That propane oil can also make the inner liner of the hoses swell and choke off the propane vapor. Check the low pressure hose to the carburetor occasionally.That kicked my butt about 25 years ago when I was a forklift mechanic. I have the same blue DuroMax dual fuel 10K unit and I love it.
This was a great, general knowledge overview video. The commentary was super relevant, and the advice was well placed. Thanks for taking the time to do this. I feel a lot better about how to think thru the issues of propane vs. gas use. I hope you'll consider making other videos about generator usage.
Thanks for the comment. I will likely do another video when I hook up my 50amp receptacle. I'm just not in a big hurry to do that. I have a few other projects that are taking precedence.
It started right up. That was a true first start. Gotta say, so far these generators are a good buy. So nice to have this kind of back up power for that price. Thanks for coming by to watch.
I ordered a DuraMax 15000 and just gotten it oiled up. My house is fully electric and I wanted to be able to run mostly everything with my 50 amp grid plug in. I think I will be alright with this one. I also rigged up a butane wall heater hanging unit for emergency back-up heating. There’s a smaller 4,000 predator generator on the back porch for my two deep freezers and spare refrigerator. It struggled to run all three of them without tripping the breaker. I’m thinking of upgrading that switch to around 20 amps to help it generate more electricity.
With two generators, one 13Kw and one 10Kw, I run everything easily. I had a yanmar 5kw, and it ran 2 freezers, a refrigerator, and a remote 10000btu ac. The problem with the smaller generators is that if too many of the appliances start their compressor at the same time, it can really bogg the generator down. Usually, people have been a while without electricity, start a generator, and plug everything in at once. The freezers and refrigerators all turn on the compressors and that's where the problem occurs. If you plug one in, let it get to temp, then another, it is unlikely they will all run their compressors at the same time. Even then, it's the starting watts that really add up. The running watts should be much less. You probably know this though.
I have the durastar ds12000eh I run ethanol free gasoline only. It does run fine on propane and I do have a few 20lb propane tanks. But another very important tip is to shut the gas line off and let it burn out the gas in the carburetor. I keep it full of ethanol free gas for 5 plus years. Regular 10% ethanol gas destroys carburetors. And this is why the manufacturer suggest draining the tank but if you run ethanol free gas this is not an issue. I am in Florida and I keep 75 gallons of ethanol free gasoline in storage at all times.
That is exactly what I do. I keep a little more on standby, but I have a lot of equipment that needs non ethanol. I'm actually in the process of switching out some old stock before gas goes up much more. I have a 200hp Yamaha outboard and if you put ethanol gas in it, it will bitch and moan till it gets cleared out. I'm all about non ethanol gas. We keep several 150 gallon propane tanks full in addition to 10 twenty pound tanks. If you live in a hurricane zone, you know how fast fuel can get used up.
I keep 20 five gallon plastic tanks and a 30 gallon steel gas caddy. I keep this liquid gas in addition the tanks of propane. One week without power will pretty much wipe this stock of liquid gas out, two weeks, and the propane will be gone as well.
The exact thing just happened with me. Same freight company. Tractor supply sold my generator to me and it probably came from the same location. On top of the ridiculous shipping and lack of communication, I also didn't get the generator I paid for. It was supposed to be dual-fuel. It's gas only! The website plainly says dual-fuel but there is some funny stuff going on with the SKU number.
I added a watt meter to show how many watts I'm using and what I have left to use. It also has an alarm you can set to let you know when you are getting close to the running watts. Later
I bought a DuroMax 10,000W GENERATOR in 2017 used it once- running only propane had no problems so i ordered 2 more for 2 sister a 10,000 W and a 4500 W propane use only all 3 whole house hook-ups and just ordered another one for use at a rental property used a EZ GENERATOR SWITCH TO keep the boiler running in case of a power outage ..another 4500
That is so awesome. I felt such a sense of relief when I bought the 13kw to go with the 10kw. I paid around 700 for the 10kw on an amazing sale and about 1400 or 1500, for the 13kw. Now, if you watch the Amazon prime sales, you can still get the 13kw under 1000 bucks. Between my parents, my sister, and my family, we have 8 generators. Five are 10kw or better. The good thing is, if we ever had to fall back to our off grid place, we can easily bring the generators with us. That's one of the things I like most about these. They are portable.
@@TheSHOP411 yes love the portability, the genrac is kool. Completely automated the wife's oldest sister has one ,the only downside is in a grid down scenario if the natural gas grid goes down then she's sht out of luck ,it's hook to the natural gas line and if she has to bug out ...can't take it with her but it's convenient for her now she's 76years old ,🫡
@@Jim-bx7vs perfectly understandable to have one for a woman at that age. If she has to bug out, there better be some good men there to take care of her. Those stand alone generators are very nice, but in order to keep the warranty, you must sign up for a maintenance plan or show that you did the maintenance. Also, I have seen them fail a time or two and it's usually at a time then a maintenance crew cannot assist, like during a hurricane. I've actually seen a couple of people have their system fail and not be able to get help for several weeks due to an overwhelming demand for service technicians.
