single custom tooled injection mold and they become that manufacturer.
A law is not going to stop someone from making them on their own.
There are patents on the bump stock. So if someone was to manufacture bump stocks and sell them in the masses, they'd be shut down.
you know most people who had them never destroyed them right?
lots of guys 3d printed mockups and used crappy cameras in bad lighting as "proof of destruction of illegally property"
Legalize Ghost Guns! It’s my right to protect myself!
Personally made firearms have always been a thing and always been legal. They predate this country even if we are just talking about the practice on the land we now called the united state of America.
ffs WHY DID RICKETTS vote no WHY FFS do ur job
There are far more injuries and deaths from alcohol related incidents compared to guns……yet guns are always the focus, and under the pretense of “safety”…..gtfoh
Pete Ricketts is keeping blood on his hands
Good!
THEY'RE GIVING GUN'S AWAY LIKE CANDY 🍭 AND THEN WONDER WHY THERE IS SO MANY SHOOTINGS. AND ACT LIKE THEY'RE SURPRISED..LOL 😂😂😂
Yeah? Go get one then. Find out how easy it is. Don't lie about your drug usage now...
@@joemoe5619 all he needs is to go to a gun show
NO!, responsible hardworking taxpayers who are family loving and want to protect them are legally purchasing firearms and passing the proper paperwork requirements to do so! I’ve never gotten a free gun plus I work for a living so I’ve never gotten Free anything!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clown tell me youve never bought a gun before without telling me you never bought a gun before@@Wongseifu548
@@chuckst98 Chuck I’m right there with your brother. I’m another Chuck this worked all my life got nothing free either. In fact I lost all of my guns in a boating accident.😅🎉
lol whoops! That didn't work! Cry harder :)