There couldn’t be a teacher like him to this world. He remained a LAMP himself forever for the world - he showed us the “World of Only LIGHT” which is everything.
Absolutely.If Truth can be experienced,then there will be as many versions of it,as there are individuals narrating their personal experience of what they perceive is the Truth..Any experience,whether it is of the Truth or otherwise,will be subjective,based on individual likes and dislikes of the one experiencing it.This is the ultimate Truth.This means Truth cannot be an experience,which would make it an action.For Truth to be objective,it has to necessarily be the state of entire humanity.What is this Truth is another matter altogether,because,then, it will encompass not only humanity,but entire living beings.
To be free from knowledge, you need to stop wanting anything, to stop changing anything, to transform anything. As soon as we want something or someone we are not free.
In the end all is one, inclusive, we are part of this universe not as separated beings. Life's a mystery but playing with the mind and words can be fun
All memories should not interfere when one wants to go ahead and find the Truth - all our acccumulated experience through studies and personal experiences, and what is considered new technology. Both are not real. Thanks for the approach.
...all concepts.... anyone who has realized this (although there is no one) is not watching those UA-cam videos anymore (or posting remarks like this 😁
JIDDU said we must not be FREE of the consciousness of mankind but there must be FREEDOM from it. he actually means it, we must not be totally free from consciousness but there should be freedom from that by which we have the LIBERTY to discover and create and think in a new dimension I think this is the explanation for that questioner
Total facts, science facts, like being an engineer, is a good way to get people to understand what he is saying, but, it isn't as easy to understand for some people, when it comes to the psychological mind and beyond it. Say, what if the experience you have, in total reality, was somehow false? Yet, we could easily believe it to be total reality and we would convince ourselves it is totally true. It happens so so much already. We believe we are not good enough, or better than everyone else, and this could be based on what we have experienced. While the explanation of the engineer was clever, the psychological mind, and beyond it, is a totally different animal, and while that is a great starting point for people to understand this concept the speaker is talking about, it is kind of different with the psychological. We create our own reality based on what we feel is true, and we say, it is total fact. But, the question to be asked when someone says that, is, "Really, is it total Truth, with a capital T?" To me, just because you experience something, does not make it Truth, with a capital T. That is something a lot of people don't understand. That is a trap, a pitfall, in spirituality and the psychological. It is an obstacle that is hidden, people don't even know it is a trap on the non-path to greater awareness of yourself.
I think he says that learning should be used just to bring us to someplace , and then, from there forget what we've learned and adapt to the actual situation. So "knowledge" doesn't become a rock in the path, just like if you judge something new with the eyes you used to judge the past.
Truth is learned from experience. His talk seems to be based on only the emotional or feeling aspect of experience, and not include rationalizing to solve problems, not just personal but in work or whatever activity of endeavor, to better understand reasons why, cause and effect. For example, when completing a science degree the lectures often reminded us that obtaining the degree was just the beginning. What we do in applying the information, learning from mistakes, proving for oneself what is true or not. Application to experience, past, present and future, is only where the true work is done, to know.
he is talking about the absolute truth not the relative one. science works on relative truth which is based on (experience-thought) and this truth is relative to ignorance while the absolute truth is illumination and few people have come touch with it. this truth is not something you can find,think work or learn because is already there in the open in the only time there is,now. experience is based on the past therefore is fragmented and can only work in relative ways ( everything that science measures in the real world is actually really really accurate not truth) and this measured is brought by thinking which is again fragmented in its own way.
Professor Einstein is alleged to have said *WE CANNOT SOLVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SAME THINKING THAT CREATED THE PROBLEM.* Or similar words to that effect. Seems to me Krishnamurti is saying something similar. Humanity needs to go beyond what is already known. What is already known can be called "experience." We need to aim for truth . . . the totality of which is much bigger than what we know now. In other words thinking outside the box of what is known.