@@TheSHOP411 all that you said makes sense to me this was my wife's oldest sister I was talking about and she's married to a nice guy but he's the type that has $$$$$ and always trys to one up everyone else in the families I was the one that had the first generator , because I followed a lot of pepper channels and started prepping in 2017 when I retired so I spread what I knew to the rest of the family mostly the wife's and 2 sisters allowed me to help them get set up with the DuroMax units like mine then 2 years later the elder sis wanted info on getting one but husband wanted the Generac I even suggested get the propane hook up but he stuck with the natural gas, I mention about the gas grid being compromised but ..some people you can teach others have to learn the hard way everything you said about the warranty and maintenance plan she said they had that plan so that's that
Helpful video, I had to deal with L&R they are disorganized, had to wait over a week to receive my generator while it sat on their dock, also they stated it was already delivered. Thanks for the tips.
They are so disorganized. The only reason they still exist is because they are the only freight service in this area. If you ever go there, it's a massive sh#t show. I talked with two other people picking up products, and one guy had been given the run around for months on a lift kit he ordered. Thanks for watching and glad to help. Hopefully 5he tips will help if you ever run into those fuel issues we had.
FYI Will not run heat pump! Make sure and have backup plan to heat your home. I use the Buddy propane heater does a fair job to use for heat! My 12,000 will run my A/C and lights!
My 10000 easily runs a 4 ton AC unit. I am going to put in a 50 amp inlet vox and see if the 13000 will run one heat strip. If it doesn't, I have many small space heaters, and a fireplace. We won't freeze. We are way in the south so heat is only an issue a few times a year. But, you are absolutely correct to have backup to the backup
That is the problem I’m having now. When I need it to run my 2 ton heat pump HVAC during a loss of grid power in a hard hard freeze, it will not keep the HVAC heat on. The generator circuit breaker keeps tripping..and all I have on is the HVAC unit.
@@MrMnmn911 heat strips are going to pull way more amps because 9f the resistance involved. I may be that the amps are just to much for the generator. I am going to install a 50 amp receptacle because mine would not push just 1 heat strip on my house. I'm going to install the 50 amp receptacle on Feb 14th. I don't get much time off so this is going to be my first opportunity to get it done. I will post to let y'all know if running it with the 50 amp receptacle and 8 gauge wire makes a difference. Now, I have a backup plan. I bought several 750/1500 Watt space heaters for around 35 bucks on Amazon. You can run a quite a few of these and they will heat your rooms pretty well. You could run 4 or 5 and still have power to spare for refrigerators and freezers and lights. Now, I have a 10kw and a 13kw so I can really go all out, but if you have a 10kw or better, just get some space heaters. You'll still be way ahead of most everyone else out there.
It's the diverter switch. You may be able to clean it, but I would call duromax and ask them if they can send you a new one and see what happens. We were treated very well by the people at duromax
Break in period will determine how long these generator will last. It took me 4 oil changes until I stopped seeing aluminum flakes in the oil. And the break in is very important to the power producing. Break them in under a small load and gradually increase the load , change the oil and repeat. Then change the oil every 20 hours. And they should last for years.
Poor packaging is not always the merchants fault, but many times the shippers. They tend to rough handle packages at times. Anyhow good presentation :o)
Very, very true. I highly doubt it started out like this from the manufacturer. The forklift driver told me that several had been returned just that day due to damage and the inability to start them. Mine is doing well right now but I think it needs a new battery. I have to pull start it to run.
You might want to check out butanol. apperently you can run it in gas engines. i was looking at fuels and it popped it up google. some website chemcentral has it for 195 for 55 gal drum. It can be stored for a long time unlike gasoline. it's made from corn like ethanol but has properties more similar to gas. Also, might want to check out a station that has pure gasoline. The ethanol in the gas gum up fast and absorb moisture form the air and generally our gas at stations is not very good...It's not like they used to make it.
Thanks Jin. I will look into butanol. I do use real, pure gas, no ethanol, in everything but my truck. I treat my gas and diesel with Pri-g and Pri-d for long term storage.
@@TheSHOP411 you see you always have goid advise ,I've been using sta-bil for storing long term gas storage ,never heard of Pri-g and pri-d I'm assuming d is for diesel ( don't have anything diesel) but I'm going to research this see you learn something new everyday thanks 🫡
I have that same XP10000EH, when I start it and put it on idle it turns off, and it one of the red lights are on...would you know why...I bought it last yr but just started up few weeks ago for the first time...Thanks.
