I saw some Devils UA-camr cry aboutRasmussen's hit on Hughes at the end! WTF. He just took a hit while scoring--and came pretty close to hurting his knee. I have no idea how anybody can not see that was all on Hughes trying to smash a guy while he's potting an empty netter. So happy to see him wind up on his ass, and I wish Ras had actually thrown a reverse hit on him too!
@@HarrisMcGovern Let me go check Edit: I stand corrected, almost... Raymond had 13 to Larkins 14. So I'll correct myself here and say he has to get off the "Snide."
For as bad as the PK was all game, what a massive kill at the end on one of the worst penalties I’ve ever seen called, especially at such a crucial point in the game. Huge win. Love the emotion. LGRW
3 straight wins with Kasper in the line up. Just sayin…. Also glad you talked about how brutal the PK/PP was. No clue why Seider isn’t quarterbacking PP1.
@@a.N..... I bet anything Lalonde is fired before Christmas unless he does a 180. His def lines are horrible. I check every game to see if he does it right. And every game I’m disappointed. His coaching style doesn’t mesh at all with the team makeup. I say before Christmas because I bet Quenneville is taken by a team before then. I can’t say it will be Detroit but I bet a team grabs him. His off ice problems are not as important as his coaching history. Great win percentage and Stanley cups. He has been available since July first. The first team to fire their coach will probably sign him. With lalondes style Detroit has been outshot 153-77 ish in their 4 wins. I know there are a lot of haters out there but Detroit has a pretty strong top 6. Way stronger than that shot performance would say.
I wonder how much the illness in the locker room has affected their energy levels. Hopefully the emotions at the end of this game sparks us for this weekend.
Kane is the most talented player on the team by a lot. But his legs are gone and he is unwilling/unable to win the puck. But this game when he was finally put in the correct position/role on the power play - the point, handling the puck like a point guard and hogging it rather than trying to make everyone feel special by handling the puck - demonstrated what he is and can do. And what the team needs to do to unlock him at even strength. They need to do everything they can to put him in a position like the one he was in tonight on those last 2 power plays - handling the puck in the o-zone w time and space and everyone set up. Or just handling it in the o-zone period w other guys in threat positions. Kane should be w Larkin. He has now assisted on all 3 of Larkin's non empty net goals. Kane at 5v5 wo Larkin is getting destroyed. He's turned into a giant liability who loses the play constantly and whose lines get worked over all night. And there is also the opportunity cost, which is even worse. You are not getting what offense you could be getting from him at even strength.
@@woady7073 It's not even that - he has a good stick, even a great one when interested, but he's just always a step or a step and a half slow to the puck. This is a small amount but makes a huge difference in puck retrievals.
what were the scoring chances? Not saying they have to stop being outshot, but if the quality of the shots they give up isn't good, that could also indicate they're forcing opponents to take weak shots.
@@BurtTurbo The scoring chances were about as awful as the SOG. It's harder to check them now.. but I can tell you that when I looked after each game.. it was bad.
Do we leave Husso in GR all season to keep Kaspar up? Current 2 GKs are doing well, so I see no need to change them. Would just need to ensure Cossa gets 60% of the games in GR to keep his progress going ready for next season. Loved Ras at the end. Happy with a bit of aggression. But can we stop taking stupid minor penalties.
Husso doesn’t effect kasper. Motte will. Lalonde will send kasper down when motte is back. Really stupid move but considering Lalonde is playing Holl instead of johannson shows that he prefers vets.
The problem with this system is they expect the d to carry the puck up the ice if there is an open lane for them, unfortunately only seider and edvinson can do this effectively, holl has looked better but once the puck is below the circles even he mostly looks lost on what to do and if they dump the puck the wings forwards are too small to get the puck out of corners. The only way this sytem works is with younger players like asp and johansen, honestly i think it's about time to bring asp over to play for the griffins, he is scoring a point per game and there is no competition left for him in europe, give him a chance, if he shines in gr i dont give a crap about preserving entry level contracts, bring him up because 3/4 of your d are the problem, either that or you go get some bigger forwards to mix in with smaller guys to win bowrd battles but at this point itd be not feasible to fix this small forward heavy roster, and you can ride this out another year but their lack of puck moving defenseman is going to cost them a playoff spot.
Lalonde when asked about it today literally laughed and said no. So there's your answer. Wouldn't want to repeat a wildly successful strategy or anything.