Here I am in disagreement with J.K. Meditation is the pure experience of truth, creation, what is and is continuously transformed. When you look, when you listen, alone, free what is and happens, the creation, the truth, without a word -this is our meditation, this is the experience of the truth, without accumulating anything, without memorizing anything -you are alone, you are Free, and experience the creation, the unnamed, the sacred ... If someone says he cannot experience, that he cannot meditate, then it means that he is already dead, insensitive, rigid ...
Even you can precive everything without a single word in your mind. But still there is an experiencer who experiences everything. .. Until the experiencer merges in the creation .. the flower of meditation will not bloom
Any experience will keep you bound within the realm of mind. Mind cannot perceive a thing outside time-space. Truth by definition has to be outside time-space. The moment you say any experience is truth you already are not seeing/perceiving truth.
Those who are on the top get it. Those who are not miss it or misunderstand it. JK teachings, especially this kind, not suitable for majority. When we are at A,B,C,D learning level, these do not help and in fact, they may mislead. One needs to work on oneself and reach to a level to understand this. However, some don't even need this.
There couldn’t be a teacher like him to this world. He remained a LAMP himself forever for the world - he showed us the “World of Only LIGHT” which is everything.
We free ourselves by the light of truth... nothing else...🌹🌹
Absolutely.If Truth can be experienced,then there will be as many versions of it,as there are individuals narrating their personal experience of what they perceive is the Truth..Any experience,whether it is of the Truth or otherwise,will be subjective,based on individual likes and dislikes of the one experiencing it.This is the ultimate Truth.This means Truth cannot be an experience,which would make it an action.For Truth to be objective,it has to necessarily be the state of entire humanity.What is this Truth is another matter altogether,because,then, it will encompass not only humanity,but entire living beings.
To be free from knowledge, you need to stop wanting anything, to stop changing anything, to transform anything. As soon as we want something or someone we are not free.
Desire is ingrained in the very nature of sapient sentient life.
Truth cannot be experienced because it is the fundamental experiencer, because of the TRUTH experience is possible.
What a unique man.
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In the end all is one, inclusive, we are part of this universe not as separated beings. Life's a mystery but playing with the mind and words can be fun
Thank you sir.
All memories should not interfere when one wants to go ahead and find the Truth - all our acccumulated experience through studies and personal experiences, and what is considered new technology. Both are not real. Thanks for the approach.
Super Valuable Content.
Every word is from your own experience, right!
Luving ur content
Everything you experience is the truth... it's all real...🌹🌹
There is fact and there is thought. That is all there is. Polar opposites. Nothing in between them.
The end of the “I am experience“ is the recognition, that there never was one. Real Separation is a dream.
Wonderful!! Yes yes and yes
How do you know about it ? Who has experienced it ? Who have come to conclusion ? It's the same old game
...all concepts.... anyone who has realized this (although there is no one) is not watching those UA-cam videos anymore (or posting remarks like this 😁
JIDDU said we must not be FREE of the consciousness of mankind but there must be FREEDOM from it.
he actually means it,
we must not be totally free from consciousness but there should be freedom from that by which we have the LIBERTY to discover and create and think in a new dimension
I think this is the explanation for that questioner
Total facts, science facts, like being an engineer, is a good way to get people to understand what he is saying, but, it isn't as easy to understand for some people, when it comes to the psychological mind and beyond it.
Say, what if the experience you have, in total reality, was somehow false? Yet, we could easily believe it to be total reality and we would convince ourselves it is totally true. It happens so so much already. We believe we are not good enough, or better than everyone else, and this could be based on what we have experienced.
While the explanation of the engineer was clever, the psychological mind, and beyond it, is a totally different animal, and while that is a great starting point for people to understand this concept the speaker is talking about, it is kind of different with the psychological.
We create our own reality based on what we feel is true, and we say, it is total fact. But, the question to be asked when someone says that, is, "Really, is it total Truth, with a capital T?"
To me, just because you experience something, does not make it Truth, with a capital T.