It's hard to troubleshoot that issue without being able to see it for myself. The red light could be the battery light. There is also a low RPM switch. Something may be going on with that. When it starts, how long does it run before it stalls? It could be a fuel issue. That would be my first inclination. Are you on gasoline or propane. Try the other whichever one you are using.
@@TheSHOP411 I'm using used propane, it is the battery light that comes on...maybe I need to charge it since it was in the shed for almost a yr...Thanks for your help
@@bze06fishinbwai63 also, on the 10000eh, there is a choke lever. If it starts and struggles for a bit, that is normal. You will have to flip that lever to the run position. Might be as simple as that.
My dad worked in a refinery most all his life. He was pretty high up. He didn't seem convinced either, but where does the oil come from? Anyway, maybe it was a one off issue, but I will be watching very closely when I run my propane tanks. You definitely don't want to have that issue when the grid is down, but at least we know the work around and how to keep it going. There is a pretty big group of RV'ers blogging about the ethyl mercaptan fouling their regulators on their RVs, so that is what sent me down that path.
We used to irritate with pumps ran with engines running on propane, you can go years and no problems then out of the blue the regulators would fill up with that nasty smelling oily goo. Not very often but it does happen.
@@MrShanegoldman thanks for the comment Shane. So many people don't seem to know anything about this. Doing a lot of research on this and there are fuel line designs out there that are used specifically to stop this from happening. So, it is a real thing. Thanks for chiming in.
I have a 12k Duramax dual. In 2018 during Hurricane Maria ihad rouse it. Even though I tested it prior, the propane wasn't reliable. Nightmare failure. Later I contacted Duramax and I replaced the regulator.
We had two separate issues and it was pretty tense until we figured it out. The issue with my dad's 13k was that fuel selector switch. I didn't have that problem bc the 10k doesn't have that switch. I filled 5 tanks at the local feed and seed and they had that oil in them that fouled up my regulator and before I realized I had a problem with that batch of propane, I had give my dad some of the tanks and it shut both of us down. We were able to figure how to to a bypass with gasoline on his and he got back up and running, and I was able to clear out the oil and run on just gasoline as well. I got pretty nervous but once we figured everything out, things ran nicely. I have heard that running propane from a larger tank doesn't cause as many issues.
Where is your transfer switch? For back-up heat i have a 23,800 btu dura heat kerosene heater but i use a kerosene alternative call KLEAN HEAT ITS FOR INDOOR USE,USE I T INSTEAD of k-1 kerosene
That sounds like a killer system. Our needs for heat do not necessitate a system that large. Here in the deep south, our deep cold spells rarely last more than several days. In the worst years, we may have a total of three weeks of dangerous cold and that is random throughout the winter. We can survive pretty easy for short stretches, unlike in the north where it can be several weeks to months of dangerous cold. My transfer switch is in my panel. A little vague on purpose
@@TheSHOP411 you're absolutely right, the cold starts in October to late March April with snow to back it up , I haven't had to use my kerosene heater yet and no loss of power lately so my generator Just sits idle for the time being ,listening to the issues you were having with your generator with the switching over from gas to propane I have the same 10,000W generator you have and I've had no problems, but I only use propane. No gas I enjoyed your channel very much and I will look out for the oil coming from the regulator that you described, have a good day 🙂
It is noisy, but I sleep pretty soundly and the noise is tolerable. I set it up in a place where the noise is not too bad. I will tell you this, when you are comfortable because you have ac in the sweltering summer heat after a hurricane, or you have warmth after a winter storm, the noise seems inconsequential. I really mean that. You almost don't care.
I learned electrical from my dad. He used to build houses with his dad, and in those days, you did everything. I sure wish I was half as good as him, but I know enough to get by and be safe. Really appreciate you commenting and watching. Not sure everyone would agree with everything I say in my videos, but I try to keep them somewhat interesting.
@@TheSHOP411 I saw all the comments I think you got thier attention and everyone is listening and from the comments includeding myself we all agree with all that you say ,you made it make sense there are a lot of new generator owners out there and you seem to be the new go to guy for advise so keep it coming it helps 🫡
That would be a good price. I went look but didn't see it for that price. Gat to make sure it's the duel fuel. I also wouldn't get the one with the automatic CO2 shut off. Thanks for watching.