If you look at the stats both teams were close to being equal in face offs, penalty minutes, block shots, giveaways, takeaways, Wings 50% and NJ 60% on power plays, NJ out hit them the Wings. 4O shots for NJ and 20 shots for Detroit. How many shots did NJ get on the powerplays as the result of BAD ref calls. NJ failed to keep Detroit from getting 20 shots on the net which means Detroit will score 3-4 goals unless the opponents goalie is hot. Fisher type goals are needed just go to the net if Joe V is fore-checking. The puck seems to bounce around at times and end up on NJ sticks. NJ now has more loses then Detroit. NJ high lite reel goals right lol! They need to carry the puck out more then chipping out.
Compher,Seider,kasper,kane, Larkin, Raymond,tarenseko, Good back end to ....🤔 Should have way more wins but husso was ok Brian & Scott... thoughts on that?
The system from Blashill and now LaLonde is horrendous. Since both coaches are trying to implement the same system, I have to believe this is what Yzerman wants. Are the Griffens not playing the same way?
Wasn't the greatest game, but the Wings are showing signs of "slowly" putting things together. Now that I've seen them together they shouldn't break up Seider - Edvinsson. Yzerman still needs to address the D if possible at the deadline though if we are in or near playoff position.
These wins are nice. But let’s get real here on defensive play. It’s just simply not playoff calibre and won’t be come Feb and March. They need to dial it in as last year they out scored these issues and the optics were the wings took a step ahead, when they really didn’t. If they are serious about being a playoff team…. They need an overhaul either on the system or personnel on the back end (aside from Seider and Edvinsson)
the fact we’ve won the last 3 games is straight comedy. no forecheck, d-zone coverage still looks weak, special teams are indeed playing special, not in a good way. this just straight up is not sustainable, we’ve looked bad all 7 games we’ve played
Please no... Dude is fast and is always in the right place but never does anything when he gets there. I'd rather bring up some guys to replace him at this point and trade him for a pick.
Absolutely hate it being the main way the wings play. We got like 4 guys that will actually transition and try to make a play. But dump and chase is destroying our talent
Man... that game was ugly. We won, and that's the most important part, and while I don't particularly care about crap like "the deserve-to-win-o-meter", we really didn't deserve to win this one. But I'm not complaining! So long as we keep winning, I don't care how it looks. But this is unsustainable.
@@bar383 I played I 100 percent bet I played at a higher level then you - AAA Major juniors east and more , buddy what do you play for what record midget B lol fool who says that
Wings homers are maybe the most embarrassing in the league. Kane should be on the 1st line w Larkin and Lalonde today admitted the goal was to wean Raymond off of Larkin and eventually let him carry his own line. ie, Ray will be 2nd line and the play driver on it. Not your random army of 3rd and 4th liners.
The Ras taunt at the end was awesome Hughes tried to bully Ras and humiliated himself 😂
I saw some Devils UA-camr cry aboutRasmussen's hit on Hughes at the end! WTF. He just took a hit while scoring--and came pretty close to hurting his knee. I have no idea how anybody can not see that was all on Hughes trying to smash a guy while he's potting an empty netter. So happy to see him wind up on his ass, and I wish Ras had actually thrown a reverse hit on him too!
Axel Sandin Pellikka 13 points in 13 games!🔥
Raymond need to start shooting more.
Also loved the way Raz went full "Rick Flair" after his goal 😆
I believe Ray is actually leading the team in shot attempts.
@@HarrisMcGovern Let me go check
Edit: I stand corrected, almost... Raymond had 13 to Larkins 14. So I'll correct myself here and say he has to get off the "Snide."
@@rodneydoucet8584 honestly no one on the team has nearly enough shots on goal or shot attempts. the whole team is super low.
For as bad as the PK was all game, what a massive kill at the end on one of the worst penalties I’ve ever seen called, especially at such a crucial point in the game. Huge win. Love the emotion. LGRW
Hawk fan here! I swear that was the
Worst call I have ever
Sceen!
3 straight wins with Kasper in the line up. Just sayin…. Also glad you talked about how brutal the PK/PP was. No clue why Seider isn’t quarterbacking PP1.
They are hoping gus can turn it around and play like he used to in chicago
I was about to swear this was Kasper's second game.....shows how memorable that Islanders game was 😂
@@a.N.....I think a new coach would help this. Lalonde def first style doesn’t promote puck moving defensemen.
@JackConrad-e4v i want to have faith in old gru behind the bench but if this year isn't better than last year, It may be his last year as bench boss.