That is something a lot of people don't understand. That is a trap, a pitfall, in spirituality and the psychological.
It is an obstacle that is hidden, people don't even know it is a trap on the non-path to greater awareness of yourself.
I think he says that learning should be used just to bring us to someplace , and then, from there forget what we've learned and adapt to the actual situation. So "knowledge" doesn't become a rock in the path, just like if you judge something new with the eyes you used to judge the past.
Experienced makes the capacity of the experiencer to get freedom from the experience, and to find something not experienced .
Truth is learned from experience. His talk seems to be based on only the emotional or feeling aspect of experience, and not include rationalizing to solve problems, not just personal but in work or whatever activity of endeavor, to better understand reasons why, cause and effect.
For example, when completing a science degree the lectures often reminded us that obtaining the degree was just the beginning. What we do in applying the information, learning from mistakes, proving for oneself what is true or not.
Application to experience, past, present and future, is only where the true work is done, to know.
he is talking about the absolute truth not the relative one. science works on relative truth which is based on (experience-thought) and this truth is relative to ignorance while the absolute truth is illumination and few people have come touch with it. this truth is not something you can find,think work or learn because is already there in the open in the only time there is,now. experience is based on the past therefore is fragmented and can only work in relative ways ( everything that science measures in the real world is actually really really accurate not truth) and this measured is brought by thinking which is again fragmented in its own way.
Are we living in simulation 😢?
Nonetheless you (one) is that truth. It get lost in the explanation and in the doing
. You are.
Right don't focus on the finger!! You must give up where you think you are to find something separate from yourself, truth!!
Professor Einstein is alleged to have said *WE CANNOT SOLVE A PROBLEM WITH THE SAME THINKING THAT CREATED THE PROBLEM.* Or similar words to that effect. Seems to me Krishnamurti is saying something similar. Humanity needs to go beyond what is already known. What is already known can be called "experience." We need to aim for truth . . . the totality of which is much bigger than what we know now. In other words thinking outside the box of what is known.
If itis easy understood then every one is jk. No work no thought no action no fear no fréedom beauty compassion love. New dimension
Its means we are all single cells of one body 😊
No, Cell is a part and Body is the entire creation, You are not a part of the Creation, "YOU ARE THIS ENTIRE CREATION" . ❤❤❤❤❤❤
🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇🙇
Then what are the Gurus selling? In the name of Enlightenment and Freedom from Suffering!
Here I am in disagreement with J.K. Meditation is the pure experience of truth, creation, what is and is continuously transformed. When you look, when you listen, alone, free what is and happens, the creation, the truth, without a word -this is our meditation, this is the experience of the truth, without accumulating anything, without memorizing anything -you are alone, you are Free, and experience the creation, the unnamed, the sacred ... If someone says he cannot experience, that he cannot meditate, then it means that he is already dead, insensitive, rigid ...
Even you can precive everything without a single word in your mind. But still there is an experiencer who experiences everything. .. Until the experiencer merges in the creation .. the flower of meditation will not bloom
Any experience will keep you bound within the realm of mind. Mind cannot perceive a thing outside time-space. Truth by definition has to be outside time-space. The moment you say any experience is truth you already are not seeing/perceiving truth.
🌹Pl mention the title of the complete talk / the link 🙏( I am new here)
ua-cam.com/video/rxFrw9yu-FY/v-deo.html
Really hard to understand
I cant understand what he say
Then, You must/need to listen to it 1000 times. Until you understand
Those who are on the top get it. Those who are not miss it or misunderstand it. JK teachings, especially this kind, not suitable for majority. When we are at A,B,C,D learning level, these do not help and in fact, they may mislead. One needs to work on oneself and reach to a level to understand this. However, some don't even need this.
It is all same
Is quietness an experience or a non-experience
🤪j after over 6 minutes of him explaining that it's not!! you're still saying that 🤣
Look at there faces lol. We all think its fun and games till we here the truth.