I respect that totally. I do like the idea of multiple sources of fuel, and it did save my dad's bacon having the liquid gas option after we found out the transfer switches can go bad. It also helped me when I had the freak batch of propane with oil in it. I have since done a whole lot of research on that and a simple U trap in the propane gas line would alleviate any possibility of it ever happening again. Even having the hose lower than the regulator for a distance would likely solve that issue. Propane is still the best prepper fuel and I have several hundred gallons in different areas. I am still rotating gasoline and it's a PITA. Going tomorrow to fill 10 five gallon tanks with non ethanol gasoline before the price spikes.
@@TheSHOP411 yes I store propane, gasoline which is for the cars only and kerosene the gas I tread it with sta-bil but rotate it out after 2years the propane is self sufficient as is the kerosene close friends and family know I Prep for what ever comes my way ,if we get thru the blast then we're go to go ...l did order another generator not as big as the first one but as a back up, liked your idea of more than one ,I stuck with the DuroMax, they seem to work good for me and my sisters, they run propane as well,good luck to you and your Dad 🫡
@@Digidoc316 I address this in the video, first around 3:20 . You can order a Duramax and receive a Durostar. Made by the same people and considered the same generator by the manufacturer and by retailers. I was a bit skeptical, but after looking into it online, and calling the manufacturer, it's the same generator. I remember it had something to do with where it was built that they gave it one name or the other. My dad had a Duromax that was replaced with a Durostar under warranty. When he asked about the different name, he was told the Durostar was all that was available and it's the same generator. I have no ties to the company. Just giving you the info I have.
I don`t believe the propane OR the propane regulator is the problem. Check the engines valve cover for leaks on the engine just up above your propane regulator. These valve covers leak often on these chinese engines. They will drip oil down onto the propane regulator and give you a false diagnosis if you don`t know what your looking for. They begin to leak when the generator gets hotter. The valve cover and the gasket are poorly designed, that`s why they leak, or seep as the engine gets hotter. Once the engine cools off, the leak closes up. When it gets hot, the leak opens back up. As for your propane being an issue, you likely bought a bad batch from your supplier. I would buy it somewhere else.
I always run the gas out of the carb for storage over a day. I use Pri-G as an additive. It is by far the best I have found. It will actually bring old gas back to life. In the future, I will have a 84 gallon propane tank for the generators along with gasoline. Gas is much more efficient for the price if it is available. I have backups to the backups. I also stockpile fuel at another location that is in a very remote area.
I do appreciate your input and it is spot on correct. A lot of people I know buy generators and run them for a hurricane and when it's done, they put them up as is and don't think about them till the next storm. Then it's too late.
The oil came from the propane tanks. It was a bad batch from the feed and seed store. I can still use it for running my boiler but the tanks will have to be traded out. I went through the generator and I have rebuilt small engines all my life and I can say for 100%, the valves are not the problem. Rebuilding small engines is a hobby and I do know what I am doing. I can say, it took me a long time to get to the point of finding out it was the batch of propane. After doing some research, RV'ers deal with oil in propane quite often. There are treads all over about it. I only ran into the problem right after using the propane. After I stopped using the propane, I ran the genny for 4 days straight with no problem on gasoline. I did read that the problem is almost non existent once you go to a 40# tank or bigger.
Mine are still purring along on gas and propane. I did have some issues but once resolved, they are pretty good. Oh, the battery on the new one failed after a year so I manually start it. That kinda was a bummer.
@@ThunderChicken1 that does suck. I did UA-cam searches and was able to resolve my issues. I hope you can. Nothing worse than buying something and it doesn't work
Oil is coming from the air filter from blow back. These engines are notorious for this.
Thanks for commenting and providing that insight.
Any good fixes for this problem?
@@ZzzzZz-pk2yqsince the original problem, I haven't had any more issues with either one of my generators. I just think I had some bad propane.
That propane oil can also make the inner liner of the hoses swell and choke off the propane vapor. Check the low pressure hose to the carburetor occasionally.That kicked my butt about 25 years ago when I was a forklift mechanic. I have the same blue DuroMax dual fuel 10K unit and I love it.
This was a great, general knowledge overview video. The commentary was super relevant, and the advice was well placed. Thanks for taking the time to do this. I feel a lot better about how to think thru the issues of propane vs. gas use. I hope you'll consider making other videos about generator usage.
Thanks for the comment. I will likely do another video when I hook up my 50amp receptacle. I'm just not in a big hurry to do that. I have a few other projects that are taking precedence.
You have a way with words bro 😆.... I have to listen to this a few times just to learn them 😁
Thanks, I learned a lot more than generators 😉 🤜🤛
Yep! IT STARTED ON 1 Sec haha..... looking forward getting me one
It started right up. That was a true first start. Gotta say, so far these generators are a good buy. So nice to have this kind of back up power for that price. Thanks for coming by to watch.