@@a.N..... I bet anything Lalonde is fired before Christmas unless he does a 180. His def lines are horrible. I check every game to see if he does it right. And every game I’m disappointed. His coaching style doesn’t mesh at all with the team makeup. I say before Christmas because I bet Quenneville is taken by a team before then. I can’t say it will be Detroit but I bet a team grabs him. His off ice problems are not as important as his coaching history. Great win percentage and Stanley cups. He has been available since July first. The first team to fire their coach will probably sign him. With lalondes style Detroit has been outshot 153-77 ish in their 4 wins. I know there are a lot of haters out there but Detroit has a pretty strong top 6. Way stronger than that shot performance would say.
I wonder how much the illness in the locker room has affected their energy levels. Hopefully the emotions at the end of this game sparks us for this weekend.
What’s the illness?
@@rh21992 flu
Flu
How we always sick or hurt. Fuck sakes. Fluke wins
Getting important wins early.
Kane is the most talented player on the team by a lot. But his legs are gone and he is unwilling/unable to win the puck. But this game when he was finally put in the correct position/role on the power play - the point, handling the puck like a point guard and hogging it rather than trying to make everyone feel special by handling the puck - demonstrated what he is and can do. And what the team needs to do to unlock him at even strength. They need to do everything they can to put him in a position like the one he was in tonight on those last 2 power plays - handling the puck in the o-zone w time and space and everyone set up. Or just handling it in the o-zone period w other guys in threat positions.
Kane should be w Larkin. He has now assisted on all 3 of Larkin's non empty net goals. Kane at 5v5 wo Larkin is getting destroyed. He's turned into a giant liability who loses the play constantly and whose lines get worked over all night. And there is also the opportunity cost, which is even worse. You are not getting what offense you could be getting from him at even strength.
Dude get off his sack. Gosh I see you on every red wings content just slurping Kane’s dong. Yeah he’s good. He’s also old, we get it.
He actually did much better this game at fighting for the puck. At least better than normal.
@@woady7073 It's not even that - he has a good stick, even a great one when interested, but he's just always a step or a step and a half slow to the puck. This is a small amount but makes a huge difference in puck retrievals.
lets go... beat them wild card rivals early..... that was a yves racine kinda game :)
Yes sir
If we can get some wins while we are shaky, once we get it together we’ll be looking okay in the standings
Throw back, not alot of ppl gonna remember Yves lol
@@rh21992 totally agree, it's better to not chase when your struggling. Get some wins, and try to fix your game
So…. We were talking about unsustainable shooting percentages…. Crazy
In their 4 wins, the Wings have been out-shot 153-77
Not a winning formula
what were the scoring chances? Not saying they have to stop being outshot, but if the quality of the shots they give up isn't good, that could also indicate they're forcing opponents to take weak shots.
😳
@@BurtTurbo The scoring chances were about as awful as the SOG. It's harder to check them now.. but I can tell you that when I looked after each game.. it was bad.
Puck possession is the number one killer of our offense, the rest of the time they are making poor passes or just straight up dumping.
this podcast is a w
Do we leave Husso in GR all season to keep Kaspar up? Current 2 GKs are doing well, so I see no need to change them. Would just need to ensure Cossa gets 60% of the games in GR to keep his progress going ready for next season. Loved Ras at the end. Happy with a bit of aggression. But can we stop taking stupid minor penalties.
Husso doesn’t effect kasper. Motte will. Lalonde will send kasper down when motte is back. Really stupid move but considering Lalonde is playing Holl instead of johannson shows that he prefers vets.
The problem with this system is they expect the d to carry the puck up the ice if there is an open lane for them, unfortunately only seider and edvinson can do this effectively, holl has looked better but once the puck is below the circles even he mostly looks lost on what to do and if they dump the puck the wings forwards are too small to get the puck out of corners. The only way this sytem works is with younger players like asp and johansen, honestly i think it's about time to bring asp over to play for the griffins, he is scoring a point per game and there is no competition left for him in europe, give him a chance, if he shines in gr i dont give a crap about preserving entry level contracts, bring him up because 3/4 of your d are the problem, either that or you go get some bigger forwards to mix in with smaller guys to win bowrd battles but at this point itd be not feasible to fix this small forward heavy roster, and you can ride this out another year but their lack of puck moving defenseman is going to cost them a playoff spot.
Can Kane qb every PP?
