How to master the HARDEST technique in piano playing! 🏋️ | Jeffrey Biegel
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- Опубліковано 29 вер 2024
- Jeffrey Biegel reveals the three ways to practice the difficult technique of playing double notes on the piano.
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Accenting the weak note is actually such a good tip, it has helped me a lot
Do you mean accenting the strong notes?
@@tubularvelociraptor6388. In the video he seems to be accenting some of the off-beats. Like the “and” of 1 and 3.
@@Pseudify ah I understand now thanks
When I used to play I would practice sort of like this by only playing the melody notes in a chord and just feathering the other notes.
Great
this is especially hard in Fuex Follet! but we all know who did it really well besides from Kissin 🥴
Yunchan lim!
Cziffra.
@user-zz5je1ry1oWell you missed it the first go!😅
Jeffrey Biegel!
This is great. Reminds me of some language tips I learned doing my Spanish degree. For example in a long, hard word to say, you just say the last syllable, and then the last two, and work backwards until you have the whole thing. By learning the end of it first, you don't feel that painful stumble as you rush into it because you already know it.
Yes, working on things backwards in music helps, I do it often
intrahand voicing is the bane of my existence 😩
But it's so satisfying😭😭
The beauty of playing so poorly that you don't have to think about it ...
I will NEVER understand the point of practicing changing the rhythm or phrasing. Why develop the wrong muscle memory ? What on EARTH for ?
Reversing things helps your brain separate, organise, process... you basically look at it from all angles and untangle, then play it the right way with ease. That's how it feels from my experience when I do this kind of practise, and I do this kind of practise when I need to untangle things. I wouldn't practise everything like this, only when necessary. My brain is already pretty trained to bring up melodies within chords.
When it comes to rhythms, it's designed for speed, isn't it? You break down long, fast passages and play fast notes in groups of 2, then 3, then 4.... eventually the whole passage fast and EVEN.
People do it because it works.
It’s the purpose of drilling the action needed in a variety of ways vs just learning the one specific and/or prescribed way being asked. Be over prepared to avoid being under prepared. Same thing with scales: practice different rhythms, articulation, range of dynamics, from different starting points (don’t always start on “Do”), different directions (parallel and contrary), etc…
Try godowsky its all about doing this
Godowsky was obsessed with contrapuntal playing within a single hand and studied/self-taught Taneyev counterpoint textbook, and this study culminated in countless possibilities of contrapuntal playing all within five fingers of compact left hand. Studying Godowsky's pieces are a boundless joy of physical playing of hands and also ears.
These tips always make me want to stop what I am doing and go practice. I love it! Thank you for your excellent content!
in my experience it can help to sing the voice you want to bring out while playing all voices. Like shouting at you hand what you want;-)
A great pianist who has Keith Noel Emerson's Piano Concerto in his repertoire and plays it brilliantly!
Had a lesson with Jeffrey last year at Sonatina piano camp in Vermont. Fun, great lesson and his co cert later that day was fantastic.
He’s my teacher so I know exactly what you mean! I use the add-on technique and many of his performance/teaching methods as I practice, perform, and teach.
I really like this channel because every single video is helpful and informative. It’s very pleasant and also useful to watch your experts.
Agree 100%
Insanely valuable practicing advice
None of those examples was relevant to making different voices clear when played by the same nand.
As a pianist, I'd add on the method of gripping. When you bring out important voices, whichever fingering you use, grip firmly with your finger. This will help bring out the voice more than the unimportant ones and will make the note 'ring.'
I'll throw in one more:
Playing triplets in the upper voice for every one note in the lower voice, and vice versa, slow to fast.
One of the best exercises I've ever tried for double notes.
My great professor
Mine too!
This two finger technique in Feux Follets is so hard 😢
I want this dude asmy piano teacher
If you live in NY he teaches at the conservatory of music at Brooklyn College. Other than that you can probably have a virtual lesson.
Great tips
Is this include chopin’s étude opus 10 no 3 espically the melodical first part ? ( I know it’s includes for middle part)
He is a wonderful pianist and musician without a doubt I just don’t think what he explains works in any way. Chopin proposes something similar in his Etudes op. Posth. But what is intended is to teach teh movement he thought was needed to play double notes in general. Thanks for all the wonderful videos though
I assure you I use these exact methods and have had much success over the years with it. I see and hear the great difference and improvement in my technique and overall musicianship as a performer.
@@dontedriskell thats great!
I always play op 10 no 2 slowly and then give f.e. the thumb the main voice or give the chromatic scale the main voice.
Valuable tips-thank you!
Some useful....and very logical, workable tips.
Thank you!😊
Great advice, tried and tested! Works wonderfully!
As an opera singer, i play everything cantabile, i can't help it. Of course i will never be a concert pianist in this lifetime
Another tip is to imagine playing the note you need to emphasize first
Chopin also has a lot of this!
Yes, it's all over the romantic repertoire.
That hurt my brain AND fingers, just watching it. Maybe one day I’ll get there.
Wasn't he in the Sopranos?
This technique legit make or breaks the first movement of moonlight sonata
It's been many years since I played it or listened to it, but as I recall, it's not chords, it's consecutive notes, like Schubert impromptu op 90 n 3, isn't it? I think the video is more about harmonising with 1 hand.
Add on tech a gr8 idea
Good lord
Jj
Organ players get this. Holding notes or playing melody with the 4 and 5 and playing chords with 123.
Fun fact: The Art of Fugue can help with developing the Art of Piano. Tatiana Nikolayeva just mastered this adding an emotional character.
Good advice. I have actually been doing that for awhile now and it works.
What is this two notes with one hand technique called?
Double note technique! Usually playing a mixed sequence of harmonic 3rds, 4ths, 6ths
Ya quiero volver a tocar el piano.... todas son las que conozco y son muuuuuy útiles. También ayuda a la memoria mental y muscular... y a destacar las notas de canto
No better composer for that than Godowsky!
Jeffrey Biegel is an incredible pianist and professor. He learned all of this from studying with Morton Estrin and Adele Marcus. I so regret that I haven't studied with Morton Estrin.
You should also regret that you didn’t study with Adele Marcus too as she was a dynamic artist revered by most of her contemporaries! The good news is many of her pupils are still here and I highly recommended one of the greatest of them all, Mr. Jeffrey Biegel
As a casual piano player, but with years of experience, this is a very interesting point that I’ve never thought of
Self taught?
I needed this
Thank you!
Thank you
The first classical piece I learned was the moonlight sonata. A mentor pointed out to me that in when the melody started, I was rolling my hand rather than playing the two notes simultaneously with the high note accented. I didn’t even notice I was doing it, but it changed my playing forever. (Eventually I tried Rachmaninov prelude 23 9 and my goodness, it’s so difficult to keep that up and accent notes as well!)😅
You mean the prelude in G minor Alla Marcia? I'm awful with numbers
Hmmm. I find the most difficult part in playing piano is - not only practicing but CONTINUING practicing and battling boredom. Which is 99% of being a pianist - being able to battle boredom.
Not everyone finds it boring lol If you like paying attention to detail and do it with love of music (get creative while you practise, not monotonous), then you're alright.
Speak for yourself. Did you survey thousands pianists to make this idiotic comment?