I ordered a DuraMax 15000 and just gotten it oiled up. My house is fully electric and I wanted to be able to run mostly everything with my 50 amp grid plug in. I think I will be alright with this one. I also rigged up a butane wall heater hanging unit for emergency back-up heating. There’s a smaller 4,000 predator generator on the back porch for my two deep freezers and spare refrigerator. It struggled to run all three of them without tripping the breaker. I’m thinking of upgrading that switch to around 20 amps to help it generate more electricity.
With two generators, one 13Kw and one 10Kw, I run everything easily. I had a yanmar 5kw, and it ran 2 freezers, a refrigerator, and a remote 10000btu ac. The problem with the smaller generators is that if too many of the appliances start their compressor at the same time, it can really bogg the generator down. Usually, people have been a while without electricity, start a generator, and plug everything in at once. The freezers and refrigerators all turn on the compressors and that's where the problem occurs. If you plug one in, let it get to temp, then another, it is unlikely they will all run their compressors at the same time. Even then, it's the starting watts that really add up. The running watts should be much less. You probably know this though.
I have the durastar ds12000eh I run ethanol free gasoline only. It does run fine on propane and I do have a few 20lb propane tanks. But another very important tip is to shut the gas line off and let it burn out the gas in the carburetor. I keep it full of ethanol free gas for 5 plus years. Regular 10% ethanol gas destroys carburetors. And this is why the manufacturer suggest draining the tank but if you run ethanol free gas this is not an issue. I am in Florida and I keep 75 gallons of ethanol free gasoline in storage at all times.
That is exactly what I do. I keep a little more on standby, but I have a lot of equipment that needs non ethanol. I'm actually in the process of switching out some old stock before gas goes up much more. I have a 200hp Yamaha outboard and if you put ethanol gas in it, it will bitch and moan till it gets cleared out. I'm all about non ethanol gas. We keep several 150 gallon propane tanks full in addition to 10 twenty pound tanks. If you live in a hurricane zone, you know how fast fuel can get used up.
Yikes ! 75 gallons? That’s 13 6 gallon cans ??
I would advise keeping plenty of sta-bil additives as well!
I keep 20 five gallon plastic tanks and a 30 gallon steel gas caddy. I keep this liquid gas in addition the tanks of propane. One week without power will pretty much wipe this stock of liquid gas out, two weeks, and the propane will be gone as well.
I use Pri-G for gasoline, and Pri-D for diesel. From my research, this is the best fuel additive and it can restore fuel.
yo this dude has me dyin right now 🤣🤣😂😂 yet nervous for my purchase 😅😅
The exact thing just happened with me. Same freight company. Tractor supply sold my generator to me and it probably came from the same location. On top of the ridiculous shipping and lack of communication, I also didn't get the generator I paid for. It was supposed to be dual-fuel. It's gas only! The website plainly says dual-fuel but there is some funny stuff going on with the SKU number.
nice video..you are expert in everything..generator engine..very useful..
Thanks Amank. I definitely don't think I am an expert but I do like learning as much as I can.
Really good info man
I added a watt meter to show how many watts I'm using and what I have left to use. It also has an alarm you can set to let you know when you are getting close to the running watts. Later
Ok. Always learning. Going to look into this.
@@TheSHOP411 I have 2 video's of how I wired it in, on my channel. Later
I bought a DuroMax 10,000W GENERATOR in 2017 used it once- running only propane had no problems so i ordered 2 more for 2 sister a 10,000 W and a 4500 W propane use only all 3 whole house hook-ups and just ordered another one for use at a rental property used a EZ GENERATOR SWITCH TO keep the boiler running in case of a power outage ..another 4500
That is so awesome. I felt such a sense of relief when I bought the 13kw to go with the 10kw. I paid around 700 for the 10kw on an amazing sale and about 1400 or 1500, for the 13kw. Now, if you watch the Amazon prime sales, you can still get the 13kw under 1000 bucks. Between my parents, my sister, and my family, we have 8 generators. Five are 10kw or better. The good thing is, if we ever had to fall back to our off grid place, we can easily bring the generators with us. That's one of the things I like most about these. They are portable.
@@TheSHOP411 yes love the portability, the genrac is kool. Completely automated the wife's oldest sister has one ,the only downside is in a grid down scenario if the natural gas grid goes down then she's sht out of luck ,it's hook to the natural gas line and if she has to bug out ...can't take it with her but it's convenient for her now she's 76years old ,🫡
@@Jim-bx7vs perfectly understandable to have one for a woman at that age. If she has to bug out, there better be some good men there to take care of her. Those stand alone generators are very nice, but in order to keep the warranty, you must sign up for a maintenance plan or show that you did the maintenance. Also, I have seen them fail a time or two and it's usually at a time then a maintenance crew cannot assist, like during a hurricane. I've actually seen a couple of people have their system fail and not be able to get help for several weeks due to an overwhelming demand for service technicians.