Lalonde when asked about it today literally laughed and said no. So there's your answer. Wouldn't want to repeat a wildly successful strategy or anything.
If you look at the stats both teams were close to being equal in face offs, penalty minutes, block shots, giveaways, takeaways, Wings 50% and NJ 60% on power plays, NJ out hit them the Wings. 4O shots for NJ and 20 shots for Detroit. How many shots did NJ get on the powerplays as the result of BAD ref calls. NJ failed to keep Detroit from getting 20 shots on the net which means Detroit will score 3-4 goals unless the opponents goalie is hot. Fisher type goals are needed just go to the net if Joe V is fore-checking. The puck seems to bounce around at times and end up on NJ sticks. NJ now has more loses then Detroit. NJ high lite reel goals right lol! They need to carry the puck out more then chipping out.
Compher,Seider,kasper,kane, Larkin, Raymond,tarenseko, Good back end to ....🤔 Should have way more wins but husso was ok Brian & Scott... thoughts on that?
Wait i see my boy husso got waived. Im just getting back to the HockeyTown.
What happen to Marco Kasper & husso? Roster looks solid just dam!!!! After reading the comments i see hes here #MOTORCITY
The system from Blashill and now LaLonde is horrendous. Since both coaches are trying to implement the same system, I have to believe this is what Yzerman wants. Are the Griffens not playing the same way?
At least Lalonde doesn't pull the goalie excessively when we're losing
Wasn't the greatest game, but the Wings are showing signs of "slowly" putting things together. Now that I've seen them together they shouldn't break up Seider - Edvinsson. Yzerman still needs to address the D if possible at the deadline though if we are in or near playoff position.
These wins are nice. But let’s get real here on defensive play. It’s just simply not playoff calibre and won’t be come Feb and March. They need to dial it in as last year they out scored these issues and the optics were the wings took a step ahead, when they really didn’t. If they are serious about being a playoff team…. They need an overhaul either on the system or personnel on the back end (aside from Seider and Edvinsson)
Spider needs to stay
Out of the box more.
Someone let the Red Wings get hot
The shot differential is a numbers game the wings cannot win
Why is Gustaffson on PP1?
Your audio is off in this one
the fact we’ve won the last 3 games is straight comedy. no forecheck, d-zone coverage still looks weak, special teams are indeed playing special, not in a good way. this just straight up is not sustainable, we’ve looked bad all 7 games we’ve played
lol segment 4 lol
They should put Veleno on second line with Kane and Tarasenko and give it a shot
Certainly worth a try and might just turn Joe's career around.
@@Watching-hb7pb yup
Please no... Dude is fast and is always in the right place but never does anything when he gets there. I'd rather bring up some guys to replace him at this point and trade him for a pick.
I am so sick of the dump and chase they do. They dump it and show no effort to get the puck and they end up defending non stop
Absolutely hate it being the main way the wings play. We got like 4 guys that will actually transition and try to make a play. But dump and chase is destroying our talent
Please listen to the most recent 32 Thoughts podcast at 35:20, push play and enjoy! Hilarious segment on the DRW!!!!!
Man... that game was ugly. We won, and that's the most important part, and while I don't particularly care about crap like "the deserve-to-win-o-meter", we really didn't deserve to win this one. But I'm not complaining! So long as we keep winning, I don't care how it looks. But this is unsustainable.
Down 3-1 comeback to 3-3 and chokes.. signs of a failed organisation
Overreaction Brian still in play
I feel sorry for the fans.. always being set up by disappointment
It amazes me how you some how are winning games.. you getting slapped by the buffalo sabres... forfeit the season come back next season..
Bruh I feel sorry for the fans.. supporting a trash team.. easy lose
Lost 5-3.. failed organisation
This team is a farce
Easy buddy PlayStation nhl play
Or may be more your speed lol
Keep the faith
@@DarrellDJP84 I dont play video games. I play hockey fool
@@bar383 I played I 100 percent bet I played at a higher level then you - AAA Major juniors east and more , buddy what do you play for what record midget B lol fool who says that
@@bar383 play the game for 27 years and come back to me bud
Kane down to the 3rd line, Kasper/Copp/Bergers up to the second
Wings homers are maybe the most embarrassing in the league. Kane should be on the 1st line w Larkin and Lalonde today admitted the goal was to wean Raymond off of Larkin and eventually let him carry his own line. ie, Ray will be 2nd line and the play driver on it. Not your random army of 3rd and 4th liners.