@@TheSHOP411 all that you said makes sense to me this was my wife's oldest sister I was talking about and she's married to a nice guy but he's the type that has $$$$$ and always trys to one up everyone else in the families I was the one that had the first generator , because I followed a lot of pepper channels and started prepping in 2017 when I retired so I spread what I knew to the rest of the family mostly the wife's and 2 sisters allowed me to help them get set up with the DuroMax units like mine then 2 years later the elder sis wanted info on getting one but husband wanted the Generac I even suggested get the propane hook up but he stuck with the natural gas, I mention about the gas grid being compromised but ..some people you can teach others have to learn the hard way everything you said about the warranty and maintenance plan she said they had that plan so that's that
Helpful video, I had to deal with L&R they are disorganized, had to wait over a week to receive my generator while it sat on their dock, also they stated it was already delivered. Thanks for the tips.
They are so disorganized. The only reason they still exist is because they are the only freight service in this area. If you ever go there, it's a massive sh#t show. I talked with two other people picking up products, and one guy had been given the run around for months on a lift kit he ordered. Thanks for watching and glad to help. Hopefully 5he tips will help if you ever run into those fuel issues we had.
FYI Will not run heat pump! Make sure and have backup plan to heat your home. I use the Buddy propane heater does a fair job to use for heat! My 12,000 will run my A/C and lights!
My 10000 easily runs a 4 ton AC unit. I am going to put in a 50 amp inlet vox and see if the 13000 will run one heat strip. If it doesn't, I have many small space heaters, and a fireplace. We won't freeze. We are way in the south so heat is only an issue a few times a year. But, you are absolutely correct to have backup to the backup
That is the problem I’m having now. When I need it to run my 2 ton heat pump HVAC during a loss of grid power in a hard hard freeze, it will not keep the HVAC heat on. The generator circuit breaker keeps tripping..and all I have on is the HVAC unit.
@@MrMnmn911 heat strips are going to pull way more amps because 9f the resistance involved. I may be that the amps are just to much for the generator. I am going to install a 50 amp receptacle because mine would not push just 1 heat strip on my house. I'm going to install the 50 amp receptacle on Feb 14th. I don't get much time off so this is going to be my first opportunity to get it done. I will post to let y'all know if running it with the 50 amp receptacle and 8 gauge wire makes a difference. Now, I have a backup plan. I bought several 750/1500 Watt space heaters for around 35 bucks on Amazon. You can run a quite a few of these and they will heat your rooms pretty well. You could run 4 or 5 and still have power to spare for refrigerators and freezers and lights. Now, I have a 10kw and a 13kw so I can really go all out, but if you have a 10kw or better, just get some space heaters. You'll still be way ahead of most everyone else out there.
I have the xp13000HX which is duel fuel. It will not start on propane; but runs well on gasoline. Do you have any suggestions what may be up?
It's the diverter switch. You may be able to clean it, but I would call duromax and ask them if they can send you a new one and see what happens. We were treated very well by the people at duromax
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Don't use has, just use the propane. Also the oil might just be extra oil cause they usually already have some amount of oil already in it.
Really it’s best to have a back up if you can because none of them are totally reliable and start them every month
I need to run them now. Thanks for the reminder
Break in period will determine how long these generator will last. It took me 4 oil changes until I stopped seeing aluminum flakes in the oil. And the break in is very important to the power producing. Break them in under a small load and gradually increase the load , change the oil and repeat. Then change the oil every 20 hours. And they should last for years.
How many hours run time before first oil change?
Change the oil every 20 hours? Um NO!
That's what the manufacturer says to do. Now, I'm with you. I live in the real world
Poor packaging is not always the merchants fault, but many times the shippers. They tend to rough handle packages at times. Anyhow good presentation :o)
Very, very true. I highly doubt it started out like this from the manufacturer. The forklift driver told me that several had been returned just that day due to damage and the inability to start them. Mine is doing well right now but I think it needs a new battery. I have to pull start it to run.
You might want to check out butanol. apperently you can run it in gas engines. i was looking at fuels and it popped it up google. some website chemcentral has it for 195 for 55 gal drum. It can be stored for a long time unlike gasoline. it's made from corn like ethanol but has properties more similar to gas. Also, might want to check out a station that has pure gasoline. The ethanol in the gas gum up fast and absorb moisture form the air and generally our gas at stations is not very good...It's not like they used to make it.
Thanks Jin. I will look into butanol. I do use real, pure gas, no ethanol, in everything but my truck. I treat my gas and diesel with Pri-g and Pri-d for long term storage.
@@TheSHOP411 you see you always have goid advise ,I've been using sta-bil for storing long term gas storage ,never heard of Pri-g and pri-d I'm assuming d is for diesel ( don't have anything diesel) but I'm going to research this see you learn something new everyday thanks 🫡
Dawg r and l carriers....rocks the duece
Selector switch? Like the other ones on you tube.
Thank you!!
I have that same XP10000EH, when I start it and put it on idle it turns off, and it one of the red lights are on...would you know why...I bought it last yr but just started up few weeks ago for the first time...Thanks.
It's hard to troubleshoot that issue without being able to see it for myself. The red light could be the battery light. There is also a low RPM switch. Something may be going on with that. When it starts, how long does it run before it stalls? It could be a fuel issue. That would be my first inclination. Are you on gasoline or propane. Try the other whichever one you are using.
@@TheSHOP411 I'm using used propane, it is the battery light that comes on...maybe I need to charge it since it was in the shed for almost a yr...Thanks for your help
@@bze06fishinbwai63 also, on the 10000eh, there is a choke lever. If it starts and struggles for a bit, that is normal. You will have to flip that lever to the run position. Might be as simple as that.
Only one pound of ethyl mercaptan is added per 10,000 gallons of LPG. I work in a refinery. I highly doubt it was that.
My dad worked in a refinery most all his life. He was pretty high up. He didn't seem convinced either, but where does the oil come from? Anyway, maybe it was a one off issue, but I will be watching very closely when I run my propane tanks. You definitely don't want to have that issue when the grid is down, but at least we know the work around and how to keep it going. There is a pretty big group of RV'ers blogging about the ethyl mercaptan fouling their regulators on their RVs, so that is what sent me down that path.
@@TheSHOP411 more than likely is just like people with gas and carbs. Improper storage. Letting it sit with fuel in the carb.
We used to irritate with pumps ran with engines running on propane, you can go years and no problems then out of the blue the regulators would fill up with that nasty smelling oily goo. Not very often but it does happen.
@@MrShanegoldman thanks for the comment Shane. So many people don't seem to know anything about this. Doing a lot of research on this and there are fuel line designs out there that are used specifically to stop this from happening. So, it is a real thing. Thanks for chiming in.
I have a 12k Duramax dual.
In 2018 during Hurricane Maria ihad rouse it.
Even though I tested it prior, the propane wasn't reliable. Nightmare failure. Later I contacted Duramax and I replaced the regulator.
We had two separate issues and it was pretty tense until we figured it out. The issue with my dad's 13k was that fuel selector switch. I didn't have that problem bc the 10k doesn't have that switch. I filled 5 tanks at the local feed and seed and they had that oil in them that fouled up my regulator and before I realized I had a problem with that batch of propane, I had give my dad some of the tanks and it shut both of us down. We were able to figure how to to a bypass with gasoline on his and he got back up and running, and I was able to clear out the oil and run on just gasoline as well. I got pretty nervous but once we figured everything out, things ran nicely. I have heard that running propane from a larger tank doesn't cause as many issues.
Where is your transfer switch? For back-up heat i have a 23,800 btu dura heat kerosene heater but i use a kerosene alternative call KLEAN HEAT ITS FOR INDOOR USE,USE I T INSTEAD of k-1 kerosene
That sounds like a killer system. Our needs for heat do not necessitate a system that large. Here in the deep south, our deep cold spells rarely last more than several days. In the worst years, we may have a total of three weeks of dangerous cold and that is random throughout the winter. We can survive pretty easy for short stretches, unlike in the north where it can be several weeks to months of dangerous cold.
My transfer switch is in my panel. A little vague on purpose
@@TheSHOP411 you're absolutely right, the cold starts in October to late March April with snow to back it up , I haven't had to use my kerosene heater yet and no loss of power lately so my generator Just sits idle for the time being ,listening to the issues you were having with your generator with the switching over from gas to propane I have the same 10,000W generator you have and I've had no problems, but I only use propane. No gas I enjoyed your channel very much and I will look out for the oil coming from the regulator that you described, have a good day 🙂
How noisy is it when it is loaded?
It is noisy, but I sleep pretty soundly and the noise is tolerable. I set it up in a place where the noise is not too bad. I will tell you this, when you are comfortable because you have ac in the sweltering summer heat after a hurricane, or you have warmth after a winter storm, the noise seems inconsequential. I really mean that. You almost don't care.
$150 i hired a qualified electrician to wire the transfer switch to my breaker panel no worries about toogling switches 🤔
I learned electrical from my dad. He used to build houses with his dad, and in those days, you did everything. I sure wish I was half as good as him, but I know enough to get by and be safe. Really appreciate you commenting and watching. Not sure everyone would agree with everything I say in my videos, but I try to keep them somewhat interesting.
@@TheSHOP411 I saw all the comments I think you got thier attention and everyone is listening and from the comments includeding myself we all agree with all that you say ,you made it make sense there are a lot of new generator owners out there and you seem to be the new go to guy for advise so keep it coming it helps 🫡
Currently $1,320 on Amazon and in stock.
That would be a good price. I went look but didn't see it for that price. Gat to make sure it's the duel fuel. I also wouldn't get the one with the automatic CO2 shut off. Thanks for watching.
😂😂 run like a scolded dog,thanks for sharing no gas in my units ,only propane
I respect that totally. I do like the idea of multiple sources of fuel, and it did save my dad's bacon having the liquid gas option after we found out the transfer switches can go bad. It also helped me when I had the freak batch of propane with oil in it. I have since done a whole lot of research on that and a simple U trap in the propane gas line would alleviate any possibility of it ever happening again. Even having the hose lower than the regulator for a distance would likely solve that issue. Propane is still the best prepper fuel and I have several hundred gallons in different areas. I am still rotating gasoline and it's a PITA. Going tomorrow to fill 10 five gallon tanks with non ethanol gasoline before the price spikes.
@@TheSHOP411 yes I store propane, gasoline which is for the cars only and kerosene the gas I tread it with sta-bil but rotate it out after 2years the propane is self sufficient as is the kerosene close friends and family know I Prep for what ever comes my way ,if we get thru the blast then we're go to go ...l did order another generator not as big as the first one but as a back up, liked your idea of more than one ,I stuck with the DuroMax, they seem to work good for me and my sisters, they run propane as well,good luck to you and your Dad 🫡
Box says 'Durostar' ; NOT Duromax.
@@Digidoc316 I address this in the video, first around 3:20 . You can order a Duramax and receive a Durostar. Made by the same people and considered the same generator by the manufacturer and by retailers. I was a bit skeptical, but after looking into it online, and calling the manufacturer, it's the same generator. I remember it had something to do with where it was built that they gave it one name or the other. My dad had a Duromax that was replaced with a Durostar under warranty. When he asked about the different name, he was told the Durostar was all that was available and it's the same generator. I have no ties to the company. Just giving you the info I have.
I don`t believe the propane OR the propane regulator is the problem. Check the engines valve cover for leaks on the engine just up above your propane regulator. These valve covers leak often on these chinese engines. They will drip oil down onto the propane regulator and give you a false diagnosis if you don`t know what your looking for. They begin to leak when the generator gets hotter. The valve cover and the gasket are poorly designed, that`s why they leak, or seep as the engine gets hotter. Once the engine cools off, the leak closes up. When it gets hot, the leak opens back up. As for your propane being an issue, you likely bought a bad batch from your supplier. I would buy it somewhere else.
I always run the gas out of the carb for storage over a day. I use Pri-G as an additive. It is by far the best I have found. It will actually bring old gas back to life. In the future, I will have a 84 gallon propane tank for the generators along with gasoline. Gas is much more efficient for the price if it is available. I have backups to the backups. I also stockpile fuel at another location that is in a very remote area.
I do appreciate your input and it is spot on correct. A lot of people I know buy generators and run them for a hurricane and when it's done, they put them up as is and don't think about them till the next storm. Then it's too late.
The oil came from the propane tanks. It was a bad batch from the feed and seed store. I can still use it for running my boiler but the tanks will have to be traded out. I went through the generator and I have rebuilt small engines all my life and I can say for 100%, the valves are not the problem. Rebuilding small engines is a hobby and I do know what I am doing. I can say, it took me a long time to get to the point of finding out it was the batch of propane. After doing some research, RV'ers deal with oil in propane quite often. There are treads all over about it. I only ran into the problem right after using the propane. After I stopped using the propane, I ran the genny for 4 days straight with no problem on gasoline. I did read that the problem is almost non existent once you go to a 40# tank or bigger.
That's mercapten
Ethyl mercaptan, yep
@@TheSHOP411 yipyip
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Don't buy one. They don't run on propane
Mine are still purring along on gas and propane. I did have some issues but once resolved, they are pretty good. Oh, the battery on the new one failed after a year so I manually start it. That kinda was a bummer.
They replaced my 1st one and it's no different
@@ThunderChicken1 that does suck. I did UA-cam searches and was able to resolve my issues. I hope you can. Nothing worse than buying something and it doesn't work
I talked to Duramax today. They said it won't run on anything smaller than a 40lb tank. I don't understand that. But
@@ThunderChicken1 that's not true. We ran three different generators on the small tanks for two weeks